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Title: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: tink.tech on Thursday 12 December 13 22:30 GMT (UK)
Hi
Does anyone have access to or can anyone tell me where I can get Rawreth Parish records I have traced my family back here to 1841 census, now how can I get back futher. On-line please because I cant get to the records office.

Tink
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: olleym on Thursday 12 December 13 22:34 GMT (UK)
They are online at  http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/EssexAncestors.aspx
Are you can post a request on here

Mark
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: tink.tech on Thursday 12 December 13 22:47 GMT (UK)
Thanks This is the last info I have

I'm looking for

Thomas potter born Rawreth abt 1831

Father Thomas Potter abt 1801 mother Elizabeth abt 1808
Living at "Trinders" Rawreth if that makes any sense

Tink
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: olleym on Thursday 12 December 13 22:53 GMT (UK)
Raweth 27.03.1831 Thomas Potter son of Thomas & Hannah Potter
Are you sure you have the right mother?

Mark
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: tink.tech on Thursday 12 December 13 23:05 GMT (UK)
Thanks Olleym

She's Thomas's Wife in 1841 census, so maybe hannah died and he remarried?

there is siblings listed with them
Mary 14 = 1827
Eliza 15 = 1826
 

Tink
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: olleym on Thursday 12 December 13 23:05 GMT (UK)
Did Thomas senior die before the 1851 census?

Mark
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: olleym on Thursday 12 December 13 23:15 GMT (UK)
You are right a Hannah Potter was buried in Rawreth on 03.11.1831
Thomas & Hannah also had a dtr Hannah baptised 11.10.1829, she may have died too as not in 1841 census

Mark
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: tink.tech on Thursday 12 December 13 23:24 GMT (UK)
I don't have any other records for Thomas Sr on my laptop so I'm thinking yes.

not worked on this branch for a while I'll  just have a quick look and see if I can find any other notes, but I'm sure I had pretty much exhausted my search at the time I gave up.
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: tink.tech on Thursday 12 December 13 23:36 GMT (UK)
I can't find a death in my records or a possible one on freebmd at first glance.
I don't have any other census records for him either
1851 Thomas jr is a vistitor in what looks like Hochly so no clues there

Thanks olleym for ya help think I will have to get stuck in in the morning.
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: olleym on Thursday 12 December 13 23:38 GMT (UK)
Probably Hockley; just a few miles from Rawreth

Mark
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: olleym on Friday 13 December 13 07:50 GMT (UK)
Rawreth 03.11.1833 Thomas Potter, widower married Elizabeth Byford, widow.
Both otp.
Thomas's marriage to Hannah was not conducted in Rawreth.
I can't find Elizabeth in the 1851 census

Mark
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: tink.tech on Friday 13 December 13 09:38 GMT (UK)
 Thanks Mark, that's great.
I don't believe they died in Rawreth, no possible matches on freeBMD.
I can not find either Elizabeth out Thomas on the 1851, but without any clue where they went could be difficult.
I'm going to try and follow the other children.

Tink
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: nannyj on Thursday 02 January 14 18:50 GMT (UK)
Hi. Are you still looking for your Thomas Potter?
I found his death record in Rawreth. He was buried aged 50, on 3/11/1850 in Rawreth. Address given as Burnham Marshes. There's also a James Potter aged 60 who was buried on 19th of same month. Address also Burnham marshes. Brothers maybe?
Thomas and Hannah's children:
William baptised 19/1/1823 - buried 14/2/1823.
Eliza baptised 19/12/1824
Hannah baptised 11/10/1829 - buried 29/10/1829 aged two months.
Thomas baptised 27/3/1831

Wife Hannah buried 3/11/1831 aged 30, so also born in 1801. No record of their marriage in Rawreth.

Married Elizabeth Byford 3/11/1833. Both previously widowed.
No baptisms of any children for Thomas and Elizabeth in Rawreth.

Did find a William Potter marrying a Mary Amey, widow, 22/2/1813. She died 12/4/1842 aged 61. Maybe William was Thomas's father, although Mary would be a stepmother.

Also found a Matilda Potter  born 1855 (not sure where) and buried in Rawreth 22/5/1859.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: tink.tech on Monday 06 January 14 19:27 GMT (UK)
Thanks nannyj
 that's great, yes I am still looking for info on thomas potter.
I have tried to look in lots of places but  with a common name and not much definite info to narrow down the search results.
Thanks again for taking the time to look, and being very  thorough. Will try and piece the bits together.

I think I need a seax subscription but just started a new job so got to wait till payday. But no clue as yet to where he came from.

Helen
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: olleym on Monday 06 January 14 19:46 GMT (UK)
Tink

One thing you have to remember about the 1841 census is that anyone over the age of 15 had their ages rounded down to the nearest 5. So Thomas Sn is shown as being 40 but could be as old as 44 1/2; therefore putting his birth back to 1796.

Mark
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: nannyj on Monday 06 January 14 20:10 GMT (UK)
SEAX definitely worth it. Personally, I'd wait in til you can afford the year's subscription ( I know. £75!!) but once you're on it, you'll find lots and it's the best value. I started one day, then six months and now a year!
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: tink.tech on Monday 06 January 14 21:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks Mark, yes it is sometimes hard to remember that, and the fact they don't always know accurately. but the death that nannyj found seems to fit age 50 so makes it 1800 (if correct) right area plus Thomas Jr stayed in the area all his life. Hard to be 100% sure but 99% is about as good as it gets at this stage.

Nannyj I think it will make a big difference to my search, my dad has been to the records office in chelmsford, but a years subscription is defiantly cheaper then the trip.

Helen
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: olleym on Monday 06 January 14 21:57 GMT (UK)
Tink

Had a look at Rayleigh, Hockley and Burnham PRs but with no luck

Mark
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: tink.tech on Monday 06 January 14 22:31 GMT (UK)
Mark
Thanks for that, I think it will be looking for a needle in a haystack, not really sure where exactly to look ???
In 1841 living in Rawreth there is also a Johnathn Potter blacksmith 1811 married to Mary 1816 and James Potter 1796  living with Mary 1781. They could be brothers maybe if I can find them 1851 or later maybe that will give me a clue.

Helen
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: olleym on Monday 06 January 14 23:02 GMT (UK)
If you look on the next page of the census it seem that Johnathan is living in the same house as Thomas.

Mark
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: nannyj on Monday 06 January 14 23:29 GMT (UK)
I don't think you'll find them in 1851 as there are records for James and Thomas potter's deaths in Rawreth that match their birthdates in 1850. Lived in Burnham marshes. Checked Eastwood, Hadleigh, Thundersley, Rayleigh, Hinckley, hawkwell. No luck. Did find a James potter born to Richard and Ann potter in rettendon 7/11/1790. Didn't find a Thomas though.
Found a thomas potter married to a Catharine mead 8/10/1835 in Rawreth though!?
Jacqui
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: nannyj on Monday 06 January 14 23:30 GMT (UK)
Didn't find any potter marriages for Hannah and Thomas in those areas either :-(
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: geno500 on Tuesday 07 January 14 16:42 GMT (UK)
See you have been giving this line a bashing did you think to try Wickford it is the nearest town?
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: nannyj on Tuesday 07 January 14 18:14 GMT (UK)
I tried wickford and also runwell and hockley. Constantly have google maps up in separate tab. My knowledge of Southern Essex geography is definitely improving ;-)
Title: Re: Rawreth Parish Records
Post by: tink.tech on Monday 13 January 14 22:37 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone!!
I have been missing for a few days, getting stuck into new job. Logged in tonight to find you all still looking hard I can't believe how helpful and hard working you all are :D

I am completely stuck at the moment with it, at least I now have Thomas's death.
Don't know who Cathrine Mead is cant be My Thomas because he marries Elizabeth in 1833 and still living with her in 1841. And where does Johnathan go they must be related, I thought there was a dash between households but wether he lives with or next door to, there are not that many potters in the area at that time. so confused ???

Thanks so much
Helen