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Could SKS look up on the 1851 census for the following family. I am have a very hard time find the birth/batism record for George Barker and his marriage. He states on all the census records I have from 1861 - 1881 that he was born in Eckington, Derby. But unable to find him.
George Barker 49 Eckington
Hannah 54 "
George 22 "
Charles 20 " (grgrgrandfather)
Eliza 18 "
Rosetta 15 "
Thank you for any help.
Regards
Anne
Canada
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Hello Anne,
I take it the ages you state are from the 1861 Census? Here's what there is on the 1851 name index -
BARKER
George - 39
Hannah - 43
Sarah - 14
George - 12
Charles - 10
Eliza - 8
Rosetta - 5
(HO107/ 2148/ 258/ 48)
"2148" covers Eckington. I am unable to do a full look-up as the 1851 census is not yet available on CD ROM. I will take a look on the 1841 census for Eckington though, and see if I can find them on that.
Regards
Sue :)
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Hi again,
Here they are in 1841 -
1841
Eckington
George Barker 25 Coal Miner born in county - yes
Hannah Barker 30 yes
Joseph Barker 9 yes
Elizabeth Barker 7 yes
George Barker 3 yes
Sarah Barker 5 yes
Charles Barker 11m yes
James Marples 20 Coal Miner yes
(HO107/ 195/ 7/ 21)
Hope this helps.
Sue :)
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Hi
I have checked the 1851 census image and all i can add to what bagpuss as Posted, is the address is given as just "Egington"
there is an extra son Joseph, aged 19, he is a Coal miner as were George,39
and George, 12, Charles,10 and Eliza, 8 are Scholars and they are all born Egington.
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Hello Bagpuss and Alvaston Lad:
Thank you very much for the information. It gives me something more to work with, as I did not know about the son Joseph. So know I will have another go at trying to find the marriage. What is making it hard to track down George Barker is that there is another George Barker born in Eckington about the same time and I thought that was my George then I realized he was married to someone else!! Oh back to the drawing board as they say.
Thanks again.
Anne
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I can do the Eckington Census's and parish register if you tell me what you need.
David.
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Hello David:
Thank you for the offer. Could you look in the parish records for the birth of a George Barker born ca. 1811 - 12 according to the 1851 and 1861 census. He states that he was born in Eckington. I had looked at the parish records on a trip to SLC but I thought I had found him but it turned out to be someone else named George Barker as I found him married to somebody else.
Also have not been able to find a death for him as well. As he stayed in Eckington right up to the 1881 census, not on 1891 think he died between those years I he would be buried in Eckington.
Also having trouble finding a marriage for George Barker to a Hannah???
Their first child was named Joseph Barker born ca. 1832 according to 1841 census so think they must have married around 1831.
Thank you for taking the time to look for me. Maybe a fresh pair of eyes can find the baptism record for George!!
Thanks again
Anne
Canada
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Ok Anne, leave it with me, I live near Derbyshire Archives and also knew some of the Barker family from Eckington, I believe some are still around, I don't get to Eckington much these days, I might be a couple of weeks.
David {Chesterfield}
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Hello David:
Thank you very much, I really appreciate it. I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards
Anne
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Dear Anne,
Eckington Parish registers {Marriages 1800-1837
Wm Barker M Sarah Rotherham 12/9/1833
Wm Barker M Sarah Elliot 21/4/1836
Thos Barker M Mary Gratton 27/4/1835
Henry Barker M Charlotte Hibbert 4/5/1830
Wm Barker M Elizabeth Turner 9/6/1828
John Barker M Hannah Mettam 29/2/1824
Robert Barker M Sarah Crofts 21/10/1817
Thos Barker M Elizabeth Crookes 26/12/1812
Thos Barker M Ann Webster 29/11/1810
George Barker M Mary Story 19/9/1808
Joseph Barker M Ann Dobbs 18/3/1807
Thos Barker M Hannah Morton 30/6/1805
Moses Barker M Hannah Hattersly 27/12/1804
George Barker M Hannah Richards of Anston 5/9/1803
John Barker M Dinah Wildgoose 30/6/1800
Thos Barker M Mary Wragg 24/4/1800
Emmanuel Barker M Jane Hibberd 18/9/1839
Jonathon Barker M Eliza Harvey 6/1/1840
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BURIALS.
John Barker 9/7/1888 age 80
Elizabeth Barker 5/1/1888 age 60
Elizabeth barker 7/10/1877 age 77
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BAPTISMS.
George Barker = George & Elizabeth Barker 9/7/1812
Joseph Barker = George & Hannah Barker born 29/1/1831-- Bapt 28/9/1831
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I don't think I have answered your query but A George Barker is registered in the free BMDs at Chesterfield registration district died 1884 Dec Quarter age 74 so the age fits, cert ref 7b 452.
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Your George must have married elsewhere, I noticed a few of the Barker wives came from Beighton which is in the Sheffield district and I don't have access to them.
You probably have most of the above, but I will look in the Census to see if there are any clues there.
David.
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You could try this site for census, £5.00 for three months.
http://www.bmdindex.co.uk/
Also it is likely your Hardwicks are a local family mostly to the south of Chesterfield.
David.
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Dear Anne,
1851 census
George Barker 39 miner b.Eckington
Hannah Barker 43 "
Joseph Barker 19 "
Sarah Barker 14 "
George Barker 12 "
Charles Barker 10 "
Eliza Barker 8 "
Rosetta Barker 5 "
I know it's nothing new but just to confirm what you have.
David.
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David:
Thanks for sending the census information. It does confirm what I have. I am waiting for a birth certificate to arrive so that should give Hannah maiden name. Then I should be able to find a marriage.
Thanks again.
Regards
Anne
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Let me know if I can help.
David.
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Hello David:
I have just received the birth certificate today for Rosetta Barker daughter of George and Hannah Barker. It states that Hannah's maiden name is Marples.
I was wondering if the next time you are at the record office you could look up a marriage for George Barker and Hannah Marples. I have just done a search of familysearch and I have found a Hannah Marples born to a Henry and Sarah Marples of Eckington. Hannah was baptised 1 March 1808.This could be the right Hannah as from the census information Hannah's birth year is 1807 or 08.
I still think that they would have married in the Eckington area as all there children were born there. Plus both George and Hannah states on the census record that they were born in Eckington.
Any ideas where I could look next?
Thanks
Regards
Anne
Canada
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Dear Anne,
You have two old Eckington families there, the Marples lived mostly at the top end of Eckington {it's on a hill} and still do today, I remember as a teenager in the 60s having a fight with "spudder" Marples who lived up there, he's still around.
Anyway I'll do as you request.
David.
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Forgot to mention, found these on 1841 census, I know they are'nt what you're looking for but they are certainly tha same family.
Joseph Marples 35 Carpenter Eck.
Margaret Marples 35 "
John Marples 15 "
William Marples 13 "
Elizabeth Marples 11 "
Margaret Marples 2 "
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James Marples 20 Miner Eck
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Henry Marples 55 Ag Lab Eck
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Hello David:
Thank you very much for your help, I really appreciate it. Thanks for the 1841 census information on the Marples. I was looking over the Barker information that I have so far last night. And guess what when I looked at the 1841 census information for George and Hannah Barker I just noticed that the last person mention is a James Marples (the one you have listed) so I think that this is more proof that Hannah's maiden name is Marples. I wonder if the Henry Marples age 55 could be Hannah's father?? Going to do some checking on the Joseph Marples family you have listed. I find it really interesting that you would know someone with the surname Marples.
Did you win the fight??
Thanks again
Anne
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Did you win the fight??
Of course, Wimps them Marples ;D
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Hi Ann
I found these in my transcriptions of the Eckington baptisms.
Name Surname Gender Parents Day mth Year comments
Joseph MARPLES son Henry + Sarah 3 Mar 1805
Hannah MARPLES daughter of Henry + Sarah 1 Mar 1808 born 5th Feb
The Eckington folk also had a tendency to marry in Sheffield, Rotherham or Chesterfield.
I also have these for you from Sheffield Cathedral.
Day Mth Year Forename Surname Parents Comments
11 Nov 1798 Joseph &Benjamin INNOCENT George & Sarah Cutler
23 Feb 1800 Samuel INNOCENT George & Sarah Cutler
13 Sep 1801 Alice INNOCENT George & Sarah Cutler
14 Oct 1804 George INNOCENT George & Sarah Cutler
17 Nov 1790 Sarah INNOCENT John & Ann Cutler
28 Aug 1808 William INNOCENT John & Ann Cutler b.27/7/1808
2 Jun 1811 Thomas INNOCENT John & Ann Cutler b. 25/4/1811
7 Dec 1806 Mary INNOCENT John & Elizabeth Grinder b.9/11/1806
20 Jan 1811 Sarah INNOCENT John & Elizabeth Grinder b. 3/12/1810
1 Jan 1809 George INNOCENT John * Elizabeth Grinder b. 2/12/1808
31 Aug 1806 John INNOCENT Joseph & Ruth Sawyer b. 12/7/1806
20 Aug 1809 George INNOCENT Joseph & Ruth Sawyer b. 3/8/1809
22 Mar 1812 Joseph INNOCENT Joseph & Ruth Sawyer b 2/3/1812
25 Nov 1789 George INNOCENT Samuel & Mary Cutler
6 Jul 1788 Anne INNOCENT Thomas & Anne Cutler
4 Apr 1791 John INNOCENT Thomas & Anne Cutler
24 Nov 1793 Thomas INNOCENT Thomas & Anne Cutler
5 July 1795 Martha INNOCENT Thomas & Anne Cutler
21 Nov 1798 Amelia INNOCENT Thomas & Anne Cutler
20 Feb 1803 Elizabeth INNOCENT Thomas & Anne Cutler
23 Mar 1806 Lucy INNOCENT Thomas & Anne Cutler
The second date is the D.O.B.
Regards
Tuppie
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Hello Tuppie:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! I really appreciate you sending me this information. I am pretty sure this is the right Hannah Marples the birth year works out to the year on the census records. But I will have to do more research on this to be sure.
Also thank you for the Innocent baptisms. The Amelia Innocent is my line. You have certainly given me lots to work with.
Thanks again.
Regards
Anne
Canada
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Just to let you know I hav'nt forgotten you :-*
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Hello David:
Great to hear from you. don;t worry when ever you have time. I really appreciate you doing the look up for me.
Have a great week end.
Regards
Anne
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i'm going to have another look in Eckington registers and also Staveley, if they lived at the top end of Eckington they would be midway between the two.
David
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Dear Anne,
I had another look in Eck register but could'nt come up with anything new, could'nt find anything in Staveley register either but I realised I had'nt looked at marriages for c1831 so will have to look again :-*
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Anne
Just had a quick look at the Staveley marriages on Jayne McHugh's site
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/staveley/
but nothing there I'm afraid.
Ian
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Hello David and Ian:
Thank you both very much for taking the time to look for my Barker marriage. I really appreciate it. Guess this is going to be my new brick wall !!! I was sure the would have married in the area as the lived all their lives in Eckington.
Will have to come up with some new ideas. Wonder if they could have been married in Chesterfield??
Thanks again
Regards
Anne
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I'll have a look, they usually married in the Wifes parish but as they both appear to come from Eckington that does'nt seem to be the case ???
David.
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David
If you are looking for Barkers in Chesterfield could you also keep your eyes open for my Hannah Barker who I believe was born in Stonegravels in 1809 the daughter of Francis Barker and Catherine Buck. They married in Chesterfield in Feb 1802.
Hannah married George Harrison in Dronfield in 1826 and went on to raise a large family in Middle Handley.
Thanks
Ian
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OK, I've printed it out, but I only go every couple of weeks or so.
David.
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Thanks David
I'm not as far away as Anne, but Buckinghamshire to Matlock is still a good hike and not one I can do very often.
Ian
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Hello Anne.
What year are you looking for a marriage...I haven't followed all the thread.
Half of my Eckington folk were married in either Sheffield or Rotherham.
Jayne McHugh also came across this when we were researching for her Staveley site.
Chesterfield parish church is also an option.
Tuppie
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Hello Tuppie:
The year I am looking for is around 1830 - 31 as the first child born to the couple George Barker and Hannah Marples was born 28th Sept. 1831 in Eckington.
I know for sure Hannah's maiden name is Marples as I sent for the birth certificate of their daughter Rosetta Barker born 1845 so I could see what the mother's maiden name was.
Regards
Anne
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Hi Anne.
You can rule out Sheffield St Peters (later Cathedral) there is no marriage there. I checked Monday.
Regards
Tuppie
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Hi Tuppie:
Sorry I have been awhile in replying. Had my wisdom teeth (4) taken out on Tuesday. So not feeling that great but each day gettinb better. Thanks for looking guess I am back to trying different places. Think I will leave this marriage till I am in Salt Lake next spring and just look through different parishes while I am there.
Thanks again
Anne
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Dear Anne,
I seem to have lost the plot on this one, can you update me on what you have and what you need now, I had some other lookups connected to this and don't know what I've sent to who ???
David.
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Hello David"
Hope I am not causing you too much trouble!! I really appreciate your help. What I am looking for is the marriage of a George Barker and Hannah Marples. I now know that Hannah's maiden name is Marples as I got the birth certificate of their daughter Rosetta Barker which gives Hannah's maiden name as Marples.
The first child I have for George and Hannah Barker is Joseph Barker born 28 Sept. 1831 in Eckington. As both George and Hannah give their birth place on the census records as being born in Eckington, I would have thought they would have married there!! But you had checked and said you could not find any marriage in Eckington for them.
Tuppie looked in the marriage records for Sheffield and could not find any marriage there.
So now I think I am back to trying to figure out where they could have married. May guess would be some time between 1830 and 1831 when Josephe was born.
I think this is going to be my new brick wall !!
I welcome any ideas that you may have.
Thanks again
Anne
Canada
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It's no trouble Anne, I am obliged to find this info to avoid an international incident, and I enjoy doing it but I got your query mixed up with others {too many bits of paper}
There are only a few churches they could have married in at that date so I'll start at the beginning, I see your reasoning and must agree with you, just seems strange they are'nt in Eckington, I will look in St Mary Chesterfield which would be the mother church, you go about your business and I'll be back in a couple of weeks with your info ;D
David.
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hello david
thanks taking on the task of trying to find this marriage, I will just wait til lI hear from you again. But I am not doing too much right now as I had four wisdom teeth taken out on Tuesday. So not up to doing to much right now. Hubby thinks it is great I can;t talk much !!! Says I look like a chipmunk with my swollen cheeks!!
Thanks again
Anne
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original miss marples [haha]
sorry about my sense of humour
Sarah Marples Sister (Head) U 65 Sheffield York,
Annie Marples " U 63 "
Elizabeth Marples " U 62 "
Jane Marples " U 60 "
sylvia
Henry Marples f
Sarah m
dau hannah march 1 1808 eckington
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m sarah
f henry
AnnMarplesChristening: 10 Jan 1813 Eckington, Derby, England
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Now then young Anne, we are struggling on this one, I've been to the Archives and searched St Marys Chesterfield 1824-1834 Staveley 1824-1835 Eckington 1824-1835 No marriage, there is something wrong here.
David.
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Hi David.
there is something wrong here
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Not necessarily, we haven't tried Rotherham All Saints yet...
Tuppie
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Just seems strange all the children and them being born in Eckington, you would think the marriage would be local ???
Anyway with a name like Tuppy you must be a Derbyshire lad?
David, Chesterfield
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Hi David
Anyway with a name like Tuppy you must be a Derbyshire lad?
Not quite......a Derbyshire lass though....and you must be a Derbyshire lad to make the connection...... ;)
Tup 8)
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Hello David:
Thank you very much for looking for me I really appreciate it. I am at lost at as to where they could have married. Maybe they did not get married??? I wonder if it would be worth sending for another birth certificate to see what the mother's maiden name would be?? What do you think? As what if he there was two marriages? I don't know what else to think.
thanks again
Anne
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Tuppie, sorry, should have looked at your profile, Have you seen the Derbyshire Tup performed?
Sorry anne, you won't understand what we're on about,Just a Derbyshire custom, that seems to have died out.
Now then Anne, I'm at a total loss as to what to think, normally they would marry in the womans parish but as these two both come from the same one that does'nt apply????????????
David.
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WILD wild cards
William Webster married Hannah Marples 31 Dec 1831 Dronfield
Hannah Marple " Wm Hunt 1833 South Wingfield
hannah marples married george fletcher
29 jul 1827 darley dale derby
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a few births
the birth dates of rosetta and joseph ?? could his be wrong in 1831
Joseph barker Chesterfield Mar 1841
Rosetta barker Ch sep 1845
Hannah barker Ch dec 1844
sylvia
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Hi David.
I certainly have...I also know the words to it..
"T'owd Tup was performed in the "Spragg" Nags Head at Low Common between Renishaw and Barlbro into the 1980's., and other pubs around Eckington.
Sadly it seems to have died out. :(
Tuppie
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Hello Sylvia:
Thank you for the Marples - Barker information. The Rosetta Barker birth information is right as I got Rosettas' birth certificate a couple of weeks ago. It lists her parents as George Barker and Hannah Marples. Will check out the other births you gave along with the marriages. As maybe it was a second marriage for George and Hannah, I don;t know what to think now. That David could not find a marriage for them.
Thanks again
Anne
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hello,i answered my question
1851 census
Charles Barker Son 1841 Eckington
Eliza Barker Daughter 1844 "
Geoe Barker Son 1839 "
George Barker Head 1812 "
Hannah Barker Wife 1808 "
Joseph Barker Son 1832 "
Rosetta Barker Daughter 1846 "
Sarah Barker Daughter 1837 "
sylvia
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Hi Syliva:
Thanks for the census information. This family has become my new brick wall. I don;t know what to think about the marriage of Geroge and Hannah Barker. Maybe they did marry else where. I will just have to keep looking.
Thanks
Anne
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hello
i am stating to think they may not have been married.i have tried ancestry for all uk and come up with a lot of hannah marples and george barker but not together
sylvia
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www.research-uk.co.uk/derby.htm
this is a lot of info re derbyshire
wills of derbyshire
marples family history http://www.rodneyb.demon.co.uk
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sylvia
1881 census
George Barker Head W Male 70 Eckington Coal Miner
William White Boarder U Male 21 Marsh Lane derby
Henry K. White Gd Son Male 10 Hollinswood
Marsh Lane
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hannah marples born 1 march 1808 eckington
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george barker 28 aug 1803 born eckington
f john
mother mary
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may be family
William Marples, butcher, & Mary Orme 28 Nov 1836
Thomas Campion Mary Marples 21 Oct 1822 - Derbyshire
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You're working hard on this Fair Maiden, I would have thought I had missed the Marriage but the Eckington records are in very good condition and plain to read so I know I hav'nt missed it, We were neighbours of Robin Hood you know back in the 1200s in Sherwood, maybe you were the girl next door ;D
David.
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my age next birthday is 805 so i could have been your neighbour
sylvia
i cannot find a marriage on ancestry- family search-one great family.genuki- old uncle tom cobley and all
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You don't look a day over 400 ;D
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thanks sylvia
ex notts/derbys
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Hello Sylvia:
Thanks for the census information. I think I agree with you, I don;t think they married !! I had thought of sending for Hannah' death certificate but I don;t think that will give me any clues. Not like the Scottish ones.
Thanks again
Anne
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well gretna green is out
witnesses
1827sep10 BARKER ?marriage witnesses George EATON/Ann CLARK
1874jan31 BARKER Caroline marriage witnesses Thomas TURNER/Rosetta BARKER
sylvia
alternative spelling of these names
BARCKH, BARDES, BARGH, BARGHE, BARK, BARKE, BARKER,BARCKE,
MARPLE, MARPLES,
Hannah
Hanna
Hanah
Hana
George Georg Georgh Jeorge
best of british luck
sylvia
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HI Sylvia:
Thanks for the information. I think I am going to need the best of British Luck on this family.
I find it interesting that a Rosetta Barker was a wittness for the 1874 marriage for Caroline Barker. George and Hannah had a daughter Rosetta Barker and my great grandmother Eliza Barker had a sister Rosetta Barker.
Anne
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Henry Marples f
Sarah m
dau hannah march 1 1808 eckington
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m sarah
f henry
Ann MarplesChristening: 10 Jan 1813 Eckington
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BELPER WESLYAN
MaryBarker ch18FEB1808
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David Barker 12FEB 1821
Elizabeth Barker 27Jun 1817
Mary Barker 3 Nov 1815
Thomas Barker 3 Jan1812
may fit somewhere
sylvia
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Hi Sylvia:
thanks for the information. Will check it out. You never know one of these days I will get through this brick wall.
thanks again
Anne
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alfreton banns
Innocent Mary Thos. Hadfield p. Shirland 25/02/1798
sylvia
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1841 woodland eyam
William Marple 59 Messenger ntt Grove
Mary Marple 46 dby Over Haddon
sylvia
CHESTERFIELD BIRTHS AND CHRISTENINGS
all Barker
Sarah Anne 1848
Elizabeth 1850
Elizabeth 1851
Henry 1858
Arthur 1860
Emily 1861
Alice 1863
Ada 1866
Susan Ann 1871
Francis Alfred 1877
Minnie Elizabeth 1878
George Ernest 1879
Harry 1880
Florence Edith 1881
Lilian Beatrice 1881
Cecelia Agnes 1881
Ernest 1882
Evelin Anna 1883
Harold Edward 1883
Wilfred Arthur 1884
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all Marples
John 1856
Isaac 1865
William John 1866
Charles 1868
George 1871
Ann 1873
Sarah Elizabeth 1874
Ellen 1875
Eliza 1877
Thomas Isaac 1877
Matthew 1877
John William 1879
Sarah Ann 1880
Mary Ethel 1883
Ernest 1883
Thomas 1884
Harriet 1884
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Hi Syliva:
Thank you for the Barker and Marples information. Print if off and check it out. Thank you very much for doing this for me. I really appreciate it. One of these days I will find the marriage.
thanks
Anne
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wirksworth wills
Charles Barker 1897 Whittington
Charles " 1906 Bolehill Wirksworth
Charles frederick Barker 1919 Derby
Hannah Barker1897 Bakewell
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MARPLES Hannah 1897 Bolsover
MARPLES Charles 1860 Renishaw,Eckington
wills wirksworth
sylvia
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Hi Sylvia:
Thank you very much for the will information. I have printed the information off and will keep it till I go to Salt lake next spring and I will look up these wills. When I was there in April I found some wills for my Hotchkiss family and they were a big help. Hopefully these wills will as well.
Thank again for taking the time to look these wills up for me. I really appreciate it.
Cheers
Anne
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1851 census Eyam
78 main st
all barker
Luke H 54 Carpenter Eyam
Ann Wife 46 lan Oldham
Mary D 22 "Oldham
William son 18 dbys eyam / miner's in lead mines
Luke son 15 eyam miner
John son 13 Eyam miner
Robert son 11 dby Eyam Miner
Thomas son 8 Eyam
Ann Daur 5 Eyam
Henry Son 1 Eyam
main st
James Head Mar 24 Miner lan Oldham
Sarah Wife Mar 25 Saddleworth yks
Ann Elizabeth Daur 1 Eyam
sylvia
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Hi Syliva:
Thank you for the census information on these two barker families. Will check them out.
Thanks again
Anne
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no problem
sylvia
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Marriages St. Werburgh Derby
Thomas Campion, baker Mary Marples 21 Oct 1822
Richard Brain Mary Marples 24 Jun 1806
William Marples butcher Mary Orme 28 Nov 1836
Joseph Marples South Wingfield farmer Hannah Cholerton 26 Dec 1814
Samuel Marples builderMary Dunnicliff Melbourne 31 May 1825
sylvia
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Hi Anne,
I see you now have all the Barkers & Marples that ever existed ;D If you need anything doing on the ground as it were, I'm still at your service.
David.
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OOPS
sssssooooorrrrrryyyyyyy david
sylvia
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ps
there are a lot more
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Hello Marion and David:
I would like to say a very big Thank you to you both. I really appreciate you both taking the time to look up any information on the Barker and Marples families.
I am still sorting out all the information you both have sent me. But I am still stumped as to why there is no marriage for George Barker and Hannah Marples. Guess I will never know. But I am not giving up yet!!
Thanks again
Anne
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I'm new to this board so if I'm poking my nose in then my apologies. I have no evidence of the Barker- Marples marriage that you're looking for, if your Hannah Marples is the daughter of Henry & Sarah Marples, then I've got her family and ancestry if you're intrested.
Pigletpal
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hello Pigletpal:
welcome to the board. Yes, My Hannah Marples is the daughter of Henry and Sarah Marples. I have just started to research Hannah family so have not got much beyond who her parents are and I think I have found a brother. Any information would be very welcome.
Cheers
Anne
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Hello Anne
I think the first thing I should mention is that I;m not related to Hannah. I'll be very happy to let you have a GEDCOM of Hannah's family, if you could first let me know how you related to Hannah. Can the GECCOM be sent through here?
Kind regards
Pigletpal
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hello pigletpal:
I will get back to you again in a few minutes to let you know how I am related to hannah. I can't remember off the top of my head how many great grandmother's she is.. Have to look it up.
Cheers
Anne
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hi pigletpal:
Hannah Marples is my 3rd great grandmother.
Cheers
Anne
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Hello Anne
THnaks for that - would you care to give me details of Hannah and all her descendants, I'll add ito to my information and send you back the combine result.
Kind regards
Pigletpal
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hello Pigletpal:
I will certainly send you what information I have. Like I said before I am just starting to work on this family. I am just starting to get the Easter dinner ready. Would it be all right if I sent you the information tomorrow in a pm message to you.
Cheers
Anne
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Hello Anne
Certainly! I've been at this game for over 30 years or so, so waiting a few days is neither here or there!
Kind regards
Pigletpal
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Hi Ann
I have been trying to determine which parishes have been checked for a marriage, and I have come up with Staveley, Eckington, St Mary's Chesterfield and Sheffield St Peters, are you keeping a tally and if so are there any others that have been checked. I have also checked Eckington and Norton St James.
I'll check Rotherham All Saints on Thursday, along with Beighton St Mary's.
The others I suggest are Dronfield St John the Baptist, Killamarsh St Giles.
Do you have a copy of the parish map for Derbyshire?
Tuppie
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hello Tuppie:
I do not have a parish map of Derbyshire. Do you know of a website I can check?
I also did a double check on Eckington and no luck. But have found the baptism's of their children and also I got a very big surprise when checking the marriage I came across a Joseph Barker ( son of George Barker) marrying a Sarah Crossland who father was a John Crossland. The wittness were Eliza and Samuel White. Eliz who is the daughter of George and sister to Joseph. The surprise was the Crossland name as I have a grgrgandfather names Jim Crossland who father is John and Jim had a sister named Sarah. So decided to tack Joseph and Sarah and I found out that this Sarah was indeed a sister to my Jim. I must say it explains why my great grandmother was living with Elizabeth Bacon in Eckington on the 1871 census. Elizabeth is another sister to Joseph and Eliza.
You just never know what is going to turn in when you start looking. ... I Still have not come up the a marriage yet.
thank you very much for looking for me I really appreciate it.
Cheers
Anne
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Hi Ann.
Some HARDWICK marriages for you from Ridgeway St John the Evangelist.
15 Feb 1864 Lettice HARDWICK 17yrs/ Spinster/ Marsh Lane/ Father John HARDWICK/ Miner.
John FROST 23/Bachelor/ Handsworth/ Miner/ Father James FROST. Book Keeper.
Witnesses John HARDWICK and Martha FROST.
1 Jul 1862 Ann HARDWICK 20yrs/ S/ Marsh Lane/Father John HARDWICK Collier
Charles BARKER/ 22 /Bachelor/ Marsh Lane/ Collier/ Father George BARKER. Collier.
Witnesses. Joseph BARKER and Eliza BARKER.
12 May 1873 Emma HARDWICK 20 yrs/ Spinster/ Marsh Lane/ Father John HARDWICK. Underviewer
John MORLEY 23/ Bachelor/ Collier/ Lightwood Lane/ Father Henry MORLEY. Labourer.
Witnesses John HARDWICK and Mary TURNER.
PM me and I'll send you the map.
You will also find a PDF file at this location listing all the PRs and dates held by DRO. It gives you an idea as to when the various parishes where created.
http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/leisure/record_office/
Select "Our Collections" scroll down to Parish Records, there is also a non-conformist and cemetery guide.
Tuppie
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hello tuppie:
Thank you very much for the hardwick marriages. This is a big help. Will send you a p.m message with my e-mail address.
thanks again.
Anne
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Eckington registers online www.ridgeway.org.uk