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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Tugboat Annie on Sunday 06 July 14 08:56 BST (UK)
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I have just been given this photo of my great-great grandfather. Can someone possibly tell me what WW1 Regiment he was in? I am unable to clearly see the insignia on his cap. Many thanks
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Hi
The Cap Badge looks like the " General Service Corps 1908/1935 ".
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With the scroll underneath its possibly Manchester regiment
Are they Boer War ribbons?
Ady
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Thank you both,
No, it is not the Boer War but WWI.
Undoubtedly a Manchester link, as Samuel Oliver lived in Newton Heath. I think that there is an "oak" tree in the centre? Given Samuel's age at the time, could he have belonged to some sort of territorial unit?
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Hi, did he see service prior to WWI? as Ady ask's regarding possible Boar war ribbons and your comment regarding his age, could he have served prior to the outbreak of the first world war.
Frank.
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Frank,
No, as far as I know, Samuel did not serve before WW I.
I must admit, I don't know much about him as my grandfather was raised by his own grandparents and never spoke of his parents and other brother and sisters! These family members have only come to light in the past few weeks!
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I have a cunning plan!
If you have a look at the National Archive medal card index there are 46 entries for Samuel Oliver. By a process of elimination you can check the regiment cap badges and discard all those which don't match the photo and hopefully be left with the right one.
Incidentally, there are on the index:
Medal card of Oliver, Samuel H R. Corps: Manchester Regiment. Regiment No: 47260. Rank: Private
Medal card of Oliver, Samuel W. Corps: Manchester Regiment. Regiment No: 53356. Rank: Private. which might be your man.
Good hunting!
Philip
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Philip,
I think I have now exhausted every card in the National Archives and have possibly found "my" Samuel Oliver Taylor. Regiment 230 N° 201106, Private, Rifle Brigade.
But, which Rifle Brigade? enlisted when? discharged when? served where? All these questions promise more long hours of frustrating and fascinating research.
Thank you all for your interest and help
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Hi, There is a bit more information here on the "Manchester's",
just a bit more "Frustration" for you ;D don't you just love genealogy ;D
Regards.
Frank :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Regiment
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So he is Samuel (oliver) Taylor....the cap badge isnt Rifle Brigade and the Manchester Regiment is distinct.
He has two ribbons on his tunic that look like King and Queens South Africa Medals awarded for Boer War Service 1899-1902
medal index cards could have him as S Taylor,Samuel O Taylor, Samuel Taylor,Oliver Taylor if he used Oliver it really is difficult without a service number
Try Find My past pre 1915 records see if there are any hits?
Also here http://www..
Ady
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Ady,
I've found a Samuel Oliver Taylor - Medal card - Regiment 230/201106 Private Rifle Brigade but have not been able to find any service records.
However, this does not fit with your information. And, the daughter of my great aunt has only this photo but nothing more.
Thank you so much, I'll keep on looking
Ann
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Do you have his wifes details?
It wasnt Mary Ann Hobson?......just going through some ancestry papers
http://ashtonpals.webs.com/mancbadge.jpg
Cap badge above
Ady
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Morning Ady,
Samuel's wife was Ann Barber (see attachment)
Have a good day, Ann
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Ady,
You were definitely on the right track. I have managed to contact the daughter of my great aunt (Samuel's sister) and she remembers her mother saying that Samuel had fought in the Boer War. Unfortunately, she has no other memories of all this.
If you can come up with any other information, Ady, that would be wonderful. Already, thank you for all you have done.
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Ah! he did serve prior to 1914 then, the plot thickens ;)
Frank.
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Yes, Frank!
Samuel served with the Manchester Regiment (battalion unknown). I've been looking at Boer War sites all morning but have not advanced for the moment. Possibly never will get any further than this. But, am immensely happy with the results already achieved.
Ann
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Hi Ann
Are you aware that there is a public tree on Anc&**ry with quite a bit of information on?
Regards.
Frank.
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Yes, Frank. That's where I have my tree!
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:-[ :-[ :-[ sorry.
Frank.
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Think best place to go is register and post on
The manchester regiment website link is on my earlier post
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Ady