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Title: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: GabStar on Saturday 09 August 14 13:41 BST (UK)
Hello
My ancestor - Ada Welton is listed in the 1911 census as a vegetarian kitchen maid. She lived on a one room dwelling (12 Camillia St) in Lambeth.
Is there any way to find out where she worked?
Thanks :-)
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 09 August 14 16:51 BST (UK)
I wonder if she lodged where she worked kind of thing?  Might be worth looking at the previous/next census entry to see if it was a big house with other servants.
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: GabStar on Sunday 10 August 14 02:00 BST (UK)
How do you get access to the 1921 census?
I'll have a look at the 1901 one now and see what it says.
Thanks :)
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 10 August 14 02:51 BST (UK)
There is no access to the 1921 census.  :)

I think Milliepede meant that you should look at Ada's neighbours on the 1911 census to see if she was living in the same house where she was working.

There is a large family also living at No 12, however the head of household is a labourer with 10 people living in 5 rooms, so not particularly wealthy. If a family were to employ one live in servant, a "vegetarian kitchen maid" would be an odd choice I would think, and a family would be more likely to just employ a cook, or someone who undertook many and varied tasks within the home.

It looks like Ada may just have one room lodgings within the house, and be employed elsewhere.

It is unlikely that you will ever find out where she worked.

Did she marry? Was what her address when she married? Are there any clues there or in the names of witnesses?
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 10 August 14 10:45 BST (UK)
Apologies I wasn't clear.  Ruskie is correct I meant the neighbours census entries for 1911  :)
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 10 August 14 11:58 BST (UK)
Apologies I wasn't clear.  Ruskie is correct I meant the neighbours census entries for 1911  :)

I think you were clear Milliepede, (but I can understand how GabStar misunderstood).  ;D
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: Retriever on Sunday 10 August 14 12:07 BST (UK)
Do you think "vegetarian kitchen maid" actually meant she was a maid responsible for dealing with the vegetables in the kitchen of presumably a big house?

I wouldn't have thought there were many vegetarians around in those days.

Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 10 August 14 12:10 BST (UK)
Do you think "vegetarian kitchen maid" actually meant she was a maid responsible for dealing with the vegetables in the kitchen of presumably a big house?

I wouldn't have thought there were many vegetarians around in those days.

That's how I read it too - I think she might have been a "vegetable cook".
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: youngtug on Sunday 10 August 14 12:27 BST (UK)

I wouldn't have thought there were many vegetarians around in those days.
  Maybe not so many as today but;  http://restaurant-ingthroughhistory.com/2008/08/08/early-vegetarian-restaurants/                               Also;    http://www.ivu.org/history/timeline/1900.html
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: Galium on Sunday 10 August 14 12:34 BST (UK)
The Vegetarian Society was established in 1847 - more details on Wikipedia (George Bernard Shaw was a member). There was a vegetarian boarding school on Ham Common, which is perhaps a bit far from Camellia Street for Ada to be travelling daily, but it's possible that there were other places, maybe a restaurant, closer to where she lived. Perhaps someone at the Vegetarian Society might know.
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: youngtug on Sunday 10 August 14 13:57 BST (UK)
There was of course, amongst others, this one;   http://womanandhersphere.com/2012/09/06/suffrage-stories-suffragettes-and-tea-rooms-the-gardenia-restaurant/
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: behindthefrogs on Sunday 10 August 14 14:06 BST (UK)
My old dictionary from around that period defines vegetarian in the same way as we would today.  There is no indication that would link it to just working with vegetables.
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: Retriever on Sunday 10 August 14 14:23 BST (UK)
Thanks for all the information, very interesting. I am really surprised vegetarianism has been going for so long. Just shows I shouldn't make assumptions.
Title: Re: 1911 Vegetarian Kitchen maid - Lambeth
Post by: youngtug on Sunday 10 August 14 14:25 BST (UK)
 Makes an ASS out of U and ME   ;D