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Title: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Friday 16 October 15 19:31 BST (UK)
The cemetery was opened for burials in 1876.
Just send me a P.M. with your email address and I'll send the required picture.

Aitken, Paterson & (Anderson).
Allan & Clelland.
Allan, Wilson & Findlay.
Alston [Alison Aitcheson died 1882]
Ambrose & Lloyd.
Baillie & Collins. (next to Collins & Thomson)
Baillie, Wilson, Millar, Muir & Henry.
Barr [William & Barbara].
Baxter & McPherson.
Baxter, Fleming, Gibb & Anderson.
Black, Smith, Phillips & Davies.
Blevins & Cardwell.
Blyth [Nettie died 1918].
Bonar [James died 1900].
Brant & Hanson.
Brighton [William & Sibila] & White & Hume.
Brown [Alexander & Mary, daughter Mary]
Brown, Harvie, Buchannan & (Balm...e).
Buchanan, Chapman & Forsyth.
Cameron & McDonald.
Cameron, Wardrop & Semple.
Campbell [Robert & Maggie with infant son Smith].
Canning & Edgar.
Clapperton [Archibald & Annie].
Clark & Inglis.
Clark, Sneddon & Stewart.
Cocker & Thomson.
Collins & Thomson.
Colville & Brown.
Cook, Davidson & Berry.
Corbett & McCrae.
Corfield & Underwood.
Cowie, Trueman & McLean.
Craig & Colvin.
Crawford, Swan & Brown.
Crombie & McKinlay.
Cullen, Scott & Simpson.
Cunningham [Andrew & Barbara].
Currie & Trevors.
Cuthbertson & Youngson.
Davidson [Robert & Agnes] & Hamilton.
Davidson, Thomson & Tennant.
Dillon & Walker.
Donnelly [Daniel & Mary]
Drinnen & Giffen.
Dur(ham), Ogilvie & Adam.
Easton [Robert died Dalzell Steel works 189(4)].
Ferguson & Grierson.
Ferguson, Pollock, Pritchard, McKerrow, Wilson & McAnnand.
Freckleton, Graham & Armour.
Fullarton & Smith.
Gilmour, Pickard, Campbell, Jack & McKillop.
Gow & Macdonald.
Gray, Paterson & Anderson.
Haddow, Paterson & Farqharson.
Haddow, Rae & Bell.
Hall [Herbert & Amelia] & Dunlop.
Hamilton & Goodall.
Hamilton & McDermid.
Hamilton, Branks & Hilton.
Hamilton, Brown & Russell.
Hamilton, Young, Henry & Chambers.
Hill & Watt.
Hilton & Anderson.
Hislop [John & Isabella] & Baillie.
Hodge & McLean.
Hope & More.
Ingram [Martha] & (Littlejohn?) Robert.
Irvine, Inglis & Roberts.
Jardine, Little & Tait.
Jesson & Broadstock.
Kelsey & McDonald.
Lang, Spalding, Steel & Tennant.
Langlands, Hamilton & Craig.
Lauder [Williamina died 24 Sept 1904]
Lawson & Gardner.
Liddell, Walker & Waddell.
Lindsay & Campbell.
Littlejohn, Hodge & Wilson.
Lochhead & Laird.
Lockhart [Elizabeth M.]
Mack, Stewart & Gilles.
Mackay [Jane died 1903 79yrs]
Mackie & Stevenson.
Macqueen, Maginnes & Russell. (next to Russell, Draffan, Macqueen & McBride).
Maddock & Woodman.
Martin [James, chemist died 1894].
Maxwell [James & Isabella] & (Mill or Hill?)
Mc(N)ealy, Mc( K or L)ean, & Hamilton.
McDonald & Thomson.
McDonald [Alexander & Josephine] & Murchison.
McDougall & Young.
McGreery & Geekie.
McGregor & McFee.
McIntyre [Agnes died Isle of Bute 1873]
McKay, Hall & Gibb.
McKelvie & Frederick.
McLean, Thomson, Taylor, Grieve & Marr.
McLuckie (Sneddon), Lindsay & Shields.
McLure, Edgar & Rennie.
McMurdo [Catherine, Order of the Eastern Star, died 1917] (adjacent to William, Freemason)
McMurdo [William, Freemason died 1909]
McNay & Burgess.
McNeil & Timmins.
McPherson, Cram, McNab & Johnston.
McRoberts & Jacquest.
McWhirter & Tombs.
Meek & Warnock.
Melrose & Dickson.
Millar & Love.
Millar, Allison, Wylie & Beverage.
Miller & Addie.
Miller [James Ormond 1859 – 1903].
Morris, Ward & Black.
Morrison, Napier & Milne.
Mowat & Smith.
Muir & Dobbie.
Muirden, Struthers & Cassels.
Mulrine & Welsh.
Munro, Chalmers & Sharp.
Murray & Henderson.
Murray & Taylor.
Murray [Peter & Rebecca], Minto & King.
Nichols & Gavins.
Nisbet & Ferguson.
Nixon, Brayton & Dunlop.
Orr & Collins. [Adjacent to Orr, Buchannan & McFarlane]
Orr, Buchanan & McFarlane.
Paisley [James & Margaret].
Paterson & Osborne.
Paterson, Dykes & Cowie.
Paterson, Hislop & Watt.
Paul & Condie.
Pollock & Wilson.
Pollock [Alexander died 1935].
Pugh, Russell, Stevenson & Roger.
Reid & (Baillie?).
Reid & Crawford.
Richmond & Hamilton.
Ritchie & Macdonald.
Robb & McLeod.
Robertson & Scott.
Rodger & Galloway.
Russell, (Draffan) Macqueen & McBride. (next to Macqueen, Maginnes & Russell).
Russell, Napier & Meikle.
Russell, Steven & Henderson.
Sharp, Paul & Millar.
Shearer, Baillie & Forsyth.
Shedden & (Thomson?).
Smellie, Cook & (Gray?).
Smith & Goodman.
Smith & Moffat.
Smith [Edward & Catherine].
Smith, Weir, White, Keir & Johnston.
Sneddon & Love.
Sommerville, Ballantyne & Rae.
Stewart [Duncan & Janet of Strathaven].
Stirret & Milligan.
Straiton & Hamilton.
Swift & Norton.
Taylor & Danks.
Taylor [William & Sarah]
Taylor, Gilchrist & McLeod.
Tennant & Findlay.
Tennant & Telford.
Thomson & Barton.
Thomson & Christie.
Thomson & Samuel.
Tonks & Yeardley.
Twaddle, Grant & Lees.
Wales & McAdam.
Walker, King & Boyes.
Wardrope [George & Mary] & Corbett & (Rod)gerson.
Webster, Eddie, Mitchell & Finlay.
Weir & Jamieson.
Weir & Wotherspoon.
Weir, Caldwell & Cooper.
Weir, Young & Logan.
White, BarKlay, Neilson & Deane.
Williams & Springthorpe.
Williams [Thomas Edward & Catherine].
Williams, Stanley & Nichols.
Williamson & Crawford.
Young & Aitken.
Young & Gardiner.
Young & Russell.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Friday 16 October 15 20:12 BST (UK)
A few views of Globe.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: mhomac on Wednesday 21 October 15 16:06 BST (UK)
Hi Lodger,
Could you send pics of the McNay and Burgess gravestones, please. I think they may be linked to my family tree.
Grateful for all your work on this website. Much appreciated.
Morag.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 21 October 15 19:10 BST (UK)
Hi Morag, I have just arrived in Paris and won't be back home until 28th, can you wait until then?

Lodger
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: mhomac on Wednesday 21 October 15 19:36 BST (UK)
Not a problem. They have waited long enough for me to find them!!
Enjoy Paris.. a wonderful city!
Morag.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Thursday 29 October 15 13:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Morag, here is your photograph. The stone, although it has been either pushed over or laid flat for safety reasons, is in quite good condition, apart from some missing letters.

Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: mhomac on Thursday 29 October 15 17:14 GMT (UK)
Lodger, thanks so very much for this picture. These McNays are on our family tree and I knew about John who died in the war but not about the other children! Now I can add more details to the tree.
Do appreciate your efforts and hope you had a good trip.
Again, my thanks.
Morag
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: DeBarre on Monday 09 November 15 02:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Lodger, I noticed in your listing you have a Freckleton in your Globe listing, do you have a picture of this stone? I was aware there was a plot but not sure where in Motherwell The Globe is!
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Monday 09 November 15 09:04 GMT (UK)
Hi DeBarre,

Here's the Freckleton picture, John senior with both his wives. The Globe isn't easy to find unless you know the area. It's along the river Calder after Motherwell Mill, at the bottom of Milton St and then a 15 minute walk towards the river.
If you can't read this inscription let me know.

Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: DeBarre on Saturday 05 December 15 19:16 GMT (UK)
Thanks, btw did you receive my PM??
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Elmca on Monday 18 April 16 22:46 BST (UK)
The cemetery was opened for burials in 1876.
Just send me a P.M. with your email address and I'll send the required picture.

Aitken, Paterson & (Anderson).
Allan & Clelland.
Allan, Wilson & Findlay.
Alston [Alison Aitcheson died 1882]
Ambrose & Lloyd.
Baillie & Collins. (next to Collins & Thomson)
Baillie, Wilson, Millar, Muir & Henry.
Barr [William & Barbara].
Baxter & McPherson.
Baxter, Fleming, Gibb & Anderson.
Black, Smith, Phillips & Davies.
Blevins & Cardwell.
Blyth [Nettie died 1918].
Bonar [James died 1900].
Brant & Hanson.
Brighton [William & Sibila] & White & Hume.
Brown [Alexander & Mary, daughter Mary]
Brown, Harvie, Buchannan & (Balm...e).
Buchanan, Chapman & Forsyth.
Cameron & McDonald.
Cameron, Wardrop & Semple.
Campbell [Robert & Maggie with infant son Smith].
Canning & Edgar.
Clapperton [Archibald & Annie].
Clark & Inglis.
Clark, Sneddon & Stewart.
Cocker & Thomson.
Collins & Thomson.
Colville & Brown.
Cook, Davidson & Berry.
Corbett & McCrae.
Corfield & Underwood.
Cowie, Trueman & McLean.
Craig & Colvin.
Crawford, Swan & Brown.
Crombie & McKinlay.
Cullen, Scott & Simpson.
Cunningham [Andrew & Barbara].
Currie & Trevors.
Cuthbertson & Youngson.
Davidson [Robert & Agnes] & Hamilton.
Davidson, Thomson & Tennant.
Dillon & Walker.
Donnelly [Daniel & Mary]
Drinnen & Giffen.
Dur(ham), Ogilvie & Adam.
Easton [Robert died Dalzell Steel works 189(4)].
Ferguson & Grierson.
Ferguson, Pollock, Pritchard, McKerrow, Wilson & McAnnand.
Freckleton, Graham & Armour.
Fullarton & Smith.
Gilmour, Pickard, Campbell, Jack & McKillop.
Gow & Macdonald.
Gray, Paterson & Anderson.
Haddow, Paterson & Farqharson.
Haddow, Rae & Bell.
Hall [Herbert & Amelia] & Dunlop.
Hamilton & Goodall.
Hamilton & McDermid.
Hamilton, Branks & Hilton.
Hamilton, Brown & Russell.
Hamilton, Young, Henry & Chambers.
Hill & Watt.
Hilton & Anderson.
Hislop [John & Isabella] & Baillie.
Hodge & McLean.
Hope & More.
Ingram [Martha] & (Littlejohn?) Robert.
Irvine, Inglis & Roberts.
Jardine, Little & Tait.
Jesson & Broadstock.
Kelsey & McDonald.
Lang, Spalding, Steel & Tennant.
Langlands, Hamilton & Craig.
Lauder [Williamina died 24 Sept 1904]
Lawson & Gardner.
Liddell, Walker & Waddell.
Lindsay & Campbell.
Littlejohn, Hodge & Wilson.
Lochhead & Laird.
Lockhart [Elizabeth M.]
Mack, Stewart & Gilles.
Mackay [Jane died 1903 79yrs]
Mackie & Stevenson.
Macqueen, Maginnes & Russell. (next to Russell, Draffan, Macqueen & McBride).
Maddock & Woodman.
Martin [James, chemist died 1894].
Maxwell [James & Isabella] & (Mill or Hill?)
Mc(N)ealy, Mc( K or L)ean, & Hamilton.
McDonald & Thomson.
McDonald [Alexander & Josephine] & Murchison.
McDougall & Young.
McGreery & Geekie.
McGregor & McFee.
McIntyre [Agnes died Isle of Bute 1873]
McKay, Hall & Gibb.
McKelvie & Frederick.
McLean, Thomson, Taylor, Grieve & Marr.
McLuckie (Sneddon), Lindsay & Shields.
McLure, Edgar & Rennie.
McMurdo [Catherine, Order of the Eastern Star, died 1917] (adjacent to William, Freemason)
McMurdo [William, Freemason died 1909]
McNay & Burgess.
McNeil & Timmins.
McPherson, Cram, McNab & Johnston.
McRoberts & Jacquest.
McWhirter & Tombs.
Meek & Warnock.
Melrose & Dickson.
Millar & Love.
Millar, Allison, Wylie & Beverage.
Miller & Addie.
Miller [James Ormond 1859 – 1903].
Morris, Ward & Black.
Morrison, Napier & Milne.
Mowat & Smith.
Muir & Dobbie.
Muirden, Struthers & Cassels.
Mulrine & Welsh.
Munro, Chalmers & Sharp.
Murray & Henderson.
Murray & Taylor.
Murray [Peter & Rebecca], Minto & King.
Nichols & Gavins.
Nisbet & Ferguson.
Nixon, Brayton & Dunlop.
Orr & Collins. [Adjacent to Orr, Buchannan & McFarlane]
Orr, Buchanan & McFarlane.
Paisley [James & Margaret].
Paterson & Osborne.
Paterson, Dykes & Cowie.
Paterson, Hislop & Watt.
Paul & Condie.
Pollock & Wilson.
Pollock [Alexander died 1935].
Pugh, Russell, Stevenson & Roger.
Reid & (Baillie?).
Reid & Crawford.
Richmond & Hamilton.
Ritchie & Macdonald.
Robb & McLeod.
Robertson & Scott.
Rodger & Galloway.
Russell, (Draffan) Macqueen & McBride. (next to Macqueen, Maginnes & Russell).
Russell, Napier & Meikle.
Russell, Steven & Henderson.
Sharp, Paul & Millar.
Shearer, Baillie & Forsyth.
Shedden & (Thomson?).
Smellie, Cook & (Gray?).
Smith & Goodman.
Smith & Moffat.
Smith [Edward & Catherine].
Smith, Weir, White, Keir & Johnston.
Sneddon & Love.
Sommerville, Ballantyne & Rae.
Stewart [Duncan & Janet of Strathaven].
Stirret & Milligan.
Straiton & Hamilton.
Swift & Norton.
Taylor & Danks.
Taylor [William & Sarah]
Taylor, Gilchrist & McLeod.
Tennant & Findlay.
Tennant & Telford.
Thomson & Barton.
Thomson & Christie.
Thomson & Samuel.
Tonks & Yeardley.
Twaddle, Grant & Lees.
Wales & McAdam.
Walker, King & Boyes.
Wardrope [George & Mary] & Corbett & (Rod)gerson.
Webster, Eddie, Mitchell & Finlay.
Weir & Jamieson.
Weir & Wotherspoon.
Weir, Caldwell & Cooper.
Weir, Young & Logan.
White, BarKlay, Neilson & Deane.
Williams & Springthorpe.
Williams [Thomas Edward & Catherine].
Williams, Stanley & Nichols.
Williamson & Crawford.
Young & Aitken.
Young & Gardiner.
Young & Russell.


Sorry, the names are on the list though!!  Baxter (Gibb) McKay (Gibb) Sommerville/Ballantyne/Rae. Thanks anyway.  Elaine
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: KennethDavidson on Monday 02 May 16 17:00 BST (UK)
Hi Lodger,
I think the reference to 'Maxwell [James & Isabella] & (Mill or Hill?)' might refer to James Maxwell and Isabella Miller. If so, can you post a picture of the gravestone, please?

Many thanks,
Kenneth.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Monday 02 May 16 19:13 BST (UK)
Hi Kenneth, this is a difficult one to decipher, it could well be Isabella Miller but that's about as far as it goes, apart from the month of death - March. sorry it isn't much use.

Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: KennethDavidson on Monday 02 May 16 19:46 BST (UK)
Hi Lodger,
Thanks for the image. Reading between the lines it looks like it refers to James Maxwell (d. 18 Apr 1913) and Isabella Miller (d. 17 Mar 1905). They were the parents of a significant CR family.

Next time I'm in Motherwell I'll have a look myself.

Cheers,
Kenneth.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: margmo1 on Tuesday 03 May 16 10:34 BST (UK)
good morning
I would appreciate a photo of the headstone in the globe cemetery of NISBET & FERGUSON. I am keeping my fingers crossed they are of Jane Nisbet & Robert Ferguson who lived in Motherwell.
with many thanks
margaret
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Tuesday 03 May 16 21:19 BST (UK)
Without even looking at the photograph I can tell you that this is not the stone you are looking for. I always index them as MALE + FEMALE. So Nisbet is a man, Ferguson a woman.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: margmo1 on Wednesday 04 May 16 10:59 BST (UK)
thank you lodger for letting me know.
regards
margaret
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Sonoma Bill on Sunday 10 May 20 20:21 BST (UK)
Hi Lodger - Can you send me photographs for the (1) Hislops and (2) Patersons? Thank you for all of your work. Sonoma Bill
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Monday 11 May 20 11:22 BST (UK)
Hi Sonoma Bill, here they are (probably in 2 posts) the cemetery is in a very dilapidated condition, most of the stones are on their backs. Some are easier to read than others.
I think the top part of the Hislop/Baillie stone is missing.



Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Monday 11 May 20 11:24 BST (UK)
Now the Paterson ones. I haven't included the Paterson/Dykes picture as this is my own family and I don't think we have a Hislop connection.

Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Sonoma Bill on Monday 11 May 20 16:43 BST (UK)
Lodger - Thank you so much for the photographs. I really appreciate it. Sonoma Bill

P.S.  Do you know how far the cemetery is from the town of Galashiels?
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Monday 11 May 20 18:49 BST (UK)
About 70 miles Bill, a 90 minute drive in light traffic.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Sonoma Bill on Monday 11 May 20 20:34 BST (UK)
Thank you, Lodger. I think my great-grandfather, William Paterson, lived in the vicinity of Galashiels before he emigrated to Baltimore, Maryland in the 1870s with a brother and started a florist business. He added a "t" somewhere along the line to become William Patterson, and his daughter - Charlotte (Patterson) Farley - was my maternal grandmother. Thank you again for all of your work.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: doolittle72 on Tuesday 12 May 20 20:40 BST (UK)
Hi Lodger
The Hamilton /Goodall is in my tree.  I know how difficult it is to find as some years ago I was able to see the cemetery from the other side of the river.  It looked pretty devastated then in the early nineteen nineties.
Dooolittle72
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Tuesday 12 May 20 21:22 BST (UK)
Hi Doolittle,

Here is what remains of the stone, it looks as if it's been knocked over at some point and is now standing against another stone. Erosion has taken it's toll and most of the inscription has gone. I have no idea what the paint on top is all about!

Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: doolittle72 on Wednesday 13 May 20 19:26 BST (UK)
Hi Lodger
I suspect the paint is the work of the vandals.  Being across the river from Forgewood, i have no doubt about that.
Thank you very much for the image.  I think I can read enough of the inscription.
Doolittle72
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: mags c on Thursday 21 May 20 22:23 BST (UK)
Hi when would you recommend visiting the Globe Graveyard?  without taking the S.A.S with you
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Thursday 21 May 20 22:43 BST (UK)
On a nice warm, sunny day before lunch, wearing stout shoes and after the Lockdown has ended of course!
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: mags c on Thursday 21 May 20 23:02 BST (UK)
Cheers .

Mags
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Bella55 on Tuesday 18 October 22 13:04 BST (UK)
Hi,

One of my ancestors, William White, lived at Dalziel Cemetery according to some census records & his death certificate (grave digger, Cemetery Keeper, Cemetery Superintendent).  The 1901 Census has the Civil Parish as Dalziel but the Ecclesiastical Parish as Bothwell & Quad Sacra Parish as Holytown. 

Would I be right in assuming that 'Dalziel Cemetery' is different to the former 'Dalziel Parish Cemetery' (now Globe Cemetery) that this post focusses on?  I looked at maps and Globe Cemetery is located within Motherwell rather than Bothwell or Holytown.

thanks
Bella
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Tuesday 18 October 22 17:10 BST (UK)
Hi Bella,

They were one and the same place. The Globe (aka Dalziel cemetery) is situated on the far side of the river Calder and is therefore technically in the parish of Bothwell. It was opened in 1876 after Dalziel parish council purchased the land from Bothwell parish. The gravediggers and superintendent's houses were situated just over the bridge at the entrance to the cemetery, so they were also in Bothwell parish but would have had a Motherwell address.

I wouldn't trouble myself too much about the quad sacra parish, it doesn't really help in any way.

I'll never understand why Dalziel put their cemetery way down there, it was a nightmare to reach, especially without motorized transport, there was plenty of other farmland in the parish at that time. I think they picked the Globe (although it wasn't called that in 1876) because it was, or had been, a bleachfield and had probably fallen into disuse, so they would have paid much less than if it had been good arable land.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Tuesday 18 October 22 17:16 BST (UK)
Was your ancestor William White, son of Colin White & Margaret Jackson?
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Bella55 on Tuesday 18 October 22 17:29 BST (UK)
Thanks Lodger.  That all makes sense.

I've just started looking at family history in recent months and am focussing on Whites for a bit.  William's death certificate lists Colin White and Margaret Jackson as parents but I've not looked into them yet (I have found a birth record for Colin White in Glasgow in 1803, son of William White and Janet Bryce but not confirmed whether this is 'my' William White's father).

William is my Great-great-great Grandfather.

His wife Mary appears to have ended up in Lanark District Asylum after William's death - going back has unearthed quite a few sad stories.

Is there a headstone for William and/or Mary at the Globe Cemetery?  Most of my relatives (paternal and maternal) are in Airbles Cemetery.

best wishes
Bella
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Tuesday 18 October 22 21:59 BST (UK)
Hello again Bella,

I have quite a few pictures of Globe headstones but nothing for your White's, sorry. I do have some cemetery records though. Here's what I found.

5 interments in plot No. 98 DC.

THOMAS HAMILTON WHITE, labourer, aged 20 years. Abode - Dalziel cemetery.
Parents - William White & Mary Early. Interred 15th April 1884.

BEATRICE R. WHITE, aged 3 months. 5 Springwell Terrace, Blantyre.
Parents - Robert White & S F McLeod. Interred 11th October 1886.

BEATRICE WHITE, aged 18 hours. 3 Park Street Motherwell.
Parents - Robert White & Elizabeth McLeod. Interred 10th May 1888.

WILLIAM WHITE, aged 75 years, cemetery superintendent, married. Cemetery Cottages.
Parents - Colin White & Margaret Jackson. Interred 17th January 1903.

MARY FAIRLEY or WHITE, aged 78 years, widow. Hartwood Asylum.
Parents names unknown. Interred 22nd May 1907.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Bella55 on Wednesday 19 October 22 15:50 BST (UK)
Hi Lodger,

this is incredibly helpful - thank you!  I'm off to do more research  :)

I know that WILLIAM WHITE and MARY FAIRLEY'S son, ANDREW WHITE, had a son called THOMAS HAMILTON McBAIN (or McBEAN) WHITE and it would make sense that this child was named after Andrew's brother, Thomas.

It's unfortunate that Mary's parents aren't mentioned as that's one of the brick walls I've come up against but there are plenty of other avenues to now try regarding her family with William.

thanks again,
Bella
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Bella55 on Tuesday 18 July 23 22:09 BST (UK)
Thanks to Lodger's information, I was able to find out a little more about the White family.  Today seemed like a fitting day to post as it's the anniversary of Andrew White's marriage to Isabella (Bella) McLeod.  The marriage took place 18th July 1882 at Rosskeen Farm (Ross & Cromarty) where Bella's father, Kenneth, was a shepherd.  Lodger's mention of a Robert White led to the discovery that Andrew's brother Robert married Bella's sister, Eliza, in 1885, again in Rosskeen.

Andrew and Robert's father, William, was in the army (Royal Scots Greys/2nd Dragoons).  Family stories link him to Crimean War but I've not yet subscribed to sites that have military records so that'll be an area of research for future and may help me pin down the birthplace of some of William's sons who weren't born in Scotland.

I found the birth and death certificates for Robert and Eliza's first two children - both of whom died very young as mentioned in post above and both named Beatrice.  Their other children (those I've found) were Kenneth McLeod (1890), William (1894), Robert Donald McLeod (1895), Colin (1897) and Harry (1902) and Elizabeth Margaret (known as Elma?) (1908).  I assume no record of the children born from 1890 onwards because they survived beyond the date that the Globe Cemetery closed?

Additionally, the post from Lodger with note of memorial inscription records William's wife as Mary Early whereas I had her surname noted as 'Fairley' (from asylum records) so that may help me find out more about her background in England/Ireland.

Thanks again Lodger for the very useful information,
Bella
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 19 July 23 00:56 BST (UK)
Hi Bella,

Congratulations on breaking down a couple of brick walls, it's always good to hear a success story. Thanks too for coming back to tell us all of your progress, it makes my day (and many other stalwarts of this group) when we get feedback about help we've given.
Too often we hear nothing and sometimes I spend a great deal of time, between delving into records and/or going to burial grounds for inscriptions/photographs, only to hear nothing at all from the original poster, a wee "thanks you" would be appreciated.
So Bella, any other help you need, just ask (although I don't do ironing but, apart from that!)
Good luck with the rest of your research,
Lodger
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Post by: Bella55 on Wednesday 19 July 23 01:46 BST (UK)
Hi Lodger,

My apologies for such a delayed response.  Due to health issues, my family history efforts happen in short bursts but I'm getting there slowly  :) 

I am VERY appreciative of others' help as I can't easily manage to get to places in person to look up records etc.  It's fantastic to be able to access a wealth of information online but there's still a good deal that's not online that I need assistance with.

The White family has been interesting - I'll try to do a post about what I know so far about William and Mary & their sons and also ask for some help with a few more gaps.

best wishes
Bella

PS It's a shame you can't help with the ironing as that's not one of my favourite chores!!
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Bella55 on Thursday 22 February 24 17:25 GMT (UK)
I bought a postcard of "Dalziel Cemetery' that I am assuming is the same place as 'Globe Cemetery' based on what i've read on here. I've tried to attach a photo of the postcard but keep getting a message that it's too large so will try again another time.  There's a one-storey building to the left of the postcard that is perhaps the cottage that my relatives would have lived in when William White was the Cemetery keeper/superintendent.

1881 Census: William White (53 years, 'Cemetery Keeper' @ 'Dalziel Cemetery'.  Residing with him are his wife Mary (50) and sons Thomas (17), a Railway Labourer, and George (12).

1891 Census: William (63) recorded as 'Superintendent of Cemetery' @ "Dalziel Cemetery Ho'.  Residing with him are his wife Mary (60) and son George (age illegible) who is working at the ironworks.

1901 Census: William (73 recorded as 'General labourer' @ 'Dalziel Cemetery'.  Residing with him are his wife Mary (70) and a servant, Mary Millsopp (57).

Not sure why 1901 occupation is 'general labourer' (seems like a demotion!).  I wondered whether someone else had taken over as Superintendent and William still did oddjobs but address is still the Cemetery and they presumably have enough income to employ a servant.  Any thoughts on the change in occupation description welcome.

Sadly, Mary (m.s. Fairley) then appears in General Register for Lunatics in Asylum for the Parish of Dalziel.  I need to do more research but looks like Mary died at Hartwood in 1907 (Lanark District Asylum.  There's reference to William having died 'here' but I don't know whether that just means he died in the Parish of Dalziel as both William and Mary seem to have been in Aberdeen between the Census of 1901 and their deaths in 1906 and 1907 (son William Henry lived there).

William's death certificate (14 Jan 1907) records his residence as 'Cemetery Cottage, Dalziel' and his occupation as 'Grave digger'.

William had been a soldier in the 2nd Dragoons Scots Greys until 1874 and I need to brush up on undertaking military searches and start a separate thread about this but wanted to update some findings relating to the White family's stay at Dalziel/Globe Cemetery.

best wishes
Bella
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Bella55 on Thursday 22 February 24 17:31 GMT (UK)
This isn't the postcard I bought but a similar image showing the Cemetery cottages.
Bella

From: https://www.culturenlmuseums.co.uk/story/cradle-of-scotlands-railways/

"The Jerviston Viaduct which towered over the Globe Cemetery was built in 1840 to carry the Wishaw and Coltness Railway over the Calder Vale in Motherwell. This was the first structure of its type in Scotland with stone piers over 30 metres high supporting a wooden framework. The viaduct was demolished in the 1920s."
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Thursday 22 February 24 21:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Bella,

The postcard is definitely the Globe cemetery. There are two cottages in the picture, which would make sense.
The Globe viaduct was, as you rightly say, demolished in the 1920s. You may be interested to know that the stones from the demolished structure were recycled and used as part of the foundations of Gleneagles Hotel, Perthshire, which was built as the flagship hotel of the Caledonian Railway Company.
As for William's occupation being described as a labourer, he may well have retired and allowed to stay in his cottage rent-free on the condition that he still did some work in the cemetery.
If he was in the regular army he would have been in receipt of an army pension, probably about sixpence a day.
A "servant" sounds a bit of an extravagance in a little but and ben cottage, she may have been known to them and was a glorified lodger (with a small L)  ;D
Milsop is a local name, they all lived in the Milton St area, the street that leads down to the Globe.

Good luck with your research,
Lodger.

 
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Bella55 on Thursday 22 February 24 22:19 GMT (UK)
As ever, that's all really helpful Lodger.

According to the 1901 Census, the domestic servant, Mary Millsopp, was born in Ireland as was William's wife, Mary.  William's regiment was based in Ireland more than once (and some of William and Mary's children were born there).  No idea if there's any connection to Mary Millsopp from those days or whether they just knew her from local area.

There's another Caledonian Railway connection - one of William's sons, Robert, is recorded in the 1921 Census as a Cart Waggon Inspector working for the company.  I wonder what the difference would have been between his monthly wage and a night at the Gleneagles Hotel!  Maybe I should book myself a trip and class it as family history research :)

Bella
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Thursday 22 February 24 22:29 GMT (UK)

There's another Caledonian Railway connection - one of William's sons, Robert, is recorded in the 1921 Census as a Cart Waggon Inspector working for the company.  I wonder what the difference would have been between his monthly wage and a night at the Gleneagles Hotel!  Maybe I should book myself a trip and class it as family history research :)

Bella

 ;D ;D ;D That's what to do Bella, put it on expenses and, if you need an independent consultant to accompany you, let me know.  8)
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Bella55 on Thursday 22 February 24 22:35 GMT (UK)
 :)
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Bella55 on Wednesday 28 February 24 23:25 GMT (UK)
One (last!) post on William White and Globe/Dalziel Cemetery. 

I found an short article in Motherwell Times (March 6th 1903) mentioning the need to upgrade the cottage that William and family lived in prior to his death:

Dalziel Parish Council - Cemetery

"The Cemetery Committee reported that after hearing report by members of the committee who had visited and examined the house occupied by the late William White, assistant gravedigger, they had resolved to recommend that the house be put in a proper condition of repair (the probable cost of the necessary improvements being estimated by the committee at £30), and that the remit be made to the sub-committee to have the work carried out.
On the motion of Mr Fraser the report was adopted."

I wonder what the Cemetery Committee would make of the state of the cemetery now!

NB: William is recorded as 'assistant gravedigger' which I think supports Lodger's suggestion that he 'semi-retired' as the Cemetery Superintendent (occupation listed in an earlier Census) but was able to stay on in a cottage.

Bella
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Lodger on Wednesday 28 February 24 23:35 GMT (UK)
One (last!) post on William White and Globe/Dalziel Cemetery. 



I wonder what the Cemetery Committee would make of the state of the cemetery now!


Bella

Turning in their graves no doubt! £30 - Dalziel Parochial Board certainly knew how to push the boat out!

A great find in the Motherwell Times Bella, congratulations.
Title: Re: GLOBE CEMETERY (Dalziel Parish Cemetery) PHOTOGRAPHS
Post by: Bella55 on Thursday 29 February 24 03:18 GMT (UK)
Thanks Lodger.  I happened to find a scribbled note I'd made when I was a teenager many moons ago and had asked my Gran some questions about family.  Beside William's name, I'd written 'Motherwell Times' so searched his name in that newspaper via Findmypast and hey presto. 

Also found a really informative obituary that I've just added to a post I've started in the Armed Forces forum trying to find out more about the births of William's children (as they were born in various places whilst he moved around with army).  Amazing how some long ago scribbles can be the key to a little bit of treasure!

Bella