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Title: traves family
Post by: jobyjo on Friday 31 October 14 07:09 GMT (UK)
I am looking for a Millicent or Millie Traves her last address was in Penfold Rd. Worthing 1n the 1980s where she died, but I think she also lived in Southampton and Bournemouth over tme, Any leads would be great thanks.
Jobyjo
Title: Re: traves family
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 31 October 14 08:32 GMT (UK)
Is Traves her maiden name?

I can see:
Births, June qtr 1920
Christchurch district (Hampshire)     vol 2b, page 1457
Traves, Millicent M     Mother's Maiden Name: Painter


Marriage, September qtr 1939
Bournemouth district      vol 2b, page 3179
Traves, Millicent M
Pedder, Frank


There are children born in 1944 and 1947 - but as they may still be alive, I'll leave you to find them on FreeBMD?


According to a tree on Ancestry:

Death, February 1991
Bourne district (Lincolnshire)     vol 7, page 1525
Cooper, Millicent May
Birth date: 19th May 1920
Title: Re: traves family
Post by: trish1120 on Friday 31 October 14 12:41 GMT (UK)
June 1914, Christchurch, 2b 1538
Dora B PAINTER/Arthur E TRAVES

Dora Beatrice TRAVES died 1979 Poole, Dorset, age 94, Birth 3 Jan 1885
Arthur E TRAVES died Sept 1953, Bournemouth, Hampshire, age 76, Birth about 1877

Whoever the informant was on Doras Death Cert may have been incorrect on her year of birth;

Dora Beatrice PAINTER Baptsied 06 March 1887, Puddletown, Dorset
Parents FREDERICK/CHARLOTTE
Fathers Occp Carter

1901 Census
Ducks Hole,
Northbrook and Piddletown, Puddletown, Dorset
RG13/2003/35/4
Frederick Painter, 38, Head, Mar, Carter
Charlotte Painter, 32, Wife, Mar
DORA B Painter, 14, Daug
Florence H Painter, 13, Daug
Alice E E Painter, 11, Daug
William E Painter, 10, Son

1891;
Frederick Painter 29
Charlotte Painter 23
Dora B Painter    4
Florence H Painter 3
Alice E G Painter    2
William G Painter 9/12mths

Marriage of Frederick 1886 is on FreeBMD

I'll let you know that Fred/Dora has a Couple of Children together before they Married as they are together in 1911 Census.

Trish :)
Title: Re: traves family
Post by: avm228 on Friday 31 October 14 12:47 GMT (UK)
Following on from what has been found, I see that M. M. Cooper was at 26 Penfold Rd, Worthing in the 1980-1984 telephone directories.
Title: Re: traves family
Post by: LizzieL on Friday 31 October 14 12:50 GMT (UK)
Arthur and Dora had another registered the same quarter they married in 1914, so 10 in total !

Can't find Arthur in 1901, he isn't with parent Joseph and Mary in Pokesdown.

Don't see an earlier marriage for Arthur either, so wonder why he and Dora Beatrice didn't marry before 1914.
Title: Re: traves family
Post by: LizzieL on Friday 31 October 14 13:14 GMT (UK)
Where does the Cooper surname come from? I can't see a marriage for a widowed Millicent Pedder (nee Traves) to a Mr Cooper
Title: Re: traves family
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 31 October 14 13:22 GMT (UK)
I couldn't find a death for Millicent Pedder?
There are 2 trees on Ancestry that have her death as Cooper - but no documentation?!

I was hoping for confirmation from OP before delving any deeper ;D ;D


FRancis Pedder died (according to the trees) 1994 in Rochdale, so we may be looking for a divorce?
Title: Re: traves family
Post by: avm228 on Friday 31 October 14 13:24 GMT (UK)
The trees also suggest that Frank/Francis Pedder outlived her - perhaps she did not remarry but informally took a Mr Cooper's name?
Title: Re: traves family
Post by: LizzieL on Friday 31 October 14 14:10 GMT (UK)
Oh yes I see, so possibly Millicent and Frank split up and she later lived with Mr Cooper and the informant on her death registration thought they were married. That scenario would fit with Frank outliving her. The Frank who died in Rochdale would be the right sort of age to marry a woman born in 1920. The OP would need to get marriage cert to confirm his father was Fred Pedder (who married Sarah Grimshaw)
Title: Re: traves family
Post by: jobyjo on Wednesday 05 November 14 15:54 GMT (UK)
Thank you kgerrard Trish Avm and Lizzel for all the really good finds on Millie. I know she died with the name Cooper, as with many women they keep the name of a deceased husband and partner.Traves was her maiden name and her mother came from Christchurch which was in Hampshire at that time.I lived in Hampshire until recently but now live in Sussex,so it was a surprise to see she was born in Hants too.Perhaps now I can go back further after getting a good starting point from all of you, and thank you once again for your kindness.
Jobyjo