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Nathanael Hood Anne ?? married in 1732 Brayton Yorkshire (West Riding )
If Nathanial Hood of Selby was Grandpa Hood of George d 1845 buried 1751 in Heslington (York Uni) maybe that is the place of birth/buial of George D 1845 and his daddy (John d 1819 Selby or George the widower in deeds) son of Nathanial
Is there a Will/probate of Nathanial Hood 1751/1752 or Deeds
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Nathanael Hood Anne ?? married in 1732 Brayton Yorkshire (West Riding )
Thanks, I wonder, if there were children, somewhere?
It might be a dead end, but I'll be after Ann Todd's Will and trying to find out who Mary Langfield was ... made a few Edits to my last post now. It is not the property, it is any relationships, which might be of interest.
Kind regards Mark
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Goughy
Can you look up the full transcript
The 1732 Nathanial Hood & Annie ?? marriage is in FindMyPast bishops transcript's index
Anne Loftas 1732 Nathanael Hood marriage in Brayton Yorkshire (West Riding)
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Nathanael Hood of Selby and Anne Loftas of Brayton married 11th January.
(Sent because Goughy isn't on-line at the moment) :)
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Way back in the early part of this thread I've already done some research into Nathaniel, i.e. marriage, death and confirmed no will.
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Mary TODD married Thomas Langfield 30 March 1777 Selby
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Mark you have done any research 1786 to 1800 on schools in Selby for George Hood d 1845 ? as we know he could sign his name.
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Looking back for Nathaniel found this ...
I don't feel that we should quite dismiss this yet, on the basis that George Hood born / baptised 1781Topcliffe by Thirsk, became the Soldier who died Leeds Sept 1845 aged 63. Although whether John Hood mariner of Selby fits with this, or our George, I don't know ...
The baptism in 1781 Topcliffe gives "Joseph Hood of Asenby, Labourer son of Joseph Hood of Melmerby Farmer and Ellen Spence dau of George Spence Burneston, Taylor"
I too have had a "lets get back to basics moment" George and Sarah's children are:
William b 1816
John b 1819
Mary b 1822
George b 1824
Richard b 1826
James b 1828
Ellen b 1830
Sarah b 1835
Now, if they named their children, as most did at that time after father's mothers etc., somewhere in there could possibly be the names of George's parents. Sarah's father was William, a Sailor. What was her mother's names and did she have any brother or sisters? Just to try and eliminate some names. Acknowledge not a foolproof way, but sometimes leads to something. We also have to acknowledge that not all baptisms are "on line" and some Parish Registers are damaged or no longer exist. BTs on line are not always a "true" record (unfortunately) and there is no substitute at looking at the actual records.
Goughy
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Mark you have done any research 1786 to 1800 on schools in Selby for George Hood d 1845 ? as we know he could sign his name.
No, but there was a School called Bluecoats and Tutors at Selby.
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Thanks Goughy found it and Ruth52 post, just before yours ...
Just for future reference for you
Nathanial Hood of Selby married Anne Loftas 1732 at Brayton
Deaths
Nathanial Hood, Skinner, Malton 1745
Nathanial Hood, Household, 1751 Heslington
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I don't feel that we should quite dismiss this yet, on the basis that George Hood born / baptised 1781Topcliffe by Thirsk, became the Soldier who died Leeds Sept 1845 aged 63. Although whether John Hood mariner of Selby fits with this, or our George, I don't know ...
Just for clarity - the George Hood 1781 born BURNISTON turned out to be the soldier who died in Leeds so Topcliffe one not traced.
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Thank you. Next R.O. visit (in future) will have to cover a search of Scarborough Registers and the other Mariners records at Hull.
Don't think you saw this
If this George did not die by 1815 then John is unlikey to be George's dad unless your George is fibbing about his age on 1841c and to the person who recorded his Death 1845
Baptism --- George Hood son of John & Elizabeth Hood 1771 Scarborough (BT's)
Can't find a death for this George as infant or adult before 1815
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I've not gone through all the replies to your request re grave in Selby. Look here http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Selby/index.html#Cemeteries for cemeteries for Selby. I have ancestors who lived and died in Selby but I've not searched for a grave. Must get round to it. Our ancestors may have crossed paths as there were landlords/ladies in Selby.
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I read somewhere the Methodist Chapel Selby stands on a earlier building ground also the Abbey graveyard had a un consecrated section. Brayton Methodist Chapel may have a burial section in the parish graveyard.
This link gives nonconformist chapels erection years around Selby
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=LlVDree72SEC&pg=PA171&lpg=PA171&dq=hambleton+wesleyan+methodist+chapel&source=bl&ots=jHFq9UUtxO&sig=Bq19Hc1sd8M4SbWQSKealV9lTDs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiW3Jbj_qrKAhUEQhQKHVg4BQIQ6AEIPjAF#v=onepage&q=hambleton%20wesleyan%20methodist%20chapel&f=false
Thanks for the link.
The 'Faculty' file at the Borthwick of when work was carried out on the floor, has no plan attached.
1842 Registrar General
Also found this regarding places ... Registered for Marriages
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EzUJAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA110&lpg=PA110&dq=Bethesda+chapel+Selby&source=bl&ots=wJkH4t9a5B&sig=IYv4GmDOXD8bxhsw2vsaECSUqSs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD_5Sb1bPKAhVJOhQKHRArBNsQ6AEIKzAH
Seems the Selby Catholics used The Carlton Catholic Chapel - Carlton in the Parish of Snaith.
Bethesda Chapel, Selby.
Apparently, some Independant Chapels now come under the United Reformed Church.
The 'West Riding Hearth Tax' book, although this would be too early, the only two Hoods were:-
p.325 Carelton (Carlton) m.9 Robte Hood & forge 2 hearths 1672
p.188 Dringhouses f364 c1 Willm Hood 1 hearth 1672
EDIT - Thank you Cassie, Selby Landlords you can find a few in the:-
a) The Universal British Directory ... c.1795, one of the volumes covers Selby "Volume the Fourth." limited to main occupants only, but worth looking!
b) The Selby Directory for the Year 1800 ... in a book by Mountain
c) Directory of Selby, by Edward Baines Published in 1822.
d) Pigots, National Commercial Directory for 1828-9 and
e) The Tourists Companion ... by E. Parsons 1835 includes "The Directory. Selby"
All can be downloaded for free, mostly from:- archive.org , or Google books, or Open Library. Don't forget checking British Library free downloads too.
I avoid sites, where they ask you for your email address first.
Regards Mark
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Thank you Mark, Ive checked Bains and Piggots but not the others.
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Hello All
This business of burial for non-conformists and dissenters is more complicated than I realised ...
Here is a page with links, which dicusses some problems they encountered and why ...
http://www.genguide.co.uk/source/unitarianpresbyterian-records-amp-registers-nonconformist/151/
My Grandfather Hood married at a Methodist Chapel.
However, looking at the family photocopies again, I noticed a Selby Abbey baptism:-
Name ... Edith Mary
The child of ... George and Cecilia Hood
Was Baptised on ... 26th December 1875 at Selby Abbey
Godparents ... Wigston Fields Leicestershire
Signed ... F. W. Harper Cannon Vicar
So my 2 X Gt. Grandparents had at least one child baptised in Selby Abbey.
Regards Mark
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Township records: Selby
1701-1974
http://archives.northyorks.gov.uk/DServe/dserve.exe?dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Show.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqPos=14&dsqSearch=%28%28text%29%3D%27selby%20%27%29
Minutes of the vestry 1790-1873
Accounts including overseers of the poor records, church rates, highway rates and workhouse records 1701-1819.
Land Tax Assessments 1753-1807.
Overseers of the poor papers including apprenticeship indentures, vouchers and correspondence 1829-1835.
Copies Parts of this collection have been microfilmed [MIC 1784, 1805, 1806, 1808, 1809, 1810, 1829, 1857, 1858, 1859, 1860, 1862, 1863, 1864, 1878
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
Reading Morrell's 1867 History and Antiquities of Selby and found various early 19th Century references to religious dissent at Selby. It seems Selby had its dissenters, Methodism, Unitarians, etc.
A search indicated Hoods of Bardon Park were also dissenters.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardon_Park_Chapel
As you have said, this probably accounts for some marriages by Licence, with no baptism or burial in the Parish Register. Some changed denominations, as it suited them.
Some dissenters paid to be buried at Private Cemeteries elsewhere, which were springing up in the main Cities.
It was sometimes difficult to bury unbaptised children. A case in the 1870s shocked the country where the family were too poor to pay for the child to be transported and the higher burial fees elsewhere. The local graveyard relented and allocated a grave near the boundary wall. The paper says that two men lowered the coffin into the grave, but the Service had to be held the other side (outside) of the boundary wall.
Sounds like, us making a visit to Yorkshire, but a record may not survive.
Mark
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Hi Mark
Don't know if you would be interested, FindMyPast has a free weekend coming up 22 - 25 January.
When you next visit Yorkshire, I expect afternoon tea at Bettys :D :D :D LOL
Sorry we haven't cracked this one....... yet!
Goughy
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http://forebears.co.uk/england/yorkshire/selby
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Thank you, both
Will look-in on FindMyPast.
It seems a few Registers have not been filmed.
Just had a reply from East Yorkshire re St Marys [Scarborough] ...
"294 (Brass) Here lieth interred JOSEPH / HOOD who died the 12th October 173(-)aged 53 years"
"TPR 173(-) Not found in Register"
If East Yorkshire are correct that they could not find this Joseph Hood interment in the [burial] Register, it seems the Memoral plaque is the only record.
When death Civil Registration started in 1837, some felt that complied with the Law and some Burial Registers stop. However, when a new Law came in, in 1858 even more Registers were handed over to the Registrar General, which went to the P.R.O., now in the TNA, Kew, RG series.
Kind regards, Mark
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When death Civil Registration started in 1837, some felt that complied with the Law and some Burial Registers stop. However, when a new Law came in, in 1858 even more Registers were handed over to the Registrar General, which went to the Public Record Office, now in the RG series.
The RG series are on line http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/ I'm not a subscriber, but did do a free search and couldn't find George
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When death Civil Registration started in 1837, some felt that complied with the Law and some Burial Registers stop. However, when a new Law came in, in 1858 even more Registers were handed over to the Registrar General, which went to the P.R.O., now in TNA, Kew, RG series.
The RG series are on line http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/ I'm not a subscriber, but did do a free search and couldn't find George
Thanks Goughy
Yes, I got that link and tried it, thanks for re-checking though.
Discovered, one of the Yorks Record Offices, have some Dissenters Registers too (for West Yorks), with a complete list and those online are highlighted and those not online can be seen in person.
I was really pleased to see George being elected an Overseer of the Poor in 1838 and hope he was kind and fair to the poor.
We'll visit Yorks again in the Spring.
Kind regards, Mark
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I would do as much research on the Primitive Methodist first earlier than the Selby 1862 chapel. Selby railway next station East was Cliffe (Next Station) where they had a Primative Methodist Chapel and Wesleyan Methodist chapel both built before 1845..The Leeds and Selby Railway was an early British railway company and first mainline railway within Yorkshire. It was opened in 1834 and end on junction at Selby to Hull - Hull and Selby Railway, 1840............Selby Primative Methodist Chapel opened on ground of a former chapel (House maybe) in 1862.
I still can't get my head away from ? as below.
Keep Gateshead in mind as trades for Brewers, Tanners and Coopers for Hoods in Trade directories and later censuses of descendants of Hood's.
You have a death 1845, marriage 1815 age 28 born estimated year 1787 and there is that baptism Gateshead 1786 George son of John Hood and there is nothing on a life of this George from --no infant burial , no marriage, no later after marriage children baptisms or a adult burial in that area of this George Hood bapt 1786.
Richard Gibson affairs as a cooper could have brought George to Selby with later advertising for a cooper post 1800 and another John Hood of Gateshead his father.
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Selby railway next station East was Cliffe (Next Station) where they had a Primative Methodist Chapel and Wesleyan Methodist chapel both built before 1845..The Leeds and Selby Railway was an early British railway company and first mainline railway within Yorkshire.
There are no burial grounds in Cliffe
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Richard Gibson affairs as a cooper could have brought George to Selby with later advertising for a cooper post 1800 and another John Hood of Gateshead his father.
Thanks both,
Downloaded a while back and printed off Gateshead baptism, as a possible.
Richard Gibson, Cooper, of Wren Lane (1800 Directory), re Bankruptcy, the Certificate was issued in 1810. I agree entirely, George Hood must have taken over Gibson's work/ business.
Regards Mark
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Richard Gibson affairs as a cooper could have brought George to Selby with later advertising for a cooper post 1800 and another John Hood of Gateshead his father.
Thanks both,
Downloaded a while back and printed off Gateshead baptism, as a possible.
Richard Gibson, Cooper, of Wren Lane (1800 Directory), re Bankruptcy, the Certificate was issued in 1810. I agree entirely, George Hood must have taken over Gibson's work/ business.
Regards Mark
your quote : above
' the Certificate was issued in 1810 '
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Your stuck without any history of George Hood (died 1845 ) in Selby before pre 1812
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Hi
Just been on FindMyPast looking for the burial of Rev. William Hood L.L., who died at Newark Hospital 17th September 1924. I have made a Clergy Enquiry to the C of E and hopeful they might assist.
You might as well add William to the current 'no known burial list' for the moment!
William Hood born 1849 was the brother of my 2 x Gt. Grandfather George Hood born Selby 1847. William started as a Railway Clerk, eventually moving to Salford where he was a 'Clerk of Holy Orders' and in 1916 moved to Barnby in the Willows, Newark, Notts, as Vicar.
The Nottingham Evening Post 19 September 1924 piece says:-
The death has taken place, at Newark Hospital, of the Rev. Wm. Hood, vicar of Barnby who was in his 76th year. He was taken seriously ill on Tuesday, and preached as recently as Sunday week. He was formerly at Selby and Salford.
Mark
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https://www.sites.google.com/site/hesslelocalhistorysociety/hessle-s-history/hessle-in-1879
By 1846 the brewery had passed to James Hood, a Scot from Dumfries, who also owned a beer house and five inns. Hood ran a beer house and supplied five inns in the district. He was still involved at the Griffin in 1872 but by 1879 his son had taken sole charge.
Among other maltsters, brewers, beer sellers listed in Directories are James Appleton (1857) and Simon Appleton (1823, 1846, 1855), Robert Extoby (1834),George Kirk Forrest (1857), John Oxtoby (1836), Sarah Speck (1855, 1857), George Maw (1888) George Oust (1892), John Berry(1872), George Sneeston (1882), the Dewhirsts (1885, 1892) and the Hoods (1855, 1857, 1872, 1879). In 1857 Thomas Rudston is also recorded as a cooper, or maker of beer barrels.
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Thanks dobfarm
We have been unable to discover any name for George Hood's Selby brewery, despite extensive research to find some 19th Century Selby brewery names including who owned, managed or were connected to each brewery.
The Brewing Industry: A Guide To Historical Records by Lesley Richmond and Alison Turton, published 1990 regarding the Griffin at Selby ...
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_8xRAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=%22James+Oldridge+%26+Son,+Griffin+Brewery%22&source=bl&ots=1tcKsIM5TV&sig=od4yPiWh3X-N0lRotaOmgMvBSJQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwimypPBlL7KAhUEZCYKHQGrCHUQ6AEIGzAA
A really good spot thank you, if George Hood can be linked to your Griffin Brewery, then James Hood could be related.
Regarding the book and John Richardson Ltd., found this ...
No 1331 John Richardson Ltd, brewers, Wide Street Selby. 31/12/1884
capital of 5,000 in 5,000 shares. 3,500 taken by 9 shareholders.
Regards Mark
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Directory of Newcastle upon Tyne & Gateshead, 1801
Robert Hood Liquor and wine merchant
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=728231.387;last_msg=5860818
page 21
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Thanks dobfarm
1804, also found in The Lady's Magazine, or Entertaining Companion ...
30. At Brampton, in the County of Cumberland, the rev. J. Wright, of Hutton, in Dumfriesshire, to miss Hood, daughter of the late rev. Robert Hood, of Newcastle upon Tyne.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=F3kEAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA279&lpg=PA279&dq=%22Hood+of+Newcastle+upon+Tyne%22&source=bl&ots=1sU7y2f2Y5&sig=skFRR-rffvuh9W3rWm6YV-kqNE0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjVo4qKg8LKAhWCQBoKHTLlBScQ6AEIIDAD
Regards Mark
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Richard Hood d 1850 (son of George Hood d 1845) was a grocer who also sold wine and booze also that William Hood Will London who owned a wharf was into selling booze.
Clergy Hood's from Scotland practicing in England !! and your George d 1845 could be a son of a Reverend with family link to booze selling/making---- something to keep in mind.
Cooper barrel making in a brewery concern as part of learning the business
Its thin but the booze aspect seems to be forming a picture with these Hood's in general spread about the country ???
I'll leave you with it now Mark for a while !! as there seems little find online thats not already be. found.
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
Thank you.
The 1826 Selby Baptism of Richard Hood indicates that his father George was a "Retail - Brewer", so George would have had a Brewers License and an Excise Licence and adhere to strict rules about no drinking on, or outside the premises, the fine was £100.
I can recall going to the Pub Off-sales as a boy with Dad, taking the glasses back home with beer in, it was a separate door to the pub and you were served through a window just inside.
Nothing to indicate yet, whether the Hoods of Hessle were related to us. The Partnership between Charles Bartliff and James Goldie Hood of Low Ousegate, York, Wholesale and Retail Wine Merchants was dissolved 7th February 1842.
A little later in 1849 James Goldie Hood is at Hessle with a Tavern, along with Grocer's shop for sale called the "Kingston Arms" in Sculcoates (Parish where John Hood of Selby my 3 times Gt. Grandfather married) and James G Hood held the License until 1854, he was also a Maltster and Brewer. Later he was a farmer and James Goldie Hood of Hessle died 27th July 1876, aged 70.
There was also a Mr F. Hood of Hessle, a Maltster, who sat on the Grand Jury around 1849, according to newspapers.
We want to get back to Yorks in the Spring to trace George's origin, confirm his parentage etc.
Take care, kind regards, Mark
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Mark- Type in Hood and have fun.
England, Durham Probate Bonds, 1556-1858
http://familyrecords.dur.ac.uk/nei/data/simple.php
When get to an image page of wills or doc's type the page number in
Example it will have page 1 of say 615 with arrows either side like 615->
So type say page 15 and click on arrow at side of 615 ->(Click arrow)
Above page number in image click on "England, Durham Probate Bonds, 1556-1858 "
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Hello All
Thanks dobfarm.
According to another FindMyPast scan, of George Hood's marriage at Selby Yorkshire 18 July 1815 (George born Yorks per 1841 Census), a Jane Cockin was one of the Witnesses to their marriage. Because of the lack of a September 1845 Selby Parish burial record, also no baptism record at Selby either, we considered George Hood might be a dissenter, explaining the lack of Hood burials at Selby.
In view of Jane Cockin being a Witness at the 1815 Selby marriage of George Hood and Sarah Russel, I was very interested to discover the reference to Rev. John Cockin of the Independent Chapel, on this thread ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=520384.0
My 3x great grandfather was the Rev John Cockin who was minister at the Lane Independent Chapel at Holmfirth for 43 years from 1806-1849. Although he died in Halifax, he asked to be buried at Holmfirth and the newspaper report of his funeral confirms that he was.
Left me wondering who Jane Cockin, was.
Regards Mark
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Would there be any likely or possible physical meetings of each other in time frame 1786 in place unknown ? to 1812 then 1812 in Selby (or Holmfirth from 1806 ->) to 1845 or direct family connections being between George Hood d 1845 of Selby and Rev Cockin a long term minister of Holmfirth that may suggest anything. ??? ie:- Rev Cockin's roots of place he was brought up.
Bit in this book about Selby and Settle
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=xv5dAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA346&lpg=PA346&dq=rev+john+cockin+selby&source=bl&ots=vsU8k-V10w&sig=3zrPLXXzVzwCJICjIN5msmIl308&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwje6q6b1NnKAhWJoD4KHW5aAsQQ6AEIIzAA#v=onepage&q=rev%20john%20cockin%20selby&f=false
book by Rev Joseph Cockin and son John
https://www.calderdale.gov.uk/wtw/search/controlservlet?PageId=Detail&DocId=100959
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Hello dobfarm and All
Thanks for that Google books link, regarding Rev David Senior being at the Independent Chapel, Selby.
The newspapers also confirm David Senior was at Selby Independent Chapel when George Hood died in September 1845.
When George Hood purchased some of his Wren Lane, Selby, premises from the Manor, the 1835 Sale advert confirms George Hood was a Tenant of one of the Lots being sold and one of George Hood's Undertenants was John Green.
Done a search either side of 1845 with the name David Senior and found this in York Herald 8 April 1848, that the Rev David Senior, Selby Independent married Samuel Wand, linen draper, to Miss Green, eldest daughter of Mr. John Green, all of that place.
Suggesting John Green, possibly the same John Green as George Hood's 1835 Undertenant, was of the Independent Church.
Apparently, c.1839 David Senior Pastor was formerly of Brotherton.
Hull Advertiser Friday 20th June 1845
Another, marriage by Rev David Senior at the Independent Chapel, Selby, mentions Mr Samuel Hutchinson of Bradford, sharebroker, marrying Ellen, daughter of John Adams, Esq., of the former place.
Although George Hood in his Will (1846 Probate) appointed Jonathan Hutchinson as Arbitrator. There was a Jonathan Hutchinson connected with the Society of Friends at Selby.
However, after seeing Samuel Hutchinson of Bradford apparently linked to the Independent Chapel, George Hood's 1846 Probate might be referring to another Jonathan Hutchinson, who was of the Independent Chapel.
'The Legal Observer' Volume 17. November 1838, regarding a Report of the Commissioners on Registers of Births, Marriages and Deaths, Not Parochial.
... has some very interesting general information about the deposited dissenter / non-conformist BMD Registers, apparently some Registers were returned by the Registrar General back to the Chapel, due to insufficient detail, not witnessed etc., so I assume returned Registers may still be with the Chapel, or with the successor church organisation. So if they are not in the RG series at TNA, Registers may still exist ...
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CJRRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA66&lpg=PA66&dq=burials+of+Independents&source=bl&ots=55T27d2hS1&sig=zsa0xCZcv4v4LvfgfIGaotl8DiE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiq0aq7nt3KAhXBG5QKHdS_ChsQ6AEIKjAH
Kind regards, Mark
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1786 to 1812 Stuff or hard facts known
My attention is now on Gateshead with Capt George Hood mariner of South Shields owning property in Cloughton near Scarborough in his Will & the Hood 's at Newburn (Newcastle to Scarborough link- link Scarborough to Selby-Pack boat ships)
May lead nowhere or somewhere ???
Something brought Maudland Hood to Selby from Scarborough and John Hood father a mariner of Scarborough 1775 and marriage 1763 to Elizabeth
Burial 1803 Jane wife (does not say late John Hood) of John Hood the mariner of Selby
John Hood burial 1819 Selby no occupation known ? (must be some info on John between 1803 and 1819 in Selby ???)
Near dockside is Wren lane with George Hood a Cooper 1812 Est birth year age 28 in 1815 marriage to Sarah = born 1786/87
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Thanks dobfarm
I've looked at all those Hood Wills online via the Durham Uni web-site (link in #393). Shame the Borthwick don't have the Yorkshire, Hood, Wills online, in same format, as we ran out of time, to view the whole list of Wills.
William Hood, Selby, died 1870, aged 54 (George and Sarah Hood's son) was a Quaker, so been in touch with York Quakers and they sent me a link to this pdf document, of their Yorkshire burial grounds
http://www.yorkquakers.org.uk/Resources/Burial%20Grounds%202015.pdf
So I'll keep trying and get up to Yorkshire again and Hull (for Mariners records) soon, in the Spring.
Regards Mark
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Thanks dobfarm
I've looked at all those Hood Wills online via the Durham Uni web-site (link in #393). Shame the Borthwick don't have the Yorkshire, Hood, Wills online, in same format, as we ran out of time, to view the whole list of Wills.
William Hood, Selby, died 1870, aged 54 (George and Sarah Hood's son) was a Quaker, so been in touch with York Quakers and they sent me a link to this pdf document, of their Yorkshire burial grounds
http://www.yorkquakers.org.uk/Resources/Burial%20Grounds%202015.pdf
So I'll keep trying and get up to Yorkshire again and Hull (for Mariners records) soon, in the Spring.
Regards Mark
Hi Mark
So if William was a Quaker son of George Hood & Sarah Russell
Sarah HOOD (nee ARUNDEL) and her ancestors. Sarah was born 15th February 1831 at Selby, Yorkshire, England. Her father was John ARUNDEL. Sarah married James HOOD at Selby Abbey on 27-12-1851 and they subsequently moved to Derby, England with their 9 children. Sarah died at Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England on 22-08-1911 and was buried in the Quaker burial ground.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~quakers/qq7-97.htm
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Hi
Just been on FindMyPast looking for the burial of Rev. William Hood L.L., who died at Newark Hospital 17th September 1924. I have made a Clergy Enquiry to the C of E and hopeful they might assist.
You might as well add William to the current 'no known burial list' for the moment!
William Hood born 1849 was the brother of my 2 x Gt. Grandfather George Hood born Selby 1847. William started as a Railway Clerk, eventually moving to Salford where he was a 'Clerk of Holy Orders' and in 1916 moved to Barnby in the Willows, Newark, Notts, as Vicar.
The Nottingham Evening Post 19 September 1924 piece says:-
The death has taken place, at Newark Hospital, of the Rev. Wm. Hood, vicar of Barnby who was in his 76th year. He was taken seriously ill on Tuesday, and preached as recently as Sunday week. He was formerly at Selby and Salford.
Mark
Hello dobfarm
Thanks for that link, it seems none of the Selby Hoods, want to reveal their last resting place, or burial information!
Willam Hood (baptised Selby 1816), Quaker
Regarding William Hood, Selby, d.1870, aged 54, a Quaker, the Quakers response from York, highlighted that pdf doc., so I have emailed the specific Quaker burials, email address.
William Hood (born Selby 1849), C of E
Regarding the Reverend William Hood (son of my 3 X Gt. Grandfather John Hood, Tanner of Selby), I have a reply from Lambeth Palace ...
No burial information!
HOOD William
Barnby Vicarage Newark, Notts 1916
Gross Inc. 280 l, Net 262 l and Ho; Pop. 225.
St Matthias, Salford, 1909 - 1916
St Bart. Bolton, Lancs., 1904 - 1909
Compstall, 1901 - 1904
Harpurhey 1895 - 1901
C of St. Barn. Man 1891 - 1895
St Bees 1890
There are some symbols and other Val. in l., Bp. of Man., information
St Bees was a Theological College.
London Gazette 14 December, 1926 page 8223
Reverend William Hood, Deceased.
Solicitors Notice by T. A. Needham, Solicitor and Administrator, of Manchester, regarding the distribution of his estate.
says he was late of the Vicarage, Barnby-in-the-Willows, Newark, Notts.
died 17th September 1924.
I was rather hoping that one of these two William Hood characters (both born Selby, bap.1816 & b.1849), might be buried in a Family plot somewhere and their burial information, lead me to the last resting place of the other Selby Hoods, including, hopefully more family information! But their burials, at the moment are also elusive!
Kind regards, Mark
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Hi Mark
(A descendant downstream twig off shoot course of life )
I would think the Rev William Hood b 1849 being his own choice of residential lifetime locations as well as his burial place would have came about through his job or vocation being George Hood d 1845 was dead & buried before Rev William was born 1849 and these locations had nothing to do with any George Hood d 1845 - pre 1812 residences or birth place 1787 ish or his burial place 1845.
Important info - Rev Willaim Hood was C of E not a Quaker
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Hello Goughy and dobfarm
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Collinson to Elly - Ann Elly, Spinster of the City of York and George Hood of Selby
The second Deed, now being re-read indicates Petre [Lord of the Manor], has apparently sold the property called Ousegate to James Collinson of Selby and a William Collinson and George Hood of Selby and Ann Elly, a Spinster of the City of York and Edward [?] of Selby.
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Regards Mark
I am beginning to wonder if there was any family relationship between Hood of Selby and James Collinson, or whether it was business only?
I believe I am discovering more about the 1838 Deed (mentioning George Hood), sold along with an 1864 Trust Deed, which I missed on ebay a few years back (now described very briefly on Worthpoint).
Leeds Intelligencer 2nd August 1851.
DEATHS
Selby ... On the 26th ult., aged 72, Mr James Collinson, cordwainer.
I can't get to the Library and wondered where James Collinson was born in the 1851 Census, please?
York Herald Saturday 9th July 1864.
Valuable freeholds in Selby being sold by Auction by Order of the Trustee under the Will of Mr James Collinson, deceased
Properties listed ...
Particulars may be had on application to Mr William Hood, of Wren Lane, The Trustee
Is James Collinson's Will listed under the York Wills (at Borthwick), or listed under Wakefield, please?
I have seen the listing of the Will of John Hood Tanner of Selby (Wakefield, I think from memory), although this is later than George Hood's 1846 Probate, I will order these.
There is an unconfirmed, (which I do not know if true, or not), suggestion online, that a Jane Collinson married a Thomas Hood 1850 and Jane died in 1851. It is also suggested (don't know if true, or not) that Jane Collinson was the daughter of William Collinson born Middleton in Teesdale 20 November 1799?
Whether, this online site, is just making a load of random suggestions, I don't know?
But, it has left me wondering if there is a Hood / Collinson link, which could give me an unknown Hood and whether these Collinson's have a link with Selby.
Kind regards Mark
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Is there a year to this John Hood Tanner Selby Will held at Wakefield or did you mean a John Hood ? mariner 1819 Will Selby at Wakefield
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Is there a year to this John Hood Tanner Selby Will held at Wakefield or did you mean a John Hood ? mariner 1819 Will Selby at Wakefield
Hello dobfarm
I wish. The microfilmed book of Selby Wills was also checked at Borthwick, no 1819 Hood, Will listed :(
No, I meant John Hood, Tanner of Selby, who died 1860 (my 3 X Gt. Grandfather).
There is possibly something going on, with the late James Collinson (died Selby, aged 72, on 26 July 1851 per newspaper) AND Hood of Selby, for William Hood of Wren Lane, to hold Collinson's property in Trust until 1864?
I have to see if any possible Hood - Collinson family link, even if it goes nowhere.
James Collinson died just after the 1851 Census, also wondered where he was born, in Census please?
Regards Mark
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Hi Both
James Collinson was born born in Selby circa 1789 (buried Selby. Wife Elizabeth Marsh (married 1814 Selby) Will details held at Borthwick
Document type Will
Document reference vol.225, f.1500
Index reference 1851121853080057/4
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Hi Both
James Collinson was born born in Selby circa 1789 (buried Selby. Wife Elizabeth Marsh (married 1814 Selby) Will details held at Borthwick
Document type Will
Document reference vol.225, f.1500
Index reference 1851121853080057/4
Hello Goughy
Thanks for the information, I've got a few bits to order from the Borthwick.
"HULL, Jan. 10, 1814.
Ship News.
The brig Brothers, Collinson, of Scarbro', was taken off Beachy-head, on 21st ult. by French privateer, but afterwards abandoned by prize crew, and is arrived at Scarbro'. There were three privateers off Beachy-head when the Brothers was taken."
According to the Marriages in the Hull Packet 8th February 1814 (only part viewable), On Wednesday last, at the Holy Trinity ... this town, Mr Robert Collinson, mas ... Brothers of Scarbro', to Miss Ann Stavely ... Mrs E. Stavely, of Pocklington.
Also repeated in the Stamford Mercury under Lincoln ...
On the 2d inst. at Hull, Mr. Robert Collinson, master of the brig Brothers, of Scarbro', to Miss Ann Stavely, daughter of Mrs. E. Stavely, of Pocklington.
Seems, there was a Robert Collinson, a Master, with a connection to Scarborough, like John Hood.
Kind regards, Mark
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Mark
Its free this weekend on An*estry website
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There is a sting scenario in the tale and strong medicine (from true facts)
Need to check the marriage 1769 out to see if this John Hood was a mariner
John Hood married Jane Bell 18 May 1769 in Alnwick, Northumberland .
Jane Hood d 1803 age 65 = b 1738 husband John Hood a mariner (reason to travel)
- John Hood d 1819 age 82 = b 1737 both died Selby (harbour)
near by Alnmouth has a harbour (Packboats)
George Hood b 1786 Gateshead father John Hood another harbour
George Hood married 1815 aged 28 = b 1787
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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=IKuAlxnCHgwC&pg=PA19&lpg=PA19&dq=marriage+bond+allegation+northumberland&source=bl&ots=X4w0edWw7f&sig=p6dbCqJGJcPic5i8ktFd8ej4vPM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiqyfTF243LAhXFvBQKHXfjBDQ4ChDoAQgnMAE#v=onepage&q=marriage%20bond%20allegation%20northumberland&f=false
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy Bumblebee and All
Thank you for the suggestions.
The Selby Land Tax of 1781 indicates a J Hood and later a Mr Hood was an 'Occupier' of a Tenement at Selby, if John Hood was a dissenter around that time, it could be that "George Hood of Selby" (marr. Selby 1815) was linked to this John Hood and actually born Selby, but not baptised by the Church and therefore no baptism/birth record in the Selby Parish Register.
I get the impression that some dissenters might have changed faiths, John Hood buried Selby 1819 could have gone back to Selby Parish Church, or his burial was permitted, whereas George may have had another faith. I am led to believe that some non-conformist records acquired by Archives, may not be online.
Maudland Hood married Selby 1794 (alias Morland and Mordland Turner after her marriage) was born/baptised Scarborough daughter of John Hood of Selby, mariner, married to Elizabeth Spencer and linked to John Spencer of Scarborough, according to the birth of Charles and Morland Turner's first child at Selby.
We intend to come to Hull soon and see what John Hood/s we can find in the Mariners records they hold, also they have some Selby Manor records, as George was a Tenant of Lord Petrie at Selby in 1812 and some records of Selby Abbey to see if dissenters are mentioned. I want to rule out the Burial Indexes of the large Hull Cemeteries, as a John Hood sailed out of Hull a fair bit. We also want to see what the Scarborough Mariner records they hold too, at Hull History Centre, before spreading the net over a wider area.
Thanks for you continued interest and suggestions, but I also want to search John Hood of Selby Mariner, married to Jane buried Selby 1803.
Kind regards, Mark
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We know George Hood d 1845 could write as marriage 1815 register & bond allegation, the only school in Selby around 1785 seems to be a charity school which ran from 1758 to 1802 and admissions to the school held at WYAS Leeds
http://catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=LC01809&pos=21
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In the 18th century Selby, long a river port of no little consequence, became something of a transport hub, thought to have handled some 500 seagoing ships amounting to more than 300,000 tonnes of cargo per annum in its heyday.
A lot of mariners (Sailors) must visited Selby 18th century
http://www.information-britain.co.uk/history/town/Selby40/
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy Bumblebee and All
Thank you for the suggestions.
The Selby Land Tax of 1781 indicates a J Hood and later a Mr Hood was an 'Occupier' of a Tenement at Selby, if John Hood was a dissenter around that time, it could be that "George Hood of Selby" (marr. Selby 1815) was linked to this John Hood and actually born Selby, but not baptised by the Church and therefore no baptism/birth record in the Selby Parish Register.
I get the impression that some dissenters might have changed faiths, John Hood buried Selby 1819 could have gone back to Selby Parish Church, or his burial was permitted, whereas George may have had another faith. I am led to believe that some non-conformist records acquired by Archives, may not be online.
Maudland Hood married Selby 1794 (alias Morland and Mordland Turner after her marriage) was born/baptised Scarborough daughter of John Hood of Selby, mariner, married to Elizabeth Spencer and linked to John Spencer of Scarborough, according to the birth of Charles and Morland Turner's first child at Selby.
We intend to come to Hull soon and see what John Hood/s we can find in the Mariners records they hold, also they have some Selby Manor records, as George was a Tenant of Lord Petrie at Selby in 1812 and some records of Selby Abbey to see if dissenters are mentioned. I want to rule out the Burial Indexes of the large Hull Cemeteries, as a John Hood sailed out of Hull a fair bit. We also want to see what the Scarborough Mariner records they hold too, at Hull History Centre, before spreading the net over a wider area.
Thanks for you continued interest and suggestions, but I also want to search John Hood of Selby Mariner, married to Jane buried Selby 1803.
Kind regards, Mark
Hi Mark,
To add to above :
With both Jane Hood buried 1803 also assume her husband John Hood a mariner was of the same religion also John Hood who died 1819 if was same John Hood aforesaid all from Selby are registered as C of E Anglican at burial
If John Hood the mariner husband of Jane Hood burial 1803 would be at sea a lot, its doubtful he would have been deeply involved in his religion to chop and change, also if George was his son ? all indication are George Hood d 1845 was brought up C of E by Anglican register entries of his family.
If George Hood born approx 1780 to 1787 - married Anglican C of E 1815, died GRO 1845 Selby and Sarah Hood (nee Russell his wife) died 1879 GRO. Aforesaid George & Sarah Hood baptized their known children as C of E Anglican and seems to me any desertion by George hood d 1845 to nonconformity must come late in his life if ever ? is after his last child baptism C of E.
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We know George Hood d 1845 could write as marriage 1815 register & bond allegation, the only school in Selby around 1785 seems to be a charity school which ran from 1758 to 1802 and admissions to the school held at WYAS Leeds
http://catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=LC01809&pos=21
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In the 18th century Selby, long a river port of no little consequence, became something of a transport hub, thought to have handled some 500 seagoing ships amounting to more than 300,000 tonnes of cargo per annum in its heyday.
A lot of mariners (Sailors) must visited Selby 18th century
http://www.information-britain.co.uk/history/town/Selby40/
Hello dobfarm
Thanks for the replies and link, to the description below ...
SELBY. ADMISSION REGISTER AND ACCOUNT BOOK OF A CHARITY SCHOOL FUNDED BY THE AMICABLE SOCIETY (WYL703) 1758 to 1802.
I am wondering if the above was also the Bluecoats School, Selby, at some point.
Hull History Centre have some Mariner information and some of the vessels sailing Selby to Hull, with Masters apparently listed in their circa 1790s copy of the Universal British Directory under Hull. There is a 1795 Register at Hull.
Regarding Ann Collinson of Selby The Leeds Mercury 30 June 1838 says ...
Same day, at Bethesda Chapel, Selby, by the Rev. John Robertson, Mr. Wm. Midgley, to Miss Ann Collinson, both of Selby. This being the first marriage in that chapel, the parties were presented with a copy of Bagster's Polyglott Bible.
Regarding James Collinson of Selby a Cordwainer, who died July 1851, aged 72, he was a Cordwainer / Shoemaker, so George Hood / John Hood, Tanners - James Collinson (Shoemaker) link at Selby, may have been business only, although William Hood of Wren Lane, Selby was a Trustee of James Collinson's Will according to the later July 1864 Sale of properties at Selby.
I am putting the Collinson information on here, hoping that a Collinson family history searcher, may have come across George Hood of Selby (Tanner) my 4 X Gt. Grandfather, who had also acquired property at Selby from James Collinson and others.
The Deeds sold on ebay about 2013 (which I missed) had an 1838 list of properties George Hood was to buy or lease and was coincidentally sold with an 1864 Trust Deed.
John Hood, Selby, Tanner, [my 3 X Gt. Grandfather] was appointed with others to serve on the Grand Jury announced in the Leeds Intelligencer 10 April 1852, p.6.
Kind regards, Mark
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George Hood death 1845 - He learned to write somewhere, was astute in business and learned trades with hands
The Bluecoats boys (20 boys selby)
The Amicable Society at Selby (established in 1748) has identified itself with the Bluecoat School,
http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/The_History_and_Antiquities_of_the_Parish_of_Heminbrough_in_the_County_1000809266/295
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=CC05AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA89&lpg=PA89&dq=AMICABLE+SOCIETY+++selby+school&source=bl&ots=vt1Jowo220&sig=M2BQdMSVfnCwPRzPHtYHUjcVaX0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjNvcuEn5bLAhUFVxQKHVHbC6AQ6AEINDAD#v=onepage&q=AMICABLE%20SOCIETY%20%20%20selby%20school&f=false
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Thanks dobfarm
Looking at these Selby School records are a must! Good spot, thank you.
Agree, George Hood of Selby can sign his name well and appears to be educated.
If John Hood, Master of a vessel, was his father, I expect he would be educated, as navigation around the coasts to Ireland required Mathematical skills, to calculate, distances, direction, wind speed and drift of the vessel.
Regarding James Collinson, I found this ...
York Herald - 23 August 1851 and 6 September 1851
To be Let, a Dwelling House, Shop and Other Premises behind, well situated in the town of Selby, wherein the business of a Boot and Shoemaker has been successfully carried on for upwards of Twenty years by the late Mr. James Collinson. For particulars, apply to Mrs Collinson, on the Premises; or Mr. Wm. Hood, Selby.
The remaining portion of the stock may be taken at valuation or not.
I get the feeling that George Hood, Tanner, probably supplied James Collinson, Boot and Shoemaker of Selby, with leather.
Also discovered 12 August 1870, Leeds Mercury, when Mrs Hood, offered for sale to Curriers and Leather Cutters, William Hood's business, which also said ... N.B. Also a Malt Kiln which might be used as a Warehouse. Apply to Mrs Wm. Hood, Wren Lane, Selby.
This William Hood (George Hood's son) had died in 1870, aged 54, listed as a Quaker.
Kind regards Mark
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Hi Mark
When looking at marine records, all we know was Jane Hood burial 1803 husband was a mariner and no mention of being a captain or master mariner -so don't rule out this John Hood could have been a deckhand or ordinary rating sailor.......
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Hello dobfarm
Thanks, I will look for, Masters, Sailors, Deck hands, links to Selby, Scarborough, Hull, Sunderland, Gateshead, Durham, Newcastle, etc.
I will look out for the John Hood, Captain / Master in the following thread, to see if he was a different John Hood ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.0
These Selby School Admissions at WYAS are a must, first, to see if they confirm, if George Hood went to that School at Selby as a boy.
Kind regards, Mark
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One other thing that still bothers me is the age difference in John and George Hood
John Hood b 1737
George Hood b 1787 ish
50 years difference in age (could be John was George's granddad)
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Another after thought ?
If John Hood was a captain ? it likely he was educated with a decent IQ , thus his marriage(s) register copy to Elizabeth Spencer and possible later John Hood a widower ? 2nd wife Elizabeth Leppington marriage may show his signature style ** or left his mark X, also would indicate to a point his status of IQ at sea or inland waterway navigations as a mariner.
** Signature style - ~ - scratchy child like scroll writing not use to writing a lot or swarve with positive style to indicate personality of confidence.
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Elizabeth Spencer and Elizabeth Leppington we thought are "one of the same". Elizabeth Spencer married John Leppington, and then John Hood (although marriage register doesn't give any details of marital status or occupation). The signature is definitely a positive style.
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The headache is who the heck was Jane Hood burial 1803 Selby wife of John Hood the mariner.
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Hello Goughy and dobfarm
Regarding 1838, George Hood, George Hood of Selby, Brewer (possibly the same George Hood) and James Collinson appear to own many properties in Ousegate. The document refers to properties built and improved by Samuel Nicholson Innkeeper, a further 9 newly errected properties, eight cottages and 14 other properties in Ousegate Selby and a 4 acre piece of the Outwoods of Selby and 2 pews in the Parish Church.
Document, is a bit complex for me to fully understand, but George Hood must have been quite well off and James Collinson of Selby having enough income/wealth to enter into this transaction.
In the Registry it would appear properties were transferring to James Collinson and the entry has been Signed and Sealed by George Hood L.S. [apparently meaning Locus Sigilli, the Seal of George Hood] in the presence of Henry Birkinshaw and John Luke Haigh.
Those involved are:-
Bridget Nicholson of Rawcliffe Widow of Samuel Nicholson late of the same place Innkeeper deceased
Samuel Nicholson of Rawcliffe the only son and Heir at Law of the said Samuel Nicholson deceased
Samuel Smith of Armin Pastures in the County of York Gentleman
George Smith of Goole in the County of York Surgeon
the sons of George Smith of Armin Pastures Farmer
William Bowland late of Rawcliffe in the Parish of Snaith, Farmer
Abraham Hodgson of Kingston upon Hull, Gentleman
Hannah Carter Clark of Howden only child and Heiress at Law of John Clark late of Potter Grange in the Township of Airmin in the County of York
William Mitton late of Selby but now of Stamford in the County of Lincoln Gentleman
James Collinson of Selby, Shoemaker
George Hood
Edward Parker of same place Gentleman
Ousegate properties belonging to several parties were transferring to James Collinson. George Hood L.S. signing the entry in the Property Register, also affixing his Seal in the original document (pictured by my user name on Rootschat). [This was possibly why William Hood (George Hood's son) was a sole Trustee to James Collinson's Will].
A general note, that according to the London Gazette, Whitehall, March 18, 1814 William Mitton of Selby was appointed by the Lord Chancellor to be Master Extraordinary of the High Court of Chancery.
Kind regards Mark
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Grave of Mrs Jane Hood of Selby
London Gazette Notice 2 December 1887
Now, therefore, Her Majesty, by and with the
advice of Her Privy Council, is pleased to order,
and it is hereby ordered, that no new burial-ground
shall be opened in the undermentioned parishes
without the previous approval of one of Her
Majesty's Principal Secretaries of State, and that
burials in the said parishes shall be discontinued,
as follows, viz.:—
SELBY SAINT JAMES.—Forthwith and entirely
in the Friends' Meeting House, in the parish
of Saint James, Selby; and also in the burial-
ground, except for the burial of Mrs. Jane
Hood, at her decease.
It would appear that the right to bury Mrs Jane Hood of Selby was protected?
EDIT:- Searched Jane Hood deaths (until 1930) and there was a Jane Casson Hood aged 76, registered in the District of Selby, March Qtr 1894.
Jane C. Hood, Selby, 76, 1894, Widow of William Hood is listed in The Annual Monitor published 1895, whereas George Hood dying 1845 is not listed in the edition for 1845, so even if her burial record was found, it may not find the missing Hood burials.
Kind regards Mark
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Hello Goughy and dobfarm
Regarding 1838, George Hood, George Hood of Selby, Brewer (possibly the same George Hood) and James Collinson appear to own many properties in Ousegate. The document refers to properties built and improved by Samuel Nicholson Innkeeper, a further 9 newly errected properties, eight cottages and 14 other properties in Ousegate Selby and a 4 acre piece of the Outwoods of Selby and 2 pews in the Parish Church.
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In the Registry it would appear properties were transferring to James Collinson and the entry has been Signed and Sealed by George Hood L.S. [apparently meaning Locus Sigilli, the Seal of George Hood] in the presence of Henry Birkinshaw and John Luke Haigh.
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Just added the bit about John Luke Haigh
Summarising the obituary of The Law Society Journal of Jan. 24, 1891, said that Mr. John Luke Haigh, solicitor, of Selby, died on December 5th, at the age of ninety. He was articled to Mr Edward Parker of Selby, and admitted a Solicitor in the Easter Term 1840. Mr Haigh joined the Wesleyan Methodists about sixty years ago, and became an active member of that body and a local preacher. ... He leaves three daughters and two sons. ... He was buried on the 10th ult. at the quiet little churchyard of Brayton, near his residence, ...
So one of the 1838 witnesses to George Hood's Signature and Seal was a Wesleyan Methodist.
Kind regards, Mark
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Only Hood Listed index page 210- Quaker Index book 1813 to 1892
William Hood died Selby 1870 aged 54 ~ Annual Volume Book date 1871 page 32
https://archive.org/details/quakerrecordsbe00greegoog
I think you can rule George Hood death 1845 Selby out as a Quaker
Most likely wife Jane C Hood was the Quaker before marriage and adapted her husband William Hood into the faith after marriage
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Hi Mark
I have been to Leeds (WYAS) archives this morning to look at the Selby Charity School accounts and admissions Book 1758 to 1802.- WYL 703
There are plenty of adult names & school children aged 6 to 10 year olds and later apprenticeships but unfortunately there were no children or adults surnamed Hood in the book .
I double checked this very deeply detailed book over 3 hours this morning which covered a lot of towns people of Selby in the time period of the book.
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( Are we being distracted by her) Maudland Hood married in Selby links to Scarborough
(Is she the key ???) Jane Hood burial 1803 Selby *Jane 'Who' Husband John the mariner
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Hello Dave
Thank you, that was most kind of you to visit and have a look at the School Register.
I had emailed Leeds last week and was awaiting a reply.
In the Selby land tax records from 1781 a "J. Hood" and then a "Mr Hood" is an occupier of a Tenement at Selby until 1802, then a gap of the Hood surname in the Selby Land Tax until 1812.
The Selby Window Tax of 1788 was also searched carefully and no Hood was listed, suggesting the building had no windows. I thought about this again today - what if this tenement was a warehouse within the riverside area classed as the Port of Selby.
Newspaper search has found this ... Leeds Mercury 4th April 1829
Thursday, April 2 Special Jury.
HULL DOCK COMPANY v. BROWN
All the custom house regulations at Hull proceeded on a supposition that all places within the river Ouse as far as Selby, were within the Port of Hull, and even the City of York itself, was described, in old writings, as a creek in the port of Hull.
... vessels from Selby, Gainsbro', and other intermediate places, were all registered as being of the port of Hull.
If George Hood's father was John Hood, mariner of Selby and after reading the above, then we must come up to the Hull Archives, which we are planning.
The second point, is that when George Hood appears in the Selby Land Tax of 1812, the names of two other characters appear with George Hood. However, the Selby Land Tax records are in order alphabetically by Occupier, rather than building order.
These three chaps, seem to appear at Selby in the same Land Tax year. However, they may not have arrived together, or even be in the same premises, due to L.Tax being in occupier surname order. ...
Howden George
Howing William
Hood George
W & G Hawden is listed as a Brewer at Selby in 1847, seeking a Brewer, who understands the business and has good references, suggesting they may have been brewing a while, be retiring now and want someone to take over their brewing buziness.
I am wondering if there might be a link, Hood the Cooper who was a Brewer by 1826 when Richard Hood was baptised and surname Howden / Hawden (if they are the same person).
The third point is that some Independent / non-conformist Chapels referred to having their own schools in the early 19th Century, which left me wondering if they had schools earlier. Also there were several private Tutors at Selby.
Sadly, we don't have a Selby record linking my George Hood at Selby to another place, or anyone else (only links to his offspring).
Thank you and kind regards, Mark
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Hello Dave, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
This is only an OCR version and a scan of the original is really required, but it seems to link some of the Hood families in Yorkshire, to Lincolnshire and Berwickshire.
http://www.forgottenbooks.com/readbook_text/A_Genealogical_and_Heraldic_Dictionary_of_the_Landed_Gentry_of_Great_1000731022/571
1 A. Using the British Newspaper Archive, Wells Hood - Wine and Sprit Merchant of Mint Yard, York, can be linked to Richard Hood Wine Merchant of Stamford Bridge.
Also Wells Hood, has acquired property from Joseph Rowntree of York, per online catalogue of the Hull History Centre
1841
U DDFA/13/404 Abstract of Deed of Renunciation: Joseph Rowntree grocer to Wells Hood wine merchant both of York. Trusteeship under Will of Will. Scholefield of York innkeeper.
1 B. Will of Richard Hood of Catwick Oct 1816 my son Richard Hood of Stamford Bridge, Grocer ... daughter Hannah Quadell of the same place ... my son William Hood of Catwick ...
2. In previous posts you looked into John Hardcastle Jackson married to Ann Hood at Catton in 1818, (due to a John Jackson and a Richard Jackson of Selby).
Yorkshire Gazette 24 February 1849, I have found the Inquest report of John Hardcastle Jackson aged 53 years, a Lock Keeper at Stamford Bridge and he accidentally drowned at Stamford Bridge, it was thought crossing a lock gate. His wife raised the alarm when he failed to return home after having a drink and he was found the next morning in the canal, near a lock gate, that he likely crossed.
So John Hardcastle Jackson at death, was not a Currier or Tanner.
3. Hood of Baldersby has transacted with Joseph Leadley in 1810 and might possibly be linked to John Leadlay of Cloughton and the Hood - Leadley, both in the Scalby Monumental Inscriptions and/or John Leadley son of John Hood of Nettleham according to a family notice - York Herald 25 February 1837
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=736364.0
1810
U DDFA/8/108 Copy Reconveyance: William Wright and John Hood to Joseph Leadley (all as U DDFA/8/83) on redemption of mortgage as U DDFA/8/83.
1794
U DDFA/8/83 Copy Lease and Release: for £1417.9s.: Mark Hesp and Matthew Bottrill to Joseph Leadley of Grey Leas yeoman and wife Ann
Farm, part of Gray Leas: which is then mortgaged to William Wright jnr., and John Hood of Baldersby Gents.
4 A. In 1830 Skipwith Hall, near Selby was being let by John Hood of Nettleham, Lincolnshire.
4 B. This is new, but the other day, I discovered that a bankruptcy case appears to mention John Hood of Nettleham with John Fothergill of Selby, but I have not yet searched for other information about this ...
The Law Journal for the Year 1832-1949:
January 1844 ...
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=j4YDAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA2-PA5&lpg=RA2-PA5&dq=%22John+Hood%22+Fothergill+Selby&source=bl&ots=Mg2JAr_EJ6&sig=h5lpZ7F4Zt59sLdY85gxV3arytk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj128nuj7jLAhUEBBoKHZzeDjYQ6AEIJzAC
4 C. However, according to the poor OCR (link at the top) a GRACE FOTHERGILL was also married into the family of John Hood of Nettleham, again it might be a coincidence, but there is this HOOD - FOTHERGILL link.
Also the 1844 John Hood case (4 B. above) links to John Fothergill of Selby.
4 D. Incidentally, rgarding a Yafforth Sale in the Yorkshire Gazette 28 July 1827 a Mr John Fothergill, of Aiskew near Bedale "will shew the Estate" , Messrs Blanchard and Richardson Solicitors York and Messrs Maugham and Fothergill of 17 Great James Street, Bedford-row London were also mentioned in the sale advert regarding the selling of the 353 acre Estate at Yafforth, occupied mainly by Mr John Hood Tenant according to the 1827 Sale Notice.
General Note ... Other newspaper family notices link Hood of Nettleham to various Yorkshire places and John Hood aged 63 was born Yorkshire Kirkbridge in the Parish of Bead?? [Parish of Bedale], according to an 1851 Census for Nettleham.
General Note
I'll add dates and other info later to the above, but these points came into my mind altogether, as I have been going through my notes again and I felt I ought to get them down.
Nothing as yet, directly to my George Hood of Selby, though.
i) However, these Hood of Yorkshire and Nettleham - Fothergill links appearing and the John Hood of Nettleham - John Fothergill of Selby Bankruptcy case, came to my attention.
ii) I even wondered if George Hood of Selby was illegitimate, or had an alias surname at birth, e.g. Leadley?
iii) George Hood (d. Sep 1845), Six of his adult children and finally Sarah Hood his wife (d. Nov 1879) dying at Selby and not being buried at Selby Abbey Church (or Selby Cemetery) has always been a big question, especially when Jane Hood (1803) and John Hood (1819) were buried at Selby.
Kind regards Mark
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Crude summaries of two Hood Wills of Baldersby / Topcliffe
Will of John Hood of Baldersby 1794 (proved Topcliffe) my dear wife Elizabeth ... real estate situate within the township of Crake hall ... now in the possession of my son William Hood or his assigns ... my brother in Law William Wright of Baldersby ... my daughter Ann the wife of Thomas Cooper ... Annuity out of my said real Estate at Crakehall aforesaid upon trust ... payments ... my said daughter Ann ... to be paid and equally divided amongst all the children of my said Daughter Ann ... I give and devise unto my son William Hood All that my estate situate within the Township of Crake Hall aforesaid as the same is now in his possession ... my said son John shall continue Tenant to the Farm he now rents under his Grace the Duke of Devonshire at Baldersby aforesaid ... Load of coals from Ulierley Pitts ... son in Law Thomas Cooper ... Daughter Ann Cooper his wife ... 3 December 1792 ... Seal April 1794
Will of John Hood of Baldersby October 1814 Topcliffe
I John Hood of Baldersby in the Parish of Topcliffe in the County of York Gentleman ... my dear wife Ruth Hood the Tenant right of my farm ... I give to my daughter Mary the wife of William Morley of the City of London ... £250 ... ref to my present farm at Baldersby ... Estate at Aisenby in the Parish of Topcliffe ... various references to changes in the Will, if remarriage occurs In trust for my three daughters Mary Elizabeth and Ann share and share alike ... at the age of 21 years ... Mary now wife of William Morley she (having already attained the age of twenty one ... John Dale of Skelton Gentleman mentioned William Wright of Baldersby aforesaid Gentleman ... 15 July 1811
Witnesses Jno Coates, Willm Spence, George Christian Clarke pass'd 5 October 1814
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Jane Hood (who) burial 1803 and John Hood burial 1819 both born approx. circa 1737 with a 50 year gap [Highly likely a generation gap] to George Hood born circa 1786 ish death Selby 1845 could be grandparents of George.
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Jane Marshall X John Hood marriage Pickering again could be grandparents of circa George b1786
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Jane Bell X John Hood Northumberland, maybe grandparents of George Hood baptism 1786 Gateshead
Thus George could have been schooled/apprenticed, in Scarborough, Hull, Pickering or Gateshead/Newcastle ('Packboat John Hood' the mariner or his son as George's father)
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Hello Dave
Thank you.
Yes, the Pickering area is another HOOD cluster.
Hood's Pickering area:-
John Hood, Cornmiller, Costa Mill (alias Hood's Mill), Pickering 1823 Gazeteer Directory.
Middleton, John Hood, a bleacher (1807 Poll Book - Pickering Lythe)
Sinnington, Robert Hood, farmer (1807 Poll Book - Pickering Lythe)
Kirby Misperton 18th Cent.
Edstone, Stephen Hood, Yeoman (1807 Poll Book - Rydale), also earlier, late 18th Century reference.
Ryton 1815 Will
Old Malton
New Malton
Langton by Malton
Settrington, Parish Register
Roger Hood of Selby Will 1727 - amongst the collection of Langton Hall (South of Malton), now in Archive.
Kirkbymoorside
Appleton le Street
Helmsley Blackmoor 1797 (which I presume is Helmsley on A170, West of Pickering)
York paper cat. - Amongst the Bishops Registers 'Register Vernon'
Reg 39, 60v - Will of Ann Marshall of Pickering widow, proved 6 Sept 1809 (listed, but not seen)
Also, another (we ran out of time), Will of Richard Hood, Dec 1802, Kirkby Misperton, V.146, fol.412.
Will of John Hood, June 1815 Kirkby Misperton
I John Hood of Ryton in the County of York Jobber ... my daughter Mary Sunley ... my daughter Ann Gawbry ...my daughter Jane Hodgson ... my daughter Elizabeth Abbot ... and lastly ... I appoint my son Robert Hood and my Son-in-Law Thomas Harrison Sole Executors ... 11th September 1814
Witnessed Rob't Drake, Richard Fox pass'd 5th June 1815
Will of Ann Hood, 1782 New Malton
I Ann Hood of New Malton in the County of York Spinster ... I give and bequeath unto Christopher Stamper of New Malton ... I give and bequeath unto my Nephews and Nieces John, Stephen Harinase [Harinafe or Harinase] ... Elizabeth, Dorothy, Ann and Margaret Stamper ... Nieces Elizabeth Ann and Dorothy Nawton ... Niece Elizabeth Nawton ... Niece Hannah Stamper ... I give and bequeath unto my Cousin Charles Hood ... All that my Messuage Tenement or Dwellinghouse situate in a street called Low Street in New Malton ... now in the occupation of Thomas Nawton as Tenant ... give unto William Stamper and Ann Walton ... said Charles Hood and Elizabeth Stamper Widow ... Charles Hood and Elizabeth Stamper Widow Joint Executors.
Witnesses Jas Preston, Wm Preston, Henry Taylor. Pass'd January 1782
Will of Charles Hood December 1784
Refers to the Tenement, with Barn, Stable and Yard in Low Street, New Malton, occupied by John Sewir, or Lewir and James Gray. Great Nephew was Thomas Fewui or Fewvi, eldest son of Elizabeth.
The only surname recognised in John Hood's 1814/1815 Will, summarised on this post, was HODGSON.
The Hodgson surname appears in the 1838 Selby property Deed mentioning George Hood and the parties in the 1838 Selby property Deed are listed in my reply #63.
However, there were other Kirby Misperton, Helmsley Blackmoor Wills, New Malton Hood Will and 1 Admin - not seen.
Kind regards Mark
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Have you got or read this Will below
George Hood d 1845 was a just a cooper barrel maker workman by 1815 married Sarah Russel
Then George seems to be in the dosh as a business owner later owner of deeds/property/land
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Sarah Russel baptism 30 September 1793 Selby father William -mother Mary
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William Russell born 1738 died/burial Wistow 1815
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York Peculiars Probate Index, 1383-1883
William Russell 1815 Will
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/world-records/york-peculiars-probate-index-1383-1883?firstname=william&firstname_variants=true&lastname=russell
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Thank you
None of the following Yorkshire Wills /Probate link to Hood of Selby:-
George Hood 1835 Kirby Hill [near Boroughbridge]
John Hood 1793 Scalby [of Stainton Dale]
Ann Hood 1799 Kingston upon Hull (late of Morton Lincs, reference to Gainsbro [Gainsborough] and she was to be interred at Gainsbrough). Reference to a Mrs Atkinson of The Levells, Lincs., [info for Goughy].
Robert Hood August 1835 of Nottingham
Richard Hood Oct 1816 Catwick
John Hood June 1815 Kirkby Misperton
John Hood Oct 1814 Topcliffe [of Baldersby]
John Hood April 1794 [of Baldersby]
Margaret Hood June 1795 Howden [late of Howden, but now of Bubwith]
Ann Hood 1782 New Malton
James Hood Dec 1782 [James Hood in the Parish of Scarborough]
Mary Hood July 1782 Pontefract
Mary Hood May 1795 of Walkeringham Nottinghamshire.
Incidentally, entered separately below in the Register (separate entry, of the one above) was a Probate for a 'Mawhood' of Isleworth in H.M. 72nd Regt of Foot 1770, mainly bequeathed to Francis WOOD.
Charles Hood Dec 1794 New Malton
Matthew Hood Aug 1785 Curation and an Admon, died intestate with child ("a minor aged above Twelve years") August 1785 Bossall, but entered in the Bulmer area book. Matthew Hood was late of Sand Hutton in the Parish of Bossal.
Matthew Hood Aug 1785 Admon
John Hood Esquire deceased intestate of Bardon Park Leicestershire, Admon (in Act Books) April 1819.
Prerogative Court of York 8th April 1819. Reference to property at Wilford Nottinghamshire (property described, also with field named) concerning residue of a certain term of 500 years originally made and created and which became vested in the said John Hood deceased. Also reference back to 1706 re property at Wilford.
Regarding 1819 John Hood of Bardon Park Admin. We can rule out John Hood of Bardon Park, being buried Selby, because he died 3 February 1792 (per family tree online), which is also confirmed in three newspapers:-
16 February 1792 Bath Chronicle ...
16 February 1792 Derby Mercury
17 February 1792 Stamford Mercury
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Sarah Russel baptism 30 September 1793 Selby father William -mother Mary
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William Russell born 1738 died/burial Wistow 1815
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York Peculiars Probate Index, 1383-1883
William Russell 1815 Will
If I remember correctly Sarah's father was a sailor. Think we already discounted this William Russell. He was a farmer from Wistow. Will left to his wife Ann, son George and daughter Mary
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Hello Goughy, dobfarm, Bumblebee and All
Quote from: BushInn1746 on Tuesday 12 January 16 16:53 GMT (UK)
"and a Military George Hood born Burniston in TNA, Kew, WO series (War Office) records."
[Goughy's comment]
"As an aside and its interesting what "turns-up" when researching. This George Hood born Burniston turns out to be the one who died in Leeds in 1845! (i.e. the one who was identified in the newspapers when you did your first post back in August.)"
If the Military George Hood dying Leeds 5th September 1845 aged 63 was born at "Burniston", that is North of Scarborough.
The York Herald 13 September 1845
[above the death entry it says "On Friday, the 5th instant"] "Same day, aged 63 years, Mr. George Hood, of Leeds, formerly a Serjeant in the 7th Regiment of Foot."
There are Manor of Selby, Selby Abbey and Mariner records, to be seen.
Thank you, for all the suggestions, research and time spent.
Kind regards Mark
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Quote from: BushInn1746 on Tuesday 12 January 16 16:53 GMT (UK)
"and a Military George Hood born Burniston in TNA, Kew, WO series (War Office) records."
[Goughy's comment]
"As an aside and its interesting what "turns-up" when researching. This George Hood born Burniston turns out to be the one who died in Leeds in 1845! (i.e. the one who was identified in the newspapers when you did your first post back in August.)"
If the Military George Hood dying Leeds 5th September 1845 aged 63 was born at "Burniston", that is North of Scarborough.
The York Herald 13 September 1845
[above the death entry it says "On Friday, the 5th instant"] "Same day, aged 63 years, Mr. George Hood, of Leeds, formerly a Serjeant in the 7th Regiment of Foot."
I gleaned that snippet of information from on-line military records, so just re-confirming George born in Burniston is definitely the one dying in Leeds.
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A recap ...
If my "George Hood of Selby" is linked to the following:-
"Jane Wife of John Hood of Selby Mariner" (bur. 15 August 1803, aged 65) and John Hood "Abode Selby" (buried Selby 4 April 1819 aged 82) and Maudland Hood "Morland dau of John Hood of Selby, Mariner by Elizth his wife, dau of John Spencer of Scarbro' Mariner." We hope they will turn out to be related and lead to a George Hood somewhere.
An Elizabeth Hood was buried St Mary's Scarborough 1775. Goughy (I think) suggested this burial of Elizabeth Hood may be linked to the birth of Maudland Hood.
Then we have this 1778 intent to marry, "John Hood of Scarborough in the County of York Mariner " to Sarah, but the intent is John Hood of Scarborough and also a Sarah, not a Jane, so could be another John Hood mariner.
Date and place unknown - George Hood of Selby being born somewhere.
Then 15 August 1803 Jane Wife of John Hood of Selby Mariner aged 65, buried at Selby Churchyard.
It is the John Hood of Selby, Mariner to Jane (the Jane Hood buried Selby 1803) marriage, which is of interest, first. The marriage occurring somewhere between 1775 and 1803.
Because the Port of Selby (for Customs arrangements) and places along the river came under the Port of Hull, if George was born on a boat, or port along the Ouse, his birth may be registered at Hull?
Are the Hull Registers and also the Sculcoates Register scans online, please?
Kind regards, Mark
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The headache is who the heck was Jane Hood burial 1803 Selby wife of John Hood the mariner.
The burial place of George Hood and dobfarm's quote here, sums up my dilemma perfectly.
The Borthwick say and my Selby Parish transcriptions, only add that she was 65 years of age, at burial 15th August 1803. (Selby transcriptions say - 'Died aged 65 & bd in the Ch Yard').
The B.T. scan "Jane Wife of John Hood of Selby Mariner AUG't 15 "
I wonder if a gravestone survives, which might / might not add anything, probably not, knowing my luck!
Kind regards, Mark
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Recap
John Hood signature is the yardstick or his mark on marriages of John Hood
John Hood X Elizabeth Spencer marriage unknown or not known if ever happened
Possible Elizabeth Spencer married Mr Leppington, he died, and she then married John Hood as Elizabeth Leppington widow nee Spencer (*Goughy may expand info) Scarborough-(Signature needed here of this John Hood)
Maudland Hood - bapt 1775 married Mr Turner of Selby
George Hood history pre 1812 unknown
John Hood burial 1819 occupation unknown (Could be another John Hood)
John Hood a mariner husband of Jane Hood burial 1803 Selby
(details and date of Marriage to John Hood the mariner unknown)
John Hood a sea going captain will have had records with his signature (Pack boat/coaster ship records Hull / London)
George Hood d 1845 Selby born Yorkshire 1841 census
1787 baptism Gateshead father John Hood is Durham and no known history of this George after baptism of him.
George Hood marriage aged 28 b 1786 on bond allegation in 1815 given by George himself
George death 1845 Selby age 60 ish given by informant
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The headache is who the heck was Jane Hood burial 1803 Selby wife of John Hood the mariner.
The burial place of George Hood and dobfarm's quote here, sums up my dilemma perfectly.
The Borthwick say and my Selby Parish transcriptions, only add that she was 65 years of age, at burial 15th August 1803. (Selby transcriptions say - 'Died aged 65 & bd in the Ch Yard').
The B.T. scan "Jane Wife of John Hood of Selby Mariner AUG't 15 "
I wonder if a gravestone survives, which might / might not add anything, probably not, knowing my luck!
Kind regards, Mark
I thought you had checked Selby Abbey graveyard for all Hood epitaph/MI's
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Hello
About 5 years ago, we did have a look (a main street abutted the cemetery wall), but I seem to recall we were drawn inside Selby Abbey, where we found Matthew Hood Surgeon and wife Elizabeth Hood 1732 in the floor and took photos. Considering the numerous burials, I don't think there were many standing or other headstones.
For John and Jane Hood, I think one suggested was Jane Newby November 1793 marriage at Scalby.
EDIT: Just noticed in my paper notes, that a note on here said that John Hood was a farmer.
Mark
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BT entry for the marriage just states the groom and bride, intimates that they both signed - witnesses are George Newby and "possibly" John Hodgson.
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Via the "Banns" on FindMyPast - but actually the marriage entry ;D ;D
John Hood is a farmer - botp
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BT entry for the marriage just states the groom and bride, intimates that they both signed - witnesses are George Newby and "possibly" John Hodgson.
Hello Bumblebee
Thank you.
The witness names to the John Hood X Jane Newby marriage, November 1793 could be coincidences, but ...
In two newspapers Leeds Intelligencer and Manchester Mercury of 10 July 1781, a Geo Newby was a Master sailing from Stanton's Wharf London to Selby.
However, a Jane Hodgson, was the daughter of John Hood, in an 1815 Will, summarised extracts below ...
Will of John Hood, June 1815 Kirkby Misperton
I John Hood of Ryton in the County of York Jobber ... my daughter Mary Sunley ... my daughter Ann Gawbry ...my daughter Jane Hodgson ... my daughter Elizabeth Abbot ... and lastly ... I appoint my son Robert Hood and my Son-in-Law Thomas Harrison Sole Executors ... 11th September 1814
Witnessed Rob't Drake, Richard Fox pass'd 5th June 1815
EDIT: Newby or just coincidences?
On George Hood's 1815 Marriage Bond, it was signed by:-
George Hood and Chester Newby of Selby, a miller.
Earlier reply #160 from Goughy 26 October 2015
Chester Newby
Born in Whitley Bridge 1790 Parents Thomas and Hannah Newby (nee Chester)
Married Elizabeth Goulton 30 Jan 1814 (Chester of Snaith Parish - Elizabeth Selby Parish
Re-married 1841 in Rawcliffe, Goole to Mary Ann Pease - residence at time of marriage Barlow
1841 Census residence Barlow
1851 Census visitor Barlow
Died 25 Sept 1859 Selby District
Probate Calendar describes him as Gentleman of Snaith
Goughy
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
Thank you for all your searches, time, efforts and travelling.
You may recall, that there might be a George Hood, widower, according to a Deed Memorial.
I am trying to make sense of a Deed Memorial (summary), of the selling family and several others. Also a George Hood and a George Hood of Selby, brewer are mentioned (G.H., the Brewer, formerly being the Cooper, the occupation clearly changes by July 1826 (Richard Hood's baptism).
It seems the selling family have gone back and forth to The High Court of Chancery, from 1830.
I'm hoping to get copies posted and although George Hood was not a named Plaint or Defendant in the Case title. I am hoping it might mention George Hood/s.
Ordered 3 other slightly later (19th Cent) Hood Wills of the family, sometimes later documents of the children, go into an explanation of how property was first acquired, other relationships.
Having George Hood's 1846 Probate, names premises by type, street names, leaving to his wife and children, mentions Legacies (no explanation) and appointing an Arbitrator and Executors.
We shall look at the Hull, Scarborough angle shortly.
Kind regards, Mark
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Have you researched for a burial of a wife of George Hood the widower ???
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Quote snippet from above post
"Also a George Hood and a George Hood of Selby, brewer are mentioned (G.H., the Brewer, formerly being the Cooper, the occupation clearly changes by July 1826 (Richard Hood's baptism)"
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This is what makes me think George Hood d 1845 acquired his wealth from the Russel ( Russell) family after his 1815 marriage ???
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Obviously, Sarah Russel aged 21 yrs married to George Hood 1815, would be too young.
Hull Packet 3rd May 1803
"On Saturday fe'nnight, at Lancaster, Mr Taite, wine and spirit merchant in York, to Miss Sarah Russell, of Selby. "
There were two spellings:- Russel and Russell at Selby.
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Too young ?
A Will/probate trust or inheritance to be paid out at reaching full adulthood at 21 years old or paid out after marriage from a deceased's estate of a parent, grandparent, great grandparent, uncle or aunt and who died many years earlier when the Will was made put in a trust when the inheritor was a child is not unusual.
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Hello dobfarm and All
Thanks for that Google books link, regarding Rev David Senior being at the Independent Chapel, Selby.
The newspapers also confirm David Senior was at Selby Independent Chapel when George Hood died in September 1845.
In 1835 ... one of George Hood's Undertenants was John Green.
Done a search either side of 1845 with the name David Senior and found this in York Herald 8 April 1848, that the Rev David Senior, Selby Independent married Samuel Wand, linen draper, to Miss Green, eldest daughter of Mr. John Green, all of that place.
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Apparently, c.1839 David Senior Pastor was formerly of Brotherton.
Hull Advertiser Friday 20th June 1845
Another, marriage by Rev David Senior at the Independent Chapel, Selby, mentions Mr Samuel Hutchinson of Bradford, sharebroker, marrying Ellen, daughter of John Adams, Esq., of the former place.
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Kind regards, Mark
Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee
Found a John Adams of Selby (1865), looking after the sale of the Old-established, 90 Pit Tan-Yard, Engine house, Drying Sheds, Bark Mill, Stables, Granaries, Dwelling House and Cottages, at Gowthorpe, Selby. The Dwelling House and Tan-yard lately being in the occupation of Mrs Hood.
John Adams was mentioned in 1845 in relation to George Hood's property and possibly an Independent, if the same Adams, as in the marriage quoted.
Selby Independent was also called the Bethesda Chapel, this was also known as 'Selby Congregational' and in 1972 the Congregationalists joined with the Presbyterians to form the United Reformed Church (URC).
A brief pdf of the building is online, has a photograph with a brief history, including D. Senior being there ...
[PDF] Selby United Reformed Church - Statement
Also, some general info in The Tourist's Companion; ... From Leeds and Selby to Hull. by Edward Parsons, 1835, from p.138 about the Independent and other dissenters at Selby.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1X8uAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=William+Bowden+of+Hull&source=bl&ots=3hLY9IaihM&sig=Fh3hu9ZW9g4OBDhuojn0Z4r7NaU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAvqH45snLAhXF0RQKHVUGDW8Q6AEIJTAE
John Clapham of Leeds and William Bowden of Hull, leading members of that body known as Independents in these towns, associated with friends in Selby for the purpose of establishing a church and congregation. The Selby Chapel in New Lane, was completed in 1809.
In 1812 the Rev. Thomas Pinchback was appointed Minister and from 1839 D. Senior.
I have asked the URC and archives, if they have any information c.1845, or burial information.
Kind regards, Mark
EDIT: Apparently, some records (after 1837) may still be held by individual churches and Record Offices.
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On the theme of independent
Nathanel Hood
Spouse's Name Mary Bartindale
Event Date 14 May 1706
Event Place The Old Meeting House-Presbyterian Or Independent,Scarborough,York,England
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
Thanks for the Independent information.
William Hood of Selby baptised 17 May 1816 at Selby, was not in the Selby 1841 Census.
Kind regards, Mark
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy and All
I thought it might be useful to set out in date order some very recent information obtained from Scarborough scans.
a) I noticed Banns published John Hood X Martha Dean August 1781, do you have any info about the Marriage, please?
b) A Spencer Hood burial (I presume Spencer comes from Elizabeth Hood's maiden surname).
c) Occupations in the burial scans appear in 1774 and John Hood is confirmed as a Mariner.
d) There was a William Hood marrying at Scarborough, possibly related?
Hood Scarborough Burials
PE 165/43
1770. 28 July
Jane Hood
PE 165/43
1771. 07 April
William Hood
1772. 17 February
George S. of John Hood
1772. 25 March
Richard S. of John Hood
PE 165/43
1774. 26 January
John son of John Hood Mariner
PE 165/43
1775. 24 December
Elizabeth Wife of John Hood
PE 165/43
1776. 07 December
Spencer Son of John Hood
PE 165/44
1778. 03 September
George Son of John Hood
Banns Published in 1781 Scarborough PE 165/44
John Hood and Martha Dean were publish:d
August the 5th the 12th and the 19th 1781
Banns Published in 1795 Scarborough
Wm Hood & Eliz. Winteringham
Publish’d July 5th – 12th & 19th 1795
Marriage at St Mary's Scarborough
26th July 1795 No: 1067
William Hood Mariner Bachelor age 27
and
Elizabeth Winteringham Spinster age 30
both of this Parish
By me John Kirk Vicar
Witnesses: Jane Porrith John Coxton
Baptism at Scarborough from Family Search
1775. 24 December
Maudland Hood
Parents John Hood & Elizabeth
[Maudland’s baptism occurs on the Burial day of Elizabeth Wife of John Hood]
NOTE: For other researchers looking to see if there is a Mary Wood, Scarborough Burial, in East Riding Archive Ref. PE 165/43
Scarborough Burial 13 November 1772 Mary D. of Mary Hood. looks like it could be ...
Scarborough Burial 13 November 1772 Mary D. of Mary Wood.
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These matching date of birth years 1737/8 of 3 events marriage 1765 and burial 1803 and 1819 still concern me
John Hood birth: born 1738 (Bond) marriage: 28 March 1765
(John Hood burial 1819 aged 82 born 1737)
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Jane Marshall born 1738
(Jane Hood burial 1803 age 65 born 1738)
York, England
Actual marriage
28 March 1765
Pickering, York, England
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1732, Aug. 14. John Marshal and Marget (sic) Hood, of the par. of Pickering in York minster
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Transcriptions/ARY/YorkMinsterMarriages3.html
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These matching date of birth years 1737/8 of 3 events marriage 1765 and burial 1803 and 1819 still concern me
John Hood birth: born 1738 (Bond) marriage: 28 March 1765
(John Hood burial 1819 aged 82 born 1737)
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Jane Marshall born 1738
(Jane Hood burial 1803 age 65 born 1738)
York, England
Actual marriage
28 March 1765
Pickering, York, England
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1732, Aug. 14. John Marshal and Marget (sic) Hood, of the par. of Pickering in York minster
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Transcriptions/ARY/YorkMinsterMarriages3.html
Hello dobfarm
Thanks for reminding me of this.
I shall have to get a scan of their York 1765 Marriage Bond, marriage etc., check no earlier deaths before 1803 / 1819 where possible and have a look at their occupations and children.
EDIT:
1) For Jane Hood (nee Jane Marshall) to survive and be buried in Selby Cemetery on 15 August 1803 as "Jane Wife of John Hood of Selby Mariner" aged 65, there would have to be two John Hood Mariners:-
i) one John Hood Mariner married to Jane Marshall, Jane surviving until her death in 1803 and
ii) if the Selby Parish transcriptions have been accurately transcribed, a second John Hood, a Mariner of Selby, married to Elizabeth Spencer.
2) Also, Maudland Hood was baptised at Scarborough to John Hood and Elizabeth (not seen baptism scan). The Selby Parish Register transcriptions say, that when first child of Maudland Hood (married Charles Turner 1794) was born, it is reputed to give Maudland's father as John Hood of Selby, Mariner and mother Elizabeth, then Maudland Hood and "George Hood of Selby" may not related (as half brother / half sister).
Kind regards, Mark
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I think you have just about exhausted post 1812 stuff and time to check out PR's 1700's
John Hood burial 1819 was an old man 82 ---- His son most likely father of George Hood d 1845
Likely son or stepson (the son father of George) of Jane Hood burial 1803 Selby from Pickering or Scarborough (Scalby) not forgeting Gateshead 1786 baptism of a George Hood father John (Possible John son of old man John Hood burial 1819 Selby ?)
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John Hood signatures comparing time
marriages
John Hood X Martha Dean August 1781 Scarborough BANNS (Beverley archives)
John Hood X Elizabeth Leppington Scarborough (possible widow nee Spencer) 1763 (Beverley Archives) (Bond at Borthwick)
John Hood X Jane Marshall 1765 Pickering (Beverley Archives) (Bond at Borthwick)
John and Jane Newby 1793 marriage Scalby (Beverley Archives)
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We also have John Hood burial 1819 Selby with no occupation known
We know a lot about Mauland Turner but nothing about Jane Hood a mainkey player
The 1738 birth years of John Hood burial 1819 X Jane Hood (possible nee Marshall) burial 1803 both in Selby still commands most likely the grandparent of George Hood d 1845 to be considered when checking out John Hood and Jane Marshall's children as one boy possible father of George Hood d 1845
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy , Bumblebee ...
Thank you for the reply.
Been on Ancestry and using More Options, "Exact" box left blank, I typed in the "Keyword" box only, complete with commas ... "Hood tanner Selby "
and this has also come up during two Hood searches, but I can't access it and cannot contact the person submitting the info, due to limited Library access?
Photo: Henry Bacon's Burial
Category: Document
Taken: 17 Sep 1785
Attached To: Henry Bacon (born 1726)
Are you able to access more about this, or contact the submitter, please?
My Selby Parish Trancriptions ...
17 Sept 1785 Henry BACON ...
1. Confirm Henry Bacon was a Tanner, a Surgeon and Apothecary of Selby, dying aged 60 and buried in the body of the Church
2. Henry Bacon's wife was Hannah Hood, daughter of Mr Hood of Selby, Surgeon.
I could apply for his Will, if there was one.
Thanks.
Kind regards, Mark
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy , Bumblebee ...
Thank you for the reply.
Been on Ancestry and using More Options, "Exact" box left blank, I typed in the "Keyword" box only, complete with commas ... "Hood tanner Selby "
and this has also come up during two Hood searches, but I can't access it and cannot contact the person submitting the info, due to limited Library access?
Photo: Henry Bacon's Burial
Category: Document
Taken: 17 Sep 1785
Attached To: Henry Bacon (born 1726)
Are you able to access more about this, or contact the submitter, please?
My Selby Parish Trancriptions ...
17 Sept 1785 Henry BACON ...
1. Confirm Henry Bacon was a Tanner, a Surgeon and Apothecary of Selby, dying aged 60 and buried in the body of the Church
2. Henry Bacon's wife was Hannah Hood, daughter of Mr Hood of Selby, Surgeon.
I could apply for his Will, if there was one.
Thanks.
Kind regards, Mark
Samuel HOOD Barber and Surgeon from Selby -Thorganby burial 1st July, 1737
George Hood a Tanner d 1845
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From Parish records:
Baptism
Henry Bacon son of John Bacon 28 July 1726
Marriage
Mr Henry Bacon of Selby and Judith Hardy of Snaith 5 Sept 1754
Burial
Henry Bacon of Selby Surgeon and Apothecary son of John Bacon of Selby Tanner by Hannah his wife daugh of Mr Hood of Selby aforesaid Surgeon 17 September (1785) in Selby Church aged 60
There was a Henry Bacon baptised 19 January 1764 son of Mr Henry Bacon
A Henry Bacon (batchelor) was buried 13 May 1811
Only Probate Record listed is for Henry Bacon (Batchelor) ADMINISTRATION Nov 1819
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Big surname coincidence.
With Maudland Hood (daughter of Elizabeth Spencer ) marriage to Charles Turner
John Turner property owner with J Hood as Tennant 1781 onwards in land tax
later Mr Spencer a property owner with a Mr Hood and another Mr Spencer as tenants 1790's land tax
Maybe the deeds of Mr John Turner and Mr Spencer owners of said land taxed record property or properties will show summate
Maybe widow granny Mrs (Jane ?) Slipper ? = later is Jane Hood burial 1803 Selby as she vanishes off the land tax records 1780's as a tenant of Mr John Turner's property-mind you! John Turner also vanishes.
Maybe widow Mrs Slipper had a illegitimate grandson of her deceased daughter called George renamed Hood
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From Parish records:
Baptism
Henry Bacon son of John Bacon 28 July 1726
Marriage
Mr Henry Bacon of Selby and Judith Hardy of Snaith 5 Sept 1754
Burial
Henry Bacon of Selby Surgeon and Apothecary son of John Bacon of Selby Tanner by Hannah his wife daugh of Mr Hood of Selby aforesaid Surgeon 17 September (1785) in Selby Church aged 60
There was a Henry Bacon baptised 19 January 1764 son of Mr Henry Bacon
A Henry Bacon (batchelor) was buried 13 May 1811
Only Probate Record listed is for Henry Bacon (Batchelor) ADMINISTRATION Nov 1819
Hello Goughy and dobfarm
Thank you for your replies.
I have nothing to suggest we are linked to Hood of Nettleham, or Hood of Yafforth.
However John Hood of Nettleham, Lincolnshire and William Hood of Yafforth, Yorkshire (early half of the 19th Cent.) were both Grandfathers, who had some daughters.
But I noticed in the newspaper, that when two of John and William Hoods Grandchildren died, the death notices were still carrying the main surname 'Hood' of their Grandfathers, rather than the surname of their father.
What if George's Grandfather (Hood), had no male child, or surviving male child, only daughters, who married and produced a son George, who took the surname Hood, his Grandfather's surname.
I know little about Samuel Hood a Barber and Surgeon from Selby, as to whether he had children, only that he died and was buried at Thorganby. Also I know little about the two Nathaniel Hood burials yet, one may be Nathaniel Hood who may also have survived, the dreadful loss of Hood lives at Selby before 1732.
It seems only two Hood of Selby females may have survived in the 18th Century to marry.
Just a thought, Mark
If the right type, of the Manor of Selby records have survived, it might be possible for me to trace family information there and in other Parish records.
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Google search ! Enter - Manor of Selby records
4th entry down -- gb50-uddlo,ddlo(2) - Papers of the Estates of the Earls of ... with link
what it says on google search
gb50-uddlo,ddlo(2) - Papers of the Estates of the Earls of ...
... the Estate Papers of the Earls of Burlington and the Papers of Selby Abbey) ... are very complete from 1322-1630); records for the manor of Selby (1522-1915), ...
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Manor of Selby records - Held at Brynmor Jones Library Hull University
Looks like loads of bumph to look at - to filter through but could be a long job. ???
Ref: DDLO
Papers of the Estates of the Earls of Londesborough (Incorporating the Estate Papers of the Earls of Burlington and the Papers of Selby Abbey)
Incorperating 'records for the manor of Selby (1522-1915)' and tons info on other villages near Selby :-Stuff
http://www2.hull.ac.uk/lli/induction/index.html
(There can be some good deals on self catering either chalets or canavans accommodation near Hull [East coast side of Hull this time of the year] ideal for ancestry researching)
Reminder !! :- Held at Held at Brynmor Jones Library Hull University
Not Hull History Centre
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Google search ! Enter - Manor of Selby records
4th entry down -- gb50-uddlo,ddlo(2) - Papers of the Estates of the Earls of ... with link
what it says on google search
gb50-uddlo,ddlo(2) - Papers of the Estates of the Earls of ...
... the Estate Papers of the Earls of Burlington and the Papers of Selby Abbey) ... are very complete from 1322-1630); records for the manor of Selby (1522-1915), ...
Hello dobfarm
Thanks, I wish to see what Hull have, I have several pages of notes of archive references, but have been suffering attacks of a neuro nature, also giving me flickering vision.
Do Beverley Archives, have an online shop?
Ordering Spencer Property docs from Wakefield is a good idea, if Spencer's Selby property was sold whilst Mr Hood was a Tenant, it might confirm a succession to my George Hood, but it may have passed to the Manor or Person by some other means, such as inheritance. However, I can order a search and see what happens.
Also, a William Hood property search.
1. John Spencer of Scarborough and 2. John Spencer of Conisbrough Park son of John Spencer of Selby, might be a coincidence. Nothing to link 1 and 2.
According to the Abstract of Will of John Spencer, Gentleman of Selby, dated 1810, his son was John Spencer of Conisbrough Park.
Whether John Spencer of Selby and Conisbrough Park were linked to John Spencer Stanhope, I don't know.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_st=adv&_aq=John%20Spencer%20Selby&_ep=John%20Spencer&_dss=range&_ro=any
I'll have to check my notes re the place of Stanhope.
You are quite correct, there were even two deposits of some of the following Selby records:-
Manor of Over Selby (alias Bondgate)
Manor of Selby cum Membris
Manor of Selby Waterhouses
Manor of Selby
Archives of Selby Abbey
Selby is apparently linked to:-
Londesborough
Lady Stourton of Staynor Hall and Lady Stourton Allerton Park at Cheame, Surrey, reference to Mary Langdale
Stourton Lodge, near Leeds and a Mortuarium at Carlton Hall
Langdale family papers (incorporating Stourton and Harford)
Lord and Lady Petre of Bradford
Petre Family of Ingatestone and West Horndon (Essex Archives)
Henry Howard Earl of Surrey and Henry Charles Howard
Howard family (where we found the old Hood Will of Roger Hood amongst the Howard Vyse collection).
Petre marrying into the Howard family.
Much is at the Hull History Centre, who it seems have the Hull University collection.
Petre Papers are also held at Essex and I expect there are Selby papers all over the UK.
John Hood, Tanner of Selby
John Hood, Tanner of Selby, sat on the West Riding Grand Jury and signed the speech given by Lord Londesborough to the Tenantry of Selby.
The only thing my family can recall is that we come from Selby.
You may have seen my appeal for the descendants, of the widow of William Hood (William dying 1870), being Jane Casson Hood of Selby, latterly of Brayton, who may have some papers, so hopefully a Casson will reply.
Thank you and kind regards, Mark
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Reminder !! :- Held at Held at Brynmor Jones Library Hull University
Not Hull History Centre
(There can be some good deals on self catering either chalets or canavans accommodation near Hull [East coast side of Hull this time of the year] ideal for ancestry researching)
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Your Quote
Thanks, I wish to see what Hull have, I have several pages of notes of archive references, but have been suffering attacks of a neuro nature, also giving me flickering vision.
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Have a rest off George! he going nowhere- There are other things in life besides ancestry (Your health) -Maybe your trying to hard ??? and George will pop up when least expected in his own time. :)
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George Hood
Spouse's Name Maudlin Spencer
Event Date 12 Jan 1731
Event Place York, England
Magdelen Spence
Gender Female
Christening Date 26 Dec 1708
Christening Place KNARESBOROUGH,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name Francis Spence
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George Hood
Spouse's Name Maudlin Spencer
Event Date 12 Jan 1731
Event Place York, England
Parish Record transcript at St Mary's SCARBOROUGH
"George Hood & Maudlin Spencer of Scarborough with Licence"
Transcript of Licence gives Maudlin's dob as 1710 and George's as 1707
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George Hood
Spouse's Name Maudlin Spencer
Event Date 12 Jan 1731
Event Place York, England
Parish Record transcript at St Mary's SCARBOROUGH
"George Hood & Maudlin Spencer of Scarborough with Licence"
Transcript of Licence gives Maudlin's dob as 1710 and George's as 1707
Hello Dobfarm, Goughy and Bumblebee
Thanks for your two posts re 'George Hood' and 'Maudlin Spencer'.
Re William Hood d.1870 aged 54 and his wife Jane Casson Hood.
In Jane's Will, she leaves Edwin Hood "the book case and drawers that belonged to the Simpsons "
PROB 11/1960/73 Will of Janet Simpson otherwise Murray of Selby, Yorkshire 1842.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_st=adv&_aq=Simpson%20Selby&_ep=of%20Selby&_cr1=PROB&_dss=range&_ro=any
[EDIT: In the above Will it refers to Selby in the Parish of Keithall and Kinkell in the County of Aberdeen]
Kind regards, Mark
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George Hood
Spouse's Name Maudlin Spencer
Event Date 12 Jan 1731
Event Place York, England
Magdelen Spence
Gender Female
Christening Date 26 Dec 1708
Christening Place KNARESBOROUGH,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name Francis Spence
Re George Hood and Maudlin Spencer 12 January 1731
Family Search gives the following for Scarborough (not chk'd):-
1733 George Hood father George Hood
1736 Hood father George Hood
1738 John Hood father George Hood [if correct, this ties up with John Hood, burial 1819 aged 82]
1741 William Hood parents George Hood & Maudlin
1745 Richard Hood parents George Hood & Magdalene
Kind regards, Mark
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As the will is held by the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, you will need to purchase it via TNA.
It will not be on the records held by Ancestry. Pre-1858 the only collections are from Heptonstall (Town accounts 1834-38), Knaresborough (Wills 1640-1858) and Richmond (Probate 1536-1790).
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With the Casson link to Thorne and Balby also John Spencer of Selby son of Conisbrough the broad canal of the river Don valley / River Tent / River Ouse Selby and sea from the river Humber Hull to Scarborough
The waterways were the link. (broad canal & sea going coaster Packboats )
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=744970.msg5921777#msg5921777
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William Hood a cooper of Loanhead Scotland
July 13th 1802
Theft : Richard Allen sister Mary Hood (nee Allen) wife of William Hood a cooper
Richard Allen got banished from Scotland for seven years
William Hood got sent to trail in Nov 1802
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wwWvFXTVYz0C&pg=PA77&lpg=PA77&dq=william+hood+cooper+loanhead&source=bl&ots=LBnemQia5r&sig=aXY_2jZq4wd7vSno8HUC3c_k0Uc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLqvyw5ObLAhWJtxQKHUH3DmcQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=william%20hood%20cooper%20loanhead&f=false
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As the will is held by the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, you will need to purchase it via TNA.
It will not be on the records held by Ancestry. Pre-1858 the only collections are from Heptonstall (Town accounts 1834-38), Knaresborough (Wills 1640-1858) and Richmond (Probate 1536-1790).
Hello Bumblebee
Thanks for looking.
The Simpson Will is Selby in the Parish of Keithall and Kinkell in the County of Aberdeen
Keithall alias Keith-hall
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Xu0ZAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA571&lpg=PA571&dq=Parish+of+Keith-hall+Kinkell&source=bl&ots=NfUklbQMyK&sig=uDcVMaFbeMmOdlNCOO-L7zFo_Qo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjG8oy07-bLAhXI0xoKHcQzCUUQ6AEILTAJ
There are three places known as Selby in the UK, one in Aberdeenshire.
Kind regards Mark
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Recap on what is known on George Hood d 1845 before his 1815 marriage
Going back to 1812 Selby, a puzzle with no apparent local history ? - an educated but common workman appears with a trade aged circa 25 (These usually educated trade workers stem from the poor overseers control) ~ (Educated wealthy people usually ? did not end up with a trade to their names)
George Hood d 1845 was a Cooper using his hands in a trade that took 7 years to 10 years learn from a master *** Cooper where barrels are made.
By 1815 George Hood married Sarah Russel by bond allegation info -What is unusual ? why there is all that information about
' Robert Sinclair, Master ( ***) of commissary or office of the peculiar and spiritual jurisdiction' on the bond allegation form.
It was an official office as sample example links
http://parlipapers.chadwyck.co.uk/marketing/index.jsp
http://www.connectedhistories.org/Search_results.aspx?pc=%22Alne%22&sr=pp&st=100
Then by 1818 George becomes an establish business man with a bob or two his name.
Why! or How !
((A stream does not become a reservoir overnight ! it takes time, like a year or two to build ))
Jane Hood burial 1803 aged 65 born 1738 and John Hood burial 1819 aged 82 born 1737 were too old to be above George Hood parents in my opinion
by 1838 George Hood d1845 becomes involved himself in Overseers work in Selby
Baffling to say the least !
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy and Bumblebee
Thanks, these are my thoughts.
The George Hood Marriage Bond and License are possibly a clue, I feel.
1) The Bond and Licence were dated 16 May 1815, but they did not marry until July 1815, so no hurry, or was George's time taken up, with urgent family business (winding up an estate or business), family illness or loss.
2) They did not marry in private, as they publicly declared their Marriage in the newspaper. Early newspaper announcements did not appear to be placed by poor, but usually traders, merchants and nobility
Family Search ... Allegations, Bonds and Licences in England and Wales ...
"Couples in a hurry or requiring privacy might include those where:"
1. The bride was pregnant or the groom was on leave from the Army or Navy. Could be in the Militia, Navy but would they train / employ Coopers? Ports are recorded as employing Coopers, so Navy a possibility.
2. The parties differed greatly in age, such as a widow marrying a much younger man or an old man marrying a young woman. George 28 yrs and Sarah 21 yrs - Ok
3. The parties differed in social standing, such as a master marrying a servant. Does not appear to be, but was George from landed Gentry, but why take up a trade? Did he want to find his own way, but still received a yearly or other income from a Will, or his family?
4. The parties differed in religion or did not attend the parish church because they were Nonconformists or Roman Catholics. This is a possibility in his early life. But he baptised his children in the Selby Parish Church. The Baptisms of James Collinson's children are in the Protestant Dissenters Register, but the Selby Register only begins in 1811, hence no George Hood baptism at Selby.
The newspapers indicate The London Missionary Society formed in 1795, were sending out ones to form/support Auxiliary Societies or Friends including Hull or Leeds and Holmfirth. Some early 19th Century meetings raised hundreds of pounds and dissenters were Merchants and Traders and there was generally money amongst them. The Methodists have said he was not a member.
Some Hoods were dissenters and some originated from Scotland where there were Non-Conformists.
5. The parties were of full age but still faced family opposition to their marriage. Not known, but no parent as Witness, but who was Jane Cockin, Witness, was she nee Hood, or a remarried Hood widow, or friend?
6. The parties had already married, perhaps in Scotland or overseas, and wished to clarify their status in English law. Unlikely, he was a "Bachelor" and in the 1841 Census - Born in same County "Y".
https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Marriage_Allegations,_Bonds_and_Licences_in_England_and_Wales
Jane Cockin
"Jane Cockin" is a Witness on the George Hood X Sarah Russel 1815 Marriage.
The 16 Sept 1837, Jane Cockin Birth Certificate, Selby in the Sub-district of Snaith, gives her father as William Cockin Labourer Cowick and mother Ann Cockin formerly Robinson.
I was hoping the mother might have been Jane Cockin, so no clue there.
It is baffling, but:-
George's Baptism record could still remain to be discovered, mis-transcribed, or no surviving Register.
George Hood's burial still remains to be discovered.
I think Beverley and Hull is where we'll be having our holiday!
Kind regards, Mark
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This is what's baffling.
Lots of official records & laws in the parish over child learning some not of the poor
Serious stuff not open to misinterpretation of 7 plus years deeply involved bed and work training under the big stick them days.
this link will give you an idea of the time need to learn a trade.
take note of children of a parent or parents or relative with a trade sending their child to learn another trade different from their own.
Coopers
Tanners
Mariners
Brewers
and other trades
Even father to son trades had to be recorded officially as an apprenticeship
http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk/Pages/AdvancedSearchCatalogueDetail.aspx?SearchType=Param&SearchID=3f359d1f-9ad2-47de-af91-dadff558b4b9&ItemID=168398
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Family business of middle class wealth self taught or a schooled trained administrator in management in as any trade business man/ manufacturer/manager of any businesses in Tanning, Barrel making, Brewing or accumination of businesses employing apprentice trained employees. ? must be the answer to so many trades in business.
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Hello dobfarm
Think you're suggesting that George was not a Cooper by trade, but ran or owned the Cooper business?
I had enquired at the Leeds Yorks Record Office re Bankruptcy files, as they were usually handled at the Leeds Court but a search gives us James of Gray's Inn Place. [London].
I'll look at TNA and ask London Metopolitan Archives, Middlesex, about a file?
Alphabetical List of Bankruptcies and Dividends
May 19, 1807, to June 20, 1807, inclusive.
[Extracted from the London Gazette]-----The Solicitors' Names are between Parenthesis.
The Universal Magazine, Volume 7
"Gibson R. Selby, Yorkshire, cooper, (James, Gray's - Inn - place)."
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=z2QAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA573&lpg=PA573&dq=Cooper+Selby+1807&source=bl&ots=64Z57OJJA_&sig=Tb0eKXVTO0JrHas6KYcI7pxetV0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi47MalrerLAhVFlxoKHcEACgEQ6AEIKzAH
The Selby Directory of 1800 (downloaded copy) says Gibson Richard, Cooper, Wren-Lane.
Wonder if Richard Gibson of Selby:-
a) was an owner or occupier of premises in the Selby Land Tax 1806/7, or
b) who owned his premises?
As there might be a Deed Memorial at Wakefield, I could request a paid search for?
Kind regards, Mark
EDIT:
The only James, Gray's Inn Place, found so far on TNA, in 1810 was:-
John James 11 Grays Inn Place, Grays Inn and according to Fire Insurance he was a Wine Merchant, later a "gent".
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_st=adv&_aq=John%20James%20Grays%20Inn%20place&_ep=John%20James&_dss=range&_sd=1800&_ed=1820&_ro=any
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Land Tax Records
Richard Gibson was a Tenant of Lord Petre 1797 - 1811
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According to newspaper - "Attornery Mr James Grays Inn Place, Grays Inn"
Grays Inn Place is, of course, one of the Barristers Chambers.
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According to newspaper - "Attornery Mr James Grays Inn Place, Grays Inn"
Grays Inn Place is, of course, one of the Barristers Chambers.
Thanks Goughy for your posts.
"Hood George" was a Tenant of "Ld Petrie" too, in the Selby Land Tax of March 1812.
York Herald 20 June 1807
"Richard Gibson, of Selby, Yorkshire, cooper, dealer and chapman, June 23, 3?, July 25, at Guildhall, London. Attorney, Mr John James, Gray's inn place, Grays Inn, London." (date digit not readable)
Hoping the Guildhall records have survived, or perhaps even a report of the case.
Kind regards Mark
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Quote: Mark
Think you're suggesting that George was not a Cooper by trade, but ran or owned the Cooper business?
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There is no way George could have been a trained in 3 trades as Tanner & Brewer as well as a Cooper. If he was an apprentice trained cooper he would have stayed with that business he knew and build up that business he was 7 years trained to do.
Everything about George suggests he came from a business background and had acquired wealth from somewhere before 1812 or from Sarah Russel family post 1815 ?
I think if George Hood d 1845 bought the Cooper business circa 1810/12 as thought he could recover the barrel business with his business skills into a going concern later expanding into brewing and tanning businesses. Richard his son was a grocer (Small business man -)
George must have left a paper tail of other business interest somewhere before coming to Selby if the scenario is right.
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The only other scenario is George Hood d 1845 was an apprentice trained cooper by Richard Gibson as his master and George acquired a business loan from a bank or relative to buy Richard Gibson business or partner in the business.
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Scenario 3
George was as above an apprentice Cooper by master Richard Gibson but had come from business family background -His dad (Who ever ?) had a business in another trade and taught George about running a profitable business.
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London Gazette Online (in italics) 13 June 1807 …
WHereas a Commission of Bankrupt is awarded and
issued forth against Richard Gibson, of Selby, in the
County of York, Cooper, Dealer and Chapman, and he
being declared a Bankrupt is hereby required to surrender
himself to the Commissioners in the said Commission named,
or the major Part of them, on the 23d and 30th of June inst.
and on the 25th of July next, at Ten in the Forenoon on each
Day, at Guildhall, London, and make a full Discovery and Dis-
closure of his Estate and Effects; when and where the Creditors
are to come prepared to prove their Debts, and at the Se-
cond Sitting to chuse Assignees, and at the Last Sitting the
said Bankrupt is required to finish his Examination, and
the Creditors are to assent to or dissent from the Allowance
of his Certificate. All Persons indebted to the said Bank-
rupt, or that have any of his Effects, are not to pay or
deliver the same but to whom the Commissioners shall ap-
point, but give Notice to Mr. John James, No. 11, Gray's-
Inn-Place, Gray's-Inn.
There was a Notice in the London Gazette of 6th March 1810 stating that his Certificate will be allowed unless Cause be shewn to the contrary on or before the 31st of March instant.
I don’t yet know who the Commission were made up of, nor his Creditors.
The Guildhall came under "The City of London", records now at London Met. Archives. I've enquired and requested prints of all surviving records ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/4ccec406-25f7-498d-8e20-90283ec8bd29
No sale of the business can be found, only George Hood appearing as an occupier of “Ld Petrie” in the Selby Land Tax of March 1812.
Kind regards, Mark
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Interesting. Dealer/chapman ? (liquidator ?) (brewing or selling Beer, Wines, Spirits ? maybe )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapmen
There were a few Hood's around the country in that trade above also George's son Richard Hood the Grocer did a bit of dealing in wines & spriits if I remember.
Keep digging in general :- ~ Richard Gibson maybe Master Cooper & businessman mentor of George Hood perhaps
Think your on to something - Richard Gibson and George Hood - both independently addressed Cooper -Wren Lane, Selby 1807 to 1812 earliest known info on George Hood d 1845
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John James 11 Grays Inn Place, Grays Inn and according to Fire Insurance he was a Wine Merchant, later a "gent".
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_st=adv&_aq=John%20James%20Grays%20Inn%20place&_ep=John%20James&_dss=range&_sd=1800&_ed=1820&_ro=any
As Goughy correctly stated John James initially dealing with Gibson's Bankruptcy was a Solicitor / Attorney, but also likely had knowledge of the Wine trade too, according to his Fire Certificate.
Gibson of Selby has possibly been trading with London Merchant/s.
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http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/bankrupts-insolvent-debtors/
Re Commissions of Bankruptcy, under TNA Reference "B3", tried 'Cooper', 'Selby' and 'Gibson', but no file. Only a sample of files kept.
Bankruptcy Commissions Registers B 4/28 - 30 - not online?
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/C481976
EDIT: Registers might not add anything, to Gazette.
TNA, Kew - "B 6 also contains ‘certificates of conformity’ (1733-1837) which, when issued effectively discharged the bankrupt."
Gibson Certificate, about to be issued, published 6 March 1810.
Kind regards, Mark
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Morning Post (From the London Gazette) March 10th 1810
Bankrupts
Dividends ~ List of name for 31st March 1810
Certificates ~ List of name for 31st March 1810 including R Gibson of Selby Yorkshire, Cooper.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/16348/page/350/data.pdf
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=awpKAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA350&lpg=PA350&dq=richard+gibson+cooper+selby&source=bl&ots=2CFH_Rhqal&sig=pDrjN5eOH-qAlXj8aesXGH3E6ZU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjzqKHu0fDLAhUIVBQKHYxnClIQ6AEIUjAH#v=onepage&q=richard%20gibson%20cooper%20selby&f=false
Whereas the acting commissioners in the commission of Bankrupt awarded and issued forth against Richard Gibson, of Selby in the county of York, Cooper, Dealer and Chapman, have certified to the Lord High Chancellor of Great Britain, that the said Richard Gibson hath in all Things conformed himself according to directions of several Acts of Parliament make concerning Bankrupts: This is to give Notice, that, by virtue of an Act passed in the Fifth Year of His late Majesty's reign, his Certificate will be allowed and confirmed as the said Act directs, unless Cause be shewn to the contrary on or before the 31st of March instant.
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728231.msg5787897#msg5787897
Other document dated 16th May 1815 says:-
"On which Day appeared personally George Hood of Selby in the Peculiar and Spiritual Jurisdiction of Selby aforesaid' Cooper" ...
George Hood was the Cooper.
I have been searching 'Selby' and various search words and found this in The Leeds Intelligencer newspaper dated 6 October 1800:-
To COOPERS.
WANTED Immediately, A JOURNEY-
MAN COOPER, who is perfect Master of his
Business, and has been accustomed to make Kitls and
Buckets.- He must be well recommended for Honesty
and Sobriety.
Apply (if by Letter Post-paid,) to Mr. Richard
Gibson, Cooper, Selby.
Richard Gibson's name appears in one of the later George Hood Deed copies.
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Petre & Ors To Hood (registered 1836)
Re Two Dwelling houses, Outbuildings and Yard in Wren Lane and Micklegate, Selby ...
... heretofore in the occupation of Richard Gibson and Thomas Holliday but now of the said George Hood and his Undertenants and of John Green having [word not readable] of William Hood ...
It links the property Let by Lord Petre, occupied by Richard Gibson, was occupied by George Hood etc., when George Hood purchased the property.
A Lot, in an 1835 Sale, under Wren Lane was advertised, as being occupied by George Hood, his Undertenants and John Green.
Re the 1807 Commission of Bankruptcy, it seems, it was like a receiver, who attempted to rescue Gibson's business and sell it on, or assign the business to a Creditor.
Regards Mark
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Its a slim chance ??? but the John Hood and Elizabeth Leppington (Widow nee Spencer ) and Elizabeth Gibson marriages below need comparing of John Hood signatures
John Hood
Spouse's Name Elisabeth Gibson
Event Date 1779
Event Place All Saints, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Was there a docking of a Captain John Hood ship between 1779 and 1786 Gateshead/Newcastle
Geo. Hood
Gender Male
Christening Date 01 Oct 1786
Christening Place GATESHEAD,DURHAM,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Hood
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Petre & Ors To Hood (registered 1836)
Re Two Dwelling houses, Outbuildings and Yard in Wren Lane and Micklegate, Selby ...
... heretofore in the occupation of Richard Gibson and Thomas Holliday but now of the said George Hood and his Undertenants and of John Green having [word not readable] of William Hood ...
It links the property Let by Lord Petre, occupied by Richard Gibson, was occupied by George Hood etc., when George Hood purchased the property.
A Lot, in an 1835 Sale, under Wren Lane was advertised, as being occupied by George Hood, his Undertenants and John Green.
Re the 1807 Commission of Bankruptcy, it seems, it was like a receiver, who attempted to rescue Gibson's business and sell it on, or assign the business to a Creditor.
Regards Mark
Its a pinnacle to work/search around for connections 1807 -1812 -- Gibson/Hood Coopers Wren Lane Selby
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Hello dobfarm
Thanks for replies.
Still awaiting delivery of Fiche of a 1787 book. Reputed to mention John Hood of Gateshead, (Ship? & Publican?)
Newspaper of 9th November 1782, John Hood was Master of the MARY of INVERNESS, lying at Newcastle Quay.
John Hood, Elisabeth Gibson, marriage in 1779, All Saints, Newcastle upon Tyne, you mention, is interesting.
Possible Interest?
The Selby baptism of Susannah Maria Fisher in August 1789 to John and Jane Fisher says ...
John Fisher was the son of Michael Fisher of Armin, Mariner, by Hannah [nee Hood] his wife, dau of Saml Hood of Selby, Surgeon.
ruth52 Reply #142 on: Tuesday 20 October 15 13:56 BST (UK)
Hannah Hood Marries Michael Fisher 2 April 1749 Holy Trinity Hull
When the Edston farm of Stephen Hood deceased, was offered for sale 27 September 1828, a Michael Fisher was the Tenant. Farm was offered for sale again 26 December 1829.
The late Stephen Hood's farm was first offered 15 & 22 December 1827, with a Michael Fisher as Tenant.
No Obit, but Stephen Hood of Edston, must have died before 15 Dec 1827?
Great Edston and Little Edston, are West of Pickering a place you have mentioned.
Thanks, Mark
EDIT:
1755 to 1761 Four Newspapers - Michael Fisher was a Master, sailing Hull, Bridlington, Scarborough and Berwick.
1791 Universal British Directory under Hull, list John Fisher at Selby, as a Master.
John Hood the Mariner is not listed as a Master - probably retired from sailing.
When George Hood ale brewer, purchases the final 1/5 th of the Gowthorpe property from Paul Brook of Selby and Betty his wife, registered 1845, a George Hood and John Fisher are two, of the five occupants.
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Your Quote -John Fisher was the son of Michael Fisher of Armin, Mariner, by Hannah [nee Hood] his wife, dau of Saml Hood of Selby, Surgeon. - unquote
Armin is probably Airmyn Port at the confluence of the tidal rivers Air and Ouse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airmyn
Maybe a bit of looking at that Airmyn St David church chapelry of Goole parish was a major inland port 18th/19th century - maybe for John-boy Hood
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Thanks dobfarm
I've added an EDIT to last posting, to keep added info together.
Yes Armin (in Nicholson & Ors to Collinson 1838 property Deed [involving George Hood] ), and Airmyn are likely one of the same, as you suggest.
I am most interested in obtaining Yorkshire FISHER Wills, to check for any relationships to a Hood.
Noted an 1831 Jane Fisher (wife of John Fisher) listed in the Selby Wills Index 1681 to 1858 and an
Admin., Stephen Hood, June 1857 Great Edston (but after the 1827-29 Farm Sale Adverts).
I need to check out the John Hood signatures on the Bonds, Licences & Marriages entries you gave me, (noted down).
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Footnote
Remember BT's entries are only copies of the marriage transcribed signatures written by someone else, therefore need original church image (film/fiche photo copy ) entries of marriage signature of groom.
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Fisher ?
Marriage
Robert Fisher X Mary Hood
14 Feb 1799
Great Edstone,York,England
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Fisher ?
Marriage
Robert Fisher X Mary Hood
14 Feb 1799
Great Edstone,York,England
Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
Thanks for the Fisher - Hood / Gt. Edstone info.
After weeks of waiting, I have a scanning price for ...
[H1830 N2]. Short title: Nicholson v Nicholson. Document type: Bill and three answers. Plaintiffs: Charlotte Nicholson. Defendants: Bridget Nicholson, William Rowland, Abraham Hodgson and Samuel Nicholson. revived Hilary 1837 Dated 1830.
A year later, all the above Defendants were involved in a property transfer to George Hood and James Collinson in 1838, but whether the Case will mention George Hood is unknown, but shall know, soon.
Marriage Register Entries and Comments
I have the Marriage Register entries & signatures of:-
Elizabeth Spencer to John Leppington (1756)
Eliz Leppington to John Hood (1763)
and believe you are likely correct regarding the mother of Maudland Hood, who we believed was also buried at the time of Maudland Hood's 1775 Baptism.
However, John Hood's 8 December 1763 signature, does not match the:-
1778 John Hood mariner of Scarborough X Sarah Hammond Bond, nor
1793 November Scalby Marriage Register entry John Hood, Farmer to Jane Newby, Spinster ???
Regarding the 1793 Hood X Newby marriage, I wondered if these, were likely their entries in the following Census:-
1841 Cloughton
John Hood aged 70 Farmer
Janie Hood aged 70
etc.
1851 Census Cloughton Newlands [I have the Sale Advert confirming Occupier, which he must have purchased]
John Hood Head, Mar, 80 Freeholder Farmer of 40 Acres, born Yorkshire Stainton Dale
Jane Hood Wife, Mar, 82, born Yorkshire Scalby ?abbs
John Hood and Jane Marshall 1765
In view of this, I have ordered the 28 March 1765 John Hood to Jane Marshall, York Marriage Allegation, Bond and Licence (only a few Licences survive, I am told), as ages possibly match Selby burials of Jane (15 August 1803, aged 65) and John Hood (4 April 1819, aged 82)
Hood Burials Mystery
George Hood died "at Selby" 18 September 1845, "Disease of the Heart 18 months certified" aged 60 yrs, Tanner & Brewer. Three newspapers say 63 yrs, but 28 years old in 1815 (Marriage Allegation, Bond & Register), so possibly 59 years?
Birthplace unknown - hence my post, for burial information only.
Sarah Hood, widow, died 11 Gowthorpe, Selby 28 November 1879, aged 86 yrs (wife of the above), baptised Selby, but hopefully buried with late husband, George?
Or their adult childrens burial places (all children Baptised Selby Parish) ...
Richard Hood, d. Selby 2 May 1850, aged 23 yrs (newspapers 23/ 24 yrs);
Sarah Hood, died Wren Lane, Selby 22 September 1853, aged 18 years;
Mary Hood, died Wren Lane, Selby 24 November 1854, aged 34 years;
Ellen Hood, died Wren Lane, Selby 27 July 1855, aged 23 years
Wish they were online.
Thanks, Mark
EDIT: The 1787 Gateshead Directory for John Hood, says:-
Hood John, publican, ship, South-shore
Online search suggests the Ship was the name of an Inn.
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Fisher ?
Marriage
Robert Fisher X Mary Hood
14 Feb 1799
Great Edstone,York,England
Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
Thanks for the Fisher - Hood / Gt. Edstone link.
After weeks of waiting, I have a scanning price for ...
[H1830 N2]. Short title: Nicholson v Nicholson. Document type: Bill and three answers. Plaintiffs: Charlotte Nicholson. Defendants: Bridget Nicholson, William Rowland, Abraham Hodgson and Samuel Nicholson. revived Hilary 1837 Dated 1830.
A year later, all the above Defendants were involved in a property transfer to George Hood and James Collinson in 1838, but whether the Case will mention George Hood is unknown. I'm not hopeful, but will order it.
Marriage Register Entries and Comments
I have the Marriage Register entries & signatures of:-
Elizabeth Spencer to John Leppington (1756)
Eliz Leppington to John Hood (1763)
and believe you are likely correct regarding the mother of Maudland Hood, who we believed was also buried at the time of Maudland Hood's 1775 Baptism.
However, John Hood's 8 December 1763 signature, does not match the:-
1778 John Hood mariner of Scarborough X Sarah Hammond Bond, nor
1793 November Scalby Marriage Register entry John Hood, Farmer to Jane Newby, Spinster ???
Regarding the 1793 Hood X Newby marriage, I wondered if these, were likely their entries in the following Census:-
1841 Cloughton
John Hood aged 70 Farmer
Janie Hood aged 70
etc.
1851 Census Cloughton Newlands [I have the Sale Advert confirming Occupier, which he must have purchased]
John Hood Head, Mar, 80 Freeholder Farmer of 40 Acres, born Yorkshire Stainton Dale
Jane Hood Wife, Mar, 82, born Yorkshire Scalby ?abbs
John Hood and Jane Marshall 1765
In view of this, I have ordered the 28 March 1765 John Hood to Jane Marshall, York Marriage Allegation, Bond and Licence (only a few Licences survive, I am told), as ages possibly match Selby burials of Jane (15 August 1803, aged 65) and John Hood (4 April 1819, aged 82)
Hood Burials Mystery
George Hood died "at Selby" 18 September 1845, "Disease of the Heart 18 months certified" aged 60 yrs, Tanner & Brewer. Three newspapers say 63 yrs, but 28 years old in 1815 (Marriage Allegation, Bond & Register), so possibly 59 years?
Birthplace unknown - hence my post, for burial information only.
Sarah Hood, widow, died 11 Gowthorpe, Selby 28 November 1879, aged 86 yrs (wife of the above), baptised Selby, but hopefully buried with late husband, George?
Or their adult childrens burial places (all children Baptised Selby Parish) ...
Richard Hood, d. Selby 2 May 1850, aged 23 yrs (newspapers 23/ 24 yrs);
Sarah Hood, died Wren Lane, Selby 22 September 1853, aged 18 years;
Mary Hood, died Wren Lane, Selby 24 November 1854, aged 34 years;
Ellen Hood, died Wren Lane, Selby 27 July 1855, aged 23 years
Wish they were online.
Thanks, Mark
EDIT: The 1787 Gateshead Directory for John Hood, says:-
Hood John, publican, ship, South-shore
Online search suggests the Ship was the name of an Inn.
Working on Maudland Hood marriage to Turner Selby father John Hood of Selby (Scarborough) mother Eliz Spencer (Thought first marriage Leppington) of Scarborough
Quote:
Marriage Register entries & signatures of:-
Elizabeth Spencer to John Leppington (1756)
Eliz Leppington to John Hood (1763)
unquote:
These signature are the masters and in my opinion only ~ the first real positive step rung of your ladder (Scarbough Hood's)
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
Thanks, I'll get the Hood X Gibson marriage.
Wondered, what you make of the following, in relation to George A. Hood? ...
Is it poor transcribing of a record, was a Hood lineage declared to Scotland, or perhaps he moved to / his ship left from Scotland and the transcriber has got it confused?
NATURALIZATIONS IN CASS COUNTY DISTRICT COURT
GEORGE A. HOOD: February 7, 1939; Vol. K, page 274; Case file 11901-11960; Scotland. In his declaration for citizenship Mr. Hood stated that he was born in Selby, Yorkshire, Scotland in the British Empire on July 23, 1862 and was not more than 75 years of age. He had immigrated to the United States from the Kingdom alone on February 21, 1882 and landed at the Port of New York. He further represented to the Court that he had married May Ella MICHIE, a native born American at Mt. Pleasant, Titus County, July 4, 1888 and that he was the father of eight children. George A. (Arundel) HOOD is a lateral ancestor of CCGS member Richard Taylor in Derby, England who submitted the following information. George Hood moved his family to Cass County in about 1907 to join the New Hope Seventh Day Adventist Church near Marietta.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~txcass/resources/court_rec/naturalization.html
Thinking of tracing the Court file, but any official scan online of the Court document, please?
Kind regards Mark
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George Arundel Hood birth 3rd qtr 1865 Selby county of York, England
Don't know what to think of the Cass county George A Hood. ??? (Unless there is a Selby in a district called Scotland in one of the dominion of the old British empire (similar to Caribbean Islands or Pacific Islands) ( Sounds like USA LDS elastic ancestry stuff with their usual big sledge hammer with variable vague posh words to make matters fit ???)
Sound like a scam email I got saying 'click on Log on link' bellow (should have said below)
Back to reality!
Sarah Hood (Russel) burial 1879 being 34 years (A long period gap)
after George Hood death 1845 most likely buried with hubby George
That gap period suggests there is a positive reason for Hood missing burials from Selby PR being their place of death in Selby, Yorkshire, England.
Find Sarah, finds George, finds a parish burial graveyard with his other deceased relatives of his!! maybe.
Only other probable answer maybe was Selby cemetery was an overflow parish Selby Abbey burial ground with separate lost records of burials before becoming an official separate cemetery with its own burial records being official like 1858 from parish registers ???.
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Interesting - as below - a vague picture formulating in the fog with a connection on ---- Booze and hard dates
Quote -Mark
EDIT: The 1787 Gateshead Directory for John Hood, says:-
Hood John, publican, ship, South-shore
Online search suggests the Ship was the name of an Inn.
unquote
George baptized 1786 Gateshead son of John Hood
If the father was the same John Hood the publican 1787 trades
Link Year unknown ? 2nd column-
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/19128/page/288/data.pdf
George Hood d 1845 age 28 in 1815 marriage = b 1787
Copper barrel maker ( could be considered part of one trade brewing)
Brewer
Publicans + reason to move about the country
Small Pubs/Inns brewed their own beer them days
Family business ?
http://reed.dur.ac.uk/xtf/view?docId=ead/dpr/dpr1-2-2.xml
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
Thanks dobfarm, but have to bear in mind 1841 Census suggests George Hood (Selby) was born Yorkshire.
Waiting for Hood x Marshall, York paperwork and copies of ...
H1830 N2]. Short title: Nicholson v Nicholson. Document type: Bill and three answers. Plaintiffs: Charlotte Nicholson. Defendants: Bridget Nicholson, William Rowland, Abraham Hodgson and Samuel Nicholson. revived Hilary 1837 Dated 1830.
George Hood and Edward Parker are Signatories with others in an 1838 Selby property deal, involving the above Bridget Nicholson; Rowland; Hodgson and Samuel Nicholson (Heir to Samuel Nicholson), with a few others when Ousegate, Selby, transfers to Collinson.
Another (possibly related June 1832 cancellation of Sale) suggests property in Ousegate and by the River at Selby and Monk Fryston was assigned, when "Messrs, Scholefield and Clough", Selby Bankers got into money trouble.
Doing my regular 5 minute Hood/Selby search, I find a Tim Schofield on flickr with this picture of the Selby grave of Matthew Hood, Surgeon, dying 1717 and wife Elizabeth Hood dying 1832 ...
Our photo of the same grave is in two parts, but photo is here ...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxtree1/20770860885
Kind regards, Mark
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1871c and later census years say my granddad born in Bolsover 1866 Derbyshire but his father and mother married in Waleswood village in Wales parish near Rotherham Yorkshire 1866 and their son my granddad baptized in Wales parish (Waleswood) Yorkshire Jan 1867. They later moved to Bolsover 1868 when granddads brother was baptized in Bolsover 1868.
1841 census is notorious for being wrong.
Rule out nothing.
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your quote
The 1787 Gateshead Directory for John Hood, says:-
Hood John, publican, ship, South-shore
Online search suggests the Ship was the name of an Inn.
unquote
Unncanny parallels in business of general to your George of Selby-
Morpeth -George Hood a Maltster (Brewer) and elected overseer of poor in 1830's in Morpeth
1827 trades directory
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=YAsHAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=morpeth+northumberland+trade+directories&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
Morpeth village
Page 454 Hotels, Inns and Taverns - Lord Hood (Prob - pub name), George Hood, Silver Street
Page 456 Maltster George Hood Silver street
More references to this George Hood malster/brewer and elected overseer of poor 1830's
http://www.morpethherald.co.uk/news/the-battle-to-ensure-the-east-coast-line-came-to-morpeth-1-6243672
http://www.morpethherald.co.uk/news/shaking-up-the-system-to-support-the-poor-together-1-6158915
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/818decf4-d3e4-41b2-8f78-0a97325cf097
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/bd87b66c-7310-4874-b94e-47fdcdebc636
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Hello dobfarm
Thanks.
George Hood of Morpeth, Wells Hood of York and George Hood of Selby, were not only businessmen in their respective places, but were public sprited.
Wells Hood, it seems was also a Councillor at York and George Hood of Morpeth are recorded at Public Meetings, supporting Election candidates and fighting for public causes and rights.
TNA, Kew, Cat. ref. IR 1/68 Duties paid on Indentures [Apprenticeships] - free pdf download (about pdf page 92), folio 46
3 Aug 1796 Edw'd Embleton, Morpeth Co of Northumberland, Butcher, Apprentice George Hood
Food, mainly drink as you rightly say, seems to be common amongst these Hoods!
Kind regards, Mark
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Noted:-
Newcastle Courant 14 April 1848
At Morpeth, on the 8th inst, aged 68, much respected, Mr George Hood.
I am not sure if the duty was paid, at the start, or end of his Apprenticeship (previous post above).
Mark
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Hello All
I see Naval documents are on FindMyPast and our Library now has an FindMyPast
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=746309.0;topicseen
The only thing I recall, is my Grandmother speaking generally about the likelihood of a Hood Scottish origin and a debate was going on between my Grandmother and my other Grandparents as to the Hood origin, as my mother's parents had gone with us.
The other thing was Charity, the RNLI was and is favoured on the Hood side and Guide Dogs for the blind on my mother's side. We were always encouraged as tots to put a few pence of our tiny pocket money, into collections.
I see online there were Hoods at Seaton Carew and Hartlepool connected with the Lifeboat and Henry Hood won an award
http://www.hhtandn.org/venues/664/lifeboats
I'm suggesting a holiday to the Hull / Beverley area, I expect my wife will head for the shops!
Most of our Hoods have never followed the established church, so I would not be surprised to find dissent on the Hood side at Selby, with George being a bit of a charitable ringleader of dissent, whilst being cautious, but successful in business and treating people fairly.
I have traced a Hood relative, exchanged photocopies and he confirms that his father (my grandfather's brother) told him, we originate from Selby, hence my interest, with the 1717 and 1732 Hood graves in Selby Abbey and the M.I., at Thorganby.
An early 19th Century book lists Selby as a hotbed of religious dissent and the Church didn't like it. Some vicars even refused to bury infants dying in their parish and the parents and friends had to pay extra costs, to have them buried elsewhere, according to an old newspaper.
Kind regards, Mark
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Forget HMS Victory and Nelson.
My father said, we were returning from I of W and he wanted to see Nelson's Ship, HMS Victory, Mark
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Hello All
Signatures
Looking at the George Hood signature (on my avatar / icon, top left of each of my posts), from the 20th January 1838 property Conveyance Mrs Bridget Nicholson and Others to Mr James Collinson and comparing with the signature on the May 1815 Marriage Allegation and Bond of George Hood of Selby to Sarah Russel, it is my feeling that these are two different, but related George Hoods.
When their son, George Hood married Ann Marrison, on 6 December 1855 at the Parish Church of Selby, he was aged 32, a "bachelor", "farmer", residing at Selby.
Another property Memorial from Wakefield mentions George Hood widower, so we can rule out the son George, a "bachelor" marrying Ann Marison.
George Hood [married to Sarah Hood nee Russel in 1815] was a Cooper, who diversified into Brewing according to their marriage and childrens baptism documents and on George Hood's 1846 Probate, it says he was a Tanner and Brewer.
We know when Sarah Hood, nee Russel was baptised, as she is in the Register at Selby and her age matches exactly at death in November 1879, but her Death Certificate, also confirms she was the Widow of George Hood, Tanner deceased [whom we know died in September 1845 aged 60 and a "Tanner" on his Death Certificate] with the Probate the following year, confirming he was a Tanner and Brewer.
Looking at other property Memorials, it is my view we have a "George Hood" and a separate "George Hood of Selby Brewer" and as one Memorial said that one George Hood was a "Widower", it is my current view that a relation (probably the father) of George Hood who married Sarah Russel at Selby in 1815, was also George Hood.
Considering the George Hood Widower reference and looking at the signatures - May 1815 Selby Marriage Allegation Bond and the January 1838 property Conveyance Bridget Nicholson and Others to James Collinson, it is my feeling that whilst they have similar handwriting characteristics, they are likely two different George Hood signatures, as they end quite differently.
I feel we might be looking for another earlier George Hood (who owned a part share, or interest in the Selby properties, in Ousegate along with Nicholson; William Bowland; Abraham Hodgson; Edward Parker; Samuel Smith; George Smith; Wm Mitton and Hannah Carter Clark).
There is no reference to George Hood of Selby being Heir at Law to a George Hood in the 1838 Deed Memorial, so if my theory is right, the other George Hood was likely still alive in 1838 when the wheeling and dealing was taking place.
However, the Selby Land Tax, does not appear to support a second earlier George Hood being a property owner at Selby, but perhaps (the unknown) George Hood's share was in the name of one of the Others, in the Land Tax.
TNA, have told me the 1830 to 1837 Chancery Case will take two more weeks, before I get the scans, hopefully this might shed some more light on the matter.
Kind regards, Mark
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The George Hood widower 1838 Selby memorial deed with a seemingly different signature to your George Hood death 1845, married to Sarah nee Russel-(Hood) (or Russell) who was alive in 1838 to your George Hood the Cooper at marriage 1815 Selby. You say the memorial deed mentions no link as any heir connection your to George the cooper of Wren lane, later tanner, brewer and overseer of the parish poor in the 1830's
R Gibson the cooper Wren lane, Selby was advertising for trained coopers 1800 ish
Sarah (Russel) Hood died 1879 and George Hood her husband with trades as cooper, tanner, brewer, and some of their children from the marriage all not buried in Selby (all in reality buried where ??? over a 30 year period gap)
As I have said before Jane Hood age 65 1803 (Born 1738 ) at burial Selby wife of John Hood the mariner and a John Hood burial 1819 Selby no occupation given died aged 82 (Born 1737) seemed by age possible grandparents of George Hood husband of Sarah (nee Russel ) Hood 1815 George aged 28 (Born 1787)
Therefore a scenario was the unknown history of George Hood the widower the son of John Hood born 1738 (poss -Scarborough ?) and said George the widower father of George Hood d 1845 husband of Sarah (Russel) Hood
dad
John Hood born 1737 died 1819 Selby
son
George Hood the widower (poss born 1765 to 1768)
his son George Hood b 1787 died 1845 a cooper/tanner/brewer and grandson of John Hood died 1819
(George Hood death 1848 aged 68 of Morpeth occupation booze maker and seller ruled out as 'George Hood the widower' as too young to fit this scenario)
The plot goes on and...........................on
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Hello All
... 20th January 1838 property Conveyance Mrs Bridget Nicholson and Others to Mr James Collinson ...
Another property Memorial from Wakefield mentions George Hood widower, ...
I feel we might be looking for another earlier George Hood (who owned a part share, or interest in the Selby properties, in Ousegate along with Nicholson; William Bowland; Abraham Hodgson; Edward Parker; Samuel Smith; George Smith; Wm Mitton and Hannah Carter Clark).
There is no reference to George Hood of Selby being Heir at Law to a George Hood in the 1838 Deed Memorial, ...
Kind regards, Mark
A newspaper search using the names and their locations, given in the 1838 property Deed registration copy Nicholson and Others to James Collinson [full title Mrs Bridget Nicholson and Others to Mr James Collinson]
Re Smiths in the 1838 Deed registration copy - Samuel Smith of Armin and George Smith of Goole Surgeon, the sons of George Smith of Armin Pastures, Farmer
The newspaper search "Smith of Armin" gives ...
London Evening Standard 6 May 1836
Apothecaries Hall.
Court of Examiners granted Certificates to
"George Nicholson Smith of Armin Pastures"
So when "George Smith of Goole Surgeon" qualifies, his full name was George Nicholson Smith, so the newspaper indicates the Smiths in the 1838 property deal were related to the Nicholsons, [possibly a marriage].
I'm thinking, if one of the "Others" the Smiths, conveying the property in 1838 with Mrs Bridget Nicholson of Rawcliffe, are now found to be linked to Nicholson, perhaps the others are related, including my George Hood.
"George Smith" and his brother are the third party, of nine parties ("George Hood" being the eight party) in the 1838 property Release. The Smiths were obviously related to Nicholson, as George Smith used the middle name Nicholson, when he qualified.
According to an old 19th Century book about Nancy Nicholson of Rawcliffe / Snaith, it mentions a Charity for educating children too, which I have only snippet read.
Samuel Nicholson, owned a vessel and was a Merchant, his son Samuel was an Innkeeper.
The copy Deeds at Wakefield are only summaries for registration of property. This research about one of the Smith brothers in the copy Deed and one Smith having the middle name Nicholson, are not mentioned in the copy Deed.
It seems Yorkshire families kept their property divided up into shares, or parts, amongst the family members.
I'm hoping the Nicholson Chancery case 1830, revived 1837, with the Bills and the three Answers, will shed more light on it and whether G.H. is related to one of the other parties.
Kind regards, Mark
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Very vague long shot but possible as mystery George Hood widower in deed memorials ???
This George Hood b 1769 possible father of George Hood died 1845 if your George was born 1787 to 1790
George Hood
Birth Date 1769
Age 30
Spouse's Name Mary Smith
Spouse's Birth Date 1769
Spouse's Age 30
Event Date 25 Apr 1799
Event Place York, England
Need to see the actual Bond allegation forms for parish of residence of each of the marriage intended couple (Kirby Hill, Ripon ?)
Also this above George (status at intent to marry-could be 1st time widower by 1799 going by his age 30 ) could have married (a first marriage say 1788) twice and still be a 2nd time widower by the 1830's
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:( My microscope now in the bottom of barrel- may hand search barrel over to FBI forensic atomic microscope and find DNA of builder of barrel ~~~~the ruddy Copper --Yoke ! :)
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Transcript of the Allegation -
George Hood - 30 of Kirkby Hill
Mary Smith - 30 of Ripon
Intended venue - Ripon Collegiate, 25 April 1799 - can't see any parish records.
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Not only reaching the "bottom of the barrel" but dizzy going round in circles. I think we've already looked at the George Hood in Kirby Hill/Milby and Mark sent for his will dated 1836?
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Thank you for replies.
The handwritten (not handwritten on printed form) 1802 Selby Land Tax folio 16 on Ancestry has:-
Proprietor Mr Spencer
Occupiers Mr Hood
R. Nicholson
I am also wondering now, if I have more that one Mr Spencer owning property at Selby, so ordering some property searches, (Spencer and Nicholson).
Regarding the 20th January 1838 property Conveyance Mrs Bridget Nicholson and Others to Mr James Collinson involving a George Hood, also named in the same as George Hood of Selby Brewer. The parties are:-
The Lease made Between
William Bowland late of Rawcliffe in the Parish of Snaith in the County of York Farmer but now of Hollington in the said county of York Labourer
Abraham Hodgson of the town and county of Kingston upon Hull Gentleman and
Hannah Carter Clark of Howden in the said County of York only child and Heiress at Law of John Clark late of Potter Grange in the Township of Armin and County of York Farmer deceased of the one part and
George Hood of Selby in the County of York aforesaid Brewer of the other part and
the Release made Between
Bridget Nicholson of Rawcliffe aforesaid widow of Samuel Nicholson late of the same place Innkeeper deceased of the first part
Samuel Nicholson of Rawcliffe aforesaid the only Son and Heir at Law of the said Samuel Nicholson deceased of the second part
Samuel Smith of Armin Pastures in the said County of York Gentleman and George Smith of Goole in the said county of York Surgeon the sons of George Smith of Armin Pastures aforesaid Farmer of the third part
William Bowland and Abraham Hodgson of the forth part
Hannah Carter Clark of the fifth part
William Mitton late of Selby in the county of york aforesaid but now of Stamford in the County of Lincoln Gentleman of the sixth part
James Collinson of Selby aforesaid Shoemaker of the seventh part
the said George Hood of the eighth part and
Edward Parker of the same place Gentleman of the ninth part ...
property listed and occupiers
If George Hood's father was a Protestant Dissenter (apparently the Unitarian Church at Selby goes back before the Selby Independent / Congregational), I have found no Register yet before 1811.
Mr Hood in the Selby Land Tax, was in Selby Land Tax, the first one online is circa 1781.
But this Land Tax of 1802 of Occupiers Mr Hood and R. Nicholson occupying Tenements of Mr Spencer.
It could be that a Hood has married into one of the owning parties (not necessarily a George Hood), or perhaps George Hood was a Trustee on Samuel Nicholson's Will.
I'll keep digging.
Regards Mark
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Thank you for replies.
The handwritten (not handwritten on printed form) 1802 Selby Land Tax folio 16 on Ancestry has:-
Proprietor Mr Spencer
Occupiers Mr Hood
R. Nicholson
I am also wondering now, if I have more that one Mr Spencer owning property at Selby, so ordering some property searches, (Spencer and Nicholson).
Regarding the 20th January 1838 property Conveyance Mrs Bridget Nicholson and Others to Mr James Collinson involving a George Hood, also named in the same as George Hood of Selby Brewer. The parties are:-
The Lease made Between
William Bowland late of Rawcliffe in the Parish of Snaith in the County of York Farmer but now of Hollington in the said county of York Labourer
Abraham Hodgson of the town and county of Kingston upon Hull Gentleman and
Hannah Carter Clark of Howden in the said County of York only child and Heiress at Law of John Clark late of Potter Grange in the Township of Armin and County of York Farmer deceased of the one part and
George Hood of Selby in the County of York aforesaid Brewer of the other part and
the Release made Between
Bridget Nicholson of Rawcliffe aforesaid widow of Samuel Nicholson late of the same place Innkeeper deceased of the first part
Samuel Nicholson of Rawcliffe aforesaid the only Son and Heir at Law of the said Samuel Nicholson deceased of the second part
Samuel Smith of Armin Pastures in the said County of York Gentleman and George Smith of Goole in the said county of York Surgeon the sons of George Smith of Armin Pastures aforesaid Farmer of the third part
William Bowland and Abraham Hodgson of the forth part
Hannah Carter Clark of the fifth part
William Mitton late of Selby in the county of york aforesaid but now of Stamford in the County of Lincoln Gentleman of the sixth part
James Collinson of Selby aforesaid Shoemaker of the seventh part
the said George Hood of the eighth part and
Edward Parker of the same place Gentleman of the ninth part ...
property listed and occupiers
If George Hood's father was a Protestant Dissenter (apparently the Unitarian Church at Selby goes back before the Selby Independent / Congregational), I have found no Register yet before 1811.
Mr Hood in the Selby Land Tax, was in Selby Land Tax, the first one online is circa 1781.
But this Land Tax of 1802 of Occupiers Mr Hood and R. Nicholson occupying Tenements of Mr Spencer.
It could be that a Hood has married into one of the owning parties (not necessarily a George Hood), or perhaps George Hood was a Trustee on Samuel Nicholson's Will.
I'll keep digging.
Regards Mark
Unitarian Church at Selby is a good possibility and explain a lot - but why would George d 1845 go back to Anglican parish baptisms events of his children.
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I have got to exercise a bit patience and wait for the document.
Thanks Mark
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If you can find a repository (library) that store these books
1805-7 Holden's Triennial Directory for 1805, 1806, 1807
1811. Holden's annual London and country directory of the United Kingdoms & Wales, in three volumes,
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Not only reaching the "bottom of the barrel" but dizzy going round in circles. I think we've already looked at the George Hood in Kirby Hill/Milby and Mark sent for his will dated 1836?
Hi Goughy,
Reason revised George Hood Kirby hill, in regard to Smith issue (bride to be Mary Smith) mentioned in Mark's 1830's documents. - Mind you : - Smith is one of the most common surnames there is and could be a bit hard to prove anything. ???
It reminds of joke !
England v Wales rugby match
Supporters of Wales at Twickenham railway station : -young office girl puts call over the speakers - "Would Mr Jones go to the reception deck please". ;D ;D ;D
Dobby
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Hello
I seem to think that Mr Hood was last in the Selby Land Tax in 1802 (which I have a scan of).
I've enquired and hoping Mr Hood was finally too poor to pay Land Tax and that he appears in the Selby Overseers Assessments up to 1808 and they mention George.
Having a Selby Deed check, for the Proprietors of the property occupied by Mr Hood as it seems to have changed ownership.
Waiting for the York Marr Allegation / Bond for John Hood X Jane Marshall, to see if he was a Mariner and look at signature.
Kind regards, Mark
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If there an answer of George Hood d 1845 origins ? it will come from Richard Gibson and George Hood the coopers Wren Lane Selby from doc's (Maybe before 1807) 1807 to 1812 being the earliest known info of George Hood pre his marriage 1815 aged 28.
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If there an answer of George Hood d 1845 origins ? it will come from Richard Gibson and George Hood the coopers Wren Lane Selby from doc's (Maybe before 1807) 1807 to 1812 being the earliest known info of George Hood pre his marriage 1815 aged 28.
Thanks for your continued interest.
Goughy, had checked George Hood on Ancestry for an Ale-house Licences.
So I have asked the archive, if they also have a "Private Brewer" Application and Excise Licence 1824 to 1826 for George, as Private Brewers also paid duty.
The premises in Wren Lane were purchased by George from Lord Petre and the Earl of Surrey, involving a Charles Henry Pigot of Great Marlborough Street, Middlesex, Gentleman, William Mafrey[?] of Selby and Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby Merchant.
The 1836 Deed registration to George Hood, confirms the Wren Lane premises were previously occupied by Richard Gibson AND Thomas Holliday, but now of the said George Hood and his Undertenants.
George Hood had diversified into brewing around 1825 and a Brewhouse was adjoining in the Deed.
Perhaps George was never a Cooper, but employed to turn around Gibson's Cooper business and my father said these were usually Chartered Accountants.
It is like George Hood is an alien, fallen out of the sky ;D ??? ;D
Mark
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An alien journeyman businessman/cooper from somewhere (where he's buried ??? family with a bob or two - family burial area plot) to Selby, met Sarah Russel and settled there, more likely.
Lease release and assignment of mortgage as described in DDX31/121 Date 10-11 Nov 1736 Description Parties:
1) Tristram Hood, now of Thornton, Sarah Musgrave
2) Robert Gibson and his trustee John Gibson both of Thornton
Property: as described in DDX31/120
Consideration: £60 to Sarah Musgrave and £33 to Tristram Hood
Witnesses: William Thompson, George Young and William Gibson
DDX31/120
Lease and release for land in South Duffield
Date 3-4 Jun 1723
Description Parties:
1) Markham Hadlesay son and heir of Pelham Hadlesay deceased., both of South Duffield gentlemen, and Frances Hadlesay of Hemingbrough spinster, a daughter of Pelham Hadlesay
2) Tristram Hood of South Duffield, yeoman
Property: messuage, garth, close called the Shaw and specified lands in Woormfield and Mill Field
Witnesses: John Gillyatt, W[?]Harrison and Peter Clarke
Tristram Hood X Elizabeth Lockwood
marriage:
6 October 1712
Skirpenbeck, York, England
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Trustrum Hood X Mary Clark
marriage:
31 July 1722
Hemingbrough (Selby), York, England
Clark connection maybe
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742806.msg5939131#msg5939131
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742805.msg5855816#msg5855816
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
Thanks for that info.
The phrase used by West Yorks Archives is that only "select" apprenticeships are online.
An 1811 West Riding Apprenticeship, was signed by the Justice of the Peace ...
http://www.mylearning.org/apprentices/images/3-2385/
If a J.P., was involved, I presume that these will be in the Quarter Sessions records.
TNA IR 1/70 lists are Master/ Apprentice lists, where Duty was Paid.
Northallerton who hold the Selby Urban District Records are stating this online:-
Overseers of the Poor papers including Apprenticeship indentures, vouchers and correspondence 1829 - 1835. If mentioned in the Vestry Minutes, these start 1790, but failed to ask at the Borthwick, as one has originals and the other has the film, I think.
Regards Mark
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Only Selby Cooper found in IR 1/70 list (going backward), from 1802:-
Master Geo Scowby, Selby Co. of York Cooper, Apprentice Thos Hobman.
Kind regards, Mark
EDIT:-
In Llandudno Register and Herald 18 July 1889
Address Mrs Evans, Shrewsbury ho, Church Walks, Llandudno
Mr, Ms and Miss Barber, Bangor
Mr, Mrs and Master Smith, New Brighton
Mr, Mrs & Master Dickinson, Darlington
Miss Hood, Selby
Perhaps Miss Hood was only there on holiday.
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H Mark
Now the gardening season is here again: I'll give George a rest awhile, but keep east of the river Ouse on the back burner: being a triangle from Hemingbrough, Cliffe , to York with villages inbetween up to Pockington ~~~ Beverley archives or East Yorkshire county records office Beverley as a lot of their info is not online.
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy and Bumblebee
Thanks for all your help, I was going to suggest the same.
Mark
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Hi All,
Don't get excited, no look-up req'd, but posting an update.
Got the actual copy 1795 & 1803 pages of the Selby Register, mentioning John Hood of Selby, mariner.
I'm told, that a John Hood was occupying a house in Micklegate, Selby and the house changed hands in 1802. I have ordered copies and hoping to discover which John Spencer owned it.
Alien, George though, is proving his rather elusive self!!
Kind regards, Mark
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=747172
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/selby.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=747346.0
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Hello All
Been looking at the John Hood of Pickering in the County of York Bleacher and Jane Marshall, York Marriage Bond, dated 28 March 1765.
It said he was a Bleacher, so this John Hood was probably the same as the John Hood at Middleton in 1807:-
Middleton, John Hood, a bleacher (1807 Poll Book - Pickering Lythe)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=grUHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA302&lpg=PA302&dq=Middleton,+John+Hood+bleacher+1807&source=bl&ots=3LZbyaI7mG&sig=OxuQiWGIEa15q34_75h7iHZOBa8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiX4vyWhsrMAhUlKsAKHWZAAjcQ6AEIHTAB
A Small Hood / Selby find but nothing to get excited about (but gives more detail to the Selby Land Tax John Hood entry of 1802)
Spencer to Hembrough Indenture of Lease and Release 8 & 9th Days of October 1802.
Between John Spencer of Selby in the County of York Gentleman of the one part and Thomas Hembrough of the same place Yeoman of the other part ...
Concerning all that Messuage now used as two Dwelling Houses or Tenements with the Garth Garden or Orchard and other the premises thereto belonging situate lying and being Selby aforesaid in a certain Street there called Millgate and now in the Tenures or Occupations of John Hood and Robat Nicholson or their undertenants Together with all and Singular houses outhouses edifices buildings ways waters watercourses walls party walls easements profits advantages hereditaments and appurtenances whatsoever to the said Messuage Dwelling houses or Tenements and premises belonging or in any wise appertaining except the common right belonging to the said Messuage or Dwellinghouses which is now allotted to the said John Spencer and intended to be awarded to him and his Heirs ...
Comment, I get the feeling that this would be the house of John Hood the Mariner in Millgate, Selby. Sadly no reference, nor link to George. However, a word of caution, although John Hood was shown as the Land Tax payer (online), this document refers to possible Undertenants, so one, or both occupiers could be sub-letting. However, Jane wife of John Hood of Selby mariner is buried at Selby on 15 August 1803, aged 65, in the Selby Churchyard, suggesting they were Selby based.
The John Spencer of Selby, Gentleman is possibly the one who died at Selby in 1809 and if so, the one mentioned in the 1810 Will Abstract and linked to John Spencer of Conisbrough Park.
Regards Mark
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A note about using Land Tax records.
Selby was a Manor, along with other individual owners of property.
I have been researching our local Manor AND also our pub within the same Manor and township bounds.
I have our surviving Land Tax Records p/copied every 3 to 4 years for the whole Manor over a 30 year period.
However, the Owners and Licensees of the pub renewing their Common-inn and Ale-house License each year, do not feature in the Land Tax, so not every property was, it seems subject to Land Tax.
So a disappearance, or non-appearance of a person, in the local Land Tax records, may not always mean the person has moved, or is living elsewhere.
Land Tax records, also need to be checked against surviving Manor Rentals and Surveys (naming the Tenants of the local Lord/s and often their fields), or Parish Tithe (Awards Apportionments) or other records such as Inclosure Maps, if you are tracing an individual.
A local Selby chap has a copy of the Selby Inclosure Map, but informs me, no Hoods mentioned in the Inclosure Award.
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Hello All
Been looking at the John Hood of Pickering in the County of York Bleacher and Jane Marshall, York Marriage Bond, dated 28 March 1765.
It said he was a Bleacher, so this John Hood was probably the same as the John Hood at Middleton in 1807:-
Middleton, John Hood, a bleacher (1807 Poll Book - Pickering Lythe)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=grUHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA302&lpg=PA302&dq=Middleton,+John+Hood+bleacher+1807&source=bl&ots=3LZbyaI7mG&sig=OxuQiWGIEa15q34_75h7iHZOBa8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiX4vyWhsrMAhUlKsAKHWZAAjcQ6AEIHTAB
A Small Hood / Selby find but nothing to get excited about (but gives more detail to the Selby Land Tax John Hood entry of 1802)
Spencer to Hembrough Indenture of Lease and Release 8 & 9th Days of October 1802.
Between John Spencer of Selby in the County of York Gentleman of the one part and Thomas Hembrough of the same place Yeoman of the other part ...
Concerning all that Messuage now used as two Dwelling Houses or Tenements with the Garth Garden or Orchard and other the premises thereto belonging situate lying and being Selby aforesaid in a certain Street there called Millgate and now in the Tenures or Occupations of John Hood and Robat Nicholson or their undertenants Together with all and Singular houses outhouses edifices buildings ways waters watercourses walls party walls easements profits advantages hereditaments and appurtenances whatsoever to the said Messuage Dwelling houses or Tenements and premises belonging or in any wise appertaining except the common right belonging to the said Messuage or Dwellinghouses which is now allotted to the said John Spencer and intended to be awarded to him and his Heirs ...
Comment, I get the feeling that this would be the house of John Hood the Mariner in Millgate, Selby. Sadly no reference, nor link to George. However, a word of caution, although John Hood was shown as the Land Tax payer (online), this document refers to possible Undertenants, so one, or both occupiers could be sub-letting. However, Jane wife of John Hood of Selby mariner is buried at Selby on 15 August 1803, aged 65, in the Selby Churchyard, suggesting they were Selby based.
The John Spencer of Selby, Gentleman is possibly the one who died at Selby in 1809 and if so, the one mentioned in the 1810 Will Abstract and linked to John Spencer of Conisbrough Park.
Regards Mark
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Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee and All
George Hood's 1815 signature, is obviously someone who writes well. George's dealings suggest he is shrewd, organised and educated.
Looking at apprenticeship lists.
Yorkshire Cemetery Companies
I am enquiring about some others:-
The first trial burial at Hull General Cemetery Company, was after George Hood's September 1845 death.
York Cemetery (private company) has been checked.
The list of Leeds burials from 'Calverley Lad' seem to include Hoods in the Leeds Company Cemetery, but my George (1845) and widow not listed.
Sheffield and Rotherham to check.
Regarding the following, my father feels, that we would know if connected, although little was passed down, due to his father dying in 1940 and his Grandfather two years later:-
The chap who had the William Hood of Selby documents 1870 to 1895 has sent me this:-
Hood of Airmyn Hall, Goole
An "Assent" document of 1908, Executors of the Late Francis Wheler Viscount Hood, witnessed at the Buckingham Palace Hotel S.W.
The Assent is signed by Edith Lydia Drummond Hood (witnessed by Dorothy V Hood of The Manor House [?] Sussex, Spinster) and Alexander Frederick Hood (witnessed by Sibill Hood of Airmyn Hall, Goole) of Airmyn Hall, Goole in the County of York.
There are also references to Grosvenor Arthur Alexander Hood now Viscount Hood and another witness, a representative Captain Victor Napier Ward.
I've wondered for a long time if George came to Selby from the Navy, or if he was illegitimate of some family.
Kind regards Mark
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Outside royal title status
Viscount in England - a sheriff. = upperclass posh
??? related to a working lower class
a barrel maker, joiner, carpenter, woodworker come blacksmith = Cooper - a trademan/busnessman who works with his hands. ? in less than fifty years
Sometimes maids got pregnant by the master of a posh house-illegitimate like, maybe worth a look at and would explain difference in status of George Hood.
Would explain George's very rich wealth in George's own will in later years being 1845 originating from a will of a illegit posh father Hood
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Mark
This website http://www.howdenshirehistory.co.uk/goole/hood-gregory-airmyn.html is a local historian Sue Butler who has a wealth of knowledge of East Riding of Yorkshire.(Howden, Goole, Snaith)
Goughy
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Mark
This website http://www.howdenshirehistory.co.uk/goole/hood-gregory-airmyn.html is a local historian Sue Butler who has a wealth of knowledge of East Riding of Yorkshire.(Howden, Goole, Snaith)
Goughy
Hello Goughy and dobfarm and All
Thank you.
There is a chap online who claims to be related to Matthew Hood a Surgeon, buried in Selby Abbey in 1717.
I am wondering if he has traced his line bypassing my George Hood, possibly using a side-ways Hood relation?
He has visited the graves and places (not necessarily in this order) of:-
Christopher Bacon, Gent: who was buried the 4th Day of 8ber 1679 and likewise the body of Beatrix Bacon his Relict who departed this life on the 25th O May 172[?] [??stone damaged??] Year Of Her Age [Christofer Bacon Selby Transcriptions 4th October 1679].
Matthew Hood 1717, aged 59 and wife Elizabeth Hood's grave 1732 at Selby.
William Walker's 1811 grave, died 5th April, aged 32 at Selby.
Howden Minster [Definitely Hoods here historically].
Hemingbrough St Mary.
Hemingbrough, (a photo mentioning "History of Hemingbrough" by T. Burton Esq of Turnham Hall).
St Oswald at Hotham.
St Helen Auckland.
Picture taken on the Moor near Stanhope [Part of the Spencer family was from Stanhope].
Corbridge.
He also has the 4 following Robinson graves photographed amongst his collection of photos online:-
Headstone
Charles Robinson late of Etherley[?] who died August 12:1816 Aged 49 years
Also Pheby[picture pixilating] Wife of the above Who
died 1837 Aged 6 [3 or 8?]
And of Hannah Robinson
Wife of Christopher Robinson of
[?] Auckland and who departed this life
November 1846[?] Aged [5?2?] years.
Headstone
In Memory of Elizabeth Robinson.
Wife of Rohert Robinson[?] [pic pixillating] of West Auc
-kland who died January ??th
[other Robinson names]
Headstone
Nicholas Robinson
[remainder unreadable]
Headstone
John Young Robson
Son of John Ann Robson
[of ??unreadable??]
Who died March 2[?]1[?] 1834
Aged 2 years
Also William Robson
[lines underneath too small to see on reduced resolution photo]
Apparently they had something recorded "in paper" now lost.
Re William Walker, the Leeds Mercury 13 April 1811 ...
Yesterday se'nnight, after a short illness, Mr Wm. Walker of Selby, a trustee of the Selby Marine Association.
Seems this chap online, claims to be linked to HOOD of Selby via Robinson / Robson?
Thanks, Kind regards, Mark
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Hello All
Been looking at The History and Antiquities of the Parish of Hemingbrough in the County of York By Thomas Burton Esq., of Turnham Hall (1888) which is full of Robinson family references.
There is a reference to Samuel Hood and Byard. [Matthew Hood of Selby (buried Selby Abbey 1717) had married Elizabeth Byard].
22nd Nov. 1715. Samuel Henson of Wistow. " To my dear and loving wife all my land at Sikehouse, to her and her heirs, and all my personal estate, paying to my dear child, Mary Henson, 600 l. when 21. To my kinswoman, Mary Cousins, 20 l." And now comes an extraordinary bequest : "The rest of my real estate at Bonwith, Cotingworth, Storwood Park, and Darbyshire, to my wife for her life ; but if my dau. Mary happen to marry before she be 21, then I give her all my reall estate, and disposall, if fourteen yeares (of age), shall be good in law as though she was at full age; but if she dye before she marry, all my reall estate to Samuel Hood, Wm. Byard, and Byard Rawson. My wife ex."
... "26th August, 1742. Mary Henson, of the City of York, widow." ...
https://archive.org/stream/heminbrough00burt
Page 205
There are references to Bacon and Clark, p.205.
Regards Mark
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Something to research
Based on possible scenario of known linking surnames, dates of interest and a port of Hull
Gibson the Cooper Wren lane Selby
George son of Hannah Gibson of Cottingham (Hull area) (illegitimate) bapt 1786 father ? ( Hood ? )
Jno Hood father Robt — Hull, Holy Trinity bapt 1739 (possible John Hood mariner buried 1819 aged 82 (born 1737) Selby
Land tax - owner property Micklegate, J Spencer his son lived in Cottingham - occupier Mr J Hood
Micklegate crosses Wren Lane Selby
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Something to research
Based on possible scenario of known linking surnames, dates of interest and a port of Hull
Gibson the Cooper Wren lane Selby
George son of Hannah Gibson of Cottingham (Hull area) (illegitimate) bapt 1786 father ? ( Hood ? )
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Land tax - owner property Micklegate, J Spencer his son lived in Cottingham - occupier Mr J Hood
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Thank you, an interesting theory about Gibson.
When I got the 1802 / 1803 deed copy, the house John Hood was occupying was in Millgate, Selby. Certainly looks more like Millgate, Selby.
You have a son of J. Spencer living at Cottingham, but are you also saying a J. Hood, was also occupying at Cottingham?
If there is some connection with Hood to Gibson, Hull Packet 5 Feb 1828 ... On the 31st ult. Mr J. Gibson, of Selby, gent, aged 63.
I'll check if there is a Will. I've got a few surnames, including some more Hoods. My thoughts in the last week, are back to Wills again.
Thanks and kind regards, Mark
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I've rephrased the statement
from----- Land tax - owner property Micklegate, J Spencer his son lived in Cottingham - occupier Mr J Hood
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to ----- land tax Selby property owner J Spencer, occupier J Hood (or Mr Hood)- J Spencer's son lived in Cottingham
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Will have to check if any bastardry order bonds or QS orders in Beverley or Hull archives, seeing if any survived for Cottingham year 1786/1787 for an illegitimate fathers surname of George Gibson bapt 1786 Cottingham
It a very long shot but a lot good ingredients are there in the theory pie
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Gibson the Cooper Wren lane Selby
George son of Hannah Gibson of Cottingham (Hull area) (illegitimate) bapt 1786 father ? ( Hood ? )
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Thanks dobfarm, I thought that J. Hood occupying at Selby is what you probably meant, but needed to check he was not occupying a Spencer property at Cottingham.
Question: One thing that would really back this theory (in the quote), can anyone, please check the Burial images for a George Hood (death 18 Sept 1845) burial at Cottingham?
I see on Rootschat, that one family history site claims to have put all the East Yorks Registers on, but some events can only be found by place name, apparently? The vagaries of the computer?
When we were at the Borthwick looking at the Parish burials surrounding Selby, it was noticed that people from other Parishes, one with a Leeds Abode, etc., were buried elsewhere.
Thanks Mark
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Quote from Goughy Reply #174 of 08 November 2015
Hi Mark
I thought it would be useful to just put down James and Sarah's family for "tracking purposes"
Mary Ellen Hood b Selby 1853
Elizabeth Cook Hood b Selby 1854
Adeline Hood b Selby 1855
Sarah Hood b Selby 1856
John Wilkinson Hood b Selby 1858
William Russell Hood b Selby 1861
James Alfred Hood b Sunderland 1863
George Arundel Hood b 1866 Selby
Bernard Pearson Hood b 1870 Scarborough
In the 1871 Census, Mary Ellen Hood is staying with a Dobson family in Bowling, Bradford and is stated as "cousin". The head of household is Thomas Duckworth Dobson b 1829 Wakefield and his wife Mary Ann b 1833 London, Middlesex. Thomas Duckworth Dobson married Mary Ann Bateman in 1855 in Selby.
END of Quote
Hello All
No Lookup required. I am placing the information, as I see there are some Ullathorne photos online and I hope to get to the Library later. I have searched one name above and the search engine is defaulting to someone of the same name, in the U.S.
James Hood of Selby died Derby 17 December 1894 aged 66 and his Obituary appears in the Derby Newspapers and the Sheffield Independent newspaper. A report of his Inquest is in the Derby Mercury and Sarah Hood widow was a witness.
The Annual Monitor for 1912 says that Sarah A. Hood was aged 80, of Mansfield and Widow of James Hood.
The Derbyshire Courier 8 November 1902 mentions a William Russell Hood at Shirebrook.
In November 1932 a William Russell Hood, Villa Terrace, Hunslet Carr, is Foreman at Messrs Nicholson and Sons Ltd.
York Herald 29 July 1876 Elizabeth Cook Hood married Mr J. B. Sugars at Selby, all of Scarborough. [ John Blanchard Sugars ]
24 April 1945 "Golden Wedding"
Ullathorne - Hood.
24 April 1895 Thomas Simpson Ullathorne to Mary Beatrice Hood, both of Selby.
It would appear they had two sons (not one per internet source):-
Thomas Edwin Ullathorne who in March 1947 gave his address as 7 St James Terrace, Selby.
and
James Simpson Ullathorne who died 8 August 1918
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/185970/ULLATHORNE,%20JAMES%20SIMPSON
I am very pleased to discover this, as I can rule out the Simpson's bookcase mentioned in the Will (Proved 1895) of Jane C. Hood (widow of William Hood of Selby who died Selby in 1870, aged 54) and Simpson can be ruled out as a possible predecessor surname.
Mark
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William Russell Hood at Shirebrook.
Getting well into Robin Hood country now 8) -Shirebrook is only 6 miles from Edwinstowe.
The second mystery legend of the Hood dynasty ~ George Hood
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William Russell Hood at Shirebrook.
Getting well into Robin Hood country now 8) -Shirebrook is only 6 miles from Edwinstowe.
The second mystery legend of the Hood dynasty ~ George Hood
;D
Thanks, G.H. a 'legend' ;D ? More of a pain in the neck ???
A John Spencer, Mariner is mentioned in a Will, found at Blythburgh, near Southwold, Suffolk.
I've posted here ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.msg5965482#msg5965482
Kind regards Mark
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Well they've been trying centuries to find out who Robin Hood was ! now we have a mystery who George Hood was.
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Well they've been trying centuries to find out who Robin Hood was ! now we have a mystery who George Hood was.
Hello dobfarm, Goughy and All
No look-ups required, just a summary of thoughts.
No burial by Sheffield General Cemetery Company.
Written to Rotherham, for Cemetery Co Register look-up, but told it will be a while, or I can visit.
Looking at the Selby documents one could assume - John Hood and George Hood of Selby related.
But thinking further:-
a) John Hood a mariner, never left a Will, rented a Millgate property at Selby and believed to be the one buried Selby April 1819, aged 82.
b) George Hood takes over a bankrupt's business (of Cooper, Dealer and Chapman) about 1812, appears to be educated (certainly a nice writer), whilst paying Land Tax on the premises owned by Lord Petre, is fairly successful, buys property (some involving many parties) and then carted off elsewhere, to some unknown place for burial in 1845. Sarah his wife was a straw hat manufacturer and mother and she disappears at death in 1879, too.
Five sons all named after British Kings, William; John; George; Richard and James Hood. (William and James, are known to be Quakers. But John and George buried at Selby Cemetery)
Their three daughters, Mary, Ellen and Sarah and son Richard Hood disappear too.
Illegitimate children appeared in all classes.
George Hood could have been anybody, but his burial, widow and several offspring have been spirited away, almost, as if they had never been there:-
1. to hide a secret.
2. or perhaps George saw the overcrowded Selby Churchyard (a few years later a disgusting description appears in the newspaper) and has a family grave elsewhere.
3. or buried near his birthplace, but with him being called 'George Hood of Selby' it would be logical to say born at Selby, but no Selby Parish Baptism.
4. a Dissenter perhaps, but all his children were Parish baptised.
An expedition to Yorkshire is looming ...
King regards, Mark
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Hello All
There was a Unitarian Chapel in Selby, but apparently no adjoining burial ground at Selby.
Unitarian Chapels found so far, were at:-
Mill Hill Unitarian Chapel Leeds grave registers 1729 -1847 and 1889
Idle, Calverley (WYAS Bradford, 1853 to 1913) [EDIT: TNA info, begin 1853 to 1913]
Todmorden Unitarian
New Malden Unitarian burials 1778 - 1911 Ancestral Indexes [?] Vol. 5
Are the 1845 Burial Registers of the above online please? I can get to the Library, to look at them, if they are on FindMyPast or Ancestry.
Another burial ground is mentioned in Holmfirth, the Lydgate Unitarian Chapel, New Mill, Holmfirth. The Unitarians there, have an old Burial Ground there and say this (below), so I have made enquiries about my George Hood, who died 18 September 1845:-
"We have a grave plan and some marriage, naming and burial records. Please consult our Secretary for details."
Kind regards, Mark
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The Idle records here: http://www.calverley.info/iuc.htm
Brian
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The Idle records here: http://www.calverley.info/iuc.htm
Brian
Thanks Brian, for that link.
At least I can rule out the Idle Unitarian Chapel (Idle Highfield Unitarian Chapel) Register at WYAS Bradford, as it starts 1853 to 1913.
Since your post, I have edited my request, to clarify for future researchers, who may find the page.
Idle Unitarian Chapel
1853 to 1913: Register of baptisms, marriages and deaths with a list of church members, WYAS Bradford 14D78.
National Register of Archives 28348 Bradford Archives.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F98789
Kind regards, Mark
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Its sad ! but true !! that family couples had many children with some of them being early life infant deaths/burials, its fair to say George and Sarah Hood, who married 1815 in Selby would have had some of there children who would have died as infants between 1815 and July 1837 the start of GRO certificates of death. Therefore there could be a parish burials book (Not Selby) of these children burials somewhere with some infant sons/daughters of George and Sarah recorded in the parish register or nonconformist register before 1837.
What we do know about George Hood who died 1845 was he had -had an education, yet a working class trade and yet seems to have a fair wealth and some basic business knowledge aged 26 in 1812.-This is baffling puzzle point.
Just a thought
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Thanks dobfarm
Susan from the Howdenshire website has been in touch by email, I have missed Carlton juxta Snaith Burials.
The map at the Borthwick of the names (which I thought were Parishes) which I used, does not seem to include all the places within the two Selby and Snaith Jurisdictions. Not being local, having a health condition and concentrating so much on checking the map names, must have taken my mind off the names, under the Selby and Snaith Jurisdictions.
Kind regards, Mark
EDIT: Seems the places listed under the Selby Jurisdiction were places and not all were Parishes.
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Susan from the Howdenshire website has been in touch by email, I have missed Carlton juxta Snaith Burials..............................................................................
I have been following this thread for ages now, just to say if you get an inkling that George (AKA Robin ;) ) is indeed buried in Carlton let me know, I am only 15 minutes away and will gladly go and have a trawl through the churchyard for you.
To be honest I didn't know you had missed Carlton or I would have thrown it into the mix,
Frank.
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I have been following this thread for ages now, just to say if you get an inkling that George (AKA Robin ;) ) is indeed buried in Carlton let me know, I am only 15 minutes away and will gladly go and have a trawl through the churchyard for you.
To be honest I didn't know you had missed Carlton or I would have thrown it into the mix,
Frank.
Hello Frank
Thank you, that is most kind, but please bear in mind, although the Carlton juxta Snaith Burial Register is supposed to be at the Borthwick, I have not yet been to the Beverley Record Office to look at the remaining Parishes under the Jurisdiction of Snaith (which historically came under the Selby Jurisdiction), so it could be a disappointing journey. Whatever, you decide, please take care.
Regarding my last post about Selby (just edited), I vaguely seem to recall that the names under the Selby Abbey Jurisdiction list were places and not all Parishes.
Kind regards, Mark
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Just a recap
There are no September 1845 George Hood, (Tanner & Brewer, dying 18th Sept), burials in the following microfilmed Parish Burial Registers:-
Stillingfleet
Riccall
Skipwith
Wistow
Cawood
Esrick
Hemingbro'
Barlby
Bubwith
Coxwold
Drax
Elvington
Thorganby
Sherburn in Elmet
Brayton
Wheldrake
Birkin
Kirkby Wharfe
Ryther
Rufforth
Dunnington
Monk Fryston
Saxton
Appleton le Street
YORK - Only checked St Edward the Confessor, Dringhouses at York.
Goughy has checked the following:-
he's not in Howden or Snaith
nor is he in Brotherton
Not in Church Fenton
They used to say a lot of business was conducted with fellow church members, or more recently at the Golf Club.
When in Yorkshire again ;D :- I shall look at:- Scarborough; Airmyn; Carlton juxta Snaith; Hook; Rawcliffe; Swinefleet; Whitgift and a few others
By the way, about 1907 my Grandfather's brother had a forename, which according to the internet, meant 'of the forest' whether that came from the Hood side, or his mother, I don't know. Although, this name is not found in my Oxford Names book.
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Hi, just to say, there are no Hood burials in my burial index booklet for AIRMYN, 1726 - 1920.
Frank.
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In them days 1845 to 1879 was a time when these small chapelry church's started becoming their own smaller independent parish breaking up the older big mother parish. For example:- Holmfirth became its own parish, before Holmfirth town was divided in the centre by 2 major big mother parishes Kirkburton parish & Almondbury Parish and to make matters worse there was not a distinctive boundary line but more patches- Upperthong had 2 unlinked patched area with patches of areas of Wooldale in-between both in different parishes. East Rochdale, Saddleworth and shirting right up to Lees in Oldham were in these two mother parishes.
Abodes of people could be living in one parish and the nearest easy route by road to a church/chapelry could be in another parish and not uncommon for that parish to (ie:- Rochdale/Oldham/Lees if they lived in Saddleworth/Mossley/Lees) be in another county-Mother church's Kirkburton and Almondbury a couple of mile apart of each other in a triangle with Kirkheaton mother parish church.in Huddersfield town outer boundary.
A chap on the 1841c living in Lees hamlet of Oldham says he was physically born in Lees 1/2 mile from Oldham in Lancashire _ Wrong: he was born in Yorkshire
It still is complicated over Oldham ? in Lancashire and Yorkshire as some East Oldham boundary sign posts carry the White rose of Yorkshire
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Hello All
I've tried two Yorkshire Unitarian Chapels where burials were conducted in 1845. Seems neither have any Hood burials.
However, one reply:-
... could not find any burials registered to a Hood, of any forename. You will know about the Mormons family history site- they give his birthdate as 1787, and state that some information about him comes from the list of Chelsea Pensioners. In those days, a Chelsea Pensioner was not necessarily an inmate of the Chelsea Hospital, but any ex soldier in receipt of a certain pension.
Seems there are several WO Series, depending on status, type of Soldier or Army Unit.
So I have emailed him back, as I can't find this on 'Family Search', but if anyone can provide the FS link / details, or WO Catalogue Series / record type or record name mentioned on Family Search, please, I can take it from there?
The TNA website says regarding the Pension records that the 'Friends of The National Archives' have been preparing Data Sheets in respect of these records. I have heard about the Friends work before, cataloguing other types of records.
Thank you, kind regards, Mark
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The Leeds death GRO George Hood Sept 1845 ex soldier seems a likely candidate for that Chelsea pension. Worth putting on a low back burner shot - but not worth digging holes the garden with pain of excitement over said info.
Where is his wife Sarah Russel is buried 1879 is the key - died 34 after her husband George and most likely buried with him also 3 sibling burials of said couple -WHY !!. This burial ground must have a great importance over the spread of foresaid years to this Hood family and put front burner on high heat is needed.
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Well here is the info on George Hood burial 1845.
Cemetery Leeds General Cemetery (Woodhouse)
Burial Entry 4068
Grave Number 6503
GraveNote
Died (Month) September
Died (Day) 5
Died (Year) 1845
Burial (Month) September
Burial (Day) 7
Burial (Year) 1845
Forename(s) George
Surname HOOD
Age (Years) 63
Age (Months)
Age (Other)
Year of Birth 1782
Sex Male
Disease Cholera
Trade Sergeant
Residence St James Street
Birth Place Burniston
Fathers Forename Thomas
Fathers Surname HOOD
Mothers Forename
Mothers Surname
Fathers Trade Tailor
Informants Signature
Officiating Minister J Rawson
Brian
Above grave contained others:
HOOD, Eleanor 13 years 1835
HOOD, Thomas Banks 22 years 1842
HOOD, Geo Spence 10 months 1842
HOOD, Isabel 63 years 1845
HOOD, George 63 years 1845
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Well here is the info on George Hood burial 1845.
Cemetery Leeds General Cemetery (Woodhouse)
Burial Entry 4068
Grave Number 6503
GraveNote
Died (Month) September
Died (Day) 5
Died (Year) 1845
Burial (Month) September
Burial (Day) 7
Burial (Year) 1845
Forename(s) George
Surname HOOD
Age (Years) 63
Age (Months)
Age (Other)
Year of Birth 1782
Sex Male
Disease Cholera
Trade Sergeant
Residence St James Street
Birth Place Burniston
Fathers Forename Thomas
Fathers Surname HOOD
Mothers Forename
Mothers Surname
Fathers Trade Tailor
Informants Signature
Officiating Minister J Rawson
Brian
Above grave contained others:
HOOD, Eleanor 13 years 1835
HOOD, Thomas Banks 22 years 1842
HOOD, Geo Spence 10 months 1842
HOOD, Isabel 63 years 1845
HOOD, George 63 years 1845
Hello Brian, Dave and All
I am sorry to say, but the above Sgt George Hood who finished up at the Leeds Army Office and married to Isabel Hood, alias Isabella Hood of Leeds, is another George Hood and not mine of Selby.
My George Hood of Selby was still alive (until 18th September 1845), when the above Army George Hood of Leeds was being buried.
I did see the Army George Hood of Leeds, burial at Leeds, in that very detailed list you sent Thank you.
Thank you for keeping me in mind.
See link ..
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728347.0
I have got real trouble, as there is no George Hood who died Selby 18th September 1845, buried at Selby, or buried in Parishes surrounding Selby and absolutely no Selby Birth / Baptism either.
There is some recent suggestion that my George Hood appears in a list of Soldiers discharged on disability grounds with a pension, but am waiting for any further info, before I start downloading a number of TNA catalogue references to Pension Lists, covering c.1802 to 1812.
I've wondered about an Army / Navy disability pension because George Hood of Selby:-
i) suddenly appears Selby in 1812
ii) does not marry until 28 yrs of age, yet his wife was a local girl born Selby, who also worked
iii) would get a bit of start, if being in receipt of a pension
iv) was a Cooper and the Navy and I expect the Army would also have had Coopers, for sealing barrels to store their beer and fresh water.
Regards Mark
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Hi Mark,
I have a similar ancestor being direct line, a Gt Granddad times X married 1803 died 1851 aged 86 in Warwickshire, I used to spend a fortune in fuel and accommodation visiting archives traveling from Yorkshire, and was totally obsessed but finding nothing. In the end I called a day, moved on to helping other members on here, since then, I keep picking up bits of info on my ancestry mostly online, much more than the days when I was trying too hard !! but now a days seems less important in interest and found more feeling of self accomplishment/excitement (Kicks) in assisting members on here. I still do occasionally do my own ancestry to update but with less addiction of importance as I use too have with tunnel vision.
Suggest you have a bit of time out or gap time - then come back to George and your luck my just change.
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Hello Dave and All
Thanks for the advice, I have had to ease off for a breather.
This Nicholson v. Nicholson 1830 -1837 Chancery Case (with the Bill pleadings and three answers), TNA, Kew, scanned and sent me, eventually turned up and it was triggered by the death of Samuel Nicholson of Snaith, who had various property, including numerous properties in Ousegate Selby [acquired by one Mr George Hood in 1838 to James Collinson of Selby].
The case does not seem to mention Hood, but William Bowland and Abraham Hodgson allege that they cannot carry out the trusts of the said Will [of Samuel Nicholson of Snaith] into execution without the aid and indemnity of a Court of Equity and the said Samuel Nicholson claims to be entitled to the real Estates of the said Testator by descent as his heir at Law.
[Samuel Nicholson being Heir at Law and mentioned in the 1838 Nicholson and Others (incl Hood) to James Collinson 1838 property Deed Registration].
However, the 1835 Petitition/Complaint (part) of the case ... Humbly Complaining shews unto your Lordship your Gratrix Charlotte Nicholson an infant under 21 years by George Smith of Armine Pastures in the County of York.
I had already discovered and mentioned on here how George Smith was also known as George Nicholson Smith of Armin when he gained his Apothecary Certificate. George Smith had married Nicholson's daughter.
Representatives of Charlotte daughter of George Smith and called in the case Charlotte Nicholson were also claiming a right to inherit, because her mother was a Nicholson.
I have the very same going on with two Hood families (not yet known if related to my George Hood of Selby), but another John Hood (not the one buried Selby 1819) was actually John Leadley, but is calling himself John Hood after his Grandfather John Hood of Nettleham (A Mr Leadley must have married or had a child by Miss Hood who was daughter of John Hood of Nettleham). In fact there are at least two children in this Hood family who are carrying the Hood name forward and taking their Grandfather Hood's surname, rather than their father's surname.
Male Hoods of Selby - Early to mid 18th Century
It seems the early male Hoods (alias Hudd and Hodd) of Selby have died off (buried Selby) without a surviving male Hood heir. For example Roger Hood of Selby, Samuel Hood of Selby (buried Thorganby) and looking at other examples (above), it seems children could have taken their Grandfather Hood surname (i.e. their mother's maiden name of Hood / nee Hood).
My Grandmother Hood side of my parents (died 1988) referring to the Hood side (when I was a small boy) said something about, names being carried forward from the previous generation, I thought later she meant forenames, but now I have found other examples of children taking their Grandfather's surname, I am begining to wonder if she meant carrying the surname Hood forward.
I am looking at the possibility that the Grandfather of George Hood of Selby was a Hood and his mother was a nee Hood.
Some Hoods were dissenters, so some records don't survive.
How and whether John Hood (aged 82, abode and buried Selby 1819) fit in, is still unclear. FindMyPast are claiming to have the Registers online, but I can't even find Maudland Hood's baptism image online, yet.
Planning to get up to Yorkshire and have a look.
Kind regards Mark
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So your looking at possible first names of George's in deeds/law doc's with a different surname to George Hood in properties that may link to properties owned or associated to Hood's or doc's George Hood owned. (Mind boggles ??? ::))
I seem to remember the late 1700's land tax records of Selby Hood's rented property off Lord thingybob and a Mr Spencer. ----Maybe George was a Spence but more likely George Gibson born illegitimate with a father Hood and maternal side granddad Spencer
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Carrying a Grandfather's or mother's surname in my lineage, is only a theory, not proven.
Firstly, I am going to check out Stephen Hood of Edston, alias Edstone. The Edston farm belonging to the late Stephen Hood was first advertised in December 1827, with Michael Fisher as Tenant.
Stephen Hood also appears as a Freeholder in the 1807 Poll Book.
The IGI fiche gives a baptism for Stephen Hood at Settrington 28 Dec 1745, father Thomas Hood.
The John Hood buried Selby 4th April 1819 aged 82 (if born Yorkshire), could or might be the John Hood baptised 6 April 1736, father Thomas Hood (unless you have, or can find a burial for this John Hood, as there was another John Hood baptism Feb 1751 at Settrington?).
A Hannah Hood married Michael Fisher 2 April 1749 at Holy Trinity Hull, becoming Hannah Fisher. [According to the Selby Parish Transcriptions a Hannah Hood is mentioned as marrying a Michael Fisher].
Unless the John Hood baptised at Settrington 6 April 1736 has died before 1819, I feel, me checking this, the Selby Manor records (Rentals and any Leases) and the Scarborough Registers in person, are worth me checking, before taking a break.
Kind regards, Mark
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Hi Mark,
I have a similar ancestor being direct line, a Gt Granddad times X married 1803 died 1851 aged 86 in Warwickshire, ...
Hello Dave
What was your Warwickshire Gt. Grandfather's name and place?
Kind regards, Mark
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Hi Mark,
I have a similar ancestor being direct line, a Gt Granddad times X married 1803 died 1851 aged 86 in Warwickshire, ...
Hello Dave
What was your Warwickshire Gt. Grandfather's name and place?
Kind regards, Mark
Hi Mark
I have sent you a PM on my ancestry difficult ancestor as not to confuse this George Hood thread
Dave
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Hello All
Found this in:-
The Poll for the City of York, 1741 page 33 ...
John Hood, Barber. Place of Abode Rawcliffe.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=750788.msg5989697#msg5989697
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I've responded on the post
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Thank you Everyone who Assisted and/or looked up information so far.
I feel that we might be a little further forward in cracking this.
See
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=750788.0
Originally, it seemed that there was no early 18th Century forward HOOD, surviving male line, to link up from the early 18th Century Hood Surgeons at Selby, to either John Hood (buried Selby 4 April 1819, aged 82) of Selby and George Hood of Selby.
In The POLL For The City of York, 1741. is a John Hood, Barber, Place of Abode Rawcliffe.
My father told me that historically, a Barber was a Surgeon and that was why old Hairdressers (Barbers) used to display the Red and White (usually in a spiral) cylinder sign, outside and it denoted 'Blood and Bandages'.
The early half of the 18th Century Selby Parish transcriptions, seemed to have no Hood male line, to go forward, Matthew Hood, Chirurgus of Selby dying 1717, Roger Hood of Selby dying and Samuel Hood, Barber and Surgeon of Selby buried Thorganby in 1737.
However, the 1741 Poll book indicates there was a John Hood, Barber, still alive in 1741 at Rawcliffe and John Hood, buried Selby April 1819 at 82 years of age is old enough, to be the son of the Rawcliffe Barber of 1741.
Goughy has found the following Apprenticeship for John Hood son of Elizabeth Hood of Selby, in 1718:-
October 1718 29. 2. John Herbert of Wensley, Yorke, Barber, Chirurgeon, John son of Eliz: Hood of Selby, York, 16 Sept 1718
Got some more research to do in Yorkshire, but John Hood, Barber of Rawcliffe in the 1741 Poll book (eligible to vote), read with Goughy's Apprentice find, is looking promising, as the possible missing link, from the early 18th Century Selby Hoods, in the Selby Parish Register?
Thank you all and kind regards, Mark
EDIT: Found a 1745 Apprenticeship, with John Hood of Rocliffe, Do. [Do. = City of York] Barber, as the Master, posted on the link (above).
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Hello dobfarm
For information, it seems you were onto some with:-
"John Hood aged 25 married Elizabeth Leppington aged 26 on the 8th Dec 1763 Scarborough aged 25" in relation to Maudland Hood, at least.
I have seen both the Marriage Allegation/Intention and Bond dated :-
Marriage Intention dated 6th day of December 1763
John Hood of the Parish of Scarborough in the County of York ... That he is of the Age of twenty five Years ... and a Batchelor and intends to marry Elizabeth Leppington of Scarborough aforesaid aged 26 Years ... and a Widow
Bond
Know all Men by these Presents, That we John Hood of Scarborough in the County of York Mariner ...
So Elizabeth Leppington was a Widow and very likely the same, Elizabeth Spencer when she married Leppington
Looks like you got the lineage for Elizabeth dau of John Spencer married to John Hood of Selby, Mariner (parents to Maudland Hood).
Thanks and kind regards Mark
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Did the Bond allegation in 1763 to Elizabeth Leppington give John Hood's occupation -usually given on the top of same page with the Bondsmans name and Bondsmans occupation.
I still think John Hood (burial 1819 Selby aged 82 = b 1737) that George Hood (death 1845) Selby was a grandson of John Hood with a generation father of George Hood missing. That son would have had to have been born 1763 to 1766- ish to marry and have son George Hood born circa 1786
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Hood's other side of the river Ouse 18th Century near Selby
I found this link in the National archives 'discovery' section
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/523bae27-70a6-42bd-aad5-74cfa35cede8
Snippet _ Tristram Hood Witnesses: William Thompson, George Young and William Gibson
Known early George Hood info in Selby
Though John Hood buried 1819 aged 82 est born 1737 Selby lived where George Hood died 1845 Selby trade cooper at marriage 1815 Selby- there has been nothing evidence wise found so far to connect them plus John Hood's age at death suggests John Hood b1737 little old to be George's father.
pre 1812 George Hood - 1807 info has Richard Gibson the Cooper Wren lane
George Hood Cooper Wren lane 1818 trade directory with wife Sarah (Russel) a straw hat maker.
Documents of R Gibson Bankruptcy, sale/transfer or death of R Gibson of the Cooper business to George Hood or property rental records of the business in solicitors records - London or York ('s)
George Hood a Copper (With Business knowledge and with a small wealth in his own right ??)
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Hello dobfarm
Thanks, William Gibson was a Witness, but witnesses are sometimes good friends, or related.
Last day, I was exhausted due to mental concentration (punch drunk) and was not very well the following day.
John Hood of the Parish of Scarborough Mariner to Elizabeth Leppington, Widow, Dec 1763
In answer to your last but one post, I did state the Alleg/Bond for John Hood aged 25, Batchelor, was a Mariner and Elizabeth Leppington, of Scarborough aforesaid, aged 26 and a Widow.
Earlier John Hood of Scarborough Mariner - Marriage Alleg/Bond 1759
There was a second John Hood Mariner of Scarborough Alleg/Bond (earlier), 8th September 1759, for a John Hood aged 37 Batchelor to marry Elizabeth Hood of the same place aged 21 and a Spinster, his Bondsman was John Cornforth of Scarborough, Parish Clerk. I had already found the Marriage Register entry, so interesting to get more detail.
Signatures
Although the 1759 John Hood signature is more fancy than the 1763 signature, neither seem to match each other, or the Jon. Hood signature, a Widower of Scarborough, Mariner, 17 August 1778 to Sarah Hammond Widow, London Marriage Bond.
Tristram Hood
I wanted to see, including Tristram Hood's 1735 Will and 1741 Admin 2 ...
Tristram Hood July 1735, York, Vol.84, fol.96 and
Tristram Hood Nov 1741, York, Admin 2, (MF1209 noted for Admin 2)
as I knew he was linked to York and Hemingbrough, close to Selby.
But, I was not thinking straight and perhaps missed vital info re Tristram Hood?
Regards Mark
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Tristram Hood July 1735, York, Vol.84, fol.96 and
Tristram Hood Nov 1741, York, Admin 2, (MF1209 noted for Admin 2)
From Parish Records
Tristrum Hood buried 3 July 1735 York, St Sampson Occupation blacksmith
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Your health is what matters in order of importance more than a passion for knowing about George's history at the moment. :)
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Hood's other side of the river Ouse 18th Century near Selby
I found this link in the National archives 'discovery' section
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/523bae27-70a6-42bd-aad5-74cfa35cede8
Snippet _ Tristram Hood Witnesses: William Thompson, George Young and William Gibson
Known early George Hood info in Selby
Though John Hood buried 1819 aged 82 est born 1737 Selby lived where George Hood died 1845 Selby trade cooper at marriage 1815 Selby- there has been nothing evidence wise found so far to connect them plus John Hood's age at death suggests John Hood b1737 little old to be George's father.
pre 1812 George Hood - 1807 info has Richard Gibson the Cooper Wren lane
George Hood Cooper Wren lane 1818 trade directory with wife Sarah (Russel) a straw hat maker.
Documents of R Gibson Bankruptcy, sale/transfer or death of R Gibson of the Cooper business to George Hood or property rental records of the business in solicitors records - London or York ('s)
George Hood a Copper (With Business knowledge and with a small wealth in his own right ??)
Hello All
Already searched newspapers (although some OCR scanning is not good) for Gibson; Cooper and Selby, but no advert for the Cooper business, circa 1807 to 1812, only Gibsons Bankruptcy L.G. entries as previously discussed.
The Wren Lane premises were rented by George Hood to begin (1812 per Land Tax) and one of George Hood's later aquisitions at Auction in 1835.
Reg'd in 1836, those involved in the Sale of the Wren Lane premises were:-
the Lease made or expressed to be made Between the
Right Honourable William Henry Francis Lord Petre and the Honourable Henry Charles Howard commonly called the Earl of Surrey and the Honourable Edward Robert Petre late of Stapleton Park in the County of York but now residing at Brussels of the one part and George Hood of Selby in the County of York Brewer of the other part
and the Release made or expressed to be made Between the said
William Henry Francis Lord Petre and Henry Charles Earl of Surrey of the first part
the said Edward Robert Petre of the second part and
Charles Henry Pigot of Great Marlborough Street in the County of Middlesex Gentleman of the third part
the said George Hood of the fourth part
William Mafrey of Selby aforesaid Merchant of the fifth part
Edward White of Great Marlborough Street aforesaid Gentleman of the sixth part and
Jonathan Hutchinson of Selby aforesaid Merchant of the seventh part
of and concerning all those two Dwellinghouses or tenements situate in Selby aforesaid in certain streets called Wren Lane and Micklegate ... .
[Property then described] ... adjoining thereto containing by recent survey ... heretofore in the occupation of Richard Gibson and Thomas Holliday but now of George Hood and his Undertenants and of John Green having premises of William Hood on or towards the southeast the said street called Micklegate ... [adjacent premises and people named]
It seems, that when purchasing a property back then, by a 'Lease and Release' type of property transfer (rather than a Sale by 'Conveyance'), the purchaser (in this case George Hood) appears in both the Release and the Lease documents? The margin description is Petre and Others to Hood
I would much prefer to be reading a Sale by Conveyance, than a Lease and Release sale document, but George Hood of Selby Brewer was the purchaser.
I am aware there are some Lord Petre Manor of Selby records at Hull and Essex. Someone has mentioned, one Petre was from Bradford.
Regards Mark
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Regarding the last post, it is my feeling (not fully understood though), that some of those signing the Release during a sale were Owners and interested parties, such as Solicitors, Occupiers, Tenants, Leasees etc, because they have to give up any right, to enable the sale of the property, to take place.
The Lease part is therefore possibly the transfer of ownership part.
Edward White of Great Marlborough Street was a Solicitor.
White and Pigot of Great Marlborough Street were Solicitors.
Regards Mark
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Good morning Mark
I would think the legal London names are involved mostly being that the big Petre family estate is more national family affair in legal issues, than if the property owners had been a local more lower class local person.
Rents, tenant lease doc's of the Petre property in Selby when R Gibson rented and change of tenancy to George Hood. The fact we know R Gibson was a tradesman self employed cooper or barrel maker business owner as a mechant in business with a cooper tradesman(s) working for him. I can't remember off hand if R Gibson advertised for a worker tradesman cooper as assistant or skilled cooper to run the business as a barrel maker. circa 1800
Scenarios
George Hood a cooper skilled or semi skilled craftsman with business skills- could have been taught by R Gibson - George would have been about aged 13 or 14 in 1800 and if Gibson did not find a cooper to work for him 1800 advert - he could have taken George on to train him skills of being ta businessman in business of /cooper/tanner/brewer businesses- These are businesses that need a certain high knowledge of education and skill >>> from R Gibson
or
George Hood bringing skills with him ??? was much older aged about 21 between years 1800 to 1807 and he answered one of R Gibson's advert for a skilled cooper in post years circa years 1800/7.
or
George bought the bankrupt business as a business liquidator to turn it around- bought from afar - maybe a newspaper advert 1810/12
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Tristram Hood July 1735, York, Vol.84, fol.96 and
Tristram Hood Nov 1741, York, Admin 2, (MF1209 noted for Admin 2)
From Parish Records
Tristrum Hood buried 3 July 1735 York, St Sampson Occupation blacksmith
Thanks Goughy
Whilst looking for my 'Spencer' notes, I came across Hood / Clark notes ...
Trustrum Hood married Mary Clark Hemingbrough, Yorks, 31 July 1722.
Printed Book - The Register of Marriages in York Minster
(113). 16 December 1686, Tristrum Hood & Ellen Briggs, both of Yorke.
Freemen of the City of York
p.161 Trustram Hood, blacksmith 1684-5
p.215 Per Patres
Johannes Hood, fil. Tristram Hood, blacksmith 1718-9
p.262 By Patrimony
Robert Hood, blacksmith, son of John Hood, blacksmith 1741-3
Regards Mark
https://archive.org/stream/registeroffreem02surtuoft
Index - Hood, Hodd & Hudd ...
Jac. p.125;
Joh. p.153, p.163, p.192, p.202, p.215, p.262;
Pet.161;
Rob. p.141, p.262;
Tho. p.192;
Trist. p.161, p.215;
Will. p.161.
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Hello All
Thank you for recent replies.
The advert by R. Gibson of Selby was in 1800 ...
To COOPERS.
WANTED Immediately, A JOURNEY-
MAN COOPER, who is perfect Master of his
Business, and has been accustomed to make Kitls and
Buckets.- He must be well recommended for Honesty
and Sobriety.
Apply (if by Letter Post-paid,) to Mr. Richard
Gibson, Cooper, Selby.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=728231.msg5787897#msg5787897
According to the Wren Lane & Micklegate Deed, Thomas Holliday had previously been in the same premises as Richard Gibson. Also George Hood would only be 13 to 15 in 1800, I feel we can rule George out as an experienced Cooper answering the 1800 advert.
LMA looked up the only surviving related Gibson bankruptcy document, which was a list of names entered by the Guildhall Hallkeeper, but despite requesting a copying cost, suggested the names may not be relevant.
Disappointed, someone at LMA went to the trouble of looking, but never emailed the names in their reply.
John Spencer, Mariner of Scarborough, Father to Elizabeth Spencer
There were so many John Spencer, Yorkshire Wills, but are there any possible burial dates, please at Scarborough?
Elizabeth Spencer (aka Leppington and then Hood) would have born circa 1737 (26 yrs old in Dec 1763) and any John Spencer Will might be too early, to be referring to my George Hood, but someone later in the Spencer tree, might mention George Hood if they left a Will.
"Elizabeth Wife of John Hood" was buried Scarborough 24 Dec 1775 (image PE 165/43), coincidentally the same day Maudland Hood is claimed to be baptised on IGI. But two John Hood of Scarborough Mariners, both married an Elizabeth (1759 & 1763).
Although, John Hood of Selby Mariner was Maudland Hood's father, any link to George is unconfirmed.
Until something appears online, or a chance Archive find I think we are at a dead-end.
John Hood and Maudland Hood (who married a Charles Turner at Selby, aka Morland Turner and Mordland Turner) were buried Selby.
George Hood died Selby 18 Sept 1845, but birthplace, his father/mother and his burial place, all a mystery.
Kind regards Mark
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Lets change tac a little.
George Hood would have be a fully skilled cooper age 21 in 1800 he would have to be aged 66 at death 1845 born 1779 (Working on the marriage of intent 1778 of John Hood widower a mariner of Scarborough to Sarah Hammond at Middlesex 1778)
One newspaper had George Hood death age 63 in 1845
Who was the person being informant of the death or present at death of George Hood 1845 Selby ? Death certificate
Comparison of 1763 John Hood signature a mariner of Scarborough marriage to Elizabeth Leppington (Spencer) (Died 1775) to the 1778 John Hood signature mariner of Scarborough to Sarah Hammond.
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Hello dobfarm and All.
Can't add attachments here. Regarding your questions, 1763 & 1759 Signatures are here (Occupation Interests). Captain John Hood, ... :-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.msg6002369#msg6002369
to compare with your 1778 signature (which I also have).
Registration District Selby
1845. Death in the Sub -district of Selby in the County of York
Eighteenth of September 1845 at Selby
George HOOD
Male
60 years
Tanner
Disease of the Heart 18 months certified
William Hood present at death Gowthorpe Selby
Nineteenth of September 1845 [When registered]
John Fothergill Junior Registrar
"George Hood of Selby" said he was 28 yrs of age on his 16th May 1815 Selby Marriage Intent/Bond and also 28 yrs recorded at Marriage in July 1815. At death George would have been 58 yrs, or just turned 59 yrs of age (59 would be in his 60th year).
Regards Mark
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No similarities in signatures then - now 3 John Hood mariners of Scarborough.
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What have you on Richard Gibson on Tax polls - his last year at Wren Lane and where he is in Selby after 1810
If Richard Gibson brought George Hood up as a scholar in the cooper business from say 1800 to 1806 to 1808 George being 21 if R Gibson did not get an assistant that he advertised for 1800. George Hood should have been on the Tax poll from 1809
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Look for George Hood's anywhere/country wide place including Scotland who suddenly appears on Tax polls from say post 1806 - at when he would be earliest age 21 or taxable full age
Scotland and Ireland newspapers 1806 - 1812 outside chance reports on Gibson or George business activity -coopers/barrel makers
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Hello dobfarm and All
Thank you for your reply, I have put another post here regarding Roman Catholicism at Selby in the 1780s, as my brief note might be helpful generally and might lead to baptism records at Stourton?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=751862.new#new
As, I had been struggling to understand how the Roman Catholics were controlled at Selby in the 1780s.
Kind regards Mark
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Hello dobfarm and All
Thank you for your reply, I have put another post here regarding Roman Catholicism at Selby in the 1780s, as my brief note might be helpful generally and might lead to baptism records at Stourton?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=751862.new#new
As, I had been struggling to understand how the Roman Catholics were controlled at Selby in the 1780s.
Kind regards Mark
BumbleB earlier post RC theory and your theory !!, RC -Places/date years in Selby of RC activity and John & George Hood activity places.date years has close parallels in time also Petre family------------ Theory has substance.
St Mary’s Catholic Church, Carlton (Maybe George died 1845 and Sarah Hood buried there)
http://stmarysselby.org.uk/
http://stmarysselby.org.uk/history.htm
The church, presbytery and a school opened on the 31st August 1842 (Google maps show a graveyard at the church in Carlton)
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Hi, let me know if you require a look around the church yard at Carlton, it's 15 minutes down the road from me ;)
Frank.
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Hi, let me know if you require a look around the church yard at Carlton, it's 15 minutes down the road from me ;)
Frank.
Hi Frank,
BushInn1746 - Mark - I think will contact you about your kind offer.
George Hood died 1845 Selby, he left quite a sum of money, so would I imagine he would have a Headstone on his grave or a plaque inside the church if (?) he was deeply involved in the RC movement religion of early church/chapels RC building of the Chapels in Selby and Carlton.
:)
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Hi, let me know if you require a look around the church yard at Carlton, it's 15 minutes down the road from me ;)
Frank.
Hi Frank,
BushInn1746 - Mark - I think will contact you about your kind offer.
George Hood died 1845 Selby, he left quite a sum of money, so would I imagine he would have a Headstone on his grave or a plaque inside the church if (?) he was deeply involved in the RC movement religion of early church/chapels RC building of the Chapels in Selby and Carlton.
:)
Hello Frank, dobfarm and All
Thank you, but Carlton does not seem promising ...
Just seen my fiche of the transcribed Carlton juxta Snaith (up to 1812) Index of the Registers and Registers, as I knew Robert Hood of Carlton [spelt Carleton) was paying Hearth Tax in the 17th Century.
It seems the last Hood entries in the Carlton juxta Snaith Register up to 1812, were 17th century for Robart Hood and Robart Hud of Carlton and his children.
George Hood's name was not indexed and I think Goughy checked the 1845 Snaith burials.
As children we used to see a lot of our Grandmother Hood despite her moving to Scotland (remarriage due to my Grandfather Hood's RAF death).
In the deepest depths of my memory I very vaguely recall and she could of mentioned these places for any reason whatsover ...
Snaith, because as a very young boy I though it was something you should say when you sneezed. Of course there was an RAF Airfield near Snaith, so that could be the reason.
Beverley, because I used to think as a very young boy, that is a girl's name.
As to why I recall these names, is an absolute mystery!
Re Beverley, I see Bainbridge Hood and a link to Pearson, but no link to Selby.
I see Bainbridge Hood was an Innkeeper [of the Pack Horse Inn, Market Place], Beverley and he had to make, Hood's Assignment dated February, 11, 1834, for the benefit of his Creditors. Also other earlier Bainbridge Hood's on IGI.
Also Hull Advertiser 23 January 1829 a William Hood or Thomas Hodgson of Walkington, will shew the Property. Lot 1 Being a farmhouse at Littlewood in the township of Walkington and Lot 2 a Farmstead and 350 acres, adjoining three roads and a common pasture called Westwood which separates Lot 2 from the town of Beverley. Solicitors were Messrs Shepherd & Myers, Beverley.
But these two Yorkshire places may be dead-ends!
Regards Mark
EDIT: although mentioning this before, there was a Samuel & Bainbridge Hood, twin sons of Samuel Hood, occupation Chirgr, in the Selby Register transcripts 10 September 1724, both apparently died and Bainbridge may be buried as Bambridge Hood at Selby (but not seen images)?
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Working on the RC religion, Carlton St Mary chapel could or would come under RC records not Snaith C of E Parish. George 1845 & Sarah 1879 burials could be in Carlton graveyard RC burial (Did not need to be related to Hood's living in Carlton or if none lived there-George just buried there full stop) ground if George Hood took up R C religion in his later life through his association with the Petre family. Anyway checking Carlton RC St Mary graveyard or cemetery for a headstone of George & Sarah Hood is a good idea if only for elimination.
George Hood origins could be C of E or any religion before coming to Selby. IE - Glasgow Hood coopers which I'm working on at the moment - George son of Robert Hood & Margaret Porter bapt 19 February 1788 Scotland.
I'm looking to see if R Gibson put an advert for a skilled Cooper from 1804 to 1812 for his wanted cooper in Scottish newspapers or Irish newspapers as the high immigration of Irish workers around early 1800's to Glasgow and Selby
That word Cooper is of high meaning of George's early Selby origins on all his early documents/trade directories, than random Hood names in Yorkshire also the 1841c is renowned for being wrong on birth county. R Gibson did advertise once for a cooper and could have again in later years 1800 to 1812
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Thank you dobfarm
One Bankruptcy advert said Richard Gibson was a Cooper Dealer and Chapman.
Seems in 1838, that George Hood was apparently loaning James Collinson the money, for a shed load of property in Ousegate.
Yes, I think you make a good point. Also some of these property transactions George Hood was involved in, have a number of parties signing the Release (besides the Sellers and George Hood the Buyer on the Lease part, of the Sale transfer). It would have taken great skill and negotiation to bring all the parties round the table to begin with!
Some Landed Gentry claim as low as £200 initial valuation, regarding their Wills.
In Latin there was a word - cooperor
Lewis & Short Co-operor meaning, to work with or together, combine, unite (late Latin). II. Transf., of things:
Perhaps a 'poor boy' to start with. Learning a Cooper trade, who did well, or perhaps not? We know a lot about him at Selby, but absolutely nothing as to his origin, or whether he was even local to Selby before 1812.
I hope to have a copy of Yorkshire Catholics 1767 extract soon.
Regards Mark
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Hi, let me know if you require a look around the church yard at Carlton, it's 15 minutes down the road from me ;)
Frank.
Hello Frank
Thank you very much. The Register transcription I have on fiche (up to 1812) is for Carlton Juxta Snaith (and according to Yorkshire Parishes by Colin Blanshard Withers), is a Chapel of ease to Snaith.
Think I have misunderstood you and that Carlton Roman Catholic graveyard and Church is a separate church (to the above) and older than Selby R.C., possibly with 1845 burials?
If you wish to look please in the Carlton R.C. Church and Graveyard, I would appreciate that very much, thank you.
Even if you cannot find any Hood graves (due to a possible missing or removed headstone / memorial), please can you note a few other names, dates and ages buried there in 1845, as I might be able to track down the pages on one of the two family history sites, enabling me to find any page images (if online)?
George Hood, death 18 September 1845.
Sarah Hood, Widow of George Hood, death 28 November 1879, aged 86 yrs.
Sarah Hood, daughter of George Hood Tanner and Brewer deceased, death 22 September 1853, aged 18 yrs.
Mary Hood, daughter of George Hood Tanner and Brewer deceased, death 24 November 1854, aged 34 yrs.
Ellen Hood, daughter of George Hood Tanner and Brewer deceased, death 27 July 1855, aged 23 yrs.
Thank you very much.
Kind regards, Mark
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Hi Mark, I had a drive out to Carlton today to have a look in the RC Church and Churchyard, unfortunately there are no Hood family members buried there, to be honest there were only a few burials in total which I found very strange :-\
I could not gain access to the Church as it was locked and there appeared to be no one in the office building which is to the rear of it as that was also locked which was very frustrating to say the least ::)
Any way, I noted a couple of the names on gravestones for you in case they pop up in your research, these were burials between 1847 and 1884.
Ann Whitehead died 24th June 1847 aged 22 years
William Whitehead (son of above) died August 1847 aged 14 weeks
Robert Watson died 29th May 1847
Margaret Watson (wife of above) died 8th? March 1853
Thomas Ellison died 24th March 1859
Ann Ellison (wife of above) died 19th March 1884
Sorry I couldn't be of more help to you, I will probably be passing through Carlton again over the weekend so will see if I can gain access to the Church and have a look inside.
Regards
Frank :)
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Hello Frank
Thank you ever so much, I will note down the burials and see if the images show up anywhere and look for adjacent pages.
A lot of headstones were cleared, buried and new turf laid at many Cemeteries in the 20th Century.
Thanks again.
Kind regards, Mark
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Baptisms do not always show the date of birth or in some cases the year of birth can be years earlier being baptized as children or even baptized as an adult to marry in church 16th century to 1836
1783 to 1794 baptisms - a tax of three pence was levied
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=492071.0
Post 1794 block baptisms sometimes 3 to 6 children baptized all on one day - say aged 0 to 10 by parents: were suddenly very popular.
In other words George could have been baptized anytime up to 1815 as in most cases ended up as a Bond Allegation intent with a later marriage by license. It was down to the individual vicar to decide the approach over the marriage. Parish of birth (was big medicine those days as responsible of its parishioners or manorial and the legal doc's for better offs also wealth status if poor) or parish of marriage or burial in consecrated ground if not baptized.
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Thanks dobfarm for your baptism comments.
Hello All
Thanks for looking in.
Just a recap on new Parish Registers checked so far (incl previous)
There are no George Hood Burials, (Tanner & Brewer, dying 18th September 1845), in the following microfilmed Parish Burial Registers:-
Appleton le Street
Barlby
Birkin
Brayton
Bubwith
Carlton juxta Snaith (Carlton in Snaith) no 1845 burial. Register note says:- Baptisms A Duty of 3d charged for every Baptism to be paid from the 2d Day of October, 1783. Also 1780 -1789 Baptisms checked.
Cawood
Coxwold
Drax
Dunnington
Elvington
Escrick
Hemingbro’
Kirkby Wharfe
Monk Fryston
Riccall
Rufforth
Ryther
Saxton
Selby
Sherburn in Elmet
Skipwith
Stillingfleet
Thorganby
Wheldrake
Wistow
YORK
St Edward the Confessor, Dringhouses, York
St Michael Le Belfry [also no August 1786 John Hood burial]
St Olave [also no August 1786 John Hood burial]
All Saints North Street
Holy Trinity in Goodramgate
Holy Trinity, Kings Court
Holy Trinity, Micklegate
St Crux
St Cuthbert
St Denys (St Dennis & St George)
St Helen, Stonegate
St Johns Ousebridge End
St Lawrence
St Margarets
St Martins Coney Street
St Martin cum Gregory
St Mary Bishophill Junior
St Mary Bishophill Snr
St Mary Castlegate
St Maurice
St Sampson
END OF CHURCHES prefixed YORK
And following Parish Registers on Fiche
Aldborough (PE 76/11)
Beverley St John, Minster (“St John & St Martin” on fiche)
Beverley St Mary (& St Nicholas on fiche) [Robert Hood age 16, Dog & Duck Lane, 27th August 1845]
Blacktoft
Catwick
Cloughton
Cottingham
Bridlington St Mary Parish
Driffield
Little Driffield
Drypool
Easington Parish
Eastrington
Filey
Flamborough
Foston on the Wolds
Foxholes [noted Joseph Hood of Foxholes, Year 1, buried 6th April 1845]
Hedon
Hessle
Hollym cum Withernsea [William Collinson of Patrington 29 yrs, 4th May 1845]
Holme on the Wolds
Hornsea
Hotham
Howden
Hull Holy Trinity
Hull St James Parish
Hull St Mark in the Groves
Hull St Mary Lowgate Parish PE 185/28 (St Mary in the Town, on fiche)
Hull St Stephen Parish [No 1845 burials per catalogue]
Langtoft with Cottam
Leconfield
Leven
Marfleet St Giles
Middleton on the Wolds
Sewerby [No burials before 1859 per Catalogue]
Scorborough PE 117/7
Sculcoates St Marys
Walkington [Ann Collinson of Hull, age 77, 13 Jan 1848]
Goughy has checked the following:-
he's not in Howden or Snaith
nor is he in Brotherton
Not in Church Fenton
My word Yorkshire is a massive place!! George Hood burial September 1845 still a mystery?
Kind Regards Mark
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Hi
I have posted these links so that I can find them quickly ...
Found some Wills etc., now online on FindMyPast ...
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/york-peculiars-probate-index-1383-1883
Sadly for Selby these are not. The Borthwick seem to say it is because they are rolled into bundles and each one ordered at £10 have to be checked, to see that it can be flattened for reprographic work.
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/prerogative-and-exchequer-courts-of-york-probate-index-1688-1858
For those held by Durham (link below), re the names do your surname search only, then it brings up names with the number of wills for each name, tick one name at a time, click view records and it takes you to link/s. Some are links to individual Wills/Probates, other links go to a long sequence of several hundred images, so take a note of the folio numbers BEFORE you click the link (or go back). Once you have the folio number/s, you will have to guess roughly where the number is (in the sequence) and search using that number in the image box, then click adjacent back and forth circular arrows, or another search until you find the Will, in a sequence.
But they are FREE images. The amount of Hoods, I have viewed would have cost £300 (@ £10 each from other archives).
http://familyrecords.dur.ac.uk/nei/data/simple.php
Regards, Mark
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Hello All
Moved from here ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.18
Because the Church grave yards were overspilling, some graveyards were built up, level with the top of the boundary wall, so I've been checking the private General Cemetery Companies.
Some Dissenting (N.C.) Churches, don't seem to know generally now, where their dead were buried, when their local faith Church/Chapel had no graveyard.
It seems in some towns, the Council have made the new Crematorium responsible for archiving their records.
Regards Mark
EDIT: Regarding closed Graveyards during 19th Century, I have discovered (in the London Gazette) that their spouse and unmarried Children can be buried at their parents graveyard, in some cases.
In the recent list on here I also missed:-
Richard Hood, Grocer, aged 23, who died of "Consumption Certified" Market Place Selby on 2nd May 1850, James Hood of Wren Lane was present at death.
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Hi Mark
This morning I remembered to ask a Family History Group member if she knew about Roman Catholic registers for Selby. She said she thought all the RC registers are retained at St Mary's RC Church in Selby (which is not unusual for RCs). She thinks the Carlton ones are retained at Carlton, but could also be at Carlton Towers. She says it would be worth contacting St Mary's RC in Selby. Contact details on website http://stmarysselby.org.uk/
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Hello All
Thanks Goughy, I was rather disappointed not to get a reply, but will try again.
I am asking on the North Riding section whether Grace Fothergill (married to William Hood) was linked to John Fothergill of Selby (see 3 attachments) ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=753233.msg6020952#msg6020952
Also Carlton Hall has a Mortuarium
Page 30, 9th March 1912
The Rev. Chas. Forestier was chaplain to the Hon. Edward Petre, and in charge of the Selby Mission from 1810 to 1822—the year of his death and burial there—when the Rev. Robert Hogarth made the following remarkable entry in the Mortuarium at Carlton Hall, where he had succeeded the Rev. Chas. Forestier as chaplain to Mr. Thomas Stapleton, the first claimant to the Barony of Beaumont, the title at present held by his younger brother's (Miles Stapleton's) great-great-granddaughter, the Baroness Beaumont, of Carlton Towers, Yorks.
Also a Hood grave vault in North Yorkshire possibly linked to Hood of Yafforth and Nettleham, but I have temporarily mislaid the note amongst many pages.
Regards Mark
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Been informed William Hood's Burial Notes (d.1870 aged 54) span over two pages, will these tell us more about his father George Hood (my 4 X Gt. Grandfather) or Hood family, watch this space.
Re Roman Catholic 1845 Births and Burials, I have asked their Leeds Diocese Communications Office for help.
Regards Mark
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Hello All
There is one "Hood Family Vault" at East Cowton, near Richmond.
I have posted under North Yorkshire ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=753299.msg6021766#msg6021766
No joy with the 1870 Quaker record :(
Regards Mark
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Selby Times newspaper started 1869 onwards (Sarah Hood burial or obituary 1879 maybe in it)
http://www.wakefieldfhs.org.uk/Newspapers.htm
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Thanks dobfarm
Selby Library checked the Selby Times for me some time ago, as you are quite right, the Selby Times began before the death of Sarah Hood (senior) nee Russel, dying 1879.
Rather than spouting on, in the Obit notice about George Hood (d.1845) being liked by everyone who knew him, it would have been more helpful saying 'son of ... ' or 'buried at ... '
I read 5 Wills on the 1383 to 1883 index, in the time allowed at the Library.
There are a lot of John Spencer Wills, on the other index to 1858, but these have to be purchased from the Borthwick.
There was a John Spencer, a Farmer of Sherburn in Elmet, 1763, around the date of interest.
However, there is some image of a "Requisition directed as above" [but above part missing], which refers to a Catherine Hawke wife of the ? Sir Edward Hawke Knight of the Bath the daughter of Walter Brooks late of Burton in the Parish of BRAYTON in the province of York ... ? ... Goods of the said Walter Brookes ... by Calostinos Brooks his ? . 31 January 1756
Signed
Mary Spencer of Sherburne in the County of York Widow
William Cooper of the same place Yeoman
John Morther [or John Morthan] of Nottingham
On getting home, it seems this Sir Edward Hawke, was a very big Admiralty / Navy chap.
On the IGI as marrying at Somerset House to Catherine Brooke (not Brooks)
I don't think this John Spencer is for us, but just interesting, although I could not see how Hawke fitted in with Spencer, but part seems to be missing.
Regards Mark
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This John Spencer of Scarborough, Mariner, linked to Maudland Hood.
The Scarborough St Mary's Churchyard M.I. ...
Head Stone -
Sacred/
to the Memory of/
MARY the wife of/
JOHN SPENCER/
who departed this life/
August (?g) 18??/
aged (33 or 83) years.
I should of looked for year of this and an age, in the m/f Registers, whilst at Beverley, because the compiler has not tried to find the Register entry, possibly due to not having the year.
Due to OCR sometimes being poor and too many returns, if I had a year date, I could manually search the Death columns on the BNA.
Also, I got the Will of Catherine Spencer, Wife of Scarborough (from TNA), 1782
... my late Uncle Henry Rowe, late of Bloomsbury Square, London, Esquire ...
... Wife of Robert Spencer of Scarborough in the county of York ...
... Mother in Law Mary Spencer ...
... my Son [?first name?] Paxton Spencer ...
... my Son Hutton Rowe Spencer ...
... my Sister Jane Rowe ...
... my Brother Anthony Rowe ...
... my Husband Robert Spencer ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D622184
I should like to find out if she had a residence in Scarborough.
Her children (named in the Will) and the one by whom she was pregnant were left £700 each too! Some of them appear at various places in England as adults, later.
Regards Mark
EDIT: Added a headstone M.I., from Scarborough 18??, is the corresponding Register entry online please? If I had her age confirmed as 83 and a year date, it might be worth me searching the deaths in the BNA manually.
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I cannot see any reference to Mary Spencer in the burial registers at St Mary, Scarborough in the 1800's. Or any Spencer at all prior to Civil Registration in 1837.
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Mary Spencer buried St Mary's 1786 (born 1706) No other info in burial register This Mary was buried 23 APRIL
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Mary Spencer buried St Mary's 1786 (born 1706) No other info in burial register This Mary was buried 23 APRIL
Thanks Goughy and Bumblebee
Is (born 1706) on the image please, if available?
The Scarborough St Mary's Churchyard M.I. ...
Head Stone -
Sacred/
to the Memory of/
MARY the wife of/
JOHN SPENCER/
who departed this life/
August (?g) 18??/
aged (33 or 83) years.
Mary Spencer, 1786, Beverley
I can't see the month, but this might / might not be her Will ...
Or is someone linking it to someone else buried at Beverley or elsewhere, please?
Searched 1786 -/+ 10 years - up to 1858 Index ...
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/results/world-records/prerogative-and-exchequer-courts-of-york-probate-index-1688-1858?firstname=mary&firstname_variants=true&lastname=spencer&eventyear=1786&eventyear_offset=10
Hull History Centre
18 Feb 1763 - Mortgage: for £80: Hester Audas to Mary Spencer both of Beverley widows.
These were 'widows' at Beverley, so possibly 1786 Will related to a widow.
However, transcription of Scarborough Headstone says 'Mary the Wife of' suggesting John Spencer might have outlived her?
Kind regards Mark
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The burial entry for Mary Spencer - 23 April 1786 - states that Mary is aged 80. A very clear and legible image.
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Does the names Thomas Fletcher or Jane Fletcher ring any bells in your database -Mark
I've been in Selby most of the day checking this and that !!.
That Selby Times 28th Nov 1879 weekly issue as you said just gives - Death Sarah wife of late George Hood of Selby Nov 28th and was put in the newspaper the same day she died even though it was a weekly paper. What I did notice was when a death was in Selby and the deceased was interred elsewhere in another Parish it stated so in the deaths, I checked quite a few random weeks and years of death columns in the Selby times but always the same with Selby (assumed home parish burial or any denomination burial in Selby [cemetery ?] ) deaths not mentioning where interred only other parishes.
The death under Sarah Hood was of Selby interred at Stillingfleet parish church graveyard
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Does the names Thomas Fletcher or Jane Fletcher ring any bells in your database -Mark
I've been in Selby most of the day checking this and that !!.
That Selby Times 28th Nov 1879 weekly issue as you said just gives - Death Sarah wife of late George Hood of Selby Nov 28th and was put in the newspaper the same day she died even though it was a weekly paper. What I did notice was when a death was in Selby and the deceased was interred elsewhere in another Parish it stated so in the deaths, I checked quite a few random weeks and years of death columns in the Selby times but always the same with Selby (assumed home parish burial or any denomination burial in Selby [cemetery ?] ) deaths not mentioning where interred only other parishes.
The death under Sarah Hood was of Selby interred at Stillingfleet parish church graveyard
Hello dobfarm
Thank you very much.
Oh heck (a saying of my Grandma Hood), I gave Selby Library Sarah Hood's 1879 date of death and they could find NO entry.
But there is an entry you say.
I can't say Fletcher rings a bell at the Yorkshire end yet.
Only Fletcher Documents in the Leicester City Museum. John Hood of Castle Donnington and an Edward Hood mentioned and also John Hood of Bardon Park are menioned in the Fletcher Documents.
Thanks for your dedication to this quest.
Can't do much more today, as my wife wants a day out!
Will of Thomas Gouldsbrough late of Selby Yeoman deced 24th October 1842 piece inside says 22d Octr 1840, passed 24th October 1840 and Will is dated/written 17 April 1837 ... only refers to the two fields, near Selby that would need to be sold to clear an outstanding mortgage, but NO reference to Hood at all.
In the Will Thomas Gouldsbrough refers to his warehouse used by William Smith and crane, his son George Buttle Gouldsbrough and three daughters Ann Bonnell of Gainsbrough Co. of Lincoln; Hannah Gouldsbrough; ?? Cape wife of John Cape [Cape or Gape, written on fold, partly obscured] all of Selby. His Messuages and Tenements or Dwelling houses in the shipyard a Sail loft to the same (apparently Leasehold) ... excepting one other House situate in the Ship Yard and adjoining the House to be occupied or let by her Mother in Law Mary Gouldsbrough ... my daughter Hannah Gouldsbrough. Gouldsbrough also refers to property elsewhere at Knottingley near Ferrybridge in the Parish of Pontefract now in the occupations of James Smith and another which he gives unto to my son George Buttle Gouldsbrough... refers to his wife Mary Gouldsbrough and also to his brother James Gouldsbrough now of York.
Executors were George Clarkson Jun'r and William Bradley.
Witnesses
Edward Dickinson
Charles Musgrave
Jonathan Shelton [or Shetton, or Skelton, or Sketton]
Clark and Clarkson surnames are party names, mentioned in one or two of George Hood's Selby property registrations.
Kind regards Mark
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Just looked at the images for burials at Stillingfleet and Sarah is not shown. In fact no burial entries between 5 September 1879 and 6 January 1880 at all.
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Thomas Fletcher married Jane Hood in Cloughton 1789.
This could have 2 meanings :, either John Hood (Marr 1762 Scalby Jane Dickingson) died and Jane Hood nee Dickinson remarried to Thomas Fletcher. But no John Hood burial between 1762 and 1789 around Scarborough or Scalby
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A daughter Jane Hood of John Hood and Jane Hood snr (nee Dickinson) 1789 Cloughton. (Need to check the original marriage in the register)
This means daughter Sarah Hood burial 1785 of John and Jane Hood Coughton 1785
Possible daughter Jane Hood above marriage Cloughton 1789
Possible son John Hood marriage to Jane Newby 1793.
1 known Sarah and 2 possible siblings children of Jane Dickinson (Mrs Hood) but no baptisms in Scalby/Coughton/Burniston of her children
Above Jane Hood (Dickinson) had children after 1762 marriage Scalby
No baptisms could mean George b 1786/7 in Cloughton of John and Jane Hood (Dickinson)
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Does the names Thomas Fletcher or Jane Fletcher ring any bells in your database -Mark
I've been in Selby most of the day checking this and that !!.
That Selby Times 28th Nov 1879 weekly issue as you said just gives - Death Sarah wife of late George Hood of Selby Nov 28th and was put in the newspaper the same day she died even though it was a weekly paper. What I did notice was when a death was in Selby and the deceased was interred elsewhere in another Parish it stated so in the deaths, I checked quite a few random weeks and years of death columns in the Selby times but always the same with Selby (assumed home parish burial or any denomination burial in Selby [cemetery ?] ) deaths not mentioning where interred only other parishes.
The death under Sarah Hood was of Selby interred at Stillingfleet parish church graveyard
Hello dobfarm
Thank you very much.
Oh heck (a saying of my Grandma Hood), I gave Selby Library Sarah Hood's 1879 date of death and they could find NO entry.
But there is an entry you say.
I can't say Fletcher rings a bell at the Yorkshire end yet.
Only Fletcher Documents in the Leicester City Museum. John Hood of Castle Donnington and an Edward Hood mentioned and also John Hood of Bardon Park are menioned in the Fletcher Documents.
Thanks for your dedication to this quest.
Can't do much more today, as my wife wants a day out!
Will of Thomas Gouldsbrough late of Selby Yeoman deced 24th October 1842 piece inside says 22d Octr 1840, passed 24th October 1840 and Will is dated/written 17 April 1837 ... only refers to the two fields, near Selby that would need to be sold to clear an outstanding mortgage, but NO reference to Hood at all.
In the Will Thomas Gouldsbrough refers to his warehouse used by William Smith and crane, his son George Buttle Gouldsbrough and three daughters Ann Bonnell of Gainsbrough Co. of Lincoln; Hannah Gouldsbrough; ?? Cape wife of John Cape [Cape or Gape, written on fold, partly obscured] all of Selby. His Messuages and Tenements or Dwelling houses in the shipyard a Sail loft to the same (apparently Leasehold) ... occupied or let my her Mother in Law Mary Gouldsbrough unto my daughter Hannah Gouldsbrough. Gouldsbrough also refers to property elsewhere at Knottingley near Ferrybridge in the Parish of Pontefract now in the occupations of James Smith and another which he gives unto to my son George Buttle Gouldsbrough... refers to his wife Mary Gouldsbrough and also to his brother James Gouldsbrough now of York.
Executors were George Clarkson Jun'r and William Bradley.
Witnesses
Edward Dickinson
Charles Musgrave
Jonathan Shelton [or Shetton, or Skelton, or Sketton]
Clark and Clarkson surnames are party names, mentioned in one or two of George Hood's Selby property registrations.
Kind regards Mark
Reason the Selby library staff missed Sarah's burial would be as I did :o at first assumed the entry would be in the next weeks newspaper after Sarah died as the week before seeing as the Newspaper was out. was published on the weekly day of the week Sarah died 28th Nov 1879 but she was in it 28th Nov 1879 weekly issue.
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Cloughton - 10 September 1789
Thomas Fletcher, Labourer, Bachelor and Jane Hood, Spinster, botp by Banns
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Cloughton - 10 September 1789
Thomas Fletcher, Labourer, Bachelor and Jane Hood, Spinster, botp by Banns
There you have it she could be in fact highly most likely the daughter (going by the lack of any other Hood's in Cloughton at that time ) of John Hood and Jane Dickinson unbaptized as well as George Hood D 1845 - big question mark ? :-[
Edited today 6th Aug 2016
Info from BumbleB by email today.
Forget the above Cloughton theory of George
Jane Hood (most likely nee Dickinson) buried 1822 Cloughton PR age 90 (Esti born 1732) and can't be Jane Hood 1803 age 65 burial Selby wife of John Hood mariner
another B T T D'ing board
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I've been in Selby most of the day checking this and that !!.
...... but you didn't offer to buy me lunch Dobby! ;D
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Hood Scarborough Burials
PE 165/43
1770. 28 July
Jane Hood
PE 165/43
1771. 07 April
William Hood
1772. 17 February
George S. of John Hood
1772. 25 March
Richard S. of John Hood
PE 165/43
1774. 26 January
John son of John Hood Mariner
PE 165/43
1775. 24 December
Elizabeth Wife of John Hood
PE 165/43
1776. 07 December
Spencer Son of John Hood
PE 165/44
1778. 03 September
George Son of John Hood
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Marriage at St Mary's Scarborough
26th July 1795 No: 1067
William Hood Mariner Bachelor age 27
and
Elizabeth Winteringham Spinster age 30
both of this Parish
By me John Kirk Vicar
Witnesses: Jane Porrith John Coxton
Baptism at Scarborough
1775 December
24. Maudland D of John & Eliz. Hood. August 15
Hello All
There were several John Hood Mariners of Scarborough according to signatures on 1759; 1763 and 1778 Marriage Bonds/Intents.
Assuming (highly dangerous), but say all the child burials (above) in the 1770s were the children of the same John Hood, he/you would say, I'm moving on and John Hood would take Maudland Hood his daughter away and start again.
1781 Selby Land Tax confirms a J Hood.
1782 Selby Land Tax Mr Hood.
It is 99% certain that John Hood has finished with Scarborough and living at Selby before (or by) 1781.
At some point before Jane Hood's death, 1803 burial Selby, John Hood of Selby Mariner has married a Jane, as he is a Mariner this Marriage could of taken place anywhere.
John Hood Abode Selby buried Selby April 1819, aged 82, this age would tally with a Scarborough Baptism 1738 for John Hood and suggest he was C of E.
A John Hood living in a House in Millgate, Selby in 1802 (when new owner's Deed is registered). Mountain's 1800 Directory confirms other Mariners living in Millgate.
Although, we have not found John Hood and Jane's marriage, everything else above ties up.
Slight chance John Hood a Mariner could be in the Navy Admiralty originally, who had arrangements I believe for marrying?
George Hood
Re George Hood (married Selby 1815 aged 28) he could be John Hood's son but no Selby baptism, which could be explained if parents were Independent (as no records survive), but John Hood of Selby, Mariner, late of Scarborough seems to be C of E.
The Borthwick indexes, suggested the female party to the Marriage, could apply for the Marriage Bond too.
If the female party to the Marriage applied for the Marriage Bond, it could suggest there was no Birth record and / or was a Dissenter. There must have been some intermarriage between faiths.
George Hood
George Hood is marrying Sarah Russel with a Licence at Selby, along with a Marriage Allegation and a Marriage Bond (which George has applied for) to the Selby Court. Also George is not buried at Selby. The Selby Abbey Church has no baptism information in their Register, so he is either from somewhere else, or born to Dissenting, or Catholic parent/s, or both and/or no birth record, hence the need for him to get a Bond.
There is likely no surviving Birth / Baptism now for George Hood, if born to Dissenting parent/s at Selby. Still awaiting Catholic reply.
This possibly only leaves George Hood unknown burial place, of which the Burial Register (if ever found) may/may not give more info about his origin, for me to find.
Possibly, finding the John Hood and Jane's Marriage and their Marriage place, might (if George was born to them) might / might not reveal a Parish Baptism for George.
No Apprenticeship or Parish record. The 1808 Selby Assessment of Residents, was for church repairs.
I'm afraid for Mariners, until full surviving records are online, only what we definitely know, from records we found is all I've got for the time being.
George Hood marrying Selby in 1815 by Licence, with Allegation and Bond is my 4 X Gt. Grandfather and that he might, or might not be related to John Hood of Selby Mariner.
Kind regards Mark
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Hi Mark
You know something I did not know-Birth certificates before July 1837 though I have come across one parish birth register papers in Bradford but its very rare. Some parish registers give date of birth on baptism registers, some before, but most after 1812. So how would George acquire a birth certificate for a marriage 1815.
Also John and Jane Hood burial 1803 age 65 b 1738 wife of John Hood the mariner and father John Hood and first wife Elizabeth Leppington died 1775 birth year from Bond allegation John born 1737 is that fact Jane 1803 burial age 65-born 1738 would be a little old to have to have George 1786/7
Hence I still think one of John Hood ( husband of Jane burial 1803) sons was George's father ( a missing generation)
Meaning John Hood the mariner was George's granddad based on the age maths
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Hi Mark
You know something I did not know-Birth certificates before July 1837 though I have come across one parish birth register papers in Bradford but its very rare. Some parish registers give date of birth on baptism registers, some before, but most after 1812. So how would George acquire a birth certificate for a marriage 1815.
Also John and Jane Hood burial 1803 age 65 b 1738 wife of John Hood the mariner and mother and father John Hood and Elizabeth Leppington died 1775 birth year from Bond allegation born 1737 is that fact Jane would be a little old to have to have George 1786/7
Hence I still think one of John Hood ( husband of Jane burial 1803) sons was George's father ( a missing generation)
Hello dobfarm
Perhaps I should rephrase and say "no birth record" or "no baptism record".
Unless pre 1837 Registers and BMD items have come to light, since the late 1830s deposits to the Registrar General, which the Registrar General either returned, or passed to the PRO (Now TNA), then there is ...
No Birth Register before 1811 for Selby Independents ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2494014
No Birth Register before 1797 for Selby Presbyterians ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C6242971
No Birth Register before 1815 for Selby Wesleyans ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2494017
Re Catholics, I am enquiring with their Diocese if any earlier Selby Birth or Baptism Registers exist ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2494016
Some Registers are in County Record Offices, or a few still with the Chapel or Church.
A Church in Worcestershire still had the original Registers in the Safe (Mums side).
Regards Mark
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Hello dobfarm and All
Thanks for that Google books link, regarding Rev David Senior being at the Independent Chapel, Selby.
The newspapers also confirm David Senior was at Selby Independent Chapel when George Hood died in September 1845.
In 1835 ... one of George Hood's Undertenants was John Green.
Done a search either side of 1845 with the name David Senior and found this in York Herald 8 April 1848, that the Rev David Senior, Selby Independent married Samuel Wand, linen draper, to Miss Green, eldest daughter of Mr. John Green, all of that place.
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Apparently, c.1839 David Senior Pastor was formerly of Brotherton.
Hull Advertiser Friday 20th June 1845
Another, marriage by Rev David Senior at the Independent Chapel, Selby, mentions Mr Samuel Hutchinson of Bradford, sharebroker, marrying Ellen, daughter of John Adams, Esq., of the former place.
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Kind regards, Mark
Hello dobfarm, Goughy, Bumblebee
Found a John Adams of Selby (1865), looking after the sale of the Old-established, 90 Pit Tan-Yard, Engine house, Drying Sheds, Bark Mill, Stables, Granaries, Dwelling House and Cottages, at Gowthorpe, Selby. The Dwelling House and Tan-yard lately being in the occupation of Mrs Hood.
John Adams was mentioned in 1845 in relation to George Hood's property and possibly an Independent, if the same Adams, as in the marriage quoted.
Selby Independent was also called the Bethesda Chapel, this was also known as 'Selby Congregational' and in 1972 the Congregationalists joined with the Presbyterians to form the United Reformed Church (URC).
A brief pdf of the building is online, has a photograph with a brief history, including D. Senior being there ...
[PDF] Selby United Reformed Church - Statement
Also, some general info in The Tourist's Companion; ... From Leeds and Selby to Hull. by Edward Parsons, 1835, from p.138 about the Independent and other dissenters at Selby.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1X8uAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA138&lpg=PA138&dq=William+Bowden+of+Hull&source=bl&ots=3hLY9IaihM&sig=Fh3hu9ZW9g4OBDhuojn0Z4r7NaU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAvqH45snLAhXF0RQKHVUGDW8Q6AEIJTAE
John Clapham of Leeds and William Bowden of Hull, leading members of that body known as Independents in these towns, associated with friends in Selby for the purpose of establishing a church and congregation. The Selby Chapel in New Lane, was completed in 1809.
In 1812 the Rev. Thomas Pinchback was appointed Minister and from 1839 D. Senior.
I have asked the URC and archives, if they have any information c.1845, or burial information.
Kind regards, Mark
EDIT: Apparently, some records (after 1837) may still be held by individual churches and Record Offices.
Re my Edit, immediately above, it seems surviving pre 1837 records might not all be at TNA, but at Archives, or with the Church/Chapel, or not survived at all.
People seem to be changing as new faiths sprang up.
Just noticed last week, that Quakers and Jews were exempt from the need to have a C of E marriage (Hardwicke's Marriage Act).
Late George Hood possibly been taken back to his birth Parish for burial, or some other denominational burial place, which I'll probably never find
Regards Mark
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2 things -shot too now't
1) The is one gravestone outside the catholic church Gowthorpe Selby on land that was build on a tannery-very long shot it maybe George. Its on private land so may need permission to see it from the church.
2) To cut along story short, my GT granddad died 1851 was buried Temple Balsall in Wark's in an un marked - grave location unknown, then one day on Rootschat website a member ! a lady had a sextons grave location book of a sexton ancestor of hers who gave me GT granddads grave location at St Mary's churchyard Temple Balsall.
Therefore post a thread to ask if anyone knows the whereabouts of any Sexton records for Selby Abbey or any denomination graveyard in a 25 mile radius of Selby as it may pay off one in the future day as it did for me even without me posting for that specific info. Strange how the unexpected does and can come along when one seems to have give up hope..
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Hello All
dobfarm, this 'gravestone' near Selby Catholic Church.
Facing the Catholic Church, with your back to the road, is this grave on your left, or right side of the church boundary wall?
In the front garden, or to the rear of a property?
Can you see it from the pavement, or did you see it from the Churchyard looking over the Church boundary side wall, or back wall?
Apparently, the Tannery lately occupied by Mrs Hood was still there after the R.C. Church was built.
2. Re these Sexton, or Graveyard or Churchyard books, I have the photocopy pages for an Aircrew, as well as the Register entries and they can be useful, when the graveyard memorials remain pretty much intact.
Kind regards, Mark
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Hello All
dobfarm, this 'gravestone' near Selby Catholic Church.
Facing the Catholic Church, with your back to the road, is this grave on your left, or right side of the church boundary wall?
In the front garden, or to the rear of a property?
Can you see it from the pavement, or did you see it from the Churchyard looking over the Church boundary side wall, or back wall?
Apparently, the Tannery lately occupied by Mrs Hood was still there after the R.C. Church was built.
2. Re these Sexton, or Graveyard or Churchyard books, I have the photocopy pages for an Aircrew, as well as the Register entries and they can be useful, when the graveyard memorials remain pretty much intact.
Kind regards, Mark
Very possible more headstones at the back or headstones moved and propped up against a wall at the back removed from where the cark is now.
http://stmarysselby.org.uk/
Saw gravestone while sat upstairs on a double decker bus from Leeds in front of the church. ( free buspass)
Real is a shot in the dark this and most likely a vicar or an important somebody of the church but also could be George with your missing burials.
Right of centre of street view link
In the link photo- back of white van, under the first arched window, directly in front of a lonesome one off - deep maroon red rose tree but zoom in as gravestone blends into the church walls background. Headstone has a see through cross shape and looks like a chess pawn outer shape with a head stone and a flat stone over the grave.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.7820815,-1.077074,3a,38.6y,340.99h,78.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smi2zzFDzISDq-D978viK4Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
1800's OS map RC church Gowthorpe built on open land part of land of side of Tannery buildings
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Therefore post a thread to ask if anyone knows the whereabouts of any Sexton records for Selby Abbey
According to Verger at Selby Abbey, Selby Sexton records held at Leeds City Archives
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Therefore post a thread to ask if anyone knows the whereabouts of any Sexton records for Selby Abbey
According to Verger at Selby Abbey, Selby Sexton records held at Leeds City Archives
Hello Goughy and All
Thanks, that explains why we couldn't find the plan or Graveyard/Churchyard (Sexton) Book in the Borthwick paper Indexes. The only document related to the floor of the Abbey Floor, but was too general.
Son of James and Sarah Hood of Selby
Although not in my direct lineage and me being a generation further back (from James and Sarah Hood of Selby), I thought at £9.25 the 1863 Birth Certificate of their son James Alfred Hood was worth a gamble, for possible address of an elderly (sideways) Hood relative, because by 1865 James and Sarah Hood were back in Selby.
Question
I am after please, an 1861 Census and (close to) 1863 Street Directory look-up please?
For the following address ...
REGISTRATION DISTRICT - SUNDERLAND
BIRTH in the Sub-district of South Bishopwearmouth in the County of Durham
Born 34 Blandford Street Sunderland Bishopwearmouth [address has gone into the name column]
Name, if any James Alfred 20
[Haven't got a clue why 20 appears in the name column, unless the place had numbered districts]
James Hood Father 34 Blandford Street Sunderland and Occupation as Chandler (Foreman)
The 25th September 1863 birth was registered on 5th November 1863.
Regards Mark
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In 1861 living at 34 Blandford Street were a David (born 1831) and Dinah Rankin. Both born Sunderland. Occ Master Carpenter. Also in building was a John P (Occ Draper) and Catherine McGregor
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Therefore post a thread to ask if anyone knows the whereabouts of any Sexton records for Selby Abbey
According to Verger at Selby Abbey, Selby Sexton records held at Leeds City Archives
Hello Goughy and All
Thanks, that explains why we couldn't find the plan or Graveyard/Churchyard (Sexton) Book in the Borthwick paper Indexes. The only document related to the floor of the Abbey Floor, but was too general.
Son of James and Sarah Hood of Selby
Although not in my direct lineage and me being a generation further back (from James and Sarah Hood of Selby), I thought at £9.25 the 25th September 1863 Birth Certificate of their son James Alfred Hood was worth a gamble, for possible address of an elderly (sideways) Hood relative, because by 1865 James and Sarah Hood were back in Selby.
Question
I am after please, an 1861 Census and (close to) 1863 Street Directory look-up please?
For the following address ...
REGISTRATION DISTRICT - SUNDERLAND
BIRTH in the Sub-district of South Bishopwearmouth in the County of Durham
Born 34 Blandford Street Sunderland Bishopwearmouth [address has gone into the name column]
Name, if any James Alfred 20
[Haven't got a clue why 20 appears in the name column, unless the place had numbered districts]
Father gave his address as:-
James Hood Father 34 Blandford Street Sunderland and Occupation as Chandler (Foreman)
The 25th September 1863 birth was registered on 5th November 1863.
Regards Mark
John Clark rings bells. could also be coincidence
John Clark x Margaret Hood married 11 February 1762 Sunderland, Durham, England
(click on left arrow in front of word image in top left hand corner for picture of first page of Will in link)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTG3-NFW?i=144&wc=SDFL-7M9%3A1310048468%3Fcc%3D2365059&cc=2365059
extract: - From William Hood's Will/probate 1788 (Shields -Tynemouth)
" to be paid and amongst, my niece Margaret Clark widow of the John Clark late of Bishopwearmouth in the said county cordwainer-deceased " (Leather worker)
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John Clark rings bells.
(click on left arrow in front of word image in top left hand corner for picture of first page of Will in link)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTG3-NFW?i=144&wc=SDFL-7M9%3A1310048468%3Fcc%3D2365059&cc=2365059
extract: - From William Hood's Will/probate 1788 (Shields -Tynemouth)
" to be paid and amongst, my niece Margaret Clark widow of the John Clark late of Bishopwearmouth in the said county cordwainer-deceased " (Leather worker)
Thanks dobfarm
Because James and Sarah Hood were in Bishopwearmouth / Sunderland in 1863 (per Birth Certificate) and then back in Selby for the birth of their next child, it left me wondering:-
(i) possibly nursing an elderly relative (currently uknown) and/or
(ii) possibly present at death (of person unknown)
Yes, "John Clark of Selby" and Clarkson surnames cropped up in George Hood's Selby property registrations.
I'll look at a newspaper Hood death, I have noted for the North-east area.
In 1861 living at 34 Blandford Street were a David (born 1831) and Dinah Rankin. Both born Sunderland. Occ Master Carpenter. Also in building was a John P (Occ Draper) and Catherine McGregor
Thanks Goughy, nothing obvious, but the address narrows down where they were in the Sunderland Registration District.
Regards Mark
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John Clark rings bells.
(click on left arrow in front of word image in top left hand corner for picture of first page of Will in link)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DTG3-NFW?i=144&wc=SDFL-7M9%3A1310048468%3Fcc%3D2365059&cc=2365059
extract: - From William Hood's Will/probate 1788 (Shields -Tynemouth)
" to be paid and amongst, my niece Margaret Clark widow of the John Clark late of Bishopwearmouth in the said county cordwainer-deceased " (Leather worker)
Thanks dobfarm
Because James and Sarah Hood were in Bishopwearmouth / Sunderland in 1863 (per Birth Certificate) and then back in Selby for the birth of their next child, it left me wondering:-
(i) possibly nursing an elderly relative (currently uknown) and/or
(ii) possibly present at death (of person unknown)
Yes, "John Clark of Selby" and Clarkson surnames cropped up in George Hood's Selby property registrations.
I'll look at some newspaper Hood deaths, I have noted for the Sunderland area.
In 1861 living at 34 Blandford Street were a David (born 1831) and Dinah Rankin. Both born Sunderland. Occ Master Carpenter. Also in building was a John P (Occ Draper) and Catherine McGregor
Thanks Goughy, nothing obvious, but the address narrows down where they were in the Sunderland Registration District.
Regards Mark
John Clark x Margaret Hood married 11 February 1762 Sunderland, Durham, England
burial MARGARET CLARK 1742 1800 SUNDERLAND Durham
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Amargaret~%20%2Bsurname%3Ahood~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aengland~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1740-1744~
Quote -nursing an elderly relative - unquote
that's just what you need - just one Hood connection to an area other than Selby & Scarborough
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In 1861 living at 34 Blandford Street were a David (born 1831) and Dinah Rankin. Both born Sunderland. Occ Master Carpenter. Also in building was a John P (Occ Draper) and Catherine McGregor
Goughy
was David Ranken (Rankin) still living 34 Blandford Street 1871c or who was living there at 34 Blandford Street 1871c
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Adavid~%20%2Bsurname%3Arankin~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3Aengland~%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3Adinah~
Marriages Mar 1857
Cramlington Dinah Sunderland 10a 494
Ranken David Sunderland 10a 494
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was David Ranken (Rankin) still living 34 Blandford Street 1871c or who was living there at 34 Blandford Street 1871c
1871 following families living there
James Haymer b 1833 Scotland Occ Tailor
Mary b 1829 Durham
William Tate b 1841 Auckland Northumberland Occ Shoemaker
Jessie b 1840 Newcastle
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Son of James and Sarah Hood of Selby
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1863 Birth Certificate of their son James Alfred Hood ... because by 1865 James and Sarah Hood were back in Selby.
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REGISTRATION DISTRICT - SUNDERLAND
BIRTH in the Sub-district of South Bishopwearmouth in the County of Durham
Born 34 Blandford Street Sunderland Bishopwearmouth
Name, if any James Alfred [Hood]
James Hood Father 34 Blandford Street Sunderland and Occupation as Chandler (Foreman)
The 25th September 1863 birth was registered on 5th November 1863.
Regards Mark
Hello
A Free BMD search gives me one HOOD death in the Registration District of Sunderland around the time of the above Birth of James Alfred Hood.
Before buying a Certificate totally blind (as they might be children), I wondered please, what you can dig up on the following Deaths [or burials] registered in the District of Sunderland?
1. Were they adults and their ages?
2. Previous Census entries?
Elizabeth Ann Hood death 1863
James Hood death 1865
I've searched Hood in the BNA (newspapers) without success.
Thanks Mark
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Only death certificates will give info you desire in the certificates and unless by chance someone else has bought the certificates putting the info, rattling on about it in a tree on a ancestry websites or online or bought a unwanted death certificate put/advertised on a forum board, its unlikely that info will be in the public domain. Age at burial can be found in public records
James Hood was an agent 1861 c that could explain a move to Sunderland but uprooting with a family of kids to move with a wife who has regular pregnancy near every year and bringing up a family, to move that distance must have had long term intent to live there at the time of the move to Sunderland.
I think it would be a long term vocational reason to move there and not domestic family relation reasons ? even a very ill relative to a funeral ? -James would not uproot his whole life, job and family, more likely a visit ? be even that would have medium vocational time limits on James if that's the case. Sarah could have been visiting on her own. Hard to get ones head around for reasons why ???.
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Hello
John Hood, Mariner
John Hood of Selby Mariner [formerly of Scarborough], Abode Selby, aged 82 was buried Selby 4 April 1819, was baptised Scarborough 1738 (Register unchcked) to father George Hood.
Father George Hood, a Mariner
According to the 1731 Marriage paperwork recently found at the Borthwick his father George Hood of Scarborough was also a Mariner.
Mariners Registries?
I vaguely recall someone saying that Mariners and Seamen and some Depts have separate Registries including Wills apparently, besides the Yorkshire and other County Probate Registries and PROB 11 in the PRO/TNA.
HMSO 1965 Book
According to a H.M.S.O. Volume II, State Papers and Departmental Records 1963 printed 1965, I found in a book shop for £3 ...
Index of Seaman's Wills
The Seaman's Indices [Index/Calendar] of Wills 1786 to 1909.
ADM 142/6 Register's of Seamans Wills
Original Department Reference H
1786 to 1861
Originally (IND 1/24344)
Arranged alphabetically in two series covering 1786 to 1861 and a second set covering 1862 to 1909.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=%22ADM+142%2F6%22
Apparently give date of death of the Seaman and the first 14 volumes give name, address and relationship of Executor, or administrator of the Will.
Wills Returned
Some Wills apparently in ADM 48 (1786 to 1882)
Regards Mark
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Do think this record will cover royal navy, merchant navy, fisheries trawlers/boats, coaster/packboats and seamen/mariners that are retired ie:- John Hood 82 date burial Selby
This link - they may have or know more about the whereabouts of maritime repositories/archives other than themselves that hold mariner records.
http://www.rmg.co.uk/discover/researchers/research-guides/research-guide-a3-tracing-family-history-maritime-records
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Hello
John Hood, Mariner ???
John Hood of Selby Mariner [formerly of Scarborough], Abode Selby, aged 82 was buried Selby 4 April 1819, was baptised Scarborough 1738 (Register unchcked) to father George Hood.
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Father George Hood, a Mariner
According to the 1731 Marriage paperwork recently found at the Borthwick his father George Hood of Scarborough was also a Mariner.
Mariners Registries?
I vaguely recall someone saying that Mariners and Seamen and some Depts have separate Registries including Wills apparently, besides the Yorkshire and other County Probate Registries and PROB 11 in the PRO/TNA.
HMSO 1965 Book
According to a H.M.S.O. Volume II, State Papers and Departmental Records 1963 printed 1965, I found in a book shop for £3 ...
Index of Seaman's Wills
The Seaman's Indices [Index/Calendar] of Wills 1786 to 1909.
ADM 142/6 Register's of Seamans Wills
Original Department Reference H
1786 to 1861
Originally (IND 1/24344)
Arranged alphabetically in two series covering 1786 to 1861 and a second set covering 1862 to 1909.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=%22ADM+142%2F6%22
Apparently give date of death of the Seaman and the first 14 volumes give name, address and relationship of Executor, or administrator of the Will.
Wills Returned
Some Wills apparently in ADM 48 (1786 to 1882)
Regards Mark
Two separate issues from parish registers in Selby and highly likely the same John Hood but not proven the same man as hard fact
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John Hood of Selby Mariner [formerly of Scarborough] Unquote.
(taken from Maudline Hood marriage to Charles Turner marriage)
John Hood aged 82 burial Selby 1819 C of E there was no occupation given in the burial register.
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1. Were they adults and their ages?
2. Previous Census entries?
Elizabeth Ann Hood death 1863
James Hood death 1865
Durham Records Online is a useful site, although coverage is variable (but always increasing) http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php
The free index can give useful results:
It shows Elizabeth Ann Hood's burial in 1863, she was aged 2, abode 13 Biss Street, Millfield
They also have a record for a James Hood, buried in 1865, he was aged 74, abode 7, Woodbine Street.
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1. Were they adults and their ages?
2. Previous Census entries?
Elizabeth Ann Hood death 1863
James Hood death 1865
Durham Records Online is a useful site, although coverage is variable (but always increasing) http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php
The free index can give useful results:
It shows Elizabeth Ann Hood's burial in 1863, she was aged 2, abode 13 Biss Street, Millfield
They also have a record for a James Hood, buried in 1865, he was aged 74, abode 7, Woodbine Street.
Thanks JenB
Kind regards Mark
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I went to St Mary's RC Church today to look at the grave Dobfarm spotted from the bus. It is Canon Best's grave and he was re-buried in 1913 having been in Selby Abbey. He is the only one buried in the grounds. The Housekeeper at the Presbytery was in the garden. She invited me in to look at the Registers for St Mary's and Carlton (in exchange for the name and telephone number of my hairdresser!).
There is no George Hood burial entered in 1845 in the Selby or Carlton Register. I also had a look at baptisms back to 1780 and could not see an entry for "our George".
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I went to St Mary's RC Church today to look at the grave Dobfarm spotted from the bus. It is Canon Best's grave and he was re-buried in 1913 having been in Selby Abbey. He is the only one buried in the grounds. The Housekeeper at the Presbytery was in the garden. She invited me in to look at the Registers for St Mary's and Carlton (in exchange for the name and telephone number of my hairdresser!).
There is no George Hood burial entered in 1845 in the Selby or Carlton Register. I also had a look at baptisms back to 1780 and could not see an entry for "our George".
Its was always a long shot that - but Good elimination work Goughy ;)
;D ;D ;D that's a first and a good swop! - definitely a Women thingy what ever. ???
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Hello Goughy, dobfarm, bumblebee and All
Thank you, that is most interesting! We can rule out Catholics of both Carlton and Selby, for both George's baptism and burial.
Good job you found them, as neither the Church at Selby, nor the R.C., Diocese have replied yet.
Selby Abbey, apparently had Leases at Cliffe, Barlby, Riccall, Osgodby, South Duffield, Hemingbrough and Fulford in the East Riding and Neway in West Riding 1862. I wondered, if perhaps an overflow cemetery somewhere?
["Neway" or is it Newhay. Fulford was near City of York, adjacent Heslington]
Hull Packet 1847 October 5, ... Edwin Paxton Hood [originally born London] Author and Temperance advocate married Jane Wagstaff (dau of Wm Wagstaff of Heslington) at Salem Chapel, York and they lived at Fulford.
I have enquired about the Selby Sexton book with WYAS Leeds, but is Leeds City Archives the same, or is it attached to the Central Library please?
I'm also enquiring if there is an Act Book or Bishop's Register, which might mention the 1815 Bond or Marriage.
Regards Mark
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Link to Leeds City Archives http://www.leeds.gov.uk/leisure/Pages/Local-and-family-history-service.aspx
Verger at Abbey said "Leeds City Archives" but could be WYAS Archives. (I personally didn't speak to the Verger, it was a friend of mine)
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Farnley Hall is the Leeds city metro council archives also YAHS (YAS) Leeds Brotherton Library & Claremont House with Leeds Uni
http://www.yorkshireroots.org.uk/
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Hello Goughy, dobfarm, bumblebee and All
Thank you, that is most interesting! We can rule out Catholics of both Carlton and Selby, for both George's baptism and burial.
Good job you found them, as neither the Church at Selby, nor the R.C., Diocese have replied yet.
Selby Abbey, apparently had Leases at Cliffe, Barlby, Riccall, Osgodby, South Duffield, Hemingbrough and Fulford in the East Riding and Neway in West Riding 1862. I wondered, if perhaps an overflow cemetery somewhere?
["Neway" or is it Newhay. Fulford was near City of York, adjacent Heslington]
Hull Packet 1847 October 5, ... Edwin Paxton Hood [originally born London] Author and Temperance advocate married Jane Wagstaff (dau of Wm Wagstaff of Heslington) at Salem Chapel, York and they lived at Fulford.
I have enquired about the Selby Sexton book with WYAS Leeds, but is Leeds City Archives the same, or is it attached to the Central Library please?
I'm also enquiring if there is an Act Book or Bishop's Register, which might mention the 1815 Bond or Marriage.
Regards Mark
Its kept running through my mind that the Selby cemetery started its life as an extension burial ground field church cemetery ( not a municipal at first till 1858) to the Abbey graveyard and George Hood somehow got forgotten off the parish burial register in the confusion of burial grounds and plausible ! till one thinks about that real mystery that pops up - Burial of Sarah Hood near 34 years later. The Selby cemetery was well open by 1879 decade years later and Sarah along with the other sibling burials missing in the between years should have been recorded in the parish register or municipal cemetery burial book.
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All a Big Mystery
George Hood died "at Selby" 18 September 1845 aged 60 yrs, Tanner & Brewer. Three newspapers Yorkshire Gazette; York Herald and The Leeds Intelligencer (say 63 yrs).
However 28 years old in 1815 (Marriage), so likely 58 to 59 years (in his 60th year).
Sarah Hood "Widow of George HOOD Tanner", died 11 Gowthorpe, Selby 28 November 1879, aged 86 yrs, baptised at Selby.
Their adult children:-
Richard Hood Grocer, died Market Place, Selby 2 May 1850, aged 23 yrs (Sheffield and Rotherham Independent; York Herald; Hull Advertiser; Hull Packet; Leeds Mercury and Leeds Intelligencer - newspapers 23/ 24 yrs)
Sarah Hood died Selby 22 September 1853, aged 18 years;
Mary Hood died Selby 24 November 1854, aged 34 years;
Ellen Hood died Selby 27 July 1855, aged 23 years.
Regarding Parish Churchyards, it would seem even when closed, if one parent was buried in the churchyard, the spouse and unmarried adult children could be buried there too.
List of places checked for GEORGE HOOD (I'll add a list of the private General Cemetery Companies checked in Yorkshire when I receive an outstanding reply).
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742806.234
Thank you, Mark
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Hello All
Of possible interest to family history researchers from TNA, Kew £0.00 (free) to download (takes about half an hour and 405Mb Pdf ), if the father might be in the Navy?
Some quick scribble notes of HOODS extracted from ADM 142/6 REGISTERS OF WILLS, surname H (see images, as some contain more information, than my notes below).
"No." given is the number in Ledger on that Pdf page number, (separate column for any Ship Number)
Pdf p.7
No. 58 Alex’r Hood, Ship last from "Culloden", 17 October 1787, in favour of Ann Hood, Plym Dock, Wife
Pdf p.9
No. 89 John Hood, Ship last from "Inspector", 13 August 1785, London, in favour of John Hood, Father, Witnessed by Wm Blair Weacock [or possibly Wedcock?]
To Pdf p.55 (No. 600) but seem to begin Surname “Ha”.
So fast search to Surnames beginning “Ho” again, but found on …
Pdf p.74
No. 885 Sam’l Hood entered by mistake, Thos Baker 3 Oct 1818, in favour of Wm Baker 17 Napan St, Midd’ex Hospl, Brother
“Ho” from Pdf page 127
Pdf p.131
No. 73 Hugh Hood, Ship last from "Fox", 24 April 1794, Jane Hood, Carrickfergus, Wife
Pdf p.136
No. 163 George Hood, ship last from “Union” present residence Sick Quarters Sheerness 16 September 1795, in whose favour Peter Parker [or Barker? or Birker?] of the Union, Executor “friend” Surgeon and Agent. [Will] Sent to Doctors Commons 24 March 1797 Cresswell. Returned 24 April 1797. “Check issued” 19 May 1797. To “Cashier”
[Note: when this George Hood died, might possibly buried in the Sheerness area?]
No. 165 Jno Hood, ship last from “Apollo” on board, 9 August 1795, Mary Hood, Southwark, Wife, the Captain and Clerk witnessed the Will.
Pdf p.137
No. 177 John Hood, Ship last from Bellerophon, 7th Oct 1796, Jane Hood, Derby, Wife.
No. 179 Joshua Hood, Ship’s Name “Commerce & Marseills” 9 November 1795 John Hood, Moshields, Brother [actually looks like Moshields, (perhaps meant NoShields abb’n., for North Shields?)]
Pdf p.140
No. 223 Richard Hood alias Richard Griffiths, ship last from Hannibal, on board, 28 April 1781, in favour of Sam’l Hood of Portsm’ and Harriott Griffiths of London, Grandfather and Sister
Pdf p.143
No. 287 David Hood, Ship last from “Captain” 26 May 1805, Eliz’th Hood, Cornwall, Wife
Pdf p.144
No. 301 John Hood, Ship last from “Renown” 20 Nov 1800, in favour of Jane Hill, Plymouth, Sister
Pdf p.145
No. 314 Hen’y Henry Hood, Ship last from “Bellona”, Haslar Hos: 23 April 1801, In whose favour Eliz Sergeant, Cha’s Fowler Ex’r, London, Witnessed by Gov: & Agent 23 Dec, Check Issued 1 Jan’y 1803, Ex’r duplicate 4197 by order of A.I. [or A.J.] 3 March 15
[Seems to have reference to an Order referring to a duplicate 4197 of 3 March 1815. This was the year my George Hood of Selby got married?]
Pdf p.147
No. 387 Thos Hood, Ship “Medusa” 12 April 1805, In favour of Eliz Watson of Glassell Kermorr, Mother
[typing ‘Glassell Kermoor’ into a search engine, gives Glassel Post Office, Glassel (AB31), Glassel Aberdeenshire and Glassel Banchory. Also words appear amongst addresses including road names in Lancashire and Chorley, Lancs]
No. 393 Jno Holland, “Agam”[?] 2 October 1805, in favour of Jas HOOD, Portsea, Sister
Pdf p.149
No. 325 John Hood “Defiance”, 12 May 1801, in favour of Fra’s Myers, Residence Defence, Friend, Check issued 11 November 1801 Ex’r
No. 328 John Hood, Ship last from “Defiance” on board, 12 May 1801, Francis Myers on board the Defiance, Seaman, Witnessed by Captain and Master See (325)
Pdf p.156
No. 504
Sam’l Hood
Tho’s Baker “Minden & Griffon” – vid Ba 863 Will in Case H/5126 24 November 1811
[any reference to Case (later in 1940) was usually a reference to an Admiralty Volume number]
Pdf p.159
No. 545 Thomas Hood, “Intrepid”, on board, 23 December 1853 [reference to £5 and several names, some on board] Sister Caroline [other notes after]
Pdf p.160
No. 548 William Hood, Dke of Wellington, on board, 2 March 1835, Mary Hood, 42 Granby St, Devonport, Sole Wife & Ex’r, 9 April 1835, Ex’r JI, Case 533/1865
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Hello Goughy, dobfarm, Bumblebee and All
Been looking at HOOD Gateshead Baptisms around the time of this George Hood 1786 Gateshead Baptism:-
... Geo S. of John Hood
Three Hood Baptisms at Gateshead apparently, are:-
http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php?q=1&cookiecheck=1
Gateshead 1786 George Hood [matches our George Hood's age at his 1815 marriage]
Gateshead 1792 Sarah Hood, possible marriages 1811 Chester Le Street, or 8 May 1814 Marr at Newcastle to Thomas Gibson.
Gateshead 1805 Eliza Hood, possible marriage 1826 Newcastle?
Gateshead 1810 Thomas Hood
(Also found Eliza Hood, Ryton, Durham, baptism, 13 March 1805, but Durham is some distance South of Gateshead)
If the Gateshead 1786 Baptism is our George Hood and the 1792 ; 1805 and 1810 baptisms had the same father and were his siblings, it should give us sideways relatives to George Hood of Selby later, to try and match up?
EDIT: Sarah's baptism 1792 & Rebecca Hood's 1st Oct 1810 burial give her age as 23, birth about 1787 and both were daughters of Francis Hood.
Thanks
Kind regards, Mark
EDIT: There are also Gateshead Burials in:-
1810 for Rebecca Hood, born abt 1787
1821 for Eleanor Hood, born abt 1809
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(Also found Eliza Hood, Ryton, Durham, baptism, 13 March 1805, but Durham is some distance South of Gateshead)
Ryton is about 10 miles West of Gateshead (used to be in County Durham but now Tyne and Wear (used to work in the Gateshead area)
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Thanks Goughy
Suggestion in my previous post is not going to work ...
Because 1792 Gateshead Baptism of Sarah Hood ...
Images 140 & 789:-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XCQ9-Y8H?mode=g&i=91&owc=collection%2F1309819%2Fwaypoints&wc=9K5S-PTL%3A13618101%2C24866801%2C24866802%3Fcc%3D1309819&cc=1309819
Says:-
Christenings in Oct'r 1792
7. Sarah, D. of Francis Hood
Not the same father as George Hood Gateshead 1786 baptism
Regards Mark
EDIT: Rebecca Hood's 1st Oct 1810 Gateshead burial age 23, [birth about 1787] and also a daughter of Francis Hood.
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Hello Goughy, Bumblebee and All
If George Hood (marr Selby 1815) is from elsewhere, I think dobfarm, might be onto something for father of George Hood ...
Regarding Geo: S. of John Hood, baptised Gateshead 1786
I have posted a timeline and information on Occupations Captain John Hood ... page 5:-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.msg6033115#msg6033115
We are interested in any link to Richard Gibson at Selby, described as Cooper, Dealer and Chapman, in a notice relating to Gibson's 1807 Bankruptcy. Certificate issued 1810 per London Gazette.
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Mark
These West Yorkshire threads are getting big about burials and ships -Think its time you started a fresh thread on this 1786 baptism of the Gateshead George Hood son of John. On the Durham board.
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Hello All
Thank you very, very much for all your help and attempts.
I think it is time to mark this thread as complete.
I have been stuck with this George Hood of Selby who married at Selby in 1815 since the 1990s!
Despite the IGI being a massive undertaking, burial places was not its main aim. Also many Cemeteries which were once cramped with headstones, on top of each other almost, are now almost green open spaces, with some Registers still tucked away.
If George, who was born circa 1785 to 1787 to dissenting parents, then there may be no surviving baptism record, a lot of the main Hood families were Dissenting and had turned away from the C of E.
I have written to the successors of Edward Parker Esquire / Parker & Weddall, Selby (1846), and awaiting several other replies.
If anyone accidentally comes across the last resting places of six of my Hood ancestors who died at Selby 1845 to 1855, also Sarah Hood, widow in 1879 (besides those at Selby Cemetery, I know about), please PM me.
Thank you.
I send you all my very best wishes, Mark
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There is nothing to suggest George Hood and Sarah Russel themselves who married in Selby 1815 and their children baptized C o E had any religion other than Anglican !, except a couple of their children James and William may have married Quaker spouses changing their own religion to Quakers in much later years.
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Mark
Suggest search for George Hood burial and others in this link
Durham and Northumberland BT's
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1309819?collectionNameFilter=false
I haven't time at the moment
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As John Hood father of Maudlin Hood appear late 1770's in land tax under Mr Turners property and Maudlin married Charles Turner- I'm wondering if any of any Turner baptisms or Spencer of siblings will show grandparents from far places in Selby Dades style parish register1775 to 1800
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Selby Abbey:
Elizabeth Turner, born 6 April, baptised 10 April 1795 - first daughter of Charles Turner of Selby, Blacksmith, son of Thomas Turner of .... Blacksmith by Elizabeth his wife and Morland daughter of John Hood of Selby, Mariner by Elizabeth his wife daughter of John Spencer of Scarborough, Mariner.
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Hi Sue, - Thanks
I've got the two coopers of Wren lane Selby George Hood living in Knottingley land tax 1813 also Richard Gibson living or having possession of properties in Burton Salmon and Wistow 1780 to 1799 and Selby post 1800.
Property owner
Mr Scott-- ( Scott is a surname linked to Newcastle)
Mr Spencer ( Spencer ---"----to Scarborough)
Mr Turner (Turner ????? & Selby)
Mr Wilkinson ------------------------------ ? Knottingley
Richard Gibson - Himself and Tennants (Gibson linked to Newcastle)
Tenant
Francis Hood -Knottingley - -Gateshead ?
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http://scs.statementdigital.com/uploads/selby_civic_society/images/Cholera2.jpg
Commonsence reasoning: its likely they carried on using the fever burial ground after 1849
Transporting a TB consumption infected body in 1850 of Richard Hood across country in the year (only months being May 1850) after the 1849 cholera pandemic would be unthinkable by the 1832 established health board
In the 1850's the populous would have been scared stiff of contamination from a TB body or even hearing the name of the consumption
Likely buried in fever graves and maybe with a separate record of these graves
Phthisis - The White Plague used to refer to tuberculosis throughout history
and bodies should have been buried in a day if not within hours after death-doubtful they would have been allowed the transportation of an infected body to travel through other parishes even by train or even to leave Selby parish
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/standard/history/1830_1930/public_health/revision/3/
http://ocp.hul.harvard.edu/contagion/tuberculosis.html
Tuberculosis, also known as “consumption,” “phthisis,” or the “white plague,” was the cause of more deaths in industrialized countries than any other disease during the 19th and early 20th centuries. By the late 19th century, 70 to 90% of the urban populations of Europe and North America were infected with the TB bacillus, and about 80% of those individuals who developed active tuberculosis died of it.
About 40% of working-class deaths in cities were from tuberculosis.
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http://northyorkshirehistory.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/chapter-11-1832-year-of-cholera.html#uds-search-results
The government took speedy action and the Cholera Act was passed in February 1832, granting authority and making funds available for local boards to act effectively. Local boards of health would have the power to enter dwelling-houses, remove nuisances, acquire special burial grounds, provide relief for the sick and cover their expenses.
On 6 March 1832, an order of the Privy Council enabled communities threatened by cholera to set up local boards of health that could be authorised to provide medical care; if the parish vestry refused to grant the board of health the necessary funds, the board could apply to the Privy Council. An order of 20 July 1832 gave boards of health powers of entry to clear nuisances etc, and required the burial of cholera victims within 24 hours of death.
By the spring of 1832, cholera had broken out in Darlington, Hull, Selby and Leeds. The first case was reported in York on 2 June 1832, and was thought to have been brought to the city by crowds coming to the races.
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Quote from Mark's posts
Richard Hood, Grocer, died of Consumption Certified [pulmonary TB], Market Place, Selby 2 May 1850, aged 23 yrs (newspapers 23/ 24 yrs);
Sarah Hood, died of Phthisis, Wren Lane, Selby 22 September 1853, aged 18 years;
Mary Hood, died of Phthisis, Wren Lane, Selby 24 November 1854, aged 34 years;
Ellen Hood, died of Phthisis, Wren Lane, Selby 27 July 1855, aged 23 years.
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Quote from Goughy Reply #174 of 08 November 2015
Hi Mark
I thought it would be useful to just put down James and Sarah's family for "tracking purposes"
Mary Ellen Hood b Selby 1853
Elizabeth Cook Hood b Selby 1854
Adeline Hood b Selby 1855
Sarah Hood b Selby 1856
John Wilkinson Hood b Selby 1858
William Russell Hood b Selby 1861
James Alfred Hood b Sunderland 1863
George Arundel Hood b 1866 Selby
Bernard Pearson Hood b 1870 Scarborough
In the 1871 Census, Mary Ellen Hood is staying with a Dobson family in Bowling, Bradford and is stated as "cousin". The head of household is Thomas Duckworth Dobson b 1829 Wakefield and his wife Mary Ann b 1833 London, Middlesex. Thomas Duckworth Dobson married Mary Ann Bateman in 1855 in Selby.
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Hi All
Going through copious notes made from newspapers and posting the following note (highlighted in bold), in view of Goughy's earlier post referring to an 1871 family Hood of mine with Dobson ...
YORKSHIRE GAZETTE 11th April 1846
City of Ripon
To be Sold by Private Contract,
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LOT 5.
All that COAL YARD, situate on Bondgate Green aforesaid, adjoining Lot 4, together with a COTTAGE and GARDEN behind the same, in the several Occupations of Mr. Dobson and Thos. Hood.
When at the Library next, I'll see if I can trace this Dobson and Thomas Hood in 1841.
Wondering if the Dobson and Thos Hood 1846 link is too early, i.e., had the link which linked my family Hood to Dobson in 1871, occurred before 1846 and therefore Thomas Hood might possibly link to Hood of Selby?
Thanks Mark
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Richard Hood son of son of Leonard & Mary bapt 6 March 1774 Osmotherley (Richard Hood mariner Hull death 1838 circa b 1771 place unknown ? )
Thomas Hood son of Leonard (birth unknown) bapt 6 Nov 1756 ? (Married 1771 Osmotherley ?)
Leonard Hood X Mary ??- ?? marriage unknown
James Hood son of Thomas Osmotherley 1771 Osmotherley
Leonard Hood son of Leonard bapt 17 March 1761 Osmotherley
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Leonard Hood X Barbara Mather married 15 Nov 1749 St Nicholas reg and Nonconf Newcastle Upon tyne
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Robert Atkinson X Martha Hood Married Gateshead 27 July 1828
Mary Jane daughter of Richard and Martha Atkinson 21 July 1829 baptized Gateshead
1841c
Stourbridge in Gateshead
John Hood 70 born not in county
Jane Hood 72 born not in county
Mary Jane Atkinson 12 born in county
Ann Hood 1799 Kingston upon Hull (late of Morton Lincs, reference to Gainsbro [Gainsborough] and she was to be interred at Gainsbrough). Reference to a Mrs Atkinson of The Levells, Lincs., [info for Goughy].
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742805.msg5848997#msg5848997
Reply #106
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Not sure it's relevant so for what it's worth, here's another Leonard Hood, just a few miles from Osmotherley:
William Shaw, Ingleby Arncliffe. dated 30.8.1731, proved 3.3.1736 (f.452)
son Christopher Shaw
William son of Christopher Shaw
2 daughters of my son Christopher
son Ralph Shaw
grandaughter ?...? Hood
grandson Leonard Hood & Elizabeth his wife
wife Jane Shaw
godson Christopher Kilton
god daughter Elizabeth Somers
godson Thomas Bell
wit: Henry Harrison senr, Henry Harrison jun, Mar: Cottrell
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From page 32 "Richard Gibson married 1792 ... " Thread
Reply #282 on: Monday 10 October 16 08:39 BST (UK)
1851 Census Stranton
Village
John Hood, Head, Marr, aged 69, Ag. Lab, Yorkshire, Osmotherly.
Mary Hood, Wife, Marr, aged 61, born Yorkshire, Sands End
From my photocopies of Yorkshire, Hood 1992 IGI Fiche ...
John Hood, baptised Osmotherly 8th December 1781, parents Thomas and Margaret Hood
[Edit. per B.T. / Visitation]
Thomas Hood married Margrett Tyerman 14th January 1777 Osmotherley.
[Edit. per B.T. both of ye Parish by Banns]
Looking at your recent image thank you (Reply 281), Thomas married twice.
A Sandsend on the coast W.N.W. of Whitby.
Regards Mark
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Thanks Jomot, dobfarm and All
The Leonard Hood = Mary ?? Marriage (mentioned by dobfarm on this thread yeaterday) is probably ...
Leonard Hood of Ellerbeck in the Parish of Osmotherley married Mary Farrington in the Parish of Kirklevington - 18th December 1783 Osmotherley
Re this Bell that Jomot has just mentioned and my reference (above) to a Hood = Tyerman marriage, sometime ago (likely on Ancestry as our Library did not have FindMyPast then ...
a submitter? had put on an image of the following Marriage ...
Osmotherley Marriage 24 November 1801
Register page/folio 81
William Bell and Mary Hood both of Ellerbeck in this Parish were
married in this Church by Banns lawfully published this Twenty
fourth Day of November One thousand eight hundred and one,
By me Rich'd Hodgson, Vicar
This Marriage was ) William Bell
solemnized between us) Mary Hood X her mark
In the presence of us Benjamin Tyerman
Christopher Hood
Likely the Bell - Hood link.
Regarding Benjamin Tyerman being a Witness (above) to the Marriage, Thomas Hood married Margaret Tyerman both of ye Parish in ye Ch. by Banns 14th January 1777 Osmotherley [image 47].
Regards Mark
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Is this any help?
Hull Advertiser and Exchange Gazette 22nd March 1800.
ABSCONDED FROM HIS MASTER,
ROBERT otherwise THOMAS HOOD, an Apprentice to the Brig FRIENDS, Captain THOMAS SEDMAN, of Burlington, is about 19 years of age, light coloured hair, about five feet one inch high, stout made, ...
left Burlington, Wednesday the 5th March, 1800.
A Will on my list, but not seen
Thomas Hood October 1804 Ingleby Arncliffe, Vol. 148, folio 453.
Thomas Hood October 1832 Ingleby Arncliffe, Court of York, Admin 2.
Osmotherley
11 February 1787 Benjamin Son of Thomas and Margaret Hood.
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XC5S-TN5?wc=9K5Q-FMS%3A13617701%2C13973201%2C13686202%3Fcc%3D1309819&cc=1309819
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Is this any help?
Hull Advertiser and Exchange Gazette 22nd March 1800.
ABSCONDED FROM HIS MASTER,
ROBERT otherwise THOMAS HOOD, an Apprentice to the Brig FRIENDS, Captain THOMAS SEDMAN, of Burlington, is about 19 years of age, light coloured hair, about five feet one inch high, stout made, ...
left Burlington, Wednesday the 5th March, 1800.
Tutherwise George ? 5 foot 1 inch could suggest younger than 19 years old. Would explain alot
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Thanks dobfarm, for the link
Some of these are copies associated with the visitations in the link, so possibly incomplete?
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Newcastle Journal, 12th August 1837
At Sunderland, on the 8th inst. Mr George Hood, master mariner, to Miss Jane Day of South Shields.
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Baines Directory 1823 - Yafforth (near Northallerton)
Gentry
William Hood
Farmers & Yeomen
John Hood
Thimbleby (next village to Osmotherly) ...
The Yorkshire Gazette & in The York Herald, Saturday 11th May 1850
On Wednesday, the 1st inst., at Thimbleby, aged 52, Mary, wife of Mr. George Hood.
Born about 1799.
In 1841 Hoods at Brompton, near Northallerton.
Although later, another George Hood at Northallerton [near Osmotherley] ...
In the Nottinghamshire Guardian of the 8th.
Bedford Times & Bedfordshire Independent, 9th January 1864 ...
On the 31st ult., at the parish church of St. Peter, Huddersfield, by the Rev. W. C. E. Owen, Mr. George Hood, of Northallerton, to Anne Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Collingwood Brierley, Esq., of Huddersfield.
Regards Mark
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Mentioned in the will of Thomas Simpson of Potto in Cleveland dated 21 Feb 1784 & proved 28 Jul 1785:
William Hood of Ingleby Arncliffe & his wife Jane Hood, & daughter Mary Wright
Thomas Hood of Ingleby Arncliffe
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Quote from Goughy Reply #174 of 08 November 2015
Hi Mark
...
In the 1871 Census, Mary Ellen Hood is staying with a Dobson family in Bowling, Bradford and is stated as "cousin". The head of household is Thomas Duckworth Dobson b 1829 Wakefield and his wife Mary Ann b 1833 London, Middlesex. Thomas Duckworth Dobson married Mary Ann Bateman in 1855 in Selby.
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Hi All
...
YORKSHIRE GAZETTE 11th April 1846
City of Ripon
To be Sold by Private Contract,
...
LOT 5.
All that COAL YARD, situate on Bondgate Green aforesaid, adjoining Lot 4, together with a COTTAGE and GARDEN behind the same, in the several Occupations of Mr. Dobson and Thos. Hood.
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EDIT: 1851 Census for Ripon, at Low St.Agnes gate, has ...
Thomas Hood, Head, Widr, aged 73, Labourer, born Yorks, Howgrave.
Hello All
Unsuccessfully, trying to work out (the family connctions of) how Mary Ellen Hood was "Cousin" of Thomas Duckworth Dobson and his wife Mary Ann, nee Bateman?
Thanks Mark
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Mary Ann Bateman in 1851 census is living with her aunt Nancy Wilkinson, so must be connected via Sarah Arundell's adopted Wilkinson family i.e. not via the Hood family
I can't believe it's 15 months since we started this adventure.... although I acknowledge Mark a much much longer time for you
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X95V-QP1
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Hello All
Thanks Goughy & dobfarm for the Bateman information.
Also 1839 Selby Rate Book, George Hood and George Richardson were two of the Occupiers of Batman's Exors, Anchor Inn, Church Hill, Selby
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756955.72
1822 Baines Directory
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Selby/Selby22Dry.html
Anchor, Ann Bateman, Church Hill
Regards, Mark
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Mary Ann Bateman in 1851 census is living with her aunt Nancy Wilkinson, so must be connected via Sarah Arundell's adopted Wilkinson family i.e. not via the Hood family
John Bateman, Sailor married Mary Wilkinson 1805 Selby Abbey. He then re-marries (as a widower) to Jane Wilkinson in York in 1813
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Hi,
I am the 2x great grandson of James Hood and Sarah Arundel, and therefore George Hood is also my 3x Great grandfather. I have also been doing family history since 1992.
Firstly, I do not have the birth of George Hood either, but I may be able to offer my 'tuppence worth' and also what happened to James' children.
In the 1990's I obtained a photocopy concerning the memorials at Selby Abbey which showed that Matt'w Hood buried there was from Wistow and recently I have obtained a copy of 'The History Of The Parishes Of Sherburn And Cawood'; page 285 concerns owners and tenants of land in 1711-12 and states that the Hood's were resident in Wistow since 1379 and was 'of repute'.
https://books.google.com.pa/books?id=G2cuAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb (https://books.google.com.pa/books?id=G2cuAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb)
So what happened to James and Sarah (Arundel)....?
They left Selby and moved to Scarborough, then Durham and then Derby.
James died in 1894 and is buried in Nottingham Road Cemetery Derby
Sarah moved to Mansfield and died there in 1911 in the Quaker Burial Ground - YES SHE WAS A QUAKER.
Also, the 'family story' our branch has always had was that Sarah Arundel was the illegitimate daughter of the Duke of Arundel (the Fitzalan family).
Now their children:
Mary Ellen Hood - Married Arthur Chapman (buried Scarborough) and after his death moved to Doncaster and then died at 20 Beaumont Street, Portland Place Middlesex in 1910
Elizabeth Cook Hood - married John Blanchard Sugars and moved to Scarborough - Died there in 1935
Adeline Hood - Moved to Scarborough and married Thomas Featherstone
Sarah Hood - Moved to Balby and married William Oswin
John Wilkinson Hood - moved to Derby and married. Living at 81 Fowler Street in 1911
William Russell Hood moved to Scarborough and Durham - I don't have a lot on him at present
James Alfred Hood - My great grandfather - moved to Scarborough, Newcastle, joined the Royal Engineers and then moved to Ilkeston, Derbyshire and is buried there 1931
George Arundel Hood - Emigrated to Texas, USA and I am in contact and have visited his descendants in Texas and California
Bernard Pearson Hood - Moved to Scarborough and Durham and then to Derby. he is buried in Nottingham Road Cemetery and died in 1944.
I am living 'down south' now and so the recent discovery of Wistow means that I may have to take a trip up north to look through the original registers!.
Happy to correspond further.
Richard Taylor
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Hi,
I am the 2x great grandson of James Hood and Sarah Arundel, and therefore George Hood is also my 3x Great grandfather. I have also been doing family history since 1992.
Firstly, I do not have the birth of George Hood either, but I may be able to offer my 'tuppence worth' and also what happened to James' children.
In the 1990's I obtained a photocopy concerning the memorials at Selby Abbey which showed that Matt'w Hood buried there was from Wistow and recently I have obtained a copy of 'The History Of The Parishes Of Sherburn And Cawood'; page 285 concerns owners and tenants of land in 1711-12 and states that the Hood's were resident in Wistow since 1379 and was 'of repute'.
https://books.google.com.pa/books?id=G2cuAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb (https://books.google.com.pa/books?id=G2cuAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb)
So what happened to James and Sarah (Arundel)....?
They left Selby and moved to Scarborough, then Durham and then Derby.
James died in 1894 and is buried in Nottingham Road Cemetery Derby
Sarah moved to Mansfield and died there in 1911 in the Quaker Burial Ground - YES SHE WAS A QUAKER.
Also, the 'family story' our branch has always had was that Sarah Arundel was the illegitimate daughter of the Duke of Arundel (the Fitzalan family).
Now their children:
Mary Ellen Hood - Married Arthur Chapman (buried Scarborough) and after his death moved to Doncaster and then died at 20 Beaumont Street, Portland Place Middlesex in 1910
Elizabeth Cook Hood - married John Blanchard Sugars and moved to Scarborough - Died there in 1935
Adeline Hood - Moved to Scarborough and married Thomas Featherstone
Sarah Hood - Moved to Balby and married William Oswin
John Wilkinson Hood - moved to Derby and married. Living at 81 Fowler Street in 1911
William Russell Hood moved to Scarborough and Durham - I don't have a lot on him at present
James Alfred Hood - My great grandfather - moved to Scarborough, Newcastle, joined the Royal Engineers and then moved to Ilkeston, Derbyshire and is buried there 1931
George Arundel Hood - Emigrated to Texas, USA and I am in contact and have visited his descendants in Texas and California
Bernard Pearson Hood - Moved to Scarborough and Durham and then to Derby. he is buried in Nottingham Road Cemetery and died in 1944.
I am living 'down south' now and so the recent discovery of Wistow means that I may have to take a trip up north to look through the original registers!.
Happy to correspond further.
Richard Taylor
Hello Richard
Thank you so much for getting in touch.
Your email (old online request on another forum) no longer seems to work.
James Hood's Inquest was in the Derby newspapers.
Sons William (bapt. 1816); John (my 3 X Gt. Grandfather, bapt. 1819); George (1824) and James Hood (1828) all had offspring. Son Richard Hood (bapt. 1826) and the three daughters Mary-1822; Ellen-1830 and Sarah-1835 all died, without marrying it seems.
Not seen any document about an Arundel nobility connection.
Bit about Matthew Hood, a Surgeon here ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=751453.0
Believe Wm Wheater's 19th Century book re Wistow etc, was partly based upon Storr's writings, in the Yorkshire Archaeological collection. Wheater fails to make a link, to our later Hoods at Selby.
Confirming previous descent of George Hood (married Selby 1815), is a bit of a mystery. A Gateshead Baptism 1st October 1786 was one suggestion, but the baptism entry lacks detail and the 1841 Census suggests Yorkshire as George Hood's birthplace.
My Father (over 80) says that we Hoods are of Scottish descent somewhere along the line. Also that on our Hood line, all went to Public or Grammar School, or were privately educated (except my Father and I).
Regards Mark
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1861 Census, Ousegate, Selby
Mary Wilkinson, Head, Mar, Proprietor of Houses.
James Hood, Son in Law, Mar, General Agent
Sarah Hood, Daur, Marr.
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1871 Census, Scarborough
James Hood, Head, Mar, Tallow Chandler
Sarah Hood, Wife, Mar.
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Mary Wilkinson, Mother in Law, W. Annuitant.
Census suggests researching into the Wilkinsons, any Will and possibly their property registrations might help re Sarah Hood (nee Arundel)?
Regards Mark
Edit: We have been looking at the middle names of James & Sarah's children here ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=756955.0
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When I visited Texas in '98' the Hood descendants there had no idea that the Hood family was so big as George Arundel Hood who emigrated had changed his name to George Arrington Hood - reason unknown.
It was said that the James Hood's female children lived with one of the grandparents whilst the males lived with the other and my grandad said they had a 'roving commission' - tinkers, my mum says' which is why they travelled so much.
The Arundels a couple of generations further back seemed to be spelt Arundale, which may throw out the 'illegitimate theory', although a lot of the time in the c16/c17 the surname seems to have been determined by the vicar at baptism and how he spelt it.
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Hello Richard and All
Quakers moved to support other Meetings, so that would explain a 'roving commission'. Yes, also spelt Arundale, at Selby.
Selby Church, 15 August 1803, Jane the Wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner, aged 65 was buried.
Selby Church, 4 April 1819, a John Hood aged 82, abode Selby, was buried (no occupation).
Maudland Hood married Charles Turner and her Hood descent is given, when the Turners daughter was baptised Selby in 1795.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=731922.0
George Hood (marr. Selby 1815) could be Son or relation of John Hood, or not?
Do you have any family documents as to why James Hood went to Sunderland or Scarborough, did James Hood have any Hood or family (ancestors) at those places?
Regards Mark
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Without documented evidence to support family history stories passed down the generations - one has to be sceptical of such information till it is proved right or different.
My Granddad thought (and told me ) his ancestry roots were from Leek in Staffordshire on his paternal side and he thought he was born in Bolsover Derbyshire, It turned out he was born Waleswood near Rotherham Yorkshire and his father was born in Temple Balsall in Hampton in Arden parish Warwickshire
All we know about George Hood is he was born in Yorkshire on the 1841c, he died 1845 in Selby Yorkshire and was a Cooper by craft trade or Cooper businessman trader ? or both at marriage 1815 in Selby
As for Sarah Arundel there is quite a lot info about her on this website from scant records known.
Hopes of finding high standards of documented evidence and the hopes of grandeur in family history in this Hood dynasty after years of deep searches of repositories seems to have brought nothing pre 1812
There is no connecting documentation evidence that Mrs Jane Hood wife of John Hood a mariner who was buried 1803 aged 65 in Selby (Born circa 1738) and John Hood buried 1819 aged 82 (born circa 1737 ) in Selby and seemed too old to be George Hood d 1845 aged 60 as parents of this aforesaid George Hood.
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George Hood, doesn't even have a known burial place.
Regards Mark
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George was an ??? of the third kind ! he came (from ???)-he was- he went to ( where ???)
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Has anyone ever managed to check Wistow parish registers for a baptism or burial?
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Hello Richard, here is a list of September 1845 Burial Registers ... we are in no hurry to go to Yorkshire again, until we get a new lead ...
Thanks dobfarm for your baptism comments.
Hello All
Thanks for looking in.
Just a recap on new Parish Registers checked so far (incl previous)
There are no George Hood Burials, (Tanner & Brewer, dying 18th September 1845), in the following microfilmed Parish Burial Registers:-
Appleton le Street
Barlby
Birkin
Brayton
Bubwith
Carlton juxta Snaith (Carlton in Snaith) no 1845 burial. Register note says:- Baptisms A Duty of 3d charged for every Baptism to be paid from the 2d Day of October, 1783. Also 1780 -1789 Baptisms checked.
Cawood
Coxwold
Drax
Dunnington
Elvington
Escrick
Hemingbro’
Kirkby Wharfe
Monk Fryston
Riccall
Rufforth
Ryther
Saxton
Selby
Sherburn in Elmet
Skipwith
Stillingfleet
Thorganby
Wheldrake
Wistow
YORK
St Edward the Confessor, Dringhouses, York
St Michael Le Belfry [also no August 1786 John Hood burial]
St Olave [also no August 1786 John Hood burial]
All Saints North Street
Holy Trinity in Goodramgate
Holy Trinity, Kings Court
Holy Trinity, Micklegate
St Crux
St Cuthbert
St Denys (St Dennis & St George)
St Helen, Stonegate
St Johns Ousebridge End
St Lawrence
St Margarets
St Martins Coney Street
St Martin cum Gregory
St Mary Bishophill Junior
St Mary Bishophill Snr
St Mary Castlegate
St Maurice
St Sampson
END OF CHURCHES prefixed YORK
And following Parish Registers on Fiche
Aldborough (PE 76/11)
Beverley St John, Minster (“St John & St Martin” on fiche)
Beverley St Mary (& St Nicholas on fiche) [Robert Hood age 16, Dog & Duck Lane, 27th August 1845]
Blacktoft
Catwick
Cloughton
Cottingham
Bridlington St Mary Parish
Driffield
Little Driffield
Drypool
Easington Parish
Eastrington
Filey
Flamborough
Foston on the Wolds
Foxholes [noted Joseph Hood of Foxholes, Year 1, buried 6th April 1845]
Hedon
Hessle
Hollym cum Withernsea [William Collinson of Patrington 29 yrs, 4th May 1845]
Holme on the Wolds
Hornsea
Hotham
Howden
Hull Holy Trinity
Hull St James Parish
Hull St Mark in the Groves
Hull St Mary Lowgate Parish PE 185/28 (St Mary in the Town, on fiche)
Hull St Stephen Parish [No 1845 burials per catalogue]
Langtoft with Cottam
Leconfield
Leven
Marfleet St Giles
Middleton on the Wolds
Sewerby [No burials before 1859 per Catalogue]
Scorborough PE 117/7
Sculcoates St Marys
Walkington [Ann Collinson of Hull, age 77, 13 Jan 1848]
Goughy has checked the following:-
he's not in Howden or Snaith
nor is he in Brotherton
Not in Church Fenton
My word Yorkshire is a massive place!! George Hood burial September 1845 still a mystery?
Kind Regards Mark
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Nathanael Hood Anne ?? married in 1732 Brayton Yorkshire (West Riding )
Thanks, I wonder, if there were children, somewhere?
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Kind regards Mark
Images found on FindMyPast last weekend ...
Register Book of the ... Parish Church of Brayton beginning at the 25th of March 1733,
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Baptisms 1733
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Samuel Son of Nathanael Hood of Brayton 16th Dec.r
Page 4th
Baptisms in the Year 1735.
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Page 5th
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Elizabeth Dau'r of Nathanael Hood of Brayton 25th Jan. [January 1736, but Ecclesiastical year 1735]
I wonder now with the new records online, if these two (Samuel or Elizabeth Hood) were buried, or link up to marriages, please?
Regards Mark
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Hi Mark
Two marriages in York
Acaster Malbis 10 August 1752
Samuel Hood to Ann Holgate.
Possible remarriage
York All Saints 5 October 1767 after Banns
Samuel Hood of St Olaves and Ann Walker of this parish.
( doesn't say widower or bachelor)
BURIALS
Thorganby 1 July 1738 Samuel Hood barber surgeon of Selby.
Pontefract 3 July 1746 Samuel Hood parish clerk.
York, St Olave
Samuel Hood of Marygate died 5 Jan. 1795 buried 7 July 1795 buried in the churchyard
Transcription states he died on the 3rd buried 4th, the image is different.
claire
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Hi Mark
Two marriages in York
Acaster Malbis 10 August 1752
Samuel Hood to Ann Holgate.
Possible remarriage
York All Saints 5 October 1767 after Banns
Samuel Hood of St Olaves and Ann Walker of this parish.
( doesn't say widower or bachelor)
BURIALS
Thorganby 1 July 1738 Samuel Hood barber surgeon of Selby.
Pontefract 3 July 1746 Samuel Hood parish clerk.
York, St Olave
Samuel Hood of Marygate died 5 Jan. 1795 buried 7 July 1795 buried in the churchyard
Transcription states he died on the 3rd buried 4th, the image is different.
claire
Hello All
Thanks Claire for this, I have these images (Parish or BT), or notes of the above. Got a massive selection of HOOD Yorkshire notes, photos & images collected now.
MF 822 Borthwick M/film for York - All Saints Pavement
Samuel Hood of Saint Olaves Parish & Ann Walker of this [Parish] were published in this Parish ye 20, 27, & 3d of October 1767 ...
The said Samuel Hood of the Parish of Saint Olaves and Ann Walker of this Parish were married in this church by Banns this fifth Day of October in the Year One Thousand Seven Hundred and sixty seven by me Edward Bracken Rector.
Samuel Hood X his Mark
Ann Walker her O Mark
Thos Saiuiag [?]
Philip Tate
Got the 1795 York St Olave, Samuel Hood of Mary gate, burial image (looks like a BT), sadly no age given.
Walker
Walker, might be interesting, or coincidental?
Mr Schofield (Selby Abbey pictures on Flickr of Matthew Hood, 1717, grave) seemed to be linking his Robsons and Robinsons to Matthew Hood buried Selby 1717, using the book on The History ... of Howden sorry HEMINGBROUGH
https://archive.org/stream/historyantiquiti00burt
But Mr Schofield also photographed a William Walker memorial in the Selby Abbey Floor:- Sacred to the Memory of. William Walker, who departed this life April 5th 1811.
William Walker's 1811 grave, died 5th April, aged 32 at Selby, was also in newspaper obits.
Even if Samuel Hood, baptised Brayton 1733 turns out to be the Samuel Hood marrying Ann Walker at York, I still have no baptism yet, to link to the infamous George Hood.
I'll re-check The History ... of Hemingbrough and see if Walker mentioned.
Regards Mark
EDIT
Re William Walker, the Leeds Mercury 13 April 1811 ... Yesterday se'nnight, after a short illness, Mr Wm. Walker of Selby, a trustee of the Selby Marine Association.
Walker - Marine Association, expect he would have known John Hood of Selby, Mariner.
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I'm so sorry, re my last post.
The book was about The History ... of Hemingbrough, not Howden.
https://archive.org/stream/historyantiquiti00burt
W. A. Walker mentioned and other Walkers. Mentions Byard and Hood, but book is not really a positive ancestry or lineage of any family, back to the early 18th Century Hoods, Selby area?
Regards Mark
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I've been in contact again with Leeds re Selby Quaker burials, that I don't feel the 1845 are online (per email response last March) and asked the nice lady if they could possibly assist with my latest x-mas email enquiry, to check for George Hood.
Quaker Library have said they have no Digest [index] for 1845, also Selby came under the York Monthly Meeting and Leeds have confirmed they have these covering 1845.
TNA, Kew, Ref: RG 6 Society of Friends Quaker records
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13331
Those Quaker records in TNA, Kew (online), are not a complete set, as Quaker burials and events continued after the submission of their Registers, to The Registrar General (GRO), who requested them in the 1830s and later deposited with the Public Record Office (PRO), renamed TNA.
The remainder appear to have been deposited in regional Record Offices and University Special Collections, in England.
Hoping for a response now, as to whether G.H., was buried by the Quakers locally.
Regards Mark
EDIT
Although George Hood was not listed in The Annual Monitor (Quaker Obit's), in George's Will he says that Jonathan Hutchinson was his Friend. Jonathan Hutchinson of Gedney was a known Quaker. One married a Miss Proctor of Selby.
A response from the Hutchinson Museum, also eagerly awaited.
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In regard to Sarah Hood nee Russell (or Russel)1879 death- Death certificate street address number on modern maps of uptodate, that house number is located at very near or at the Quaker meeting house Gowthorpe Selby.
Quaker widow daughter in law was present at Sarah's death (sounds like the daughter in law carried for Sarah in her last few months of life going by her reason for/of death)
Assuming Sarah is likely buried with her late husband died 1845
Think you could probably find answers in these records you talk of.
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In regard to Sarah Hood nee Russell (or Russel)1879 death- Death certificate street address number on modern maps of uptodate, that house number is located at very near or at the Quaker meeting house Gowthorpe Selby.
Quaker widow daughter in law was present at Sarah's death (sounds like the daughter in law carried for Sarah in her last few months of life going by her reason for/of death)
Assuming Sarah is likely buried with her late husband died 1845
Think you could probably find answers in these records you talk of.
Hoping Quaker and those Petre records (Lancs), for Gibson/Hood Tenancy at Selby.
Got a response from Friends of Moorgate Cemetery, (former Rotherham General Cemetery Company) opened 1841. No burial for my George Hood.
Regards Mark
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This is very much one of those 'breaking news stories' ...
Firstly I would like to say a big Thank You to Oliver for searching the records and all who contributed on this thread.
George Hood Burial Notes Found
"The Quaker Custodian ... has managed to identify an entry in the Selby Burial Notes for George Hood which indicates that he was 'not in membership' (i.e. not a Quaker himself) but was buried in the Friends' Burial Ground at Selby as requested."
"The burial note does not contain a lot of detail apart from the date of death (18/09/1845), date of death registered (19/09/1845) name of grave maker (Andrew Turton), date of burial (21/09/1845)."
This is all I have at present and will apply for the Burial Notes.
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Fantastic! At last a resting place has been found for George and in Selby after all!! We now know he was not a Quaker member at his death, so finding his birth and roots continues. Well done.
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That's absolutely brilliant, I'm really happy for you.
Onwards and upwards :) :)
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I've followed all of the related threads for the elusive George, what a great result for you.
It just shows how you must never give up on a search, really, really pleased for you :)
Frank.
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I am very pleased to make the Burial announcement I made earlier!!
I could give you a long story which began a year ago and I gave up, to concentrate on the birth, possible sideways relations instead.
But going away doing more research (building a profile of the people who George was knocking about with, his Business contacts and Tenants religious backgrounds where they were marrying, comments received on Rootschat etc.), seeking secondary advice from Quaker Library HQ, more persistence, another polite email last X-mas - could they check again please if George was buried by the Quakers, then telephoning recently and getting a most helpful Archive Officer on the right day, explaining to her the research done and that Quakers seem a viable and only option left for burial, really does sometimes pay off!
My feeling is that email has burdened down institutions and public authorities (getting 10s of 1000s a month) and it was much better when you wrote a letter with an SAE (not so many people bothered back then), walked to the postbox and snail mailed it and got the reply like I got today.
Thank you very much to all.
Mark
PS, it is wonderful when your record is searchable on a PC though, but this has some way to go yet!
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The ending solved.
Great find Mark and fits Sarah's death place house number in Gowthorpe at or near Quaker burial ground - so no doubt she'll be buried with George and explains why there was no mention of Sarah's burial place in the Selby newspaper (as not stating Sarah was buried outside Selby town, as it did with other burials stating place of out of town burials)
Quakers seem to come into George and Sarah Hood's (Russel) family picture in mid to late life with daughter in laws beliefs.
The beginning. ? Hood mariners ? That route has been well researched
near hard facts
Brewery and cooper trade as one Wren lane- ( Could link to Hood landlord/publican/innkeeper/brewer) and a George Hood baptism 1786 dad John Hood . (an near exact year to fit known info on George) with no after life or burial infant or adult or marriage for this George bapt 1786.
Was George brought up in brewing or selling booze environment.
Need to do some deeper research on John Hood the innkeeper Gatehead or innkeeper come mariner/boatman/pack boat waterman (Innkeepers who do move around the country) AH Well ! :-\
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I am very pleased to make the Burial announcement I made earlier!!
I could give you a long story which began a year ago and I gave up, to concentrate on the birth, possible sideways relations instead.
But going away doing more research (building a profile of the people who George was knocking about with, his Business contacts and Tenants religious backgrounds where they were marrying, comments received on Rootschat etc.), seeking secondary advice from Quaker Library HQ, more persistence, another polite email last X-mas - could they check again please if George was buried by the Quakers, then telephoning recently and getting a most helpful Archive Officer on the right day, explaining to her the research done and that Quakers seem a viable and only option left for burial, really does sometimes pay off!
My feeling is that email has burdened down institutions and public authorities (getting 10s of 1000s a month) and it was much better when you wrote a letter with an SAE (not so many people bothered back then), walked to the postbox and snail mailed it and got the reply like I got today.
Thank you very much to all.
Mark
PS, it is wonderful when your record is searchable on a PC though, but this has some way to go yet!
Its possible George Hood parents were Quakers, George brought up Quaker but followed the Anglican religion belief in adulthood himself or change to follow Sarah Russel's faith C o E at and after marriage.
A more persistent relook at Quaker births 1784- 1788
Early Quaker births were not always recorded in a special ledger book of births but more a less notes of an event of the birth in notes of friends meeting occasions at the meeting house.
Its also possible only one of George's parents was a Quaker, most likely the mother a Quaker and George record birth in Quaker notes but later followed the fathers religion being Anglican but was not baptised as mothers wishes or her beliefs.
If which would seem most likely the other missing burials of George's children and Sarah his wife are buried in Selby burial ground there could be more detailed notes of any connections to George's Quaker parents - if any. ie;- example - (George's mother) Mrs ??? Hood of Scarborough friends meeting house. (George's dad of Anglican belief) (or visa versa)
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A more persistent relook at Quaker births 1784- 1788
Early Quaker births were not always recorded in a special ledger book of births but more a less notes of an event of the birth in notes of friends meeting occasions at the meeting house.
Precisely.
The online records of Quakers (mainly RG 6 Series TNA, Kew), seem to be mainly Registers.
Apparently, the Quakers seemed to have some delay in handing them over I have discovered, when they were requested by the Registrar General in the 1830s.
It does seem that some Birth, Marriage and Burial events are recorded as "Notes" amongst the Monthly, Quarterly or Yearly Quaker Meetings and Meeting Minutes.
The University holding the records in respect of William Hood of Selby who was the Firstborn Son of George Hood have already read over the telephone details of his Quaker burial and that there was nothing that could assist with tracing my family lineage.
I actually thought the Quakers were very thorough in their records, but in the case of the Hoods of Selby so far, for some odd reason the Quakers were not.
I've had a gut feeling for some months, that George Hood was trying to hide a past (perhaps even one of privilege and/or illegitimacy) and consider the poor (being Elected Overseer of the Poor in 1838), as well as local business people.
Regards Mark
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Some of the Wills that I have read people often left bequests to "the poor of the parish" - if this was something close to GH's personal life he may have possibly done this. I am inclined to think there was something he had to hide in his past - possibly illegitimacy. Just not sure :-\
PS: In regards to the first sentence - not saying your ancestors were misers or anything ;)
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No Charity mentioned.
Regards Mark
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When I visited Texas in '98' the Hood descendants there had no idea that the Hood family was so big as George Arundel Hood who emigrated had changed his name to George Arrington Hood - reason unknown.
It was said that the James Hood's female children lived with one of the grandparents whilst the males lived with the other and my grandad said they had a 'roving commission' - tinkers, my mum says' which is why they travelled so much.
The Arundels a couple of generations further back seemed to be spelt Arundale, which may throw out the 'illegitimate theory', although a lot of the time in the c16/c17 the surname seems to have been determined by the vicar at baptism and how he spelt it.
Hello Richard
It was always my understanding that George Arundel Hood born Selby in the County of York, England, Great Britain, was buried as George Arundel Hood? No knowledge of Arrington.
If the Arringtons are linking to the wrong family in their tree? Then the Arringtons wouldn't know how big the Hood of Selby, Yorkshire, Great Britain, family had become.
Regards Mark
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Now Mark you have found and know where George Hood was buried 21 Sept 1845 in the old Quaker burial ground Selby. I think to it would be appropriate to stick to Rootchats quid lines now your original request has been found to make this thread COMPLETED or close it owing to its length.
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This is very much one of those 'breaking news stories' ...
Firstly I would like to say a big Thank You to Oliver for searching the records, Helen of Leeds University Special Collections and all who contributed on this thread.
George Hood Burial Notes Found
"The Quaker Custodian ... has managed to identify an entry in the Selby Burial Notes for George Hood which indicates that he was 'not in membership' (i.e. not a Quaker himself) but was buried in the Friends' Burial Ground at Selby as requested."
"The burial note does not contain a lot of detail apart from the date of death (18/09/1845), date of death registered (19/09/1845) name of grave maker (Andrew Turton), date of burial (21/09/1845)."
This is all I have at present and will apply for the Burial Notes.
Thank You All
Kind regards Mark
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Hi Mark,
Fantastic news on finding George's burial after so long - persistence certainly does pay off.
Concerning the Texas Hood's, When George Arundel Hood emigrated he started calling himself George Arrington Hood for some reason.... perhaps Arrington will surface again a generation or so further back :-0.
If you don't mind, perhaps you could let me know how to apply for the burial records so I can add it to my Hood files?
Well done again.
Richard
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This is very much one of those 'breaking news stories' ...
Firstly I would like to say a big Thank You to Oliver for searching the records, Helen of Leeds University Special Collections and all who contributed on this thread.
George Hood Burial Notes Found
"The Quaker Custodian ... has managed to identify an entry in the Selby Burial Notes for George Hood which indicates that he was 'not in membership' (i.e. not a Quaker himself) but was buried in the Friends' Burial Ground at Selby as requested."
"The burial note does not contain a lot of detail apart from the date of death (18/09/1845), date of death registered (19/09/1845) name of grave maker (Andrew Turton), date of burial (21/09/1845)."
This is all I have at present and will apply for the Burial Notes.
Thank You All
Kind regards Mark
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Nothing new but could bring in the parameters
From an informant
We know George Hood was aged 60 by 1845 at death = Born between 19th Sept 1784 to 18th Sept 1785
From George himself
We know George Hood was aged 28 on the 18th July 1815 born sometime between 19th July 1786 to 19th July 1787 ( George could have been aged 29 after 19th July 1815)
George Hood baptised 1st Oct 1786 Gateshead
Baptisms normally a few months after birth.
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Nettleham ?
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The Article 1809, Linc's just 23 years after George Hood bapt 1786 Gateshead and just before the George Hood (died 1845 Selby) turns up in Selby as a cooper 1812
George Hood br 1786 and (age) 23 years later news article 1809 just before the Cooper, George Hood d John Hood in Gateshead father of above George Hoood bapt 1786 with only that baptism (no other sibling before or after baptized) if its the same John ? seems to suddenly pop up as a publican at the Ship inn after a short period span and then disappears while other innkeeper/publicans seem to span a number of years either at one public house or a few. If its the same John then being a publican could mean he was like a temp manager (Journeyman Publican) on the move around pubs/inns regional or national.
The Lincoln, Rutland and Stamford Mercury (Stamford, England), Friday, December 08, 1809; Issue 4107. page 4 of 4
Sale by auction farming stuff at premises of Mr Hood publican of Redborne (Redboure) Linc's
Reply #101
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742806.msg5920254#msg5920254
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Thank you dobfarm and the 'Informant'
I can see that Lincoln newspaper dated 8th December 1809.
(Also in Lincoln, Rutland, and Stamford Mercury ... 17th November 1809)
At Mr. Hood's, innkeeper, at Redborne, on Saturday the Sixteenth day of December next ...
Have found a Red Lion Inn, Redbourne, so far.
Thank you, Mark
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In some ways- standing to look back view, a stand in or journeyman publican is a logical option to why there was only one sibling baptism child in Gateshead of this John Hood and why we can't link the said John Hood of the Ship inn to the local Hoods of Gateshead.
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By the way:
The informant is the person who registered George Hood death 1845 aged 60 (2nd hand info) but where his age given 28 at marriage 1815 was from the prime source itself:- George Hood himself !! and must be help as the more accurate age .
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Looking for Hood's name.
Pubs and Inns in Bourn, Lincolnshire, so far ...
1800 to 1810
Red Lion, Bourn - (John Watmuff 1794 & British Universal Directory Watmuff John, 1791)
Bull Inn, Bourn - July 1809 Turnpike to Let ... at the house of John Thorp, the Bull Inn, in Bourn.
Nag's Head Inn, Bourn - To be Sold ... September 1802 in the Tenure of Mr John Cropper.
Nag's Head Inn, Bourn - 1806 Nag's Head, Bourn, For Sale, in the occupation of William Banks.
Nag's Head Inn, Bourn - Feb 1814 William Banks late of the Nag's Head Inn, Bourn, has entered the Five Bells Inn, Falkingham.
Angel Inn, Bourn - October 1810, Of twin sons, the wife of Mr Bott, of the Angel inn, Bourn.
Thomas Shipley of Bourn, Victualler and Grazier, August 1814.
Oh heck, its Redborne / Redbourne we are after!
The above might help someone else!
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Useful starting info Rebourne
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/Redbourne/
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Thanks dobfarm
I went off on a tangent there! The pubs on the link start 1842.
Red Lion, in Redbourne, was the House of Widow Whitehead, in a Notice dated 25 July 1805.
Possibly the same Whitehead in the Stamford Mercury, 17 October 1806
A few days ago died at Redbourn, near Spittal, in this county, after a short illness, Mrs. Whitehead, widow, aged 37.
Stamford Mercury, 21st January 1814
North Kelsey Inclosure and Drainage.
... that we shall hold our next MEETING at the house of PETER HOOD, in REDBOURNE, in the said county of Lincoln, on MONDAY the Thirty-first day of January instant ...
Looks like Peter Hood, I'll check full name.
Thanks, this isn't a too away from the Cockins of Luddington, is it?
Regards Mark
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Another report in the newspaper in 1814 in the Stamford Mercury titled The North Kelsey Inclosure & Drainage mentions the meeting was to be held at the home of PETER HOOD in Redbourne.
Peter Hood is the landlord of the Red Lion - found another article regarding this that names the Inn too
EDIT: dated 4 March 1814
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Peter Hood married Mary Morgan 8 June 1797 Redbourne
Both signed
Witnesses: W Whitehead, C Blessett and Thomas Sherlock
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Thanks dobfarm
I went off on a tangent there! The pubs on the link start 1842.
Red Lion, in Redbourne, was the House of Widow Whitehead, in a Notice dated 25 July 1805.
Possibly the same Whitehead in the Stamford Mercury, 17 October 1806
A few days ago died at Redbourn, near Spittal, in this county, after a short illness, Mrs. Whitehead, widow, aged 37.
Stamford Mercury, 21st January 1814
North Kelsey Inclosure and Drainage.
... that we shall hold our next MEETING at the house of PETER HOOD, in REDBOURNE, in the said county of Lincoln, on MONDAY the Thirty-first day of January instant ...
Looks like Peter Hood, I'll check full name.
Thanks, this isn't a too away from the Cockins of Luddington, is it?
Regards Mark
Hi Claire
Thanks, look like you just beat me to it.
Regards Mark
I've got Bainbridge Hood of Beverley a Licensee (assigning his property) and dobfarm found the Hoods at Hessle, with brewing and pub premises, previously, plus we've got Wells Hood and Richard Hood, Wine and Spirit Merchant and other Hood/s, cnnected to brewing/drink.
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Looks like Peter Hood died in 1825 in Surrey, described as the Agent to his ?? Duke of St Albans in his Will.
Dukes of St Albans ( the Beauclerk family) mentioned in the church history of Redbourne.
Left all monies and property to his wife
Burial at St Pancras 11 January 1825 of Gattan Surrey, aged 64 years, buried at the new church.
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Thanks Claire
Stamford Mercury, 11 November 1825 ...
On Wednesday the 2d inst., at Christ's Church, Mr Joseph Walker, farmer, of Waddingham, to Elizabeth second daughter of Mr. S. Gregory, of the Red Lion Inn, Redbourn.
Regards Mark
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Change of tact. 'Barton'
Edward Barton wheel wright Granddad or Gt Granddad of Sarah Russell (Russel)
John Hood X Ann Barton married 24 Oct 1786
Trottiscliffe, Kent, England
Its always been sketchy over who John Hood married after Elizabeth Hood died 1775 (Nee Spencer former widow Leppington)
Could this John Hood (Visits London as sailor/mariner) have married a 2nd wife in between above Elizabeth 1775 and 3rd wife Jane Hood burial 1803 Selby.
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or another John Hood who married Ann Barton in Kent. (say John Hood the publican of the ship inn Gateshead or a John Hood mainer father of Geo Hood 1786 bapt)
John Hood father Geo Hood bapt 1786 Gateshead
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George Hood visits his relative Barton's in Selby meets Sarah Russel through her Barton relatives
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Twas Edward BURTON He was born in Selby 1744 son of Thomas Burton, Silk Weaver. Somewhere in dim and distant when I looked into the Burton family, think Edward was married 3 times and died in 1809 Wood Dealer.
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Hi Goughy
I was going by 2nd Reply #1 post down in link
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742805.msg5804256#msg5804256
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Hopefully the Will of Thomas Gouldsbrough may show a link to the Hood boys, however, I have been trying to see if I can find any other links that would tie-in Thomas's wife (widow Mary Russell) being Sarah's mother. Also thought might be useful to have a look at the "Burton family". I appreciate Mark this will not give you any direct info re George Hood but going "outwards" as well as "up and down" ancestral lines sometimes brings a snippet of unexpected info. Here's the Burton family (thank goodness for Dade records)
Edward Burton wheelwright 1744 - 1809 son of Thomas Burton (Rope Maker) and Jane
Marries Ann Blanshard 12 Sept 1769 (Ann dies April 1770) cannot see any child
Marries Sarah Silverwood 9 Dec 1771 - buried 13 May 1776
- child Mary Burton 1772 (marries William Russell - mother of Sarah Russell (m G Hood)
Marries Mary Astley 3 Oct 1780
- children
Thomas Burton born 1775 died 1789
Sarah born 1781 died 1790
William born 1784 married Martha Russell (dau of Benjamin Russell)
Edward born 1786 died 1787
Edward born 1789 died 1824 married Frances Nappy 1813
Thomas born 1791 died 1792
Christopher born 1793 joined Royal Navy as SAILMAKER in 1815 (1851 living in Devon)
Thomas born 1795
Sarah born 1800
Sorry dobfarm
I had an idea, I might be the culprit for Barton.
When I got the photocopies from the Borthwick it looked like an "a" being almost joined at the top, but according to Goughy was a 'u'.
Goughy's quote is from another Hood related thread.
Sarah Hood (nee Russell) Wren Lane, Selby, was a Straw Hat Manufacturer and something I did notice dobfarm, was your reference to Jane Russel, Woodhouse Lane, Leeds, also a Straw Hat Mfr.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=744970.msg6022105#msg6022105
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Leeds/Leeds22Dry.html
Perhaps just a coincidence, same surname, same occupation?
Regards Mark
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They didn't have FBI witness protection new beginnings plan those days- did they. ie: George. ;D
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:D :D :D
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George 'Teflon' Hood, can't stick any relationship to him.
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Lord Petre
I don't know what its about, but according to a snippet (end of lines missing due to binding) in the Yorkshire Gazette 9th April 1836 (also Caledonian Mercury, 14 April 1836).
THE HONBLE. EDWARD PETRE, FORMERLY M. P. for
York, Jno. Eden, Spalding, son-in-law of Lord Brougham, the
Honble. Charles Gore, Lord Edward Thynne, and seven other
persons of rank were severally outlawed by proclamation at the
Clerkenwell Sessions on Monday morning.
Noticed it, because it was on the same page as the Selby Bible Soc. Branch, with Petre and the first line, in large lettering.
In one of George Hood's (Petre and Others to Hood) 1836 property registrations it calls him the Honourable Edward Robert Petre of Stapleton Park in the County of York, but now of Brussels.
Regards Mark
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Working on the RC religion, Carlton St Mary chapel could or would come under RC records not Snaith C of E Parish. George 1845 & Sarah 1879 burials could be in Carlton graveyard RC burial (Did not need to be related to Hood's living in Carlton or if none lived there-George just buried there full stop) ground if George Hood took up R C religion in his later life through his association with the Petre family. Anyway checking Carlton RC St Mary graveyard or cemetery for a headstone of George & Sarah Hood is a good idea if only for elimination.
George Hood origins could be C of E or any religion before coming to Selby. IE - Glasgow Hood coopers which I'm working on at the moment - George son of Robert Hood & Margaret Porter bapt 19 February 1788 Scotland.
I'm looking to see if R Gibson put an advert for a skilled Cooper from 1804 to 1812 for his wanted cooper in Scottish newspapers or Irish newspapers as the high immigration of Irish workers around early 1800's to Glasgow and Selby
That word Cooper is of high meaning of George's early Selby origins on all his early documents/trade directories, than random Hood names in Yorkshire also the 1841c is renowned for being wrong on birth county. R Gibson did advertise once for a cooper and could have again in later years 1800 to 1812
Since we found out George was buried a none Quaker and members of his family in Quaker burial ground also your dad and granny said they believed George was of Scottish origins, also there seem to be a Hood family history of generations of Hood's in the cooper trade in Glasgow and some were members of the freemasons.
Maybe there's a Quaker birth of George Hood in Glasgow.
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https://www.glasgowquakers.org/news/were-your-ancestors-quakers-in-scotland-resources-for-tracing-your-family-history
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I went to St Mary's RC Church today to look at the grave Dobfarm spotted from the bus. It is Canon Best's grave and he was re-buried in 1913 having been in Selby Abbey. He is the only one buried in the grounds. The Housekeeper at the Presbytery was in the garden. She invited me in to look at the Registers for St Mary's and Carlton (in exchange for the name and telephone number of my hairdresser!).
There is no George Hood burial entered in 1845 in the Selby or Carlton Register. I also had a look at baptisms back to 1780 and could not see an entry for "our George".
I'm not too hopeful with the withheld records, unless Jane never married John Hood of Selby (a Wife by "habit and Repute").
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I went to St Mary's RC Church today to look at the grave Dobfarm spotted from the bus. It is Canon Best's grave and he was re-buried in 1913 having been in Selby Abbey. He is the only one buried in the grounds. The Housekeeper at the Presbytery was in the garden. She invited me in to look at the Registers for St Mary's and Carlton (in exchange for the name and telephone number of my hairdresser!).
There is no George Hood burial entered in 1845 in the Selby or Carlton Register. I also had a look at baptisms back to 1780 and could not see an entry for "our George".
I'm not too hopeful with the withheld records, unless Jane never married John Hood of Selby (a Wife by "habit and Repute").
I wonder if there are grave owners in the grave book at the Selby Abbey with an address or Jane Hood buried 1803 with another deceased in a grave with another surname or Hood sister/brother in law surname who was related.
Its just possible Jane was George's mother if say George born 1783 and say Jane death age was more nearer 64 (death age are not that accurate them days)- had Greorge at 43 to 44 years old (my mum was 42 (get nearer 43) when she had me)
(dad always said he was under the influence on the family holiday at Bridlington when I was conceived 9 month before - ;D ;D)
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I went to St Mary's RC Church today to look at the grave Dobfarm spotted from the bus. It is Canon Best's grave and he was re-buried in 1913 having been in Selby Abbey. He is the only one buried in the grounds. The Housekeeper at the Presbytery was in the garden. She invited me in to look at the Registers for St Mary's and Carlton (in exchange for the name and telephone number of my hairdresser!).
There is no George Hood burial entered in 1845 in the Selby or Carlton Register. I also had a look at baptisms back to 1780 and could not see an entry for "our George".
I'm not too hopeful with the withheld records, unless Jane never married John Hood of Selby (a Wife by "habit and Repute").
I wonder if there are grave owners in the grave book at the Selby Abbey with an address or Jane Hood buried 1803 with another deceased in a grave with another surname or Hood sister/brother in law surname who was related.
Its just possible Jane was George's mother if say George born 1783 and say Jane death age was more nearer 64 (death age are not that accurate them days)- had Greorge at 43 to 44 years old (my mum was 42 (get nearer 43) when she had me)
Hi
Very good point dobfarm, thank you - re possible purchase of Freehold Graves in Parish / Diocese records.
The "Reserved Plot" purchased by the RAF in the Parish churchyard in Hampshire, was known as a "Faculty" according to a Deed copy I have.
We'll widen the search.
Mark
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"Unsuccessfully, trying to work out (the family connctions of) how Mary Ellen Hood was "Cousin" of Thomas Duckworth Dobson and his wife Mary Ann, nee Bateman?"
Mary Ann Bateman in 1851 census is living with her aunt Nancy Wilkinson, so must be connected via Sarah Arundell's adopted Wilkinson family i.e. not via the Hood family
John Bateman, Sailor married Mary Wilkinson 1805 Selby Abbey. He then re-marries (as a widower) to Jane Wilkinson in York in 1813
From the Quaker Book by Edw. Milligan ...
Jonathan Hutchinson (1797 - 1872) Flax Merchant born Gedney [went to his Uncles Thos and Wm Procter at Selby].
He married in 1825 Elizabeth Massey (1803 - 1869), daughter of William Massey (1763 - 1846) of Spalding, land owner, and his second wife, Sarah Massey (born BATEMAN, 1765? - 1854).
John Hutchinson (1794 - 1875), grazier, Married Elizabeth Hutchinson (born BATEMAN, 1800 - 1884).
I wonder if the Batemans in the quotes, are linked to the Batemans, who married those Quakers?
Mark
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I don't think there is a link, not that I've found yet.
John Bateman who married Jane & Mary Wilkinson was the son of Clement Bateman** & Mary Reason who married in Kent, and settled in London. Can't readily see John's baptism but he did have siblings.
Sarah Bateman's record of birth in 1766 is in the Quaker records - born in Chatteris Cambridgeshire to John Bateman & Mary Camps.
** Clement Bateman a Tailor of London was named as his father in the baptism of John's first child in the Selby PR's.
But I can't find a baptism for Clement. :-\
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Hello
Thanks Claire.
That is interesting that you came across a CAMPS, there are three CAMP in the Will of Roger Hood of Selby 1727/28 (My Will photos are from the Will in the Howard-Vyse Collection of Langton Hall).
Added:
Langton Hall was previously held by the Norcliffe Family
"The Hesketh family is also worth noting. 1) Lt.Col. Fairfax Norcliffe married Mary Hesketh. 2) The first Richard Howard-Vyse, of Stoke Place (near Wexham), married Frances Hesketh. The next generation, Edward Howard-Vyse, married Mary Norcliffe which resulted in the Howard-Vyses eventually owning Langton Hall. The Heskeths, Norcliffes and Howard-Vyses illustrate a clear "cross-pollination" of families situated at Langton and Wexham/Stoke Poges."
http://home.worldonline.co.za/~townshend/langtonconnection.htm
The Wife of Richard Hood of Stamford Bridge (born Leven), was Caroline Helen Abel, born Castle Howard. These Hoods are linked with the Wesleyan Methodists and Richard Hood's Will refer to the Trustees of any Wesleyan Methodist Chapel in England.
See also Wm Hood, March 1852 Catwick and reference to the Primitive Methodist Connexion ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=781212.msg6356164#msg6356164
John MUSH mentioned in the Will of Roger Hood of Selby. There was a Presbyterian Minister at Selby called John Mush around this time.
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I paid a search fee (Wakefield which deals with Selby), to see where Roger Hood's Dwelling house went to, but they came up with a reference to a Will, which no longer seems to exist on the York Registry. The reply was very inconclusive, I felt.
We shall have to come up to Yorkshire again soon.
Also wondering if the Presbyterians tried to administer their own Wills, like the Catholics did at Carlton near Selby?
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According to a last Century Will, some of the old family items went to Marshall.
Mark
14th March 1727
Probate of the Will of Roger Hood of Selby
In the name of God Amen I Roger Hood of Selby being weak of Body but of perfect understanding Do make this my last Will and Testament – in manner and form following (Viz.) … I give o’in manner following first I give to my Brother Nathaniel Hood, my Sister Eliz: Middleton & my sister Ann Todd my dwelling house and orchard & appurts thereunto belonging to be equally divided among o’in & Do hereby give and bequeath each of ye above mentioned p’ties an equal share in ye above mentioned house and orchard lyeing or being in Ouzegate I give also to Mr John Mush & Ann Barker liveing in Wren Lane five pounds in Trust for the only use & benefit of my Nephew German Camp to be given to him in such way & proportions as the abovementioned Mr Mush & Ann Barker shall see and think proper to give him I also give to my Nephew German Camp the Bed and Appurts belonging to him standing in the Chamber I also give to my two Neeces Sarah and Mary Camp all the wearing apparrele linnen & wooling belonging to my Late wife Except the Cloak w’ch I give to my sister Middleton. Lastly I appoint my Brother Nathaniel Hood my Sister Middleton & my Sister Todd Exe’trs of this my Last Will & Testam’t. I give o’in all my goods & Chattells debts & Creditts my Legacys debts and funeral Expenses being first discharged In Witness whereof I set my hand & Seal this 14th March 1727/8 Roger Hood. Witness Geo: Hutchinson, Peter Leaper Ann Nutt. [sic].
Roger Hood was buried Selby 18 March 1728.
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Hello Goughy and dobfarm
Regarding 1838, George Hood, George Hood of Selby, Brewer (possibly the same George Hood) and James Collinson appear to own many properties in Ousegate. The document refers to properties built and improved by Samuel Nicholson Innkeeper, a further 9 newly errected properties, eight cottages and 14 other properties in Ousegate Selby and a 4 acre piece of the Outwoods of Selby and 2 pews in the Parish Church.
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In the Registry it would appear properties were transferring to James Collinson and the entry has been Signed and Sealed by George Hood L.S. [apparently meaning Locus Sigilli, the Seal of George Hood] in the presence of Henry Birkinshaw and John Luke Haigh.
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Just added the bit about John Luke Haigh
Summarising the obituary of The Law Society Journal of Jan. 24, 1891, said that Mr. John Luke Haigh, solicitor, of Selby, died on December 5th, at the age of ninety. He was articled to Mr Edward Parker of Selby, and admitted a Solicitor in the Easter Term 1840. Mr Haigh joined the Wesleyan Methodists about sixty years ago, and became an active member of that body and a local preacher. ... He leaves three daughters and two sons. ... He was buried on the 10th ult. at the quiet little churchyard of Brayton, near his residence, ...
So one of the 1838 witnesses to George Hood's Signature and Seal was a Wesleyan Methodist.
Kind regards, Mark
George Hood's Witness in 1838, who was articled and became a Solicitor in 1840, was a Wesleyan Methodist.
Mark
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This John Spencer of Scarborough, Mariner, linked to Maudland Hood.
The Scarborough St Mary's Churchyard M.I. ...
Head Stone -
Sacred/
to the Memory of/
MARY the wife of/
JOHN SPENCER/
who departed this life/
August (?g) 18??/
aged (33 or 83) years.
I should of looked for year of this and an age, in the m/f Registers, whilst at Beverley, because the compiler has not tried to find the Register entry, possibly due to not having the year.
Due to OCR sometimes being poor and too many returns, if I had a year date, I could manually search the Death columns on the BNA.
Also, I got the Will of Catherine Spencer, Wife of Scarborough (from TNA), 1782
... my late Uncle Henry Rowe, late of Bloomsbury Square, London, Esquire ...
... Wife of Robert Spencer of Scarborough in the county of York ...
... Mother in Law Mary Spencer ...
... my Son [?first name?] Paxton Spencer ...
... my Son Hutton Rowe Spencer ...
... my Sister Jane Rowe ...
... my Brother Anthony Rowe ...
... my Husband Robert Spencer ...
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D622184
I should like to find out if she had a residence in Scarborough.
Her children (named in the Will) and the one by whom she was pregnant were left £700 each too! Some of them appear at various places in England as adults, later.
Regards Mark
EDIT: Added a headstone M.I., from Scarborough 18??, is the corresponding Register entry online please? If I had her age confirmed as 83 and a year date, it might be worth me searching the deaths in the BNA manually.
Hello
This may not join the dots up with my George Hood, but might help tie up a Scarborough Mariner HOOD, with others?
Catherine Spencer (Wife) of Scarborough, PCC Will Proved 1782, linked to the ROWE family.
John HOOD, Widower, to Sarah HAMMOND, Widow
Regarding the 17th August 1778 (Bishop of London) Marriage Bond of John Hood of Scarboro' in the County of York Mariner, John Hood's Bondsman was John ROE.
Interesting that the Marriage Bondsman (London Bond) for John Hood, Widower, of Scarborough, Mariner, was recorded as John Roe?
I wonder if ROE and ROWE are the same family?
Mark
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Hi Mark
I'd certainly consider ROE as a corruption of Rowe. I have lots of Cornish Rowe/Row/Roe ancestors in my tree :)
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Hi Claire
Thanks for that.
17th August 1778.
LONDON Diocese
Appeared personally John Hood and made Oath, that he is of Scarboro' in the County of York a Widower and intendeth to marry with Sarah Hammond of the Parish of Saint Giles in The Fields in the County of Middlesex a Widow.
Included Bloomsbury and other places
https://stgilesonline.org/history/
Mark
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As children we used to see a lot of our Grandmother Hood
In the deepest depths of my memory I very vaguely recall and she could of mentioned these places for any reason whatsover ...
Snaith, because as a very young boy I though it was something you should say when you sneezed.
Beverley, because I used to think as a very young boy, that is a girl's name.
Hello
In the next grave, to my John Hood & nee Sarah Richardson (Watchmaker's Daughter) grave spaces, is a J. Hallewell on the Plan (no headstone) and looking in documents, the Hallewell's were related by Marriage to my Watchmaker Richardsons ;D
My John Hood ancestor (with a headstone) was even a witness at the 1850 Beverley marriage and also the marriage further corroborates with my Richardson, Watchmaker line.
Also a link to the place of Beverley mentioned by my late Grandmother, is true. Wondering about other historical stuff mentioned.
Awaiting an 1805 Richardson Will now.
Mark
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Did you ever visit the graveyard at Long Drax where it is said head & flat stone epitaphs from Selby Quaker burial ground were moved to. I'm thinking maybe some older early 19th or late 18th century Hood burials are at Drax or Long Drax ?
George Hood's early life as a child maybe difficult to hunt out ??? but his none existent vocational paper trail history to the high standards required for his various trades of occupational skills for his known years he spent in Selby - is the biggest mystery. ???
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Did you ever visit the graveyard at Long Drax where it is said head & flat stone epitaphs from Selby Quaker burial ground were moved to. I'm thinking maybe some older early 19th or late 18th century Hood burials are at Drax or Long Drax ?
George Hood's early life as a child maybe difficult to hunt out ??? but his none existent vocational paper trail history to the high standards required for his various trades of occupational skills for his known years he spent in Selby - is the biggest mystery. ???
Thanks dobfarm
The Drax Quaker Burial ground location has been ploughed over.
The YAS (Yorks Arch. Soc.) Survey of M.I. for Selby Quaker Burial Ground says ... No Stones. Those Headstones currently at Selby are known to be from Drax Quaker Burials.
Leeds Brotherton Library Spec. Collections have no Selby, Quaker Graves Plan.
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Incredible the HOODs were well known and recorded in a number of types of documents for Selby, but today confirmation of their origin, is proving elusive.
Mark
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One place trades could be learned with little to no public paper trail knowledge of such training is abroad maybe in USA services or other countries forces ???. 1811 (or before) to 1815 was a volatile time for the UK as army and navy rank & file.
https://www.luddites200.org.uk/theLuddites.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
Approx -1811 George appears in Selby from seemingly nowhere with skills by 1815 the time of peace returning ? - 1815 George marries Sarah Russel (Russell) is wife
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Hello dobfarm
Thanks, interesting those comments.
Online books list several Hoods involved in the Jacobean Rebellion around the mid 1740s.
"The Jacobite risings ... was an attempt by Charles Edward Stuart to regain the British throne ... "
The Battle of Prestonpans, Culloden, Bonnie Prince Charlie and marching down the Great North Road in England were all mentioned by my late Grandmother. Bonnie Prince Charlie being Charles Edward Stuart (his short name) died later in exile, in 1788.
However, the Fleur de Lis symbol caused quite a discussion (between Grandmother Hood telling the accounts and my Mum's Father), because Fleur de Lis was contrary to the major landowning Hood of Kirkbridge, Yorks.
Amended: re 1932 Wedding photo, there is a comment here
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=819609.msg6817795#msg6817795
Unfortunately my Dad had lost his Father and Grandfather by the age of 8. One of our Hood relatives tells me that they knew back to John HOOD = Sarah RICHARDSON of Selby [married 1846].
Awaiting a second Richardson Will (my 5 x Gt Grandfather).
Mark
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Regarding the 20th January 1838 property Conveyance Mrs Bridget Nicholson and Others to Mr James Collinson involving a George Hood, also named in the same as George Hood of Selby Brewer. The parties are:-
The Lease made Between
William Bowland late of Rawcliffe in the Parish of Snaith in the County of York Farmer but now of Hollington in the said county of York Labourer
Abraham Hodgson of the town and county of Kingston upon Hull Gentleman and
Hannah Carter Clark of Howden in the said County of York only child and Heiress at Law of John Clark late of Potter Grange in the Township of Armin and County of York Farmer deceased of the one part and
George Hood of Selby in the County of York aforesaid Brewer of the other part and
the Release made Between
Bridget Nicholson of Rawcliffe aforesaid widow of Samuel Nicholson late of the same place Innkeeper deceased of the first part
Samuel Nicholson of Rawcliffe aforesaid the only Son and Heir at Law of the said Samuel Nicholson deceased of the second part
Samuel Smith of Armin Pastures in the said County of York Gentleman and George Smith of Goole in the said county of York Surgeon the sons of George Smith of Armin Pastures aforesaid Farmer of the third part
William Bowland and Abraham Hodgson of the forth part
Hannah Carter Clark of the fifth part
William Mitton late of Selby in the county of york aforesaid but now of Stamford in the County of Lincoln Gentleman of the sixth part
James Collinson of Selby aforesaid Shoemaker of the seventh part
the said George Hood of the eighth part and
Edward Parker of the same place Gentleman of the ninth part ...
property listed and occupiers
Hello
1826 Howden Marriages
John Clark of Snaith, Gentleman married Hannah Carter, Spinster, by Licence, in the presence of John Carter and two other Carter witnesses.
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The above George Hood of Selby, Brewer, is my 4 X Gt. Grandfather.
My 3 X Gt. Grandfather was John Hood of Selby, Tanner, who married Sarah Richardson at Sculcoates in August 1846. Sarah was the Daughter of William Richardson, Watchmaker, who died Selby 1840, (previously of Bubwith at marriage).
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My Richardson Watchmaker family in the 19th Century were also at Howden, Malton and Aire Street, Goole.
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Some of my other closely related Clock and Watch Maker Richardson graves are at Howden, Yorkshire and the Howden Minster M.I. Book has a Thomas Carter, Brewer and Ann Carter grave adjacent, who links back to a John Carter, marriage at Snaith.
The above Ann Carter (buried Howden) was nee Lady Ann Sykes of Cowick, Snaith (married 1837) and I would be surprised if she was not related to Chester Newby's Executor Reuben Sykes and also a Sykes = Newby, marriage.
More detail here
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=820467.msg6828673#msg6828673
Summary
According to my Richardson graves at Howden and the above, it seems my Sarah Hood, nee Richardson's family were also linked to people previously involved with my George Hood, who married Sarah Russell in 1815 at Selby.
Mark
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Hi I’m new to this so bear with me! My great grandmother was Bertha Hood (Brooks by marriage) and my great great grandfather was Bernard Pearson Hood. I’m trying to research my family tree and I came across this chat and group. I currently live in Derby and didn’t realise until today that Bernard P Hood was buried down the road at Nottingham Road Cemetery! Please get in touch if we can help each other . Thanks
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Hello Alison
I am not descended from James Hood baptised Selby, who was also at Bishopwearmouh Sunderland (25th September 1863, when James Alfred Hood was born).
James Hood's Son - Bernard Pearson Hood was born 16 Cross Street, Scarborough, [not clear, Thirt ... ] September 1870, Father - James Hood, Tallow Chandler, Mother - Sarah Hood formerly Arundel.
Another Son of James Hood and Sarah Arundel, carries Russell as a middle name.
I descend from John Hood, Tanner (James Hood's Brother), both their baptisms claim they descend from George Hood, who married Sarah Russell at Selby, 1815.
Mark
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Quote from 2015 (Part 1)
Baptisms at St Benets to William and Ann Hood: (no occupation of father given) Obviously the Comber in the name indicates it's Willam and Ann who married Wakefield. (no occupation given on marriage certificate)
Mary Ann Maw Hood 1784
Dorothy Arbuthnot Hood 1785
William Hood 1786
Harriet Comber Hood 1789
Thomas Eddington Hood 1791
William Comber Hood 1793
Baptisms in St Ann's Blackfriars (no occupation of father)
George Hood 1795
Charles Hood 1810
Goughy
End of quote.
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We have also been able to bring this William Comber Hood family forward a bit and they don't appear to be related.
3rd September 1840 St Nicholas Church, Parish of Brighton
William Coomber Hood, Widower, Gent, Upper Bedford Place London, Father William Hood, Gent.
Married
Harriet Barbara Davis Willard, Spinster, 46 Ship Street Brighton, Father Nicholas Willard, Esquire.
In the Presence of:-
L. K. Willard;
W. C. H. Hood;
[? initials] Willard
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My family's Tax Duty document spanning 1846 to the 1890s (not online) at TNA, Kew, does not mention them.
Although the Duty document does only stick to all the children of George Hood & Sarah Russell of Selby, Yorkshire.
Added:
Also the late Jane Casson Hood, Edwin Hood of Wellington, Belper (Grocer) and Marion Scuam wife of George Scaum of the Railway Hotel, Knottingley.
Mark
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I have bounced this up so that I don't lose it and I have come across a Lionel Robson in business with Hood of Newcastle upon Tyne.
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Tim Schofield said ...
Matthew and Elizabeth Hood
"This stone in the floor of north aisle of Selby Abbey records the burial of two of my ancestors - Matthew Hood (buried 1717) and Elizabeth Hood (buried 1732). Unfortunately the paving stones have been moved, so we no longer know exactly where they were buried. A neighbouring piece with names of more of my direct ancestors is recorded in paper but we can no longer find it. Very many thanks to the vicar who looked up to the records to help us."
https://www.flickr.com/photos/foxtree1/20770860885
It seems his photographs (difficult to read when enlarged) are from:-
Etherley;
Hunwick;
West Auckland and possibly
Evenwood
Robinson & Robson Headstones
Errected to the Memory of
Charles Robinson Late of
Etherley. Who Died August 12: 1816.
Aged 49 years.
Also Pheby Wife of The Above Who
Died June 15: 1837 Aged 66 Years.
And of Hannah Robinson.
Wife of Christopher Robinson of
West Auckland who departed this life
November 17th, 1846, Aged 32 Years. [EDITED 32 Years]
In Memory of Elizabeth Robinson.
Wife of Robert Robinson West Auc
-kland and who Died January 28th
1824 Aged 66 Years
While living, an Effectionate Mother:
Also a Virtuous Wife
Also their 2 Sons and 1 Daughter:
Mary Died January 4th 1792, Aged 5 Years.
Robert Died May 20th 1797 Aged [?] Years [single figure, looking like a 4 or 1?]
William Died March 11-1802 Aged 13 Years
Also of Robert Robinson Husband
of the above Elizabeth Robinson
who Died Feb. 25 1836 [EDITED 1836, not 1856]
Aged 84 Years.
To The
[?] of
John Young Robson
Son of John & Ann Robson
of Hunwick, Farmer
who Died March 21: 1834
Aged 2 Years.
Also William Robson
who died April [9?] 1863
Aged 1 Year & 10 Months.
Also the Above Named
John Robson
Who Died [March? 75?]
Nicholas Robinson
Eye?Wcod[?] [Evenwood]
Who Died December 9th 187[2, 3 , 5?]
Aged 40 [or 49?] Years [possibly 40 years 1872 Auckland Reg’n District]
Also Margaret Ann Daughter of
The Above Who Died March 21 1873
Aged 7 Years.
William Walker of Selby in Abbey Floor
Sacred
to the Memory of
William Walker, who
departed this life April 5th 1811
Aged 52 Years [looks 32, but worn due to foot traffic, Selby transcription has aged 51], of Selby, Baker
Place names in some of his photographs (same trip it seems) are:-
Selby
Howden Minster
Hemingbrough
St Oswald, Hotham
St Helen Auckland
On the Moor North of Stanhope
Corbridge
Apparently St Helen, Auckland
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=303947.msg2560895#msg2560895
Here are the Robson inscriptions :-
To the memory of John Young Robson, son of John and Ann Robson of Hunwick, farmer, who died March/21/1854 aged 2 years.
Also of William Robson, who died April/9/1863 aged 1 year and 10 months.
Also the above named John Robson, who died March/25/1873 aged 45? years.
This next stone was in a bad condition but I will give you what can be read.
Sacred to the memory of Margaret Robson, wife of ?????????
of Wide Hope, ????????????? the 25/1816 ????????????????? wide Hope ?????
1838
Sorry but that is the only lettering left that could be read.
Affectionately in memory of Mary Robson, wife of George Robson of Royal Oak, who died 7/November/1864 aged 71 years.
Also the above George Robson, who died April/2/1879 aged 74 years.
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Some research into William Walker, mentioned by Tim Schofield regarding his Matthew Hood of Selby.
Selby, Yorkshire, in Abbey Floor ...
Sacred to the Memory of William Walker, who departed this life April 5th 1811 Aged 52 Years
1812
Will of William Walker, late of Selby, Baker, deceased ...
Wife Susannah Walker ...
property where I dwell situate in Ouzegate [Ousegate] Selby ...
property situate in New Street Selby
occupied by Widow Middlebrook ...
my Son William Walker, of Cliffe, Miller ...
Late William Walker (Sen'r) died Selby, Yorks, 1811
1782 Whitgift 24th July by Licence
William Walker of the Parish of Thorne Bachelor and
Susannah Mogson [signed Susannah Moxon] of the Parish of Whitgift Spinster.
Present (wits) Thomas Whittaker ; Rich'd Marshall.
1833 Selby, 2nd September
Susannah Walker, 75 yrs
Son of William Walker and Susannah
1783 Thorne, Births & Baptisms
William 1st born Walker, S of William Walker, Baker and Susannah Moxon July the 16th, July the 20th.
1806 Hemingbrough, 7 or 11th November, by Licence
William Walker, of Selby, Miller and a Bachelor
and
Ann Jackson of Cliff in this Parish Spinster
Present (wits) Elizabeth Jackson ; Wm Palmer ; Benj'n Bussey.
1824
Leeds Intelligencer, 17 June
Mr William Walker, of Cliff Mills, having won a Trial which had long been long pending in Chancery, with the Hon. Edward Petre respecting his right to sell meal and flour in Selby, ...
1829 December / January 1830
Bankrupt
Walker Watson and Thomas Yeoman, Jun., of Cliffe cum Lund, Yorkshire, Millers and Corn Factors.
1830
Yorkshire Gazette, 3rd April
Selby Cliff cum Lund and Hemingbrough
Lot 1 ... Occupied by Richard Steels in Hemingbrough
Lot 2 ... Windmill ... Steam Corn Mill built by Mr William Walker, at a very considerable expense ...
Lot 3 In Selby ... called Steam Packet Tavern or Swan now in the occupation of Thomas Taylor, - The business of a Baker has, for many years been carried on ...
Also, two Messuages or Tenements adjoing the Inn in the occupation of Mrs Longthorpe and Mrs Walker.
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1841 Whitgift
Mary Moxon, 70, Ind., Y.
Mary Shaw, 13, Y.
1851 Reedness
Judith H. Bell, Head, Widow, 60, Annuitant, born Derbys St Alkmunds.
William Walker, Visitor, Mar, 67 Retired Miller, Yorks Thorne.
Ann Walker, Visitor, Mar, 63, Housekeeper, born Yorks Cliff.
1861 Cliff cum Lund.
Village of Cliff.
John Butterworth, Head, Mar, 47, Tailor, born Selby.
Mary Butterworth, Wife, Mar, 56, born Cliff.
Ann Walker, Widow, 73, born Cliff.
Mary B. Shaw, Visitor, 33, born Whitgift.
Comments about John Butterworth, married twice (2nd time in 1843 Mary Turton / transcribed Twiton? Looks like Turton), Father Joshua Butterworth.
Joshua Butterworth of Selby, married Elizabeth Cook.
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Moxon, Burton and Sefton, at Selby are Related
1802
Will of William Moxon of Selby
... my Sister Alice Burton the Widow of George Burton late of Selby aforesaid Joiner ... pay unto Thomas Burton of Selby, Joiner ... money for ... William Sefton the Son of Edward Sefton of Selby aforesaid Watchmaker ... until 21 years of age
1778 Selby
Edward Sefton, 28 years, Watchmaker married Ann Burton, Spinster, 19 years.
Ann Burton was the Daughter Thos & Eliz Burton (per descent of Sarah Sefton's Sister Alice Sefton born / bapt June 1793 at Selby.
1815 Selby 25th November, by Banns
William Walker, 23 years
Sarah Sefton, 19 years
Present (wits) Charles Turner ; [?]Henry Sefton.
Added:
Selby 1793 Birth of William Walker, 2nd Son of Thomas Walker, Innkeeper and Elizabeth Smith Daur of ... .
Thomas was the Son of Thomas Walker of Thorne, Labourer by Alice ... See Selby Register for more details.
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1815 Selby 25th November,
William Walker = Sarah Sefton
However, it looks like the husband of
Maudland Hood, Charles Turner, was
present at the marriage.
Once George Hood of Selby had married Sarah Russell (related by marriage to Burton) a couple months previously in 1815, if George Hood was a relative of Maudland Hood, then Charles Turner, her husband would now be a relative of Sarah Sefton by marriage.