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Title: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Annette Witherby on Sunday 28 February 16 01:50 GMT (UK)
Would someone please give me an idea of the conditions on the 3 mast full rigged ship in 1881 taking 3 months to travel to Qld.
I presume there  would have been casualties due to the heat In Dec-Mar. Not sure how many passengers the ships would have carried.
Any help appreciated,
Annette
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: warncoort on Sunday 28 February 16 02:29 GMT (UK)
From resources page.
http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/Indexes/Immigration/Pages/Immigration1848.aspx
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Aussie1947 on Sunday 28 February 16 02:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Annette,

Any particular ship you are looking at.

Gerry
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Annette Witherby on Sunday 28 February 16 02:53 GMT (UK)
Gerry, the ship is The Duke Of Athole which sailed from Glasgow 18.12.1881 and arrived in Moreton Bay 16.3.1882.
Unfortunately I do not know why they came out - not for gold I do not think.

The sad part is my grandson is asking lots of questions for a project and I am feeling very stupid.

The conditions on the ship and the hardships are his query.  With a one year old child I should imagine it was difficult.
Many thanks fore your reply.
Annette
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: rosball on Sunday 28 February 16 03:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Annette,
   Here are a few articles about the arrival during March 1881
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h5k/

  Still looking for a description of voyage ...

regards
   Ros

adding : List of immigrants http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article148663186
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Aussie1947 on Sunday 28 February 16 03:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Annette,

Sorry, you named the vessel in your first post.

From the Qld State Archives, for that voyage there were.

1 x full paying passenger.
231 free passengers.
49 assisted passengers.
30 remittance passengers.
3 x births on board
5 x deaths on board.

total souls landed, 309.

Gerry
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Annette Witherby on Sunday 28 February 16 03:45 GMT (UK)
Gerry you are amazing!!!!!!

Very interesting statistics.

Ros, I look forward to any info.

I have found a picture of the Ship and she looks pretty good.  Although it would be a painting and hence the nice appearance.

The route back then would have been south of Africa and the poor ships would have been battered.

Unfortunately I have no convict in the family for my grandson, we are oh so ordinary and a 3 month sail was the best I could come up with.

Many thanks,
Annette
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: wivenhoe on Sunday 28 February 16 03:48 GMT (UK)

Central Queensland Herald 28 Aug 1930
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/70318835?
...more identifiers for passengers.
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: wivenhoe on Sunday 28 February 16 03:52 GMT (UK)

Do web search to find -

...The Duke of Atholl, in 1878, was the first sailing ship towed through the Suez Canal...sold to Devitt and Moore in 1880...sold on again 1889......
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Annette Witherby on Sunday 28 February 16 04:05 GMT (UK)
Thankyou to all of you.  The Suez Canal information was most interesting.

Annette
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Aussie1947 on Sunday 28 February 16 05:23 GMT (UK)
Just for interest the 3 children born on board had the middle name as ATHOLE or ATHOL after the name of the vessel.

Robert Athol Smart, born 25th March 1882, registered in Qld.

Wm (William) Athole King, born 24th March 1882, birth registered in Qld.

John Athole Robertson, cant find a Qld birth registration.

The 5 deaths on board were infants.

Gerry
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Annette Witherby on Sunday 28 February 16 05:29 GMT (UK)
Gerry I do not know how you do it.

Thank heavens our 1 year old survived the journey.
Many thanks,
Annette
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Dundee on Sunday 28 February 16 05:41 GMT (UK)
Gerry, the ship is The Duke Of Athole which sailed from Glasgow 18.12.1881 and arrived in Moreton Bay 16.3.1882.
Annette

Hi Annette,
   Here are a few articles about the arrival during March 1881
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h5k/

Ros

adding : List of immigrants http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article148663186

Wrong voyage Ros  ;D

Try this one:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h5l/

Debra  :)

Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: rosball on Sunday 28 February 16 05:44 GMT (UK)
Whoops sorry   :(  Thanks Debra  :)
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Annette Witherby on Sunday 28 February 16 06:01 GMT (UK)
Yes Debra you have the right one.

It took some finding but my family - Sinclairs, had been listed as  "Similar". It shows the 3 names, Robert, Eliza and Mary.
This is on the index of Immigrant Ship's Arrivals 1848-1912.
Thanks again,
Annette
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Aussie1947 on Sunday 28 February 16 06:03 GMT (UK)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/170212883?searchTerm=

The 'Kalara' moved the passengers up the Brisbane River from the Duke of Athole which was at anchor in Moreton Bay on the evening of 27th March 1882 to the Immigration Centre.

Gerry
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 28 February 16 13:48 GMT (UK)
R.L.Stevenson's "An Amateur Emigrant", gives an excellent insight into life aboard an emigrant ship of the period, although sailing from the Clyde to New York & not Australia, Stevenson made the voyage himself & relates his experiences. Available online.

Skoosh.
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Neil Todd on Sunday 28 February 16 16:28 GMT (UK)
Some good reading here for the children. A Typical voyage to Australia under Canvas.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/Typical%20Journey%20to%20SA.htm

Neil
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Annette Witherby on Sunday 28 February 16 23:22 GMT (UK)
Thankyou Skoosh and Neil.

I will try the local library today.
Annette
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: CatyD on Saturday 07 April 18 09:11 BST (UK)
My great-grandmother sailed from Glascow to Brisbane on this ship. They sailed around the Cape of Good Hope and didn't stop. The ship also docked in Sydney before proceeding to Brisbane. I believe this was the only voyage the ship made to Australia from the UK.
Title: Re: The Duke Of Athol
Post by: Annette Witherby on Saturday 07 April 18 11:20 BST (UK)
Caty, many thanks for the interesting information.

I will have to get back to my Sinclairs again - where has all the time gone?

Take care,   Anne