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I am researching a Moss Family and John Moss (b. circa 1764) married a Martha and they had 3 children baptised in Barking - John (1795), Sarah (1797) & William (1799). Can anyone help me verify the marriage of John & Martha?
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Are John + Martha on the 1841 census?
Jackie
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Hi
It seems a bit long in the tooth, to have a first child at 31, in those times, I wonder if there were other children born, but in a different area.
Where do you get John's, year of birth from
Margp
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No trace of a marriage in Barking 1790=1795 but the children were baptised there
John born 06/04/1795 baptised 03/05/1795
Sarah born 14/01/1797 baptised 12/02/1797
William born 11/12/1798 baptised 06/01/1799
Are you basing the marriage place on the children's baptisms?
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Thanks for your replies - questions answered as follows -
1. Jolee - Yes, I am assuming marriage in Barking since children baptised there.
2. MargP - Familysearch Pedigree Resource file - https://familysearch.org/search/tree/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AJohn~%20%2Bsurname%3AMoss~%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3AMartha~%20%2Bdeath_place%3A%22East%20Ham%2C%20Essex%22~%20%2Bdeath_year%3A1835-1835~&collection_id=%282%203%29
3. Jackie - John & Martha not found on 1841 census
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May have found his baptism
February 17th 1765 St Mary's East Ham to John and Elizabeth Moss - John Moss
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Hi
There is this one
John Moss
Marriage 27 May 1789 Cirencester,Gloucester,England
Martha Allaway
Margp
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The marriage of John & Martha in Cirencester in 1789 produced two children - Mary Ann (1792) & William (1797), both baptised in Cirencester, Gloucestershire. It's a long long way from Barking - in fact I'm sure you're 'barking up the wrong marriage!'
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The familysearch tree which lists John Moss' death as 11 Dec 1835 is actually his burial date. He was 71 years old and of East Ham, as per the original entry on SEAX.
However, there is a baptism in East Ham 19 Nov 1797 William son of John and Mary Moss, and there is also the baptism of Randell Moss 9 Jun 1799 to the same couple, so its more likely to be that John rather than the one from Barking, although would need further research through the East Ham registers to confirm. They're low resolution and not clear when you enlarge them to read. :-X
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There is also the following baptism at Barking:
25 Oct 1801 (born 1 Oct 1801) Joseph son of John and Martha Moss.
I look forward to the end of 1806 but there were no other children baptised to them in Barking.
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Burials at Barking from 1795 to end 1812:
8 Jul 1798 Sarah Moss
16 Oct 1798 Sarah Moss
12 Aug 1799 Joseph Moss - drowned
20 Oct 1811 Joseph Moss 1 year old
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Post 1813 Barking Burials are quite large registers, I don't have time to go through them fully I'm afraid but it would probably be worth your while to take a short subscription to SEAX and have a look around Barking and surrounding parishes.
Of the burials for Barking listed on familysearch, the 1825 and 1828 burial are for very young children from Plaistow, the 1836 John Moss is 52 years from Barking Workhouse. The 17 Apr 1851 burial that familysearch quotes is actually John Moor NOT Moss.
I think I'm afraid you need to go through the parish registers fully rather than rely on transcripts and online indexes. The SEAX website is http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/.
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Hi
I have just returned from the Barking Archives where they have a book of all the gravestones in St Margaret's Churchyard, although there are burials in this church for the Moss family members I found there are no gravestones for them, either they have been destroyed or there has never been one.