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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: blackeyes on Saturday 07 February 15 21:48 GMT (UK)
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Hi, Trying to trace Ashcroft Place, nearest I've got so far, is that it was of Strabane old road. Sounds like the area was trashed for new builds in the 60s/70s like most of U.K. The reason I ask is that my eldest sister was born there when my Mother & Father resided in Derry for a year at the start of WW2.
(Dad was escorting convoys across the Atlantic).
It would be nice (1) To plot the site on a Google map with the co-ordinates, and (2) Obtain/purchase a photograph of the cottages (8-10? I believe from the census) somewhere if possible.Thank you.
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Hi,
There is an Ashcroft and an Ashcroft Close in Waterside, near Strabane Old Road and the Glenshane Road.
Regards
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Thanks kingskerswell for your reply. I'll try and dig deeper, I really require an old street map of the fifties, trouble is, everything single thing is copywrighted these days!
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This article confirms Ashcroft Place was indeed off Strabane Old Road and lists some residents there in 1957:
http://www.derryjournal.com/news/community/the-streets-of-derry-in-1957-1-6229228
The Roads abandonment order for Ashcroft Place was in 2005.
Have you emailed the library to ask if they can assist you?
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Thanks scotmum been there. Taken your advise and telephoned the library, spoke to a lovely lady called Doreen. Will have to wait and see!
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Hi,
Doreen got back to me with some details together with a old street plan. From what I can make out together with Google street view, Ashcroft place was at 13(approx.), old strabane road behind ANNES BAR and Herbert street was between NIPPY TAXI'S and KIERA'S CHIPPY at 21(approx.) ,old strabane road. This information is for anyone in the future who might be inquiring, this is my best guess so don't take this as verbatim. Still looking for a photograph which I know is a long shot for my sister and mum( she is 96 and still going strong)...........Cheers!
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hi there
your post caught my eye because of Ashcroft. i was reared at the Belt and Trench rd, Strabane old road junction, in a farmhouse known as Ashcroft. so i followed up your lead today when i was in Derry. I checked with locals and took some photos for you. which you probably already have from google anyway. you are right that Herbert St. was between the Chinese & Kiera's chippy. While Ashcroft place was along the side of Annies pub. Apparently Annies pub was moved. it used to be farther over to the left of the picture, where there is now a stone plaque. Because of events during the troubles it was tumbled. Annies now occupies the space at the other corner of the street that would previously have been Quiggs wee shop. It seems that Quiggs would have been the corner of Ashcroft Place. Hope this makes sense to you. I called in at Nippys taxi place and also asked further about possible pics of the area. He put in touch with another place that may be able to help, and apparently held a photo exhibit of the area last summer. with any luck it may prove fruitful for you. I will not post his details publicly. so will see if i can figure out how to private message you, or if you want to email me , you are welcome: See next post.
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Hi,
You can send a private message using the Personal Message (PM) system on this site. Just click on the green "Page" under their name and then post your message.
Regard
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Hi Val.(margymore),
Many thanks for your P.M. and will be looking into the leads I received from you. Alas no pictures, maybe the photographs might need to be re-sized when you scan them, a lot of forums will only except a certain size of picture (MB) for uploading. anyway thanks for taking the time to write and making Ashcroft place clearer for everyone, that's the beauty of the internet!
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Hi blackeyes.
I have sent those pics thru your private email. good luck Val
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Hi Val,
I really appreciate the photographs you have sent me! I will email them over to sis. love photo 3 of the actual street. Many thanks again.best wishes.......................Mark
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Hello, I know it is several months since your post re. Ashcroft Place but I have only just read it. My mother's family lived in 1 Ashcroft place from approximately 1920 to the late 1960's. All the family members, there were 8 children have very happy memories of living there. If you have any photos of Ashcroft I would be really keen to get copies.
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Hi Alwyn,
Margymore kindly sent over a few photographs, but only one was of the street. It sadly shows the half the houses ( 4 of 8 ) demolished. In fact I would like to know from the photograph what the house number was at the end of the terrace (1 or 8 ). Send me a p.m with your email and I'll post it over tomorrow ......Best
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Hi blackeyes.
I have sent those pics thru your private email. good luck Val
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Lived near Ashcroft Place in 1960s and 70's before it was redeveloped. There were 8 houses on a one sided terrace next to original Annies's Bar. I saw a list of residents of Ashcroft Place on the Derry Journal online a few weeks ago (August 2015) where it listed every street in Derry in 1955 and the main householder. That should help you.
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Hi, my mother And father Isobel and George Wolfenden, hosted a young English couple who where expecting a baby at the start of WW2, Mr and Mrs Levitt ?
Who where looking for accommodation which was in short supply. My father took them in. The baby was born in the front room. They stayed for approx 3 months ?
They eventually went back to England.
Regards
Hilda Browne (nee Wolfenden, now living in Australia)
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Lived near Ashcroft Place in 1960s and 70's before it was redeveloped. There were 8 houses on a one sided terrace next to original Annies's Bar. I saw a list of residents of Ashcroft Place on the Derry Journal online a few weeks ago (August 2015) where it listed every street in Derry in 1955 and the main householder. That should help you.
1957 list for Ashcroft Place (off Strabane Old Road)- shows 8 houses- George Wolfenden at #4
http://www.derryjournal.com/news/the-streets-of-derry-in-1957-1-6229228
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Hi, Scrolling through a list of old emails and one from Rootschat caught my eye, so I thought I'll take a look to see if there were any old posts?
Thanks to all the replies and especially Hilda Browne whose post was a gem. Telephoned mum (102 years old) today and she told me she was nearly two days in labour so she hadn't forgotten! Sis went over to N.I/Ireland for a holiday last year to see if she could find any more info. but no joy.
Truly amazing that people come to this site and by chance a post gets picked up.well done Rootschat and thanks again Hilda.
p.s. Formerly Blackeyes had to re-register.
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Hello Blackeyes,
I can help you connect with your old profile if I knew what the problem was, you don't say.
Regards
Sarah
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Hi,
No problem Sarah. Lost the previous password and the system kicked me back, so I just re-registered.
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There is a button to request a new password, did you try this out ?
Are you still using the email address on the other profile or did you want to use this new one ?
Regards
Sarah ?
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Hi Sarah,
Use the new email address, over the years I have had many (different providers etc,), sometimes wonder how many emails might have been waiting for me! ;) :(....................Best