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Title: Surname of Alexander and Moyse of ELMSWELL & WOOLPIT
Post by: mwkelly on Saturday 26 July 14 08:46 BST (UK)
Hello I am trying to find the family information Birth/Bapt and Burial of
Henry Alexander born abt 1799 Wyverstone married 1st Nov 1827 The Parish of Elmswell. to Mary Ann Moyse born c1806 Yaxley!
Subsequent search of this marriage entry has revealed the witness were William Alexander and Susan Alexander (a possible brother!) I also found a brother to Mary Ann Moyse that of James Moyse whom married in 1833 at Elmswell

Henry and Mary Ann's children are as follows
Patience
Thomas
George
Mary Ann
Henry
Jane
William
all born from 1828-1851 at Woolpit

Are there any MI's for this family
Thank you
Murray

Title: Re: Surname of Alexander and Moyse of ELMSWELL & WOOLPIT
Post by: diddymiller on Saturday 26 July 14 09:47 BST (UK)
Hi Suffolk burial index has 4 Alexanders at Woolpit:

Henry  17/2/1870 aged 73  (so should be in 1861 census)
Mary Ann  25/4/1876 aged 72  note: suicide in fit of temp insanity
Sarah Elizabeth  31/3/1846  aged 5 months
Jane  18/6/1853  aged 12

will see if suicide is in historical papers..

Diddy
Title: Re: Surname of Alexander and Moyse of ELMSWELL & WOOLPIT
Post by: diddymiller on Saturday 26 July 14 09:52 BST (UK)
WOOLPIT- Suicide of an Aged Woman.- Yesterday (Monday) an inquest was held at Woolpit. before G. A. Partridge Esq., Coroner, on the body of Mary Ann Alexander a widow, aged 72 years. It seems that deceased lived with a crippled son, who had been bedridden since November last, and for some time past the poor woman has suffered from depression of spirits. At about half- past six on Saturday morning the son (who saw his mother go up to bed between eight and nine on the previous night) called for her several times, but received no answer. About a quarter before eight a little girl named Clarke heard him calling, and fetched her mother, who, finding that the lid of the well was open, looked down it, and then saw deceased in the water. On the body being got out Mr. Leech, surgeon, was sent for, but he was of opinion that deceased had been in the well from four to six hours. Mr. Leech also said that he thought her son's state had preyed on her mind a good deal, and it was stated by the son that his mother had threatened to make away with herself.— The Jury found a verdict " That deceased drowned herself while in a state of temporary insanity."
Bury and Norwich Post - Tuesday 25 April 1876

Diddy
Title: Re: Surname of Alexander and Moyse of ELMSWELL & WOOLPIT
Post by: diddymiller on Saturday 26 July 14 09:58 BST (UK)
1861 woolpit:
Henry Allexander  63  born wibertone ag lab
 Mary A Allexander  55
 Patient Allexander  33 dressmaker
 George Allexander  25
 William Allexander  10 grandson looks like he must be son of Patience?

Diddy
Title: Re: Surname of Alexander and Moyse of ELMSWELL & WOOLPIT
Post by: diddymiller on Saturday 26 July 14 10:00 BST (UK)
interesting - on 1851 William is down as nephew of Henry!!

Diddy
Title: Re: Surname of Alexander and Moyse of ELMSWELL & WOOLPIT
Post by: diddymiller on Saturday 26 July 14 10:03 BST (UK)
1871 woolpit
Mary A Alexander  66 wid  pauper
George Alexander  35 son  note: lame from birth
Mary A Kettle  36
Mary A Mayes  11

so fits suicide story
Diddy
Title: Re: Surname of Alexander and Moyse of ELMSWELL & WOOLPIT
Post by: mwkelly on Monday 28 July 14 04:40 BST (UK)
Thankyou so much, would there be any Moyse's buried in the Woolpit churchyard cemetery
Cheers
Title: Re: Surname of Alexander and Moyse of ELMSWELL & WOOLPIT
Post by: diddymiller on Monday 28 July 14 09:46 BST (UK)
no Moyse's listed Woolpit on burial index. plenty elsewhere.

Diddy
Title: Re: Surname of Alexander and Moyse of ELMSWELL & WOOLPIT
Post by: colin buckle on Saturday 02 August 14 07:39 BST (UK)
Both Elmswell and Woolpit records are particularly well recorded on the internet. I found both these very useful for my research.

http://www.elmswell-history.org.uk/

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pbtyc/Den/Woolpit/Index.html
Title: Re: Surname of Alexander and Moyse of ELMSWELL & WOOLPIT
Post by: GR2 on Saturday 02 August 14 08:56 BST (UK)
Re "nephew" in the 1851 census, the original meaning of the word was grandson, and, although obsolete in that sense now, I have found it in a number of 19th century censuses in Scotland meaning grandson.