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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Lookups completed => Topic started by: Gmar on Thursday 05 December 13 07:23 GMT (UK)
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Background to this post dated 1 Feb 2012.
I will try to list things on a time line
1848 Major W Colless born
1886 ' ' marries his cousin Mary Colless
1897 " Dies at Normanton Qld of Dengue fever
Ruth Herald Stowe marries Henry Welldreck 1876 but leaves Henry in 1880. This was noted in a court appearence when Henry took Ruth to Court after Ruth had taken Henry to Court.{No bearing on this}
Birth certificate 1884/33286 details
28 October 1884 at Lady Bowen Hospital Ann St Brisbane a son Major Colless Bowen.
Father Henry Welldreck, labourer 37 years born in Germany Married 3 October 1876 Singleton NSW. Living children-Clarence 7, Harold Henry 6 Walter James 4, Dead one female
Mother Ruth Herrald formally Stowe 27 years born at sea
Father not present
The family lived in Patrick Plains This birth in Qld.
Patrick Plains is not that far from Come by Chance where Major William Colless was born and he does not get married until 1886. On hearsay it states he sold his share of CBC to his brother and went to Normanton and purchased Inverleigh, came back to NSW after nearly 2 years and married Mary in 1886. Most Colless family trees have Major Bowen Colless as the son of Major.
I only noticed this "slip" when I was double checking the tree. He is my husband's grandfather.
Will appreciate any help Thank you
Is DNA the way to prove this
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There was also a daughter born on 5 August 1886, both were registered in the Brisbane area.
1886
B37168
Ruth WELLDRECK
Parents: Henry & Ruth Herreld STOWE
He married and died as Major Bowen Welldreck COLLESS/COLLIS so he presumedly had knowledge of his parentage.
Debra :D
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Who said that Ruth and Major William COLLESS married? She remarried to Charles HILL in 1897 as Ruth Herreld WELLDRECK.
Debra :D
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At Toowong Cemetery......buried same plot
HILL Ruth Herreld 11 / 07 / 1909 Unknown
COLLIS Kevin Desmond 25 / 08 / 1926 1 years
COLLIS Major Bowen Miledrick 17 / 01 / 1929 41 years
COLLIS Bruce Kevin Cornelius 08 / 10 / 1923 Unknown
QLD BDM
1923 B41125 COLLIS Bruce Kevin Cornelius ps. Major Bowen Welldrick Collis & Esther Mary Butler
1926 B49799 COLLIS Kevin Desmond Collis ps Major Bowen Willdrick Collis & Esther Mary Butler
1929 B6773 COLLIS Major Bowen Willdrick ps. Major William Collis & Ruth Stowe
1909 B10641 HILL Ruth Herreld Hill ps. James Stowe & Sarah Evans
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Thank you wivenhoe and Dundee
The Toowong cemetery details are greatly appreciated especially the 2nd last entry. Thank you both for taking the time to solve this little wall Cheers gmar
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Previous thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=579202.0
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Incidentally, did you notice that son Harold appears to have changed his name to Wilson? (Marriage 1911, WWI records and death 1960 - death lists mother as Ruth Stowe and WWI lists birth as Singleton, so I'm reasonably sure this is the right man). Any Wilson connections in the family?
DNA testing would work if you are in contact with male line descendants of both Major Colless Bowen and of a son of Major W. with wife Mary. Then yDNA might prove the connection. Another thing to check might be the probate records of Major W - did Ruth or any of her children get a mention?
A third avenue of enquiry would be the birth and death of the little girl who died - Daisy M M, b. 1882 NSW d. 1883 Queensland - the death in particular might give you an idea of where Ruth was when she first moved to Queensland - perhaps working for Major W or in service with another family in the region.
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Just a little New South Wales geography. I could be wrong, but! Come By Chance is in between Coonamble NSW and Walgett NSW and Wee Waa NSW in an area known as The Pilliga. Patricks Plains is an old name for the Singleton Region of NSW. The areas as you said "Close" but "are actually not close at all" particularly in those days. But instead on what was once a stock route from Northern NSW and Queensland. Now called the Kamilaroi Highway.
Neil
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Thank you Jorose and Neil Todd for your imput
I should have checked on those distances. Could be like up here in Queensland where everything is up the road.I will look into the wilson angle also Daisy's death. Thank you again