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Title: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: grannygreen on Sunday 19 October 14 15:17 BST (UK)
Good afternoon all

I am needing some help regarding my husbands 3rd great grandfather John Blacow born near Garstang c1793.

He moved to live in Halifax in 1841 and I have followed his family from there onwards and have all his children (I think!)

He married Mary Wharton (born Lower Wiresdale, Nr Garstang) on 19 June 1813 at Garstang

His son Thomas I know was born in Ellel c1831
His daughter Margaret (our main line link) was born 30th March 1821 at Nateby Hall, Garstang, Lancashire

There are several other children all down as born Garstang

I am wanting to find John's father and mother - I have found Richard Blackow (b1765) and his wife Margaret (b1770) who had a John but I cannot prove this is the correct John,

Up to now all the family have been Catholics

Hoping someone else is maybe researching this same line - I am really hoping I can link this to Henry Blacow (born 1 December 1729) line in Broughton as then I can go back several generations

Looking forward to anyone that can help

many thanks

Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: shirl100 on Sunday 19 October 14 17:00 BST (UK)
From freereg there is this baptism

St Mary and St Michael, Garstang
John BLACKOW b 8 Apr 1792, bap 8 Apr 1792 parents Richard & Peggy
Sponsors John Valentine, Betty Charnley

Shirl

Peggy is a short version of Margaret so it's looking promising
Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 19 October 14 17:08 BST (UK)
From freereg there is this baptism

St Mary and St Michael, Garstang
John BLACKOW b 8 Apr 1792, bap 8 Apr 1792 parents Richard & Peggy
Sponsors John Valentine, Betty Charnley

Shirl

Peggy is a short version of Margaret so it's looking promising

It could also be the John who was born Ellel around the same time.  :-\

I assume you have a birth certificate to back up Johns wife as Mary Wharton - I know there was another John who married Mary Sturzacker around the same time in Garstang
Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: grannygreen on Sunday 19 October 14 18:00 BST (UK)
This sounds promising and is really the one I am hoping for

Thank you so much for your help


From freereg there is this baptism

St Mary and St Michael, Garstang
John BLACKOW b 8 Apr 1792, bap 8 Apr 1792 parents Richard & Peggy
Sponsors John Valentine, Betty Charnley

Shirl

Peggy is a short version of Margaret so it's looking promising
Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: grannygreen on Sunday 19 October 14 18:03 BST (UK)
I am positive it is not Mary Sturzacker as i have gone down that path and realised I was on the wrong John

Thank you for your interest

What a wonderful frustrating hobby this is




From freereg there is this baptism

St Mary and St Michael, Garstang
John BLACKOW b 8 Apr 1792, bap 8 Apr 1792 parents Richard & Peggy
Sponsors John Valentine, Betty Charnley

Shirl

Peggy is a short version of Margaret so it's looking promising

It could also be the John who was born Ellel around the same time.  :-\

I assume you have a birth certificate to back up Johns wife as Mary Wharton - I know there was another John who married Mary Sturzacker around the same time in Garstang
Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: GarthUK on Monday 08 April 19 21:38 BST (UK)
Hi just hoping GrannyGreen that you are still doing family history. John Blacoe is also my 3Xgt grandfather. I am related through his 2nd son John. I still live in Halifax. I am just getting back into research after a couple of years off and afraid I don't have much more than you and as your post is a few years old you may well have made good progress in the meantime. I am starting to find more people with our Blacoe/Blakey's in their trees so hopefully progess can be made.
Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 08 April 19 23:43 BST (UK)
Hello, Garth. Welcome to RootsChat.
Grannygreen last posted 2 years ago. That post was also in connection with the Blacoe family of Garstang.
Click on grannygreen's profile. You can read her other posts. You may find relevant information among them.
Providing granygreen hasn't changed her email address she should receive an alert that there has been a reply to this thread.
When you have made a few more posts you can use the private message option if you wish.
Have you added Blacoe to Surname Interest and searched for other Blacoe listings there? Click on "Surname Interests" in brown section at foot of this page.
I have a distant connection with a Blacoe/Blacow family who were in Kirkham parish 18th-19th centuries.
Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: GarthUK on Tuesday 09 April 19 19:23 BST (UK)
Thanks for the tips. I have been looking through Blakey/Blacoe etc posts, as time permits.
I have to check my surname interests as its awhile since I joined and used Rootschat.
My Blacoes were from Garstang area but if I remember correctly from a few years back the parishes around there are fairly small in area and distance, so we maybe related. The family moved to Halifax in the 1830's and all but 1 son changed there name to Blakey by 1851. One of my early "brick walls" when working back was no Blakeys in 1841 census for Halifax and 6 hours at Preston PRO dint find any either. THEN in the last 15 minutes I was browsing the Catholic registers transcription books (published c1930's) I noticed lots of Blaco(w)e's right dates right forenames. Check 1841 census the following day and they were all there under their original surname. So maybe we are related way back.

Thanks again,

Richard Blakey
Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: ElsaBaines on Thursday 13 June 19 18:28 BST (UK)
Hello

I'm Elsa, nee Baines and have a family tree going back to 1702 and can answer a lot of your questions. My Baines connections run through Claughton on Brock and we have an immense family tree. You are free to ask me anything and can email me at (*)

I live in Walmer Bridge and am fascinated by this family tree history!

Regards

Elsa Sacchetti




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Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 13 June 19 19:01 BST (UK)
Hello, Elsa. Welcome to RootsChat.
Another contributor to RootsChat will be interested in Baines. Have you added them to "Surname Interests"? It's under "Your Tools" in brown section at foot of page.
Do you have connections to Blacow?
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Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: ElsaBaines on Friday 14 June 19 17:47 BST (UK)
Sorry for the personal email!  Looking forward to hearing from Baines peopl
Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 14 June 19 17:50 BST (UK)
Are your Baines related to the Blackow/Blacow (etc) family that this post is about, if so where is the link
Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 14 June 19 17:55 BST (UK)
Elsa, you could start a new thread on Lancashire board about Baines in Garstang area to attract attention. This one will only be noticed by people interested in Blacow.
Just seen Rosie's post.
Perhaps Elsa's posts should be split off to make a new thread and given an appropriate title. (Elsa,  moderators will decide whether to split/combine/move threads and posts if they are asked.)
Title: Re: John Blackow/Blacow/Blacoe/Blakey born near Garstang born c1793
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 14 June 19 18:30 BST (UK)
Blacow ancestors of grannygreen were related to Baines.
John Baines, miller, Garstang married Mary Blaco at  St. Helen's, Garstang, 5th April 1760.