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Title: Macdonald siblings
Post by: edward fraser on Saturday 26 October 13 07:10 BST (UK)
I am seeking any information on the following three people Sween Macdonald born 1836 Scotland arrived Sydney 29 /8/1854 on the ship Columbia...Margaret Macdonald born1832 Scotland arrived Sydney 1856 on the ship Stamboul... Donald Macdonald born1836 Scotland arrived Sydney 1857 on the ship Golconda , they were siblings who's passage was paid for by an older sister who emigrated earlier ... did any of the three above get married any they may have settled in Bathurst or Forbes or surrounding areas... any assistance or info will be very much appreciated.. thank you Edward  ;D
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: Dundee on Saturday 26 October 13 07:38 BST (UK)
Just adding for ease of research that the siblings' parents were Sween and Isabella.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: judb on Saturday 26 October 13 07:45 BST (UK)
Hi Edward

BMD records in Australia often include parent names so please could you let us have the parent names and name of the sister, including her married name if applicable.. Where in Scotland were they born, please?  As their forenames are not unusual Scottish names do any of them have second names as well?  Are there any other siblings who stayed in Scotland?

Sorry for all the questions and no answers but extra detail will be useful in eliminating those with similar names who are not the ones you seek.  The traditional Scots way of naming children using parent/grandparent names is often useful, as is the common practice of using the surname of the mother in name choosing.

Is the spelling Sween correct?

Judith

Edit to add - thanks Debra!
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: Dundee on Saturday 26 October 13 07:51 BST (UK)
Was Jane the other sibling?

NSW Death

10199/1897
ALEXANDER, JANE
Father: SWEEN
Mother: ISABELLA
Registered at WOOLLAHRA   

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=deaths

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: judb on Saturday 26 October 13 07:53 BST (UK)
NSW BMD has this marriage:

NSW 1884 #3788
Sween MACDONALD, Jane WILEY (also indexed as Wylie)
Registration Place:   Hay, New South Wales
Registration number:   3788

Death:
NSW 1893, #7126
Sween MACDONALD
Registration Place:   Hay, New South Wales

Hay is further west  than Forbes and Bathurst, in the Riverina - Googlemaps!

Judith
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: majm on Saturday 26 October 13 07:54 BST (UK)
Hi there,

The NSW SRO’s index for the1854 voyage on the Columbia arriving Sept, has Sween as McDONNELL, aged 23, he was single, a Farm Labourer, of Clacknakerry, Inverness, Church of Scotland, and could read and write.
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.asp?Page=NRS5316/4_4791/Columbia_20%20Sep%201854/4_479100229.jpg&No=12

The NSW SRO’s Deceased Estates index has Sween MACDONALD, Ulonga, with death 6 Dec 1893, and Duty Paid 9 June 1894.

The NSW BDM death cert reference :  is #7126.  The surname is indexed as both MCDONALD and as MACDONALD.  (Oops, sorry Judith for duplicating your post)

There are births to Sween MACDONALD …..
Jane MACDONALD in 1888, registered at HAY, parents as Sween and Jane.  #15272
Mabel S MACDONALD, in 1892, registered at HAY, parents as Sween and Jane #16650


http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/nrs-lists/nrs-5316/#the-list-of-ships 

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 26 October 13 08:03 BST (UK)
Deaths

   
REG 2028 In 1978 MACCREDIE  JANE
Parents  SWEEN  & JANE

       
REG 6902 In 1980  MACDONALD,  MABEL SWEEN
Parents SWEEN  & JANE

Sue 
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 26 October 13 08:06 BST (UK)
Mabel Sween McDONALD appears on the Electoral Roll in 1930, 1963 and 1958.

Her addresses can be typed if of interest.  There are not others of the surname at her addresses.

Sue
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 26 October 13 08:22 BST (UK)
Sween MCDONALD was buried at Hay Cemetery on 6/12/1893

His grave is unmarked and the exact location is not known.

Sue
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: rosball on Saturday 26 October 13 08:48 BST (UK)
Sydney Morning Herald 7 Jan 1978

McCREDIE Jane - January 6 1978 at hospital, late of Pittwood Home, Ashfield, widow of the Reverend James McCredie, sister of Mabek Sween McDonald and loved mother of D, J, fond mother-in-law of J and K, grandmother of L,G, K, great grandmother of M,A and J aged 89 years.  Watch these columns for funeral notices.

Will pm the names  :)

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 26 October 13 09:07 BST (UK)
REG 11692 In 1917    MCCREDIE JAMES W To MACDONALD JANE at WEST MAITLAND
 
 
E Roll 1930
Address- The Manse Albert St. Taree
McCREDIE, James William. Clergyman
McCREDIE Jane- HD

E Roll 1943
Address- The Manse, Dowling St. Dungong
McCREDIE, James William. Minister
McCREDIE Jane- HD

1954
Address-101 Greenwich St. Greenwich Lane Cove.
McCREDIE James William.  Pres Minister
McCREDIE, Jane- HD
McCREDIE, James Donald, Traffic Officer

1963
Address 18 Spencer St. Leura
McCREDIE, Jane- HD
McDONALD Mabel Sween, HD


Sue
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 26 October 13 09:09 BST (UK)
The death of James

#6357 In 1958  MCCREDIE  James William
Parents  James George & Mary
At  KATOOMBA

Sue
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: rosball on Saturday 26 October 13 09:29 BST (UK)
SMH Mar 22 1980

MacDONALD Mabel (Mabs) March 21 1980 at hospital loved sister of the late Jane McCredie and loved aunt of D and J and grand aunt of G and K

regards,
  Ros
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: rosball on Saturday 26 October 13 09:49 BST (UK)
SMH 14 Jan 1958

McCREDIE Reverend James William -- Jan 13 1958 at hospital, Katoomba of Glen mist, Spencer Street, Leura, dearly beloved husband of Jane McCredie and dear father of D and J (mrs *) and fond pa of G and C aged 74 years.

regards,
  Ros
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: rosball on Saturday 26 October 13 10:06 BST (UK)
A little off-track but maybe of interest - the Rev J W McCredie's parents celebrating 60 years of marriage and a good description of their background and life.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article25978828

cheers,
   Ros
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: rosball on Saturday 26 October 13 10:20 BST (UK)
Birth of a daughter for one of Jane McCredie's children (we know her married name from Jane's death notice Edward  :) )
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article27924529

regards,
  Ros

You can find their marriage in 1943 in Dungog here http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/

Father of the newborn's service record http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=4621474
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: rosball on Saturday 26 October 13 11:19 BST (UK)
Sween McDonald, Hay takes up  640 acres in Country Waradgery, parish Warrigal and Ina
and also 1920 acres in same locality.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article71119186

regards,
   Ros
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: rosball on Saturday 26 October 13 11:43 BST (UK)
Was Jane the other sibling?

NSW Death

10199/1897
ALEXANDER, JANE
Father: SWEEN
Mother: ISABELLA
Registered at WOOLLAHRA   

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=deaths

Debra  :)

Death notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article14115948
ALEXANDER.—August 10, at Glenlyon, Point Piper  Road Woollahra, Jane Alexander in her 79th year, beloved mother or Henry Sadler, Waverley

regards,
  Ros
adding  : from Nsw BDM http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/
Jane McDonald Sadler married James Alexander in Forbes in 1862 reg 2370/1862
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: rosball on Saturday 26 October 13 12:41 BST (UK)
Lots of speculation ... ;D

Henry W Saddler born 1849 to Henry W Saddler and Jane  reg V18491613 34A/1849

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTC2-55Y


Possible death
1899 Sadler  Henry W, father William H, mother Jane, Sydney reg 319/1899   

Death notice http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article14202996
SADLER- March 5, suddenly, at his residence, 174 William street, Henry William Sadler, chemist, aged 49 years.   
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 27 October 13 21:01 GMT (UK)
In response to PM from Edward, the electoral details for Mabel

1930
Address- Ayrecourt, East Cres. St. North Sydney
McDONALD, Mabel Sween.-occ. saleswoman

1958
Address- 68 Kellett St. Darlinghurst.
McDONALD, Mabel Sween.-occ. typist


1963- you have, when she is with her widowed sister.

I do not see any other enrolments for Mabel.

Sie
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: edward fraser on Monday 28 October 13 01:00 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much to everyone who kindly assisted in finding information about Macdonald sibling's in the request I made on Sat 26/10/2013, I was overwhelmed by the response which was by far the best I have had since I started this family tree.. I would like to sincerely thank (rosball- Ros) , (Dundee- Debra) (judb-Judith) , (sparret- sue) , it has bee very gracious of you all, thank you for your time ,,, sincerely EDWARD...
Title: Re: Macdonald siblings
Post by: sparrett on Monday 28 October 13 05:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Edward,
I'm sure we have all enjoyed helping.
In regard to the other 2 siblings, is there any extra information at all?

Occupation of Donald?

Second forenames for either?

Were the siblings close in their relationship?   Perhaps likely to settle in the same area ;D

Letters/documents/family stories which may help?

Sue