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Title: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: Dannemois on Tuesday 02 June 15 13:41 BST (UK)
Hello
Can someone please do a look-up on the Aberdare 1881 census for the residents at Aberaman House.  I have a copy of the page (RG 11/5324) with the details for Charles Taylor, 22, undergardener, born Wareham, Dorsetshire and the other undergardeners etc, but unfortunately I forgot to collect the previous page to show who was in residence as Head of the household. 

I would appreciate details. Thanks

Regards 
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: Deirdre784 on Tuesday 02 June 15 14:24 BST (UK)
Hi Roy,

The previous page is for houses in Forge Row. The only entries for Aberaman House are the ones above Charles Taylor on the same page - Elizabeth Jenkins and Mary Elizabeth James, both servants.

Deirdre
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: Deirdre784 on Tuesday 02 June 15 14:34 BST (UK)
Roy, elsewehere on the census RG11 / 5324 there are a number of houses called Aberaman Houses (numbers 1-13) but I can't find any other entry for Aberaman House.

Deirdre
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: rosie17 on Tuesday 02 June 15 14:34 BST (UK)
Is this what you are looking for Aberman House
Annie Jenkins head 10 Forge Row head widowed servant b1822 Mynddislwyn Monmouth
Elizabeth Jenkins dressmaker b same place
1848 daughter
Joseph Jenkins son b 1851 Aberdare weigher coal miner
William B Jenkins son b 1866 Henliss colliery Engine man driver
Elizabeth Jenkins servant widowed b Pembridge Hereford
Margaret James 1855 Breconshire servant
Gardiner Cottage
Charles Taylor Under Gardiner domestic
Fred Summers 1865 Oxfordshire same occupation
George Hoddinott b 1850 Bath Under Gardiner coachman
Fred Lewis 1866 Newcastle     Under Gardiner domestic
Rosie
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: Dannemois on Tuesday 02 June 15 15:10 BST (UK)
Hello Deidre and Rosie
I was hoping to find George Elliot, colliery owner in residence.  Fred, one of the undergardeners is the son of George's niece whom I have located on the 1881 with all her children except for young Fred.  Aberaman House appears to be a big property and again I was hoping to find the owner at home.

Regards, Roy
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 02 June 15 15:22 BST (UK)
Hi Roy, was John George Elliot 24 occ Colliery Manager his son, b Houghton le Spring, Durham if so he is.in Aberdare in 1881?
Census ref RG11/5325/77/1
Keyboard
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: Dannemois on Tuesday 02 June 15 15:47 BST (UK)
Hi Keyboard
Yes he was a son of George Elliot, was he at Aberaman House?
Roy
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: Deirdre784 on Tuesday 02 June 15 16:05 BST (UK)
Hi Roy, no he was a boarder at Aberffrwd Villa, Aberdare.
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: Deirdre784 on Tuesday 02 June 15 16:08 BST (UK)
Roy, do you have any details on George, age, where born etc. Quite a few George Elliot's in 1881 but none described as colliery owner.
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: Dannemois on Wednesday 03 June 15 14:02 BST (UK)
Deidre

George Elliot born 18 March 1814, died 23 December 1893

 In 1882 he purchased land in Aberamman as a gift in memory of his wife and daughter Elizabeth. Work commenced on the construction of St Margaret’s Church and it was completed in 1883.  Having said that with his political interests and his global businesses ther are reports of him travelling a lot.  He was also the owner of more than one family home so it is likely he only stayed at Aberaman House when in Wales.     

Roy
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: Deirdre784 on Thursday 04 June 15 03:11 BST (UK)
Hi Roy, sorry but I can't find him on the 1881 census anywhere  :(
Deirdre
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 04 June 15 11:20 BST (UK)
Deidre

George Elliot born 18 March 1814, died 23 December 1893

 In 1882 he purchased land in Aberamman as a gift in memory of his wife and daughter Elizabeth. Work commenced on the construction of St Margaret’s Church and it was completed in 1883.  Having said that with his political interests and his global businesses ther are reports of him travelling a lot.  He was also the owner of more than one family home so it is likely he only stayed at Aberaman House when in Wales.     

Roy

Is this the same person Sir George Elliot died 23/12/1893 17, Portland Place other addresses 16.Great George Street Middlesex and Friars Newport

Wife died 14/12/1880 at 1,Park Street Park Lane Middlesex both on the probate record ?
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: Dannemois on Thursday 04 June 15 17:59 BST (UK)
Hi Rosie
Yes, that's the man, he really did get about; I read yesterday apart from the coal mines in Aberdare and the Rhymney Valley he also had mines in Canada.  His business was truly global so it is no wonder he is hard to find in 1881, he could have been out of the country.
Title: Re: Look-up please Aberdare 1881-Charles Taylor, 22 undergardener born Wareham
Post by: rosie17 on Thursday 04 June 15 19:02 BST (UK)
Hi Roy your right George is hard to find ... 1882 he was living 6.Castletown Road South Kensington S W