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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Bedfordshire => England => Bedfordshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: MaccaAddison on Monday 23 June 14 21:02 BST (UK)
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I wonder if anyone can help me. I have Frederick William Evans living with his grandfather in 1891 in Toddington, Bedfordshire but cannot find him in the 1891 census and therefore cannot identify his father and cannot find him after 1891, although I have a Frederick William joining the army in 1896. Can anybody help me identify him?
Many thanks
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wonder if anyone can help me. I have Frederick William Evans living with his grandfather in 1891 in Toddington, Bedfordshire but cannot find him in the 1891 census
Think you mean the 1881 census
When and where was he born?
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Carole
You are right, I meant to say cannot find him in 1881 census. He was 14 in 1891, so born 1877/1878 in a Toddington
But cannot find his birth or what happened to him, not certain it was in re the army in 1896.
Any help would be great.
Thanks
Mark
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1881 has a Fred Evans b 1874 Toddington living in Spalding Lincs
Ref RG11 Piece 3203 Folio 61 Page 33
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Carole
Yeah I saw that, but it is definitely listed as Frederick William in 1891 and this the was 14, so concluded that it was not him. Not sure.
Cheers
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His army papers state that his parents were William & Mary Evans of Luton Road, Toddington and that he had 4 brothers and 4 sisters; Henry, David, Samuel, George, Emily, Sarah, Martha & Elizabeth.
He died in South Africa in the Boer War on 14 Feb 1902
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Is there a father named on his marriage cert
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Some of those names are those of the children of his grandparents as shown on the 1881 census - all b Toddington
William Evans 45
Mary A 45
Elizabeth J 23
David 20
Harry (Henry?) 18
Dinah 16
Samuel 14
Emily 12
George 11
Louie 8
Jane 5
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Bedfordshire Boy
Thanks, he is living with a William Evans in 1891 and lists him as his grandson so am confused not his father. The other names you mention are listed as children of William & Mary.
You refer to his military papers, where are those listed to get the information you found - does it say where he died etc. in Boar War.
Could he have lied re father etc. on military papers as census of 1891 does contradict it
Thanks for all this help
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The army records also show that his grandfather was William, to whom his medals were sent, implying that his father had died in the meantime - there's the death of a William Evans age 42 in the Sep quarter 1903 in Ampthill registration district which includes Toddington.
The army records are on Ancestry.
He could have made up everything, but I prefer his army records to the 1891 census.
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Bedfordshire Boy
I have so much to learn and understand as I cannot see that info re hid military record on ancestry. I can see an FW a Evans dying on 15 February 1902.
Do you have a link?
I really want to learn, am I allowed you give you my email address.
You are a star thanks to you and Carole but now want yo find out more re his military and grind out who was his dad
Thanks
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The William who died in 1903 was born 1861 so if Frederick was b 1877 and William was his father - William would only have been 15/16yrs old when Frederick was born
In 1871 - Grandparents William & Mary Ann did not have a son called William
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On Ancestry, tick the Match all terms exactly box at the top; enter Frederick William Evans and Bedfordshire. I get 1248 hits. In the Military category there are 2 hits. One of them is your Frederick William Evans. There are 19 pages of his military records, most of them are duplicated, all are damaged. One of them is a note querying his date of death. Unit records show it as 14 Feb 1902, War Office records show 15 Feb 1902. The unit confirmed it as 14 Feb. He died at Lydenburg of peritonitis.
His medical examination on 13 Mar 1896 gave his age as 18 yrs 2 mths
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Bedfordshire Boy that is great, thanks for all your help.
Going to see if I can find him in 1881 and who was his dad / mum.
Will also do some research as to what action his regiment saw in the Boar War and any information on his death.
He listed his job as baker - that us what my family ultimately became, so he potentially is the first, I wonder who for and where?
This is whist I love about family history, the story continues.....
Many thanks