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Title: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Pev on Monday 14 July 14 18:33 BST (UK)
Hi guys. I am a member of the Pevreal family and am currently researching (relatively) recent family history. Gathering information from various sources including threads on this site, I have begun composing a family tree that dates back to the parents of William Henry Pevreal, who came to the North Island on the HMS Portland with his wife and six children in 1863. My lineage dates back to William Peverel, a Norman knight who fought at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. Historians believe he was the illegitimate son of William the Conqueror.

I'm certain that William Henry Pevreal (born 1819, died 1872), the one who brought the Pevreal family over to New Zealand, is my ancestor. But the problem is that I have not been able to trace a direct lineage. My great-grandfather is Edgar Alexander Pevreal, a former RAF pilot that fought at the Battle of Singapore, born 1919, died 2005/6. Judging by the birth dates of some other Pevreals, I believe he is a fourth generation Kiwi, so he should be the grandson of one of William Henry Pevreal's four sons: William Jr., Israel, George or Arthur. The problem is, I don't know which one, since neither I nor any of my father's generation know who Edgar's father was. From the tree I've composed so far, which covers parts of four generations of the Pevreal/Pavreal family since migrating to New Zealand, likely candidates for being the father of Edgar may be Evan Israel Pevreal (1879-1944), his brother Richard Andrew Pevreal (1881-1947), one of George Pevreal's three sons who didn't die young (William, George Robert or Herbert Andrew), or even a possible child of Arthur Pevreal, who I know nothing about except that he was born in 1864.

Help would be greatly appreciated, and I'd be willing to share any information on the family for anyone who is curious. If need be, you can send me a message or I can give you my email address.

Thanks,
Pev.
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: spades on Monday 14 July 14 19:12 BST (UK)
Hi Pev, and welcome. ;D

You posted your enquiry on the Resources & Offers Board and I have moved it to the main New Zealand Board where everyone can see it.

We use a Personal Message (PM) system to exchange email addresses, information about living persons, etc. You need to make another two posts to activate this facility: even a couple of smiley's is fine if not replies to others.

Good hunting. :)

Spades
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Pev on Monday 14 July 14 19:36 BST (UK)
Hi Pev, and welcome. ;D

You posted your enquiry on the Resources & Offers Board and I have moved it to the main New Zealand Board where everyone can see it.

We use a Personal Message (PM) system to exchange email addresses, information about living persons, etc. You need to make another two posts to activate this facility: even a couple of smiley's is fine if not replies to others.

Good hunting. :)

Spades
Okay, thanks for the help! :)
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: philipsearching on Monday 14 July 14 19:45 BST (UK)
Greetings, Pev,and a warm welcome to Rootschat.

Assuming that you would prefer not to wait 5 more years to search for Edgar Alexander Pevreal's birth details there does seem to be a way to get hold of them.  The web page www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords  gives details on how to search for records less than 100 years old.

I have not used this procedure so I can't be specific about how it works.  Hopefully another Rootschatter may help more.

Good hunting
Philip
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Janette on Monday 14 July 14 21:18 BST (UK)
Hi Pev,

Where did Edgar Alexander die? I don't see a death in NZ for him

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Janette on Monday 14 July 14 21:25 BST (UK)
This notice in PapersPast states he was the son of Mrs R A Pevreal

http://www.rootschat.com/links/018ev/

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Janette on Monday 14 July 14 21:31 BST (UK)
This marriage would fit your dates

1915/1333 Christina Agnes  Thompson to Richard Andrew  Pevreal 

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Janette on Monday 14 July 14 21:54 BST (UK)
According to Richard Andrew Pevreal's WW1 file,his parents were William Henry and Elizabeth,both born in England

http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE10096169

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Pev on Monday 14 July 14 21:58 BST (UK)
This notice in PapersPast states he was the son of Mrs R A Pevreal

http://www.rootschat.com/links/018ev/

Cheers Janette
Thank you so much, that's incredible! I had a hunch Richard was the father, since that's a significant name in my family. And Edgar passed away in Queensland.
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Pev on Monday 14 July 14 23:00 BST (UK)
Also, I'd like to know when Richard's father, William Henry Pevreal, died. His father of the same name brought him and five other kids over to NZ in 1863. I have not been able to find a record of William Jr.'s death so far, but there are plenty of census records confirming his birth date and marriage.
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Janette on Monday 14 July 14 23:05 BST (UK)
There is a coroners inquest for this man at Wellington archives

ACGS 16231 J46/1396  COR1953/573  Coroners inquests - Case files - Auckland - Pevreal, William Henry  1953 Wgtn

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23898273

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Janette on Monday 14 July 14 23:16 BST (UK)
There is a William Henry Pevreal died 5 May 1962 aged 85 years.  buried with his wife Florence Emily died 7 October 1983 in her 92nd year. in Gisborne

http://www.gdc.govt.nz/online-cemetery-record-search/

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Janette on Monday 14 July 14 23:28 BST (UK)
The 1953 death is

1953/19796 Pevreal  William Henry  aged 64Yrs  exact date 25/3/1953

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 14 July 14 23:29 BST (UK)
There is a coroners inquest for this man at Wellington archives

ACGS 16231 J46/1396  COR1953/573  Coroners inquests - Case files - Auckland - Pevreal, William Henry  1953 Wgtn

Cheers Janette

This William Henry Pevreal appears to be at Waikumete Cemetery.


http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bpz/


Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: Janette on Monday 14 July 14 23:32 BST (UK)
PEVREAL, WILLIAM HENRY
Plot :                                  NONCONFORMIST DIVISION C Row 31, Plot 67
Interment Type:              Burial
Title:                                  MR
Surname :                        PEVREAL
Given Names:                 WILLIAM HENRY
Age :                                  64
Gender :                            Male
Occupation:                     LABOURER
Date Of Death :                24-Mar-1953
Date Of Burial :                26-Mar-1953   
Funeral Director :           W M MORRISON FUNERAL DIRECTORS
Head Stone Details :      N/A

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Monday 14 July 14 23:46 BST (UK)
NZ Gazette Entries

Name : PEVREAL William Henry
Date : 1916
Place : Gisborne
Occupation : Labourer
Source :NZ Gazette 1916
Page : 3691
Record Type : Military Call Up

NZ Gazette Entries

Name : PEVREAL William Henry
Date : 1917
Place : Cook
Occupation : Shepherd
Source : NZ Gazette 1917
Page : 587
Record Type : Military Call Up

South Auckland Land Transmissions

Name : PEVREAL William Henry
Date : 15 Jan 1931
Land District : SA
Document Number : Z29740
Place : Tararu
Occupation : Farmer
Event Type : Death
Event Date : 06 Jan 1929
Certificate : Death
Will : No
Number of Pages : 5
Type : Declaration
Record Type : Transmission
Further enquiries to : Land Information New Zealand

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: mikel2009 on Saturday 27 December 14 22:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Pev,
          I am just exploring a new development on my nz cousins and have discovered that Christina Agnes Thompson is on my tree. I can trace her ancestry up to Scotland - if you fancy a diversion from the male line! I would be interested to know her descendents - the common bit of our path.
        Moira
Title: Re: Information on the Pevreal Family/Edgar Pevreal
Post by: jazzkatie on Sunday 05 March 23 23:54 GMT (UK)
Hi I am a descendant of Mary Ann Pevreal whose parents are William Henry Pevreal and Elizabeth Rossiter.
Mary Ann married Daniel Dee Hyde and my grandfather Charles Hyde was their 7th Child. Charles 2nd wife Mary Ellen Budd and my Mum Olwyn Daphne Mary Hyde was their 4th child.
Kind regards
Anne Lalich
New Zealand