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Title: Yorkshire Place Name - Ampleforth area?
Post by: AntonyMMM on Sunday 28 February 16 13:59 GMT (UK)

I have a man (William Farndale) whose birth place changes in various censuses but is most likely to be in the Ampleforth area. On the 1871 census (whilst living in Settrington) his birthplace appears as shown on this image. Transcribed on Ancestry as Fegleg ?

Can someone with a knowledge of the area suggest what/where it may be ?

Title: Re: Yorkshire Place Name - Ampleforth area?
Post by: Rena on Sunday 28 February 16 14:42 GMT (UK)

It looks a bit like Filey (on the coast near Robin Hoods Bay) to me.

Here's a webpage with a list of places in Yorkshire to give other ideas of what it could be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_Yorkshire

Title: Re: Yorkshire Place Name - Ampleforth area?
Post by: AntonyMMM on Monday 07 March 16 10:35 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the suggestion. Filey would be too far away from places given on other records, so I think I have to discount that.

Still looking for any other suggestions.

Other records for this man give a birthplace of Bishop Wilton  or Ampleforth.

Title: Re: Yorkshire Place Name - Ampleforth area?
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 March 16 10:55 GMT (UK)

Quote from: AntonyMMM on Monday 07 March 16 10:35 GMT (UK)

Filey would be too far away from places given on other records, so I think I have to discount that.

I don't think that you should discount Filey

Googling distances  :-\

From Settrington where he is living
to Bishop Wilton about 17 miles
to Ampleforth about 20 miles
to Filey about 21 miles

Rosie

Title: Re: Yorkshire Place Name - Ampleforth area?
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 March 16 11:18 GMT (UK)

I see that his father is Elijah from his marriage

There is an Elijah/Elisha in Bishop Wilton bn c1796 in Bishop Wilton in 1841
H0107/1216 bk21 f3 page 1

possible marriage to Jane Foster (transcript says Elias Farnel) 23 November 1814 at Bishop Wilton

Title: Re: Yorkshire Place Name - Ampleforth area?
Post by: Rena on Monday 07 March 16 15:29 GMT (UK)

I wonder if the enumerator couldn't read the original handwriting and had a guess at the place name?

There must have been two letters in the word with "hanging" tails such as "y", "g" "j", "p" "q" "z".

From Ampleforth there's an 8 mile walk east south east to "Slingsby" or an 8 miles walk westward to Bagby.

Title: Re: Yorkshire Place Name - Ampleforth area?
Post by: josey on Monday 07 March 16 15:52 GMT (UK)

For reference RG10; Piece: 4822; Folio: 85; Page: 5

The first capital looks very similar to 'F' of 'Farmer' & 'Farmer's wife' in earlier lines.

May be his baptism - the actual parish record may show where the parents were living.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J9QV-X2D

Title: Re: Yorkshire Place Name - Ampleforth area?
Post by: BumbleB on Monday 07 March 16 16:00 GMT (UK)

BT entry says Ampleforth.  Elias is a Labourer.

Title: Re: Yorkshire Place Name - Ampleforth area?
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 07 March 16 16:30 GMT (UK)

This might help:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/nearby?CCC=NRY,GR=SE584785,DISTANCE=5,PN=Ampleforth

Carol

Title: Re: Yorkshire Place Name - Ampleforth area?
Post by: AntonyMMM on Monday 07 March 16 19:58 GMT (UK)

Thank you for all the ideas.

I have found a probable census entry for the man's father in 1851, which gives his birth place as Yearsley ( which isn't far from Ampletforth).

I am wondering whether this is just a very badly copied entry by the enumerator.

Title: Re: Yorkshire Place Name - Ampleforth area?
Post by: Treetotal on Monday 07 March 16 20:15 GMT (UK)

Yes Yearsley is on the Genuki link I sent and is only two and a half miles away from Ampleforth.
Carol