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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: sunflower on Saturday 26 March 16 13:28 GMT (UK)
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According to Elizabeth Tomlin's obituary dated 6 April 1937, Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario her maiden name was Elizabeth Marie Markham and she had resided in Hamilton for 45 years (1892)
She was born in London in 1870. Her husband was John Tomlin.
I am looking for a marriage for John Tomlin & Elizabeth Markham also any sign of her in any census or on any passenger list. 5 of her siblings were British Home Children and arrived in Canada in 1886, but Elizabeth wasn't with them
Thanks
Carol
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No luck with a marriage to John Tomlin - what were the names of her 5 siblings?
Are you thinking she married in England?
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Thanks for looking for me
Her siblings were -
John and Charles Markham arrived in Canada together on 19 Apr 1886. MaryAnn, Eliza and Ada departed Liverpool on 20 May 1886 aboard the Sardinian, arriving in Quebec 7 Jun 1886.
I'm not sure where she married. I can't find a John Tomlin with wife Elizabeth in the 1901, 1911 & 1916 census that are on FSearch. Are there any later censuses available for Canada?
Carol
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There is a marriage of a George Lohmann Tomlin age 26 to Pearl Evelyn Stevens on 23 Dec 1920 in Toronto Ontario. His parents are listed as John Tomlin and Eliz Markham. His birthplace is given as Leicester England. FreeBMD has a birth listing in Mar qtr 1895 for a George Lohmann Tomlin which appears to tie in with the info on the marriage record. This would suggest that John and Elizabeth perhaps married in England, assuming that this is the correct couple.
George indicates on the 1921 census that he immigrated in 1904, 1911 census looks like 1909, and I think there is a 1909 passenger listing for him. He was travelling alone, going to his father in Hamilton Ontario (if I remember correctly).
PB
Added: 1921 census has a John and Elizabeth Tomlin, age 50 and 51, b. England, residing in Hamilton Ontario and they give their immigration year as 1907.
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Thanks very much Polarbear
I've found the baptism of George Lohmann Tomlin and his parents were John Tomlin & Clara, so it looks like Elizabeth was his stepmum.
Can I ask who George was living with in 1911 as I can't find him
Carol
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Looks like a daughter Grace Clara... parents John Tomlin and Clara Joy. Married in Hamilton in 1922. Grace Clara born 1897 in England.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKM5-P4ZG
RK
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OK, that explains why his assumed sister Grace gave her mother's name as Clara when she married.
Here is the family I have been looking at in the 1911 census. Click on split view at the top to see the original image.
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=30461&highlight=31&desc=1911+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+George+Tomlin
PB
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Thanks both
I think I've cracked it. There is an Elizabeth Marie Markham who married Frederick Sculthorp in London in 1893. Elizabeth Sculthorp is head of the family in 1911 census and John Tomlin is a lodger with children.
1901 census has Elizabeth & Frederick mis transcribed as Scullkost.
So I am now looking for a marriage of Elizabeth Sculthorp & John Tomlin
Thanks
Carol
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Looks like John Tomlin age 34 travelled to Canada alone, arriving 23 Aug 1907 on the Virginian. He was a Boot Operator going to Hamilton Ontario.
George arrived alone 23 Oct 1909 on the Virginian, going to his father in Hamilton.
Grace and Fred arrived together 08 Apr 1911 on the Mongolian, going to join their father in Hamilton.
I don't see Clara on a passenger list so far nor do I see a death for her in the FreeBMD index during the time John and the children were travelling. No apparent death in Ontario either.
I also don't see a marriage for John and Elizabeth at the moment.
PB
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Thanks both
I think I've cracked it. There is an Elizabeth Marie Markham who married Frederick Sculthorp in London in 1893. Elizabeth Sculthorp is head of the family in 1911 census and John Tomlin is a lodger with children.
1901 census has Elizabeth & Frederick mis transcribed as Scullkost.
So I am now looking for a marriage of Elizabeth Sculthorp & John Tomlin
Where did you find a 1893 marriage for them?
The London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 database at Ancestry has a marriage for Frederick John Alexander Sculthorpe, son of Frederick John Sculthorpe marrying Elizabeth Maria Markham, daughter of John Markham on 13 Nov 1887 in St Thomas, Bethnal Green. The FreeBMD also has a marriage registration which has the two on the same page for the 4th quarter of 1887 in Bethnal Green (vol 1c, page 592).
Jacquie
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Thanks very much PB
It's all beginning to fit together.
I appreciated everyone's help.
Carol
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Hi Jacquie
Yes that is the right marriage. I got the date wrong.
Thanks
Carol
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George served in WW1. Here is a link to his Attestation papers. There are 2 pages here. Library and Archives Canada are in the process of digitizing the entire files so his entire military record will eventually be free to view on line. LAC is currently working through 'H' so it will be a while before 'T' is completed.
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=278188
PB
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Thanks very much. I appreciate your help.
Carol
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Looks like there may be another child....
A Lilian Tomlin age 11 appears to have travelled alone to Canada in 1912, arriving 23 Nov 1912 on the Corsican. She was travelling to Hamilton Ontario to join her father, a shoemaker. She arrived in Halifax and then had to travel by train from there.
Grace and Lilian Tomlin are rooming together in Hamilton in the 1921 census.
PB
Added: Lilian Tomlin daughter of John Tomlin and Clara Joy married Alexander Joncas 26 June 1922 in Hamilton. Grace was one of the witnesses.
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Thanks again that's wonderful. I can't imagine an 11 year old traveling all that way on her own.
Carol
Added - On Elizabeth obituary it mentions Mrs A Joncas