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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northamptonshire => Topic started by: magslote on Saturday 19 October 13 15:33 BST (UK)
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Hello, tracing the Bosworth families, in Titchmarsh,Warmington,Thrapston,Oundle,
looking for marriage details of Sidney.j.Bosworth, born 1904 Titchmarsh, married Evelynn.G. Burks
born 1904 leicester, married 1929 Thrapston.
and in the above caption, John Thomas Bosworth bapt 1858 Warmington married????/to Sarah Elizabeth born1866, Oundle.I have access to census returns, very many thanks Margaret.
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Hi,
Sidney J BOSWORTH m. Evelyn G BURKS 1929 Thrapston 3b 453 Jun Qtr
Victor
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Hi,
John Thomas BOSWORTH m. Eliza ELSON or Elizabeth ROWLETT 1878 Oundle 3b 277 Mar Qtr
Victor
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Thankyou Victor, so much Margaret.
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Hi Margaret,
You are welcome. In future, do try the www.freebmd.org.uk where the information I gave you is available for free.
Victor
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John Thomas may have married twice, an Eliza Bosworth death is registered in 1883 Oundle RD she was 23, Second marriage for John is below Tho the original does say Bozeat , it could be an error in the hearing of the name by the officials
Jun 1885
Bozeat John Thomas Oundle 3b 379
Wyman Sarah Elizabeth Oundle 3b 379
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Hi.
Margaret you can find John's marriage(s) listed here
which is noted under My Useful Northants Links.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0lx0/
Sandy
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There are no headstones in Warmington Churchyard (except for the War Grave
of L.T. Bosworth http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wj2/ ) or the Cemetery for
the surname Bosworth.
Sandy
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Hello, Seahall,Jan57,and Victor, thankyou all very much for your help.Margaret.
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Hi.
Margaret I have just looked at Warmington P.R.
Warmington P.C. after Banns
Pg. 104, No. 207
1st January 1878
John Thomas Bodsworth, 20, Bachelor, Labourer, Warmington, father David, Labourer
Eliza Elson, 18, Spinster, Warmington, father William, Labourer
Both signed their names.
Witnesses: Robert Elson and Elizabeth Ann Pridmore who also signed.
Sandy
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Other marriages below.
Warmington P.C. after Banns
Pg. 99, No. 197
Decr 26th 1876
John Thomas Bodsworth, 20, Bachelor, Labourer,Carpenter, Dunston, Northampton, no father named
Mary Ann Fox, 18, Spinster, Warmington, father David Bozeat, Labourer
Both signed their names.
Witnesses: Olive Fox and David Bozeat who also signed.
Sandy
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Warmington P.C. after Banns
Pg. 119, No. 237
June 28 1885
John Thomas Bodsworth? Bozeat, 28, Widower, Labourer, father David Bozeat
Sarah Elizaberth Wyman, 23, Spinster, Warmington, father John, Labourer
John signed his name, Sarah E her mark.
Witnesses: John Weatherington and Eliza Bozeat both signed their marks.
Now if you can work out the truth from the fibs. :)
Therefore is it 3 marriages for John.
Sandy
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Okay this might help.
Warmington P.C. Baptism
Pg. 95, No. 953
June 8th 1856
John Thomas Bosworth to Elizabeth Bosworth,Benefield, Single Woman
Therefore is David Bozeat the reputed father.
Baptisms I have access to only go upto 1856.
Sandy
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Thankyou once more, to add to this jigsaw.Margaret.
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Now this marriage might show Mary Ann Fox's mother is Caroline as she marries David Bozeat.
Warmington P.C. after Banns
Pg.57, No. 113
January 22nd 1860
David Bozeat, 25, Bachelor, Labourer, Warmington, father Thomas, Labourer
Caroline Fox, 21, Spinster, Warmington, father William, Labourer
David signed his mark, Caroline her name.
Witnesses: Eliza Cox and Wallis Fox who also signed their names.
Sandy
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There is no marriage in the Church of England Margaret for Sidney at
Titchmarsh or Thrapston, Ringstead, Islip.
Sandy
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Okay this might help.
Warmington P.C. Baptism
Pg. 95, No. 953
June 8th 1856
John Thomas Bosworth to Elizabeth Bosworth,Benefield, Single Woman
Therefore is David Bozeat the reputed father.
Baptisms I have access to only go upto 1856.
Sandy
Is there a John Thomas Fox baptised at Warmington around that time?
Could he be Caroline's illegitimate son taking his step-father's name and the John Thomas Bosworth who married Mary Ann Fox be a different person?
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Hhm, only obvious candidate on the census would be John Thomas Bosworth son of Elizabeth, being with his maternal grandparents on the 1861 Census. His mother married Elija Monk in 1860, as he is resident with them on the 1871 Census.
Does look like David Bozeat may have had a few illegitimate children.
Interestingly, the only David Bozeat on the Northamptonshire Baptism Index was David Ventice Bozeat the illegimiate son of Mary Ann Bozeat baptised at Warmington 15 May 1836. The names Bozeat and Bosworth seems to be interchanged on the census but then that's whoever wrote them up. ::)
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Thankyou so much, Margaret.
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Death registration March qtr 1889 Northampton RD for a John Thomas Bosworth born c1857.
1881 Census
Northampton
John T Bosworth Head 24 Carpenter born Warmington
Mary A Bosworth Wife 22 born Warmington
John W Bosworth 2 born Northampton
John Wallis Bosworth birth registered Jun qtr 1879 Northampton RD.
There are some ancestry trees with this couple listed.
There is a Wallis Fox in Warmington with wife Mary having children in the 1850s, although I can't see a Mary Ann with them, she could be listed under a different name.
Doesn't look like John Thomas Bosworth born 1856 to Elizabeth is the same person who married Sarah Elizabeth Wyman in 1885. He would appear to be the husband of Mary Ann Fox though.
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David Ventice Bozeat the illegimiate son of Mary Ann Bozeat baptised at Warmington 15 May 1836
The original parish Records show the baptism as
Warmington P.C.
Pg. 50, No. 400
May 15th 1836
David Ventice Bozeatt, to Ann Bozeatt, Singlewoman
I have some more info at home Margaret so will see if I have anything to add
after leaving the P.R's at the Library.
Sandy
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Hhm, interesting ancestry tree has a John Thomas Bozeat son of Mary Bozeat nee Pepperday resident in Warmington on 1861 Census.
1861 Census
Warmington
Mary Bozeat Wife Married 24 years Agricultural Labourers wife born Barrowden, Rutland
John Thos Bozeat son 2 years born Barrowden
William Bozeat son 1 year born Warmington
1881 Census
Warmington
David Bosworth Head Married 45 years Farm Labourer born Warmington
Mary Bosworth Wife 43 years born Barrowden, Rutland
William Bosworth son 21 years Farm Labourer born Warmington
Harry Bosworth son 13 years Farm Labourer born Parison?, Lincolnshire
Charles Bosworth son 12 years Scholar born Parison?, Lincs
George Bosworth son 10 years Scholar born Ramsey St Mary, Hunts
Louiza Bosworth dau 6 years Scholar born Warmington
Ellen Bosworth dau 4 years Scholar born Warmington
Mary Ann Bosworth dau 1 year born Warmington
Marriage certificate on tree:
Stamford Register Office
26 May 1858
David Bosworth 22 years single man agricultural labourer of Thornhaugh, Northamptonshire - no father's name
Mary Ann Pepperday 20 years single woman domestic servant of Red Lion Street, Stamford, daughter of Thomas Pepperday labourer
Both made their mark
Witnesses - Henry Clapton, Charlotte Love (who made her mark)
David Bozeat/Bosworth may be the David Boszett convicted at Peterborough General Quarter Sessions in October 1860 of "stealing from the person being armed" and sentenced to four years imprisonment. The tree owner definately seems to think so and would explain why he isn't with Mary on the 1861 Census.
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Sandy has confirmed the 1836 David Bozeat, there is also one baptised in 1833 to Thomas and Elizbeth Bozeat in Warmington who is with his parents on the 1841 and 1851 Census. This would seem to be the David who married Caroline Fox.
The same ancestry tree is showing David Bozeat born 1836 with his mother Ann and step father William Hill on the 1851 Census. They suggest Ann married William Hill Dec qtr 1839 Stamford RD - apparently at Easton on the Hill but I only have the Northants Marriage Index to 1837. Sandy may be able to help with that one. 1851 Census says David was born Wittering but his mother was born Warmington and would appear to be the older sister of the other David Bozeat.
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There is a John Thomas Bosworth birth registered Sept qtr 1858 Uppingham Registration District. Uppingham RD includes Barrowden. Perhaps John Thomas' age is slightly out on the Census. Unfortunately the Rutland CMB Index only goes to 1840. However, there is a Mary Pepperday baptised 18 Feb 1838 to Thomas and Ann, labourer, at Barrowden.
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Home now. :)
David Bozett certainly had a bastardy order against him for Rebecca Knighton of Tansor.
From the N.M.I.
Easton on the Hill
19 Nov 1839
William HILL otp, bachelor, of full age, labourer, father John, labourer
Ann BOZETT of Whittering, spinster, of full age, father Thomas, labourer
Sandy
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Well besides getting totally confused as to whether we are assisting Margaret or
confusing her. :-\
On the 1881 Census John T Bosworth and family are at 41, Alcombe Rd.
Death registration March qtr 1889 Northampton RD
Billing Road Cemetery
John Thomas Bosworth, 32 years, Turner Street, died Feby 14th 1889, buried
February 18th in grave A2 594
On the 1891 Census RG12/1200,Folio 47, Page 37, Sch 206, 3, Byfield Road, ST James
Mary Ann is visiting with children Elizabeth aged 14, and Leonard 1.
This is not the family that Margaret has asked assistance with.
I think we are on a wild goose chase here.
Sandy
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Okay back to the drawing board for me.
On the 1901 census Titchmarsh RG13/1452, Folio 137, Page 19, Sch 147
The Nine Inns
John Bosworth, 44, Warmington, Sarah Elizabeth, 34, Oundle, Mary, 13,
Archer, 11, Algernon, 9, Lydia, 9, Atherton, 8, Muriel, 7, Horace, 5,
William, 2, Wilford, 2, Charley, 1 all born Titchmarsh
If this is the correct family Margaret, could you confirm please as you say you have
access to the census returns.
Sandy
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Therefore the marriage details I noted to Sarah Elizabeth Wyman on Reply 11 are correct.
Warmington P.C. after Banns Pg. 119, No. 237, June 28 1885
John Thomas Bodsworth? Bozeat, 28, Widower, Labourer, father David Bozeat
Sarah Elizaberth Wyman, 23, Spinster, Warmington, father John, Labourer
John signed his name, Sarah E her mark.
Witnesses: John Weatherington and Eliza Bozeat both signed their marks.
This gives Margaret the brides surname.
Sandy
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The marriage on Reply 10 is not the correct John to Mary Ann Fox as he dies in 1889.
I do think the marriage to Eliza Elson should be kept in mind though noted on Reply 9.
Sandy
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I have a headstone for Sidney Jarvis Bosworth at Titchmarsh.
It says Born April 14th 1904.
I will P.M. you the inscription Margaret as too late to note on forum.
Sandy
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Hello Smudwhick/Seahall, I really do apprieciate all you are doing for me, and for your time, thankyou SO much, Margaret.x
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Well besides getting totally confused as to whether we are assisting Margaret or
confusing her. :-\
Sandy
I agree, definately getting confusing. ;D
I tend to think Margaret's John Thomas Bosworth is going to be the son of David Bozeat/Bosworth and Mary Ann nee Pepperday who was most likely born at his mother's home of Borrowden in 1858. The 1856 John Thomas is obviously accounted for elsewhere.
The fact that this David and Mary are in Warmington from about 1860 onwards, definately makes that family a contender for Margaret because it places them in the same parish as the other John Thomas. Just because he says he was born in Warmington, doesn't mean that was the case and he probably didn't know any better if the family moved there when he was very young. Mary probably went home for her first child.
It doesn't help that there are two David Bozeat/Bosworths in Warmington at the same time, one the brother of the other's mother. ::)
I think the problems are the varying ages of the two John Thomas Bosworth/Bozeat's on the Census.
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Thankyou again, once more.Margaret.