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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: gnorman on Sunday 22 March 15 21:32 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone, on some of my older notes I found the following details for two married ancestors (I don't have copies of the documents)
James Winterbottom - (born 1784)
Baptism Record
Born 1784 (?), Baptised 31st May 1789 (aged 5 years), Baptised in Shaw
Ann Lees - (born 1791)
Baptism Record
Born 1791 in Saddleworth Yorshire,
They appear on the 1851 Census;
1851 Census
Address: Springhill, Waterhead, Oldham
Name: James Winterbottom Born: Saddleworth Relation: Head
Occupation: Waste Dealer Age: 67 years
Name: Ann Winterbottom Born: Saddleworth Relation: Wife
Occupation: NOT GIVEN Age: 60 years
Name: Edward Lees Born: Saddleworth Relation: Brother in law
Occupation: Cotton Warehouse man Age: 64 years
I have details of their children but am looking for any possible help to find their marriage or death records. I dont believe I have posted about this before and hope to make some headway on finding their fate.
Thanks, Luke
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Re: deaths - have you looked on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or www.freebmd.org.uk
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Hi Ann Winterbottom aged 70 Widow b Saddleworth is residing at Auckland Road, Oldham in 1861
Census ref RG09/3020/84/5
Keyboard86
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Hi Ann Winterbottom aged 70 Widow b Saddleworth is residing at Auckland Road, Oldham in 1861
Census ref RG09/3020/84/5
Keyboard86
Just to say it is Austerlands Road :)
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;D Bad original in 1861!
1871 census
Ann Winterbottom 81
Mary Lees 27 Niece
Residing at Huddersfield Road, Oldham
Census ref RG10/4102/132/9
Keyboard86
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20 May 1842 St James Oldham
John Winterbottom Widower Waste Dealer, res Knowles Lane, father John a Clothier
Anne Lees spinster res, Springhill, father William cotton spinner.
Married by Licence both signed their name.
Witnesses.Sarah Lees, John Wood [church official] Edward Lees.
Another Lees witness it's either Edm or Edw not sure which ???
Edit- it's James on the marriage cert not John, Sorry my mistake.
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Possible death
James WINTERBOTTOM in 1856 aged 73 Oldham Above Town
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You could try this website for the burials :)
http://apps1.oldham.gov.uk/bacasweb/gensearch.aspx
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Thanks everyone, this is great stuff. I think Ann may have died in the first quarter of 1875 aged 85 yrs. The site you suggested rolnora doesn't have the burial listed so perhaps she's buried in a church yard? Have I got that right?
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Probate calendar
14 April 1875 re Ann Winterbottom died 19 March 1875, Waterhead, Oldham
Will proved by James Newton and John Edward Newton, the Great Nephew both of Greenacres Lodge and Edward Howard Moss of Ravenscroft Hall, Middlewich, Great Nephew, the Executors.
Effects under £1000.
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Oldham Council cemeteries opened at
Chadderton 1857
Lees 1879
Hollinwood 1889
Greenacres 1857
Crompton 1891
Failsworth 1887
Royton 1879
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Probate calendar
14 April 1875 re Ann Winterbottom died 19 March 1875, Waterhead, Oldham
Will proved by James Newton and John Edward Newton, the Great Nephew both of Greenacres Lodge and Edward Howard Moss of Ravenscroft Hall, Middlewich, Great Nephew, the Executors.
Effects under £1000.
John Edward Newton b 1848 - mother, Lees. Lancashire BMD
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Holy Trinity, Waterhead is the local church.
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A bit of extra information for you Luke
Marriage: 7 Feb 1877 St Wilfrid, Farnworth-near-Prescot, Lancashire, England
John Edward Newton - 28, Cotton Spinner, Bachelor, Greenacres Lodge Oldham
Mary McClellan - 21, Spinster, Highfield Widnes
Groom's Father: James Newton, Cotton Spinner
Bride's Father: John McClellan, Manufacturer
Witness: John McClellan; Ann Eliza McClellan; James Newton
Married by Licence by: W Hampton Chambers
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Hi again, I hope you do not mind me adding this possible family for the Mary Lees aged 27 Saddleworth shown with Ann Winterbottom as a Niece in 1871:-
1851 census
Nancy Lees 43 Widow
John Winterbottom 20 Son
Jane Lees 16
Joel Lees 13
MARY 7
Lucy 1 month
Residing at Culvert Castle, Saddleworth
All born Saddleworth
Census ref HO107/2290/151/5
1841 census
William Lees 40
Nancy 30
Jane 7
Joel 2
Ashton Winterbottom 13
John Winterbottom 11
Residing at Austerlands, Rochdale
Census ref HO107/1279/ 8/17 / 28
Keyboard86
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In case this one is related or even the one in 1841
Burial: 30 Jun 1843 St John the Baptist, Hey, Lancashire, England
Ashton Winterbottom -
Age: 19y.
Abode: Street, Oldham
Buried by: G. D. Grundy
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In case this one is related or even the one in 1841
Burial: 30 Jun 1843 St John the Baptist, Hey, Lancashire, England
Ashton Winterbottom -
Age: 19y.
Abode: Street, Oldham
Buried by: G. D. Grundy
Hi the Ashton Winterbottom b c 1828 Saddleworth is alive and well in 1851 onwards in 1851 married to a Mary 21 with young son John aged 2
Census ref HO107/2290/159/20
Keyboard86
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Hi Luke,
I have noticed that there is a photograph album up for sale on Ebay right now (4 days to go) which contains photos of a James Newton, Greenacres, a Charles Winterbottom & wife, a Mrs Lees and others. Could be related to your ancestors? See Ebay: CDV & Photographs Album Many Named Including WWI India Photos. I have no interest in this sale btw - I just googled some of the names out of curiosity and your post and associated replies came up.
Cheers, Simon
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This might be of interest to you
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/17d4ce61-69d9-42c9-b565-df24a0395179
http://www.pixnet.co.uk/Oldham-hrg/gazetteers/baines/448.html
http://www.pixnet.co.uk/
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There is a James & Ann Winterbottom of Waterhead buried at Greenacres Congregational Church.
13 Sept 1856 Burial date
James Winterbottom died 8 Sept in his 74th year of Springhill.
Greenacres Congregational Church Register 1854/1908 image 13
24 March 1875 Burial date
Ann widow of James Winterbottom, died 19th March 1875 age 85 years of Springhill Waterhead.
Greenacres Congregational Church Register 1854/1908 image 108.
Hope this helps.