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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: familyroutes on Sunday 15 December 13 21:39 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help with a birth date or even year for Margaret O'Mullan, daughter of Jeremiah O'Mullan and Elizabeth O'Kane. According to her marriage cert she was 15 when she married in Dungiven Church in 1878. On the cert Margaret is called Mullin, her father Mullen and it's signed Maggie Mullan...even though they are actually O'Mullan !! The O'Mullans lived in Ashlamaduff.
According to the marriage cert Margaret was born in 1863. According to the 1901 census it was 1866 and according to the 1911 census it was 1863...so 1863 is probably right.
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Family Search births and baptisms 1620/1881 is showing births for children of a similarly named couple,
Ellen O'Mullan 11 sep 1876 dtr of Jeremiah O'Mullan and Elizabeth O'Kane,Limavady,Derry.
Fathers birthplace Ashlamaduff.
it also shows a birth for George on the 16 Feb 1865,Garvagh,Londonderry.
Perhaps if you got Georges birth cert it would lead you to church files microfilm for the baptism.
Being a southern boy myself i dont know much about the lay of the Land in Londonderry.
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It really makes it much easier if you post the links to the information found to save us searching for the same thing.
The birth is actually for Ellen Agatha O'Mullen and Ashlamaduff is not the birthplace of her father. The LDS usually put in the father's residence as his birthplace if the birth took place elsewhere (mother went back to her mother's home to have baby for example).
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGFW-T4G
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Thanks for your reply Daithí .
The only Margaret O'Mullan/Mullen/Mullin/Mullon I've been able to find registered in Garvagh was born in 1866 ... father Charles.
The O'Mullans were the only family of that name in the area which,you'd think, would make it easier but the "O" was always being dropped and there are lots of Mullans around Garvagh.
While Margaret was registered in Garvagh I don't know where she was baptised.
Mary
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Have some Mullan birth certificates in my files so I'll have a look later and see if I've anything for these people.
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Thanks aghadowey,
As far as I know the family were:
Daniel c.1856-1932
Bridget c.1861
Margaret c.1863-1939
George 1865 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5PB-QR7
Patrick c.1866-1931 Can't find Patrick's dob.He was a parish priest in Claudy. Is not https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYPM-X62 http://www.belfast-gazette.co.uk/issues/567/pages/271/page.pdf
Jeremiah 1869 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPD1-2D3
James 1871 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPRV-94B
Bernard 1874 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPBG-296
Ellen 1876 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGFW-T4L
John 1878-1928 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPQ1-26T
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It's possible Patrick was born before 1864 which is why you haven't found an extracted birth record for him. Have you tried contacting the church in Claudy for details about him- they might have birthdate somewhere in their records.
Ashlamaduff is in Newtownlimavady registration district but the Mullan certificates I have are mainly for Garbagh and Aghadowey so I haven't found anything helpful on the family yet.
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I was just looking at the census when I got your message...here he is in the 1901 census:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Malin/Ballagh/1184968/
Also Patrick O'Mullan, age 43, clergyman, is listed on the S.S. Carmania, that departed from Queenstown and arrived in New York on 22 Apr 1909. His nearest relative is listed as Mrs. O’Mullan, Garvagh, Co. Derry.
So the 1st would give us 1868 and the 2nd 1866 !
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Wonder if Patrick was baptised under another Christian name and took Patrick upon ordination? Did he stay in U.S. after 1909 or return to Ireland?
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He came home and was PP in Claudy. He died 16 February 1931
Administration Belfast 12 December to Margaret O'Kane hotel proprietor and widow on 29 January 1932. Nil effects
Then on 12 Dec 1938 Administration to Daniel O'Mullan farmer. Effects £61 11s. 6d.
You may be right about being Christened something else. Though I think it's only priests in religious orders who change their names,
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Fr Patrick O'Mullan started the restoration of St Patricks Old Church,Claudy which was finished around the time of his death in 1931.
Have you tried contacting the Parish of Cumber Upper and Learmount where he was in 1925, i am sure they could steer you towards getting some biographical information on him eg ordination,when he joined how old he was etc.
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Thanks Dathaí,
Fr Patrick added the tower and bell to the church. I will contact the parish and see if they have any records.
Mary
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Seated: Margaret O'Mullan O'Kane, Fr Patrick O'Mullan
Standing l-r:Winifred(Una) O'Kane, Patsy O'Kane, Georgina(Georgie) O'Kane
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I am currently watching "Who Do You Think You Are" on BBC1 and this family is being explored by actor/writer Mark Gatiss
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Yes, they were over here filming a while back. I've just finished watching the programme and really enjoyed although it was a bit disorienting the way they kept showing bits from all over the countryside for dramatic effect which had nothing to do with the story. Was also disappointed there was only a brief mention of the Commercial Hotel in Garvagh but it's difficult to fit everything into 1 hour.
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Was watching because my townland of Glack was included. Hmmm, those windmills are a fair dander from Glack.
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Was watching because my townland of Glack was included. Hmmm, those windmills are a fair dander from Glack.
... but probably not as far away as The Dark Hedges ;D
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I wondered about that...I thought there must be a similar road around Glenullin. I gave them a lot of information on the Commercial Hotel O'Kanes which they didn't include. The O'Mullan story was more interesting I suppose, if a little "streamlined" to fit with their formula.
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Would also have been nice if they'd mentioned where they got the 2 old photos from :-\
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They belong to O'Mullan descendants and were used with their permission.
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I thought that might be the case but if they'd said (on camera) here are pictures of your ancestor we got from relatives here it would have spoiled the effect they were after :o
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Search for the actor "Mark Gatiss" on the BBC TV programme "Who do you think you are" or try this link.
http://bbc.in/1h6NbQK (http://bbc.in/1h6NbQK)
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Yes - Great programme. You must be very excited.
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Thanks for your replies.Myself and a cousin were involved in giving them our research for the programme so unfortunately we didn't get any new information...they actually left out a lot!!