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Title: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: avidt on Thursday 08 October 15 19:25 BST (UK)
Hi

I am trying to find the parents of this man according to the national Archives online he was born 6th April 1898, but there does not seem to be an entry on the Free BMD site for him, Anybody have access to the Manuden parish records.

In the 1911 Census he is living in Islington aged 12 and he married a Rosie Barker in 1924 in Waltham Abbey.

Many thanks

David ;)
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: groom on Thursday 08 October 15 19:32 BST (UK)
This him  in 1901?

RG13; Piece: 1287; Folio: 127; Page: 11
Manuden, Essex

Charles Gayler   47    Blacksmith Journeyman      Castle Bury Thundridge, Hertfordshire
Emily Gayler   44                                            Ottershaw, Surrey
Emily Gayler   18   Mica? worker                       Ware, Hertfordshire
Cecila Gayler   15                                             Braughing, Hertfordshire
Rose Gayler   9                                               Chesterford Gt, Essex
John Gayler   2                                               Manuden, Essex
Title: Re: Joyhn Exdward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: groom on Thursday 08 October 15 19:35 BST (UK)
Possible marriage of his parents


Charles George Gaylor
Emily Matthews

Ware Herts  Dec quarter 1875
Volume:   3a
Page:   375
 
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: cath151 on Thursday 08 October 15 19:37 BST (UK)
On freebmd

AMJ 1898
John Edward Gayler  B. Stortford  3a 542
Cathy :)
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 08 October 15 19:38 BST (UK)
From freebmd

Births Jun 1898

Gayler John Edward B. Stortford 3a   542

Manuden is in the Bishops Stortford district, click on the district name in freebmd for more information
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: avidt on Thursday 08 October 15 19:54 BST (UK)
Hi All

Many thanks for all your help, I have found an entry on Free bmd for Charles George Gaylor born 1853 Ware and an entry for what might be his father also Charles marrying in the Ware RD in 1850.

Dues anyone have access to the 1851 Census so that I can find out the name of Charles wife, his age and where he was born.

Many thanks

David :D
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: suffolk*sue on Thursday 08 October 15 19:54 BST (UK)
Manuden

John Edward Gayler
born 6th April 1898
baptised September 11th 1898
son of Charles George and Emily
father a blacksmith
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: avidt on Thursday 08 October 15 19:58 BST (UK)
Hi Suffolk Sue

Thanks form that information. As you can see from the above request I am now looking for the parents of Charles George who was born in the WareRD in 1853 and there is a wedding of another Charles in Ware in 1850

Kind Regards

David :D
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: groom on Thursday 08 October 15 20:06 BST (UK)
1861
RG 9; Piece: 810; Folio: 72; Page: 26
Braughing

Charles Gaylor   32  Smith                              Manuden, Essex
Henrietta Gaylor   37                                       Great Munden, Hertfordshire
Mary Gaylor   9                                         Little Munden, Hertfordshire
Charles Gaylor   7                                         Thundridge, Hertfordshire
Walter Gaylor   3                                         Brunglim, Hertfordshire
Harriet Hilton   23  sister                              Great Munden, Hertfordshire
William Wren   18  apprentice                       Thundridge, Hertfordshire
Silicia Carter   15  servant                            Offley, Hertfordshire
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: groom on Thursday 08 October 15 20:10 BST (UK)
Marriage


Marriages Dec 1849   

Gaylor    Charles        
Hilton    Henrietta Elizabeth       
 Ware    6   1133
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: avidt on Thursday 08 October 15 20:14 BST (UK)
Hi Groom

Many thanks for that information, it was interesting to see that Charles was born in Manuden in 1819, and the only one of his grandchildren John Edward, the line I am researching was also born in Manuden in 1898.

I now need to find someone with access to the Manuden PR's tom find his baptism c1819 and the names of his parents.

Kind Regar4ds

David :D
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: groom on Thursday 08 October 15 20:17 BST (UK)
Henrietta's baptism and parents

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NRWP-R4T
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: avidt on Thursday 08 October 15 20:26 BST (UK)
Many thanks Groom are the Manuden Records available from the same source.

God Bless

David :D
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: groom on Thursday 08 October 15 21:31 BST (UK)
I'm not sure, I couldn't find Charles on there. Have a look, you might have more luck.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01g9l/
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: amondg on Friday 09 October 15 06:43 BST (UK)
There is a Charles Gayler baptized 13 July 1829 son of William and Mary Gayler, Labourer at Manuden.
If he is 32 in 1861 makes his birth year 1829.
other entries for children of William and Mary are: Harvey George bap 13 July 1823 born 12 May 1823
Emily bap 20 November 1825 born 13 September 1825, father listed as a Blacksmith.
1841 census of Braughin Herts
William Gayler 45 Blacksmith
Mary 40
Emily 15
George 15
Charles 12
None were born in Herts.
1851 census Great Munden Herts
William 54 born Newport Essex, Blacksmith
Mary 52 wife, born Manuden Essex
George 27, son Blacksmith born Manuden Essex (bap Harvey George)
Eliza 24 Dau in law born Great Munden Herts
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: amondg on Friday 09 October 15 07:19 BST (UK)
Manuden Parish Records
William Gayler of Newport in Essex married Mary Harvey 3 December 1822 by banns, both were single.
Witnesses George Alles and William Dellow.
All signed except William who made his mark.
#44 in register. Ref: Essex Record Office D/P 272/1/9
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: avidt on Friday 09 October 15 08:17 BST (UK)
Hi Amondg

Thanks so very much for that information, the name variation seems to happen quite a bit during the 19thc. There seems to have been at least 3 generations of Blacksmiths in the family.

I now need to find the baptism and parents of William born c1797 in Newport.Essex

God Bless

David :D
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: amondg on Saturday 10 October 15 06:10 BST (UK)
Parish Records are on line from the Essex Record Office for a fee.
1 day 10 pounds, 1 week 20, 1 month 30, 6 months 60, 1 year 85.
There is also a wealth of other information so your tree will have more than born, married, occupation, had children, died.   
Title: Re: John Edward Gaylor born Manuden Stanstead April 1898
Post by: avidt on Saturday 10 October 15 08:06 BST (UK)
Hi Amondg

Thanks for that information, I have found that the Newport records are online and I have got back to a marriage in 1766. :D