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Title: Decifering Records
Post by: Duncan Bennie on Wednesday 04 February 15 22:17 GMT (UK)
Hi all, you have all been of invaluable help in the last week or so, so I am going to call on your services once again, I am having great trouble deciphering a marriage record:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12115-149824-3?cc=2063749 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12115-149824-3?cc=2063749)

I cannot work out his occupation, both their places of residence and the initials of the du Preez witness.

The other problem record is Godfrey Charles and his brother's baptism they are the second and third one on the right hand page. I cannot make out their fathers occupation or their place of residence. I think it is Kroomdraai but am not certain.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23578-37017-32?cc=1468076 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23578-37017-32?cc=1468076)

Also does anyone know anything about the Railway Mission Districts in the Diocese of Pretoria.

Kind regards,

Duncan
Title: Re: Decifering Records
Post by: Duncan Bennie on Wednesday 04 February 15 22:25 GMT (UK)
There is the earlier baptism of Godfrey's brother and sister that might help

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23578-42976-11?cc=1468076 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23578-42976-11?cc=1468076)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-23578-59177-14?cc=1468076 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-23578-59177-14?cc=1468076)
Title: Re: Decifering Records
Post by: Hackstaple on Wednesday 04 February 15 23:14 GMT (UK)
Hi all, you have all been of invaluable help in the last week or so, so I am going to call on your services once again, I am having great trouble deciphering a marriage record:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12115-149824-3?cc=2063749 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12115-149824-3?cc=2063749)

I cannot work out his occupation, both their places of residence and the initials of the du Preez witness.

The other problem record is Godfrey Charles and his brother's baptism they are the second and third one on the right hand page. I cannot make out their fathers occupation or their place of residence. I think it is Kroomdraai but am not certain.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23578-37017-32?cc=1468076 (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23578-37017-32?cc=1468076)

Also does anyone know anything about the Railway Mission Districts in the Diocese of Pretoria.

Kind regards,

Duncan

He is a ganger on the railways. Place of birth Martizburg [Pietermaritzburg]. She is born Burgess Hill, Cape.

The witness is EK du Preez
Title: Re: Decifering Records
Post by: Hackstaple on Wednesday 04 February 15 23:17 GMT (UK)
Their father is also a ganger. The place of birth is Kromdraai, now in KwaZulu Natal.
Cot 274 would be railway cottage 274.
Title: Re: Decifering Records
Post by: Duncan Bennie on Thursday 05 February 15 08:08 GMT (UK)
He is a ganger on the railways. Place of birth Martizburg [Pietermaritzburg]. She is born Burgess Hill, Cape.

The witness is EK du Preez

Thank you so much Hackstaple, does anyone know where Burgess Hill would be in the Cape?
The E. K. du Preez is the bride, the witness is in the bottom left corner.

Their father is also a ganger. The place of birth is Kromdraai, now in KwaZulu Natal.
Cot 274 would be railway cottage 274.

I am not sure about Kromdraai in Natal, would it have still fallen under the Diocese of Pretoria. His brother's marriage record specifically states him being born in the Transvaal, Natal had annexed those areas after the war so they would not be considered the Transvaal.
Title: Re: Decifering Records
Post by: Hackstaple on Thursday 05 February 15 09:53 GMT (UK)
There is a small village in the Transvaal also called Kromdraai. It is the site of the first Transvaal gold mine. It also holds a cave with some of the earliest hominid fossils. The mine closed in 1914.

That name? CJ Boor or CJ Boot. Neither of them common spellings. Could even be GJ.
Title: Re: Decifering Records
Post by: Duncan Bennie on Thursday 05 February 15 11:17 GMT (UK)
There is a small village in the Transvaal also called Kromdraai. It is the site of the first Transvaal gold mine. It also holds a cave with some of the earliest hominid fossils. The mine closed in 1914.

That name? CJ Boor or CJ Boot. Neither of them common spellings. Could even be GJ.

Mmm that Kromdraai seems to be plausible. Thank you  ;D

I am more interested in the initials of the du Preez under CJ Boor as that du Preez is highly likely a relative of the bride.
Title: Re: Decifering Records
Post by: Hackstaple on Thursday 05 February 15 12:10 GMT (UK)
The other witness MJ de Preez is most likely a sibling as the writing is so similar that they may have learned at the same school. Marthinus Johanus or Maria Johanna.
Title: Re: Decifering Records
Post by: Duncan Bennie on Thursday 05 February 15 12:35 GMT (UK)
Thank you ;D Now I just need to figure out where the hell Burgess Hill is in the Cape and I am sorted :) Thank you so much for you help Hackstaple, appreciate it.
Title: Re: Decifering Records
Post by: gingerbit on Thursday 05 February 15 13:34 GMT (UK)
Try a google search with 'burgers hill cape south africa '. It brought up a railway station in a very small place called Burger on the R365 in the middle of nowhere. There's also Burgersdorp in the Eastern Cape.
 
Title: Re: Decifering Records
Post by: Duncan Bennie on Thursday 05 February 15 15:32 GMT (UK)
Hi thanks for the reply. I doubt that is the case. I am sure Burgersdorp would have been mentioned if it was that and the railway place is too far to the west as I am sure she would be from the Eastern Cape area. It is more likely that the place is in Natal as it is her place of residence, not her place of birth so might be in the PMB district near Hanover?