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Title: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: amandar on Wednesday 01 October 14 21:22 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am looking for the above, have found the family in 1871 census living at !5 Yeats Lane, Aberdeen. Says Mary Walker born 1833 (Seaman wife), not showing a William, there is a Andrew Walker  born 1870  and an Alexandrina born 1866 in Aberdeen.

Would love to hear if anyone has any information

Kind Regards

Amanda
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: AMBLY on Thursday 02 October 14 12:33 BST (UK)
For reference these are the 3 children as per the 1871 Census, all found on Family Search (IGI):

Alexandrina WALKER
B 11 Sep 1865 St, Nicholas, Aberdeen

Mary Bruce WALKER
B 5 Jan 1868 Aberdeen, St Nicholas, Aberdeen

Andrew Gordon WALKER
B 18 Jan 1870, St Nicholas, Aberdeen

And their mother Mary, said to be born Stonehaven, Kincardineshire.

Do you have any of them anywhere after 1871? BDM or Census? Not finding a sausage in 1881 or any other time!

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 02 October 14 13:23 BST (UK)
A hard family to find is this the marriage for Mary Bruce and William Walker in Dundee 22/5/1865 ?
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 02 October 14 13:32 BST (UK)
Wonder if this is William in the 1871 census civil parish vessels Millwall Dock  Poplar London
William Walker born Aberdeen abt 1832 age 39 married   engineer
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 02 October 14 13:37 BST (UK)
The same William again I think in the 1881 census same birth year and place now chief engineer
name of ship Tyne Queen ..Registration district Plymouth ...
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: MaureeninNY on Thursday 02 October 14 14:22 BST (UK)
There's a Mary Bruce WALKES (sic) on A* marrying Oct 23 1886 Birstall St Peter-father William a mariner. Spouse is W*llington SCHOL*FIELD.

Maureen
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: amandar on Thursday 02 October 14 14:40 BST (UK)
Hi there,

Marriage to William Walker and Mary Bruce on Familysearch site.  showing 22/5/1865 Dundee

thank you for all your help

Regards

Amanda
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 02 October 14 15:03 BST (UK)
There's a Mary Bruce WALKES (sic) on A* marrying Oct 23 1886 Birstall St Peter-father William a mariner. Spouse is W*llington SCHOL*FIELD.

Maureen
I would agree Maureen looks like Walker  :)
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: amandar on Thursday 02 October 14 15:21 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I do not know the parents names of William Walker.  The son Andrew Gordon Walker born 1870 Aberdeen married Mary Turner Walker (from Rotherham) married in 1894 reg Barnsley. Alexandrina moved to Yorkshire married a Fred Wood from Dewsbury. Not sure what happended to Mary Walker nee Bruce. Williams wife.

Regards

Amanda
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: amandar on Thursday 02 October 14 15:21 BST (UK)
Hi,

Meant to say Mary Turner Alton married Andrew Gordon Walker

Regards

Amanda
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 02 October 14 15:35 BST (UK)
Hi Amanda if you get a copy of their marriage certificate for William and Mary  it will give you the parent's names you will be able to view that on Scotlands People if you have not used this site before you can buy credits for £7.00 ....and it will take 6 to search and view .Was William born in Aberdeen or Dundee ?
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 02 October 14 16:01 BST (UK)
This could be a possibility for the mother in 1901 census address hard to make out Leyland ? Road Burnley
Mary Walker b 1832 aged 69 widowed living on her own ...charwoman
Just checked other census forms don't think this is yours as she is with a son Archibald George Walker b 1874 Barrow in Furness no other children with her  :(
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: MaureeninNY on Thursday 02 October 14 18:45 BST (UK)
???
1881 in Barugh/Barnsley

Wm WALKER Occ:Rope repairer and family.

 4604;  167;  29;

He has a new wife (Eliz.) and son John born 1873. Just wondering as his occupation on Alexandrina's marriage cert was rope splicer.

Maureen
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: AMBLY on Thursday 02 October 14 21:14 BST (UK)
Hi Amanda,

You're not mentioning at all, the middle child of William & Mary , Mary Bruce WALKER born 1868,   even though she's there on Family search and there in the 1871 Census?  She may hold keys as to what became of her parents and why you (we) can't find them in 1881.

The 1886 marriage  Maureen found, in fuller detail:

Mary Bruce WALKER
M 23 Oct 1886, at age 18, at Birstall St Peter  to:
Wellington SCHOLFIELD, age 24
Both of Heckmondwicke
Brides: Father William, Mariner
Witness: Walliam WALKER (the other witness was a Scholefield)

That marriage is I'd say, pretty much certain to be  'your'  Mary (later census show she was born Aberdeen). It's in the right area of Yorkshire (where her 2 siblings are marrying in). In which case,  the witness at Mary's wedding, William WALKER, is likely to be her father.  He has signed his name in large, bold, writing though not terribly 'literate' looking. If that signature could be compared to that which may be on the marriage of William WALKER & Mary BRUCE, and there is a match....

The Census Maureen found, in full detail....shows  the other 2 children in the household
Census In 1881: Gawber, in Barugh, Yorkshire (Barnsley district)
RG11 /Piece 4604 /Folio: 167 / Pg29
Head: Wm WALKER, 42, Rope Repairer, b Scotland
Wife: Eliz. WALKER 40, b Scotland
Dau: Mary WALKER 13, Dom Serv, b Scotland
Son: Andrew WALKER 11, b Scotland
Son: John WALKER 8, b Scotland

Then there is this:
In 1891: ?Answorth Road, Ilkeston, Derbyshire
RG12 /Piece  2664 / Folio  104A / Pg38
Head: William WALKER 54, married, (Wire) Rope Worker, b Aberdeen, Scotland
Step-Son: John DAVIDSON 15, Apprentice Engine Fitter, b Stranra, Scotland
Visitor: Alexander SOUTTER 51, married, Butcher, b Aberdeen, Scotland

Census In 1891,
Wellington SCHOEFIELD & wife Mary are in hamlet of Norristhorpe Lane, Liversedge, Yorkshire, with their 1 yr old daughter, Mary.  Wife Mary is 23, born (abt 1868), Aberdeen Scotland
RG12/ Piece 3726 / Folio 32 / Pg20
Liversedge is in the Dewsbury Registration District.

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: AMBLY on Thursday 02 October 14 21:22 BST (UK)
On FreeBMD
June Qtr 1880, Barnsley
MARRIAGE, on the same page are:
William WALKER
Elizabeth DAVIDSON

Have to go to work  ;D  :P  :'(
Can't look more into this now - but maybe this may be your William, remarrying  (if that's the right pairing of bride & groom)

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 03 October 14 12:24 BST (UK)
Marriage for Alexanderina Walker 17th December 1887 at St John the Baptist Dawgreen York
Fred Wood 24,bachelor ..warehouse man residence at the time of marriage Arthur Street father Jabez Wood ..foreman
Alexanderina Walker age 22,spinster residence Dewsbury father William Walker ..rope splicer as Ambly and Maureen confirmed
Witnesses Robert Smith and Elizabeth Ann B???ley  :)
Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: rosie17 on Friday 03 October 14 12:36 BST (UK)
1901 census for Fred Wood 55,Mill Hill Pudsey Yorkshire
Fred Wood says age 57 should be 37 born Dewsbury
Alexandrina age 35 born Aberdeen Scotland
Jabez William Wood b 1889 Yorkshire age 12
Oswald Henry Wood b 1891 Leeds age 9
Alexander Fred Wood b 1893 Leeds age 8 ( Army Records for this Alexander )
Tom Wood b 1895 age 6
Richard Westrope Wood b 1897 age 4
Jane Elizabeth Hamp b 1879 age 22 ( Freds sister )
They also have a Alexanderina and a Dorothy  :)


Title: Re: 1881 Scotland Census Look up for William Walker (Seaman) & Mary Walker Nee Bruce
Post by: amandar on Saturday 04 October 14 20:18 BST (UK)
Thank you for all your information.

Kind Regards

Amanda
Title: Re Alexandrina Walker (born Aberdeen) and Fred Wood
Post by: amandar on Saturday 04 October 14 21:11 BST (UK)
Hi,

Is the name Jabez -  Jonathan?  It showing Jonathan born Dewsbury with the same  family details given on Archives site on Family Trees) with a wife Mary? But  on 1881 Census showing Fred Wood with Jabez Wood (father)with Hannah address given Cliff St Dewsbury. Fred Wood  - Occupation Woollen Beamer). 

Kind Regards

Amanda