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Title: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: yekepa on Friday 06 December 13 13:24 GMT (UK)
 Looking for names and addresses of near neighbours of Sir William Gilstrap dates around 1862-1880 living at  Fornham Hall, Fornham St Genevieve,Suffolk.
Thank you
Yekepa
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: suzard on Friday 06 December 13 13:44 GMT (UK)
1891 census -enumerater's walk before Fornham Hall are several cottages named Clay Hall Cottages then Fornham Hall then Stable Cottage, Gardener's Cottage, Park Cottages (2) Duck Sluice Cottage

How many neighbouring households details do you require?

Suz
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: yekepa on Friday 06 December 13 14:44 GMT (UK)
Thank you,I am actually looking for those very close by so what you quote would be fantastic,did you notice if there was an address "Agents House"?
Thanks
Y
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: suzard on Saturday 07 December 13 11:29 GMT (UK)
I'll look for "Agent's House" What time frame did you hear of it -? Any particular names you are looking for??
Shall I just post full details of house either side?

Suz
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: suzard on Saturday 07 December 13 11:41 GMT (UK)
1861 census William Gilstrap is in Nottinghamshire
1871 Fornham Hall is listed as "The Hall" no addresses given for houses either side
1871 Hall listed as "Hall Park" no names of either side -in vicinity Lodge Gate House Clay hill
so if you are looking for a person it would help to have a name


Suz
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: yekepa on Saturday 07 December 13 12:05 GMT (UK)
Thank for going to so much trouble, I don't have any names, this is what I am looking for the names of the families that lived close by the Hall
Thanks
Y
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: suzard on Saturday 07 December 13 12:47 GMT (UK)
1871 - have just posted head of household & occupation they all have families with them

Fornham Suffolk
North Lodge William Bruer - Gardener
next houses are not named
James Osborne - Gamekeeper
George Outlaw - Horseman
Henry Eversett Underwood - Secretary to Mr Gilstrap
Joseph Dring - Gardener
William Stevenson - Coachman
The Hall William & Elizabeth Gilstrap + 12 servants
H Mass -wife of Butler
John Nunn? - ag lab
William Rebel Roadman
End of Fornham
RG10 172 5106 pages 15-18

Suz
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: yekepa on Saturday 07 December 13 12:50 GMT (UK)
Dear Suz
You have gone to so much trouble, greatly appreciated, this is just what I am looking for.
Thank you
Y
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: suzard on Saturday 07 December 13 13:06 GMT (UK)
1881
Lodge gate House - William Bruer - under gardener
Duck Sluice - William Clown? -Gen lab
ditto - William Cross gardener's lab
ditto - George Liddimore - Gen lab
Park - Henry Everett Underwood - Estate Secretary to William Gilstrap
Park - George Daniells - Gardener
Park _- George Warren -Dom Coachman
Hall Park - William & Elizabeth Gilstrap - plus 11 servants
Lodge Gate House (another one!) Charles brean? - Gardener's lab
Clay Hill (or Wall?) Phoebe Nunn - tailoress
ditto - William rebel -Woodman's lab
ditto - Simon Metcal - Groom
RG11 1839 22 pages 3-5

Suz
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: yekepa on Saturday 07 December 13 13:33 GMT (UK)
gets better, thank you
Y
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: suzard on Saturday 07 December 13 21:38 GMT (UK)
Do you require 1891?
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: yekepa on Sunday 08 December 13 09:32 GMT (UK)
suz,
THank you for offer I would be pleased to have anything related.
Y.
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: suzard on Sunday 08 December 13 12:07 GMT (UK)
1891 Foreham St Genevieve
(5 pages)
Clay Hill Cottages - Simon Leigh - Butler
ditto - William Garwood -General lab
ditto - William petch - Woodman
Fornahm Hall William Gilstrap (described as "Baronet" wife Elizabeth + 13 servants
Stable Cottage - James Breen -Coachman
Gardener's Cottage - William Morgan - Gardener
Park Cottages- John Nunn - Head gamekeeper
ditto - Walter Kirkby -Private secretary
Ducks Sluice Cottages - John Grainger -Stockman
ditto - George Liddamore -Gamekeeper
ditto - William Clow - Gardener's lab
North Lodge - William Bruce - Gardener
Culford Rd - Amos Nun - ag lab
ditto - James Mottam - woodman
ditto - George Sayer - Shepherd
King Farm House - Edmund J Beatton - Farm Bailiff
King Farm Cottage - Alfred Grainger - ag lab
South Lodge - Charles Breen - Gardener's lab
end of eccliastical Parish of Fornham St Genevieve
RG12 1448 81 pages 1-5

Suz
Title: Re: Fornham St Genevieve Hall
Post by: suzard on Sunday 08 December 13 12:31 GMT (UK)
Lot of faithful servants /workers when you look over the years!

1901
Fornham St Genevieve
South Porter's Lodge - Charles Bream -Garden labourer
Fornham Park - George manners -living on own means (plus wife, visitor & 13 servants
Stable Yard Fornham Park - James beream - Coachman
ditto - John Nunn - Farm Bailiff
ditto - William Dodge - Gardener (Head)
Ducks Sluice - William Foreman -Gamekeeper
ditto - George Palfrey (age 49)-Stockman on Farm
ditto - George Palfrey (age 34) Horsekeeper on Farm
North Porter's Lodge - William Bruce - Gardener (2nd)
Graham's Farm - Henry J Graham - Farmer & Landowner
ditto - John Carter - Farm Bailiff
ditto - Alfred Grainger - Horsekeeper on Farm
Nr Graham's Farm - Lewis Phillips - Shepherd
ditto - James Molton - Woodman
ditto - Amos Nunn - Farm lab
Clay Hall - Simeon Leigh - Gen lab
ditto William Greenwood - gen lab
ditto - William Petch - woodman

Suz