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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: Youngy1981 on Tuesday 21 July 15 20:07 BST (UK)
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Hi all was wondering if you could help me i'm looking into my 2x great nan's family her maiden name was WALKER i know she was born in Rostrevor Northern Ireland like my grandad was. I know her dad was Scottish but i don't know where her mother was born. She had siblings and i know when 3 died but there's one i don't have any dates for. Please note I've received an old copy of the family tree from a cousin and it's hard to read but can just see the dates. i shall list the names here
Father : George Walker b 1814 Perthshire Scotland
Mother: Elizabeth Laidlaw b 1818 ?
Children
Ellen - my great Nan x2 b 1840 Rostrevor died 1927 Cockermouth - Cumbria
Mary b 1845 died 1918 I know Mary married and have her, husband and children unknown on death
George b ???? died 1916 warrenpoint County Down N.Ireland
Andrew b???? died abt 1900
Thomas b???? died ????
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Probate of the Will of Andrew Walker late of Rostrevor County Down Tramway Manager who died 15 June 1900 at Warrenpoint said County granted at Belfast to George Walker Tramway Manager and John M'Clelland Coach Builder. Effects £385 19s. 3d. Will dated 6 June 1900 mentions sister Ellen, sister Mary, brother George, brother-in-law John McClelland, 9 children of John & Mary McClelland, nephew John Young.
http://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx
Administration of the Estate of John Thomas McClelland late of Warrenpoint County Down Coach Builder who died 17 December 1907 granted at Belfast to Mary McClelland the Widow. Effects £430 10s. 0d.
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thank you aghadowey i shall look into this i'm so pleased i've asked as i knew of nothing other than Ellen
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George Walker in 1901 with wife Jane-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Killowen/Ballinadoalty/1236748
John & Mary McClelland-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Warrenpoint/Newry_Street/1251186
More is coming as fast as I can type ;)
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thank you so much for all the help i really appreciate it
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John Thomas McClelland married Mary Walker
marriage (1866): https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGH2-371
son James Thomas (1867) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR9P-FXT
son George Walker (1869) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FP6C-X6D
son John (1870) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPRB-FQP
son Hugh (1872) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGH7-F6D
son Alfred (1877) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPQZ-1HZ
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thanks for all the info do you know if there are any information on the other siblings of Ellen and her parents . So excited I've told my dad and he's looking forward to reading all you have told me and i can put it into my tree :)
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I'm still typing- there's lots more to come yet ;D
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Blimey serioulsy there is more thats fantastic i owe you such alot for helping me find this part of my family tree. So excited to see if it's true what my uncle told me
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Here's a start-
George Walker (1814 Scotland) m. Elizabeth Laidlaw (c1818)
1. Mary Walker (1845-1918) m.(1866) John Thomas McClelland
2. George Walker (c1857-1916) m.(10 Dec.1895) Jane Mathews (c1862)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Killowen/Ballinadoalty/1236748
3. Andrew Walker (d.15 June 1900)
Probate of the Will of Andrew Walker late of Rostrevor County Down Tramway Manager who died 15 June 1900 at Warrenpoint said County granted at Belfast to George Walker Tramway Manager and John M'Clelland Coach Builder. Effects £385 19s. 3d. Will dated 6 June 1900 mentions sister Ellen, sister Mary, brother George, brother-in-law John McClelland, 9 children of John & Mary McClelland, nephew John Young.
4. Ellen Walker (1840)
?5. Thomas Walker
Mary Walker (1845-1918) m.(1866) John Thomas McClelland (c1841 New York-1907), coach builder
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Warrenpoint/Newry_Street/1251186
Administration of the Estate of John Thomas McClelland late of Warrenpoint County Down Coach Builder who died 17 December 1907 granted at Belfast to Mary McClelland the Widow. Effects £430 10s. 0d.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Warrenpoint/Newry_Street/259721
1. James Thomas (13 Apr.1867)
2. George Walker (16 Apr.1869)
3. John (1 Dec.1870-aft.1901), coach painter
4. Hugh (27 Oct.1872-aft.1901), coach builder
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Court_Ward/Carlisle_Street/964029
5. William (18 Dec.1874)
6. Alfred (25 May 1877), coach painter, m.(22 Dec.1919) Elizabeth Atcheson
McClelland Alfred of Newry Street Warrenpoint county Down garage proprietor died 20 February 1954 Probate Belfast 5 November to William Bowsie mechanic and George V. Scarborough auctioneer. Effects £2389 15s. 3d.
7. Joseph (23 Feb.1879-aft.1911), coach bodymaker
8. Jane (5 Nov.1881)
9. Mary (18 Nov.1882) m.(1906) Samuel Taylor- see reply #11
10. Annie Ada (9 Apr.1885) m.(2 Apr.1920) ___ Russell
11. Elizabeth (18 Jan.1887-aft.1901)
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Woah this is so amazing to find all this information out. your a star thank you it's so much more than what i could ever imagine.
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Mary McClelland (18 Nov.1882-13 July 1968) m.(25 July 1906) Samuel Taylor (1878-30 Dec.1951, teacher
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Warrenpoint_Rural/Clontafleece/259376
Taylor Samuel of 47 Marina Park Castlereagh Belfast retired school teacher died 30 December 1951 Administration Belfast 4 February to Mary Taylor the widow. Effects £1143 9s. 6d.
Dundonald Cemetery (D6 242): Samuel Taylor, age 73, 47 Marina Park, died 30 Dec.1951, buried 1 Jan.1952. Mary Taylor, age 85, Maretta Banbridge Rd. Hillsborough, died 13 July 1968, buried 16 July 1968
http://www.geni.com/people/Samuel-Taylor/6000000025125369709
1. William Alfred Leslie (18 June 1907-1986)
2. Mary Walker “Maisie” (15 June 1908-1997)
3. Samuel Ewart (4 Nov.1909-2000)
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Belfast/issue/487/page/1245/data.pdf
4. Ernest (11 Feb.1911-1988)
5. Percy (1913-1992)
6. Elizabeth (1916-2012)
7. Robert (1918-2007)
Some of these details are from an online tree (see link above) and would need to be verified but it would be worth contacting the tree owner if you wish to follow up on this branch of the family
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Walker mention on this site
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies
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Wow oh my gosh so much info to take in well all i can say is thanks very much and thank you for taking up the time to help me. It's very kind of you. All this is new to me
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Note: You mentioned George Walker died 1918 but I can't find an Irish death to support this. Closest death- George Walker c1851-1 May 1919 Keady dist., Armagh
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRLQ-TPT
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Yes i did mention George died in 1918 as i recieved a old copy of the family tree yesterday and that is the date i could make out. it said Warrenpoint on the tree possibly he moved to Armagh and warrenpoint is where he was born?
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so would i be right in assuming that Mary married a 2nd time?
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The death for George Walker in 1919 is Keady sub-district which is outside Armagh a good bit. I'm inlcined to think that it isn't the correct George Walker.
so would i be right in assuming that Mary married a 2nd time?
Mary Walker married John Thomas McClelland. Their daughter Mary McClelland (born 1884) married Samuel Taylor.
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oh please forgive the last message about Mary McClelland i re-read that message again and understood it better, However George Walker i'm not sure about so maybe could be wrong dates.