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Title: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: madeira066 on Monday 29 September 14 10:31 BST (UK)
Hi All.
My GGGG Grandparents were William Buxton and Sarah Buxton who had four children, Hannah 1772, Sarah 1775, Martin Hallam 1781, and Mary 1784 all Christened or born at Greasley Nottinghamshire from Family Search. I am trying to confirm the maiden name of their mother Sarah and wondered if their son Martins middle name Hallam could possibly be Sarah's maiden name. I checked Family Search for a Christening or Birth for a Sarah Hallam born Nottinghamshire between 1730 and 1740 and there was a Christening on the 22nd June 1738 at St Mary's Nottingham which stated her father as Martin Hallam which seems quite a coincidence. I then checked Family Search for a marriage of a William Buxton to a Sarah Hallam between 1750 and 1770 and the only one that shows was on the 3rd December 1752 at Sheffield West Yorkshire.
Has anyone any thoughts on this?.
Regards Dave.
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: sunflower on Monday 29 September 14 17:25 BST (UK)
Hi Dave

Sorry but that is not the right Sarah

The Sarah Hallam who was baptised to Martin & Rebecca was buried 26 June 1738 at St Mary's.   The entry states she was the daughter of Martin

Do you have the death / burial details of William & Sarah and their ages at death?

Carol
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: madeira066 on Tuesday 30 September 14 07:57 BST (UK)
Hi sunflower.
Thank you very much for your information.
The only information I have regarding William and Sarah is from Family Search stating that they were the parents of my GGG/Grandmother Hannah Buxton born 1772 at Greasley Nottinghamshire, I have looked for deaths for them in Nottinghamshire but cannot seem to find any possible burials.
Do you think that the middle name Hallam has any family connection or am I on a wild goose chase. Once again many thanks.
Dave.
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: sunflower on Tuesday 30 September 14 12:55 BST (UK)
It's a difficult question to answer.  Hallam is an unusual middle name, so could be a connection somewhere. 
Have you tried to eliminate the couple who married in Sheffield in 1752?   Were they still around in Sheffield having children when your ancestor was born in Nottingham in 1772.

Carol
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: madeira066 on Tuesday 30 September 14 15:34 BST (UK)
sunflower.
I have checked on Family Search for any Buxton births from 1752 to 1770 in Sheffield and there are five Christenings all with a William as their father they were 1753,1755,1757,1759 and 1761 all at the Cathedral Sheffield. There does not seem to be any in Sheffield for the same time as the Nottingham births of my family. It seems a large gap from their last child in 1761 to the birth of my GGG/Grandmother Hannah in 1772 in Greasley. I don't think I will able to connect the Sheffield marriage in 1752 to William and Sarah in Greasley. Many thanks for your help with this post.
Regards Dave.
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: larkspur on Tuesday 30 September 14 17:51 BST (UK)
Another coincidence perhaps and a long shot definitely , but the year before Martin Hallam was baptised there was a marriage at Gotham
25-12-1780 Joseph Buxton and Mary Hallam.
Wonder if Joseph and William were related?
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: Annie65115 on Sunday 05 October 14 21:12 BST (UK)
I have Hallams from Nottinghamshire in my tree from around this period and I'm sorry to say that it wasn't all that unusual a name in that there seem to have been examples of Hallam families in many villages.
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: Annie65115 on Sunday 05 October 14 21:23 BST (UK)
The only William and Sarah Buxton baptism at Gresley showing on the FHS CD is Martin's:


1781 10 21   Martin Hallam      parents   William   BUXTON   and  Sarah      

There are no marriages of any William Buxton + Sarah listed anywhere in the country prior to this.

Either they are just unlisted (the CDs aren't a complete record) or they were from elsewhere.




Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: Annie65115 on Sunday 05 October 14 21:29 BST (UK)
If Hannah was the first child b 1772, Sarah could have been born at any time up to the mid-late 1750s, and would you believe that there are no Sarah Hallam baptisms showing anywhere in Notts in the period 1735-1755!
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: larkspur on Monday 06 October 14 15:06 BST (UK)
NFHS has 9 baptisms for a Sarah Hallam 1745  +- 10 years.
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: Annie65115 on Monday 06 October 14 15:24 BST (UK)
Good grief, I must be going slightly mad because you're right,Larkspur, and yet I didn't find those at all last night!

Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: larkspur on Monday 06 October 14 15:35 BST (UK)
 ;)
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: jasonh on Monday 06 October 14 17:26 BST (UK)
Hi, I had buxtons in the same area at similar times. My gggggrandfather john buxton was born 1791 brinsley nottingham(under the greasley district) I havnt been able to go back further I had believed his parents might of been john and mary, they where in the area for some time and johns (b1791) 1st child william buxton was also born in brinsley 1818, they were farmers/millers. I wonder if there was a connection some how?
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: larkspur on Monday 06 October 14 17:38 BST (UK)
Hello Jason
Baptism Greasley
7-9-1790 John son of John and Mary Buxton
22-3-1818 Willm. son of John and Sarah Buxton abode Brinsley father a labourer.

Only three burials at Greasley
2-6-1813 John Buxton aged 88 abode Brinsley
3-4-1782 Mary Buxton age 73
22-12-1789 John Buxton infant.
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: jasonh on Monday 06 October 14 17:43 BST (UK)
Hello, thanks, I thought it had been john and mary as parents,thanks.  I wonder if john snr and william stated before could be related some how, but going that far back there's no way of knowing realy is they?
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: jasonh on Monday 06 October 14 17:56 BST (UK)
Do you think the john and mary who passed in greasley are to old to be the parents of my john b1791 ? Would you be able to find out the surname of the sarah who married john buxton? If possible realy appreciate it, I have never had much luck with anything before the 1841 census.
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: larkspur on Monday 06 October 14 18:00 BST (UK)
The Greasley baptisms do not go far enough back on NFHS to look for them sadly.
I did have a look for a marriage for John and Sarah but no go there either.
The records for Brinsley are much too late, middle 1800s.
There are a couple of burials at Basford
27-9-1828 John Buxton age 63
4-7-1859 Mary Buxton age 70
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: jasonh on Monday 06 October 14 18:00 BST (UK)
Sorry just read it again and relised that mary passed before john was born
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: larkspur on Monday 06 October 14 18:01 BST (UK)
Yes I do think the couple are too old to be parents of your John , possibly grand parents?
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: larkspur on Monday 06 October 14 18:04 BST (UK)
There is only one marriage for a John Buxton to a Sarah in the right time frame, but I can only find one child, John in 1790.
Marriage Nottingham St Mary
3-10-1785 John Buxton and Sarah Woodhouse.
This couple however were having children baptised in Nottm St Mary, there is a gap to fit in John in 1790, but would they move to Greasley for one childs baptism and then back to Nottingham for anothers ?
Baptisms Nottm St Mary
Parents John & Sarah Buxton
10-2-1786 William
11-3-1787 John  burial 3-10-1788 notes son of John.
30-3-1788 Andrew
7-11-1791 Mary
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: jasonh on Monday 06 October 14 18:13 BST (UK)
Never thought of grandparents,its a possibility eh. The basford reg could be a possibility for john b1790 father to. John born 1790 would of married sarah around 1817ish but as they headed more toward derbyshire there second child robert was born in calow under chesterfield distritct then sarah passed not long after and john remarried
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: jasonh on Monday 06 October 14 18:17 BST (UK)
Didn't we think john born 1790 parents where john and mary? John born 1790 married sarah
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: jasonh on Monday 06 October 14 18:51 BST (UK)
So john buxton was born 1790 in greasley distract parents mary and john. The john that was born in 1790 married a sarah and had there 1st son william in 1818 brinsley. This is the sarah I don't know what her maiden name was. Also do you know if they were any other children born to mary and john that could be possible siblings of john born 1790 ? I hope I worded that right lol gets confusing with so many mention of the same name but different person seems they were all johns,sarahs and williams lol
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: larkspur on Tuesday 07 October 14 16:22 BST (UK)
As I mentioned in an earlier post, there are no other children at Greasley baptised to John and Mary
Burial Greasley
22-12-1789 John Buxton infant. I cannot even find a baptism for this little chap.

Have you come across this site? http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: larkspur on Tuesday 07 October 14 16:30 BST (UK)
There is a marriage on Freereg at Greasley
26th Dec 1782 for John Woodhouse of Strelley and Mary Buxton of Kimberley....wonder if a possibility of Woodhouse brother and sister marrying Buxton brother and Sister??
Still, sorry , does not help you with the marriage of your John and Sarah.
Title: Re: William and Sarah Buxton.
Post by: larkspur on Tuesday 07 October 14 16:45 BST (UK)
Yes I do think the couple are too old to be parents of your John , possibly grand parents?

John Buried 1828 aged 63 = birth Circa 1755
Mary Buried 1859 aged 70 = birth Circa 1789
There is only 1 John Buxton baptism coming up for 1755 ,on NFHS, but that is 51 miles away in Misterton.

From family search
baptism 1st Aug 1755 East Leake
John Buxton parents John and Alice