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Title: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: Marianne Isaacs on Sunday 22 May 16 10:54 BST (UK)
Recently while going through an old family album I came across a publicity shot if a very smooth looking man with the most amazing moustache . It was enshrined to my cousin Rose from your cousin Andre Kaya ( louis) London1930. Rose was Rose Rapke my grandmother . Louis is Australian and he became quit a successful tenor . They both lived in Melbourne Australia . I have no idea how Louis is related to Rose as so far as I know her parents Nathan and Pearl Rapke  arrived from Poland in 1889 they were Jewish refugees from the pogroms hitting Poland at that time . There were no other family members so far as I know but I wonder if Louis Luscombe and his family may have also been Jewish refugees and maybe even the reason the family came to Australia . A mystery . Louis certainly looked fascinating though 😊
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 22 May 16 11:31 BST (UK)
Andre Kaya is noted in Welsh newspapers as performing in the area on a number of occasions between 1900 and 1910. he is often described as Polish (and a baritone rather than a tenor)
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 22 May 16 11:35 BST (UK)
This might help as it appears to give his birth name - the town of residence fits with a death for Andre in 1945, showing he was b c1875

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11941906

Added - and this related entry in a list of those seeking naturalisation in the London Gazette shows it is your Andre

Leszczynski, Anton Ludwick (known as Andre Kaya)  Russia; Professional singer and  Teacher of  Singing;  42, Strafford Road, Barnet. 29 March, 1924

And 1911 census entry - gives a place of birth

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWLK-JPR

All may help you make the links
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: Marianne Isaacs on Sunday 22 May 16 13:13 BST (UK)
That certainly does look like my Andre . He came from Karlish which is where the Rapke family came from . Thank you so much for your rapid reply . This is really exciting . I have long wondered about Andre . How would I find out who his  parents were and how they are related to Rose . Roses mother was Pearl Opas .can I find out about his life I wonder ?
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Sunday 22 May 16 20:52 BST (UK)
I can't help you with European questions - not my area - but you could try the Europe board here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/europe/

Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: willsy on Monday 23 May 16 20:13 BST (UK)
There's a piece in Trove with a photo of him

 24 Jun 1899

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hod/

born 1873, came to Australia when he was 13 and gives original surname. He had already had some success in Europe...
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: willsy on Monday 23 May 16 20:27 BST (UK)
There's a sister Bertha Luscombe mentioned too, wondered if we could find parents looking at Bertha. Just found her so looking!

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hoe/
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: willsy on Monday 23 May 16 21:44 BST (UK)
There's an obituary in Trove, only mentions sister Bel

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hof/

the following year in memory of him, she referers to him as brother and pal.....Bel Preshner

She married Morris Preshner, he died 1950's

Believe this his him

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWG1-GVX

and he and Bel travel from England 6 Nov 1954

Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: willsy on Monday 23 May 16 22:07 BST (UK)
Lots in the paper for the Preshner's, burial as Bel 1961, refs  and military records on Australian National archives for Morris but I didn't see a marriage. They had one son who sadly died young.

https://billiongraves.com/grave/Bel-PRESHNER/5137584#
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: willsy on Monday 23 May 16 22:43 BST (UK)
Long way round..sorry bear with me; as I looked through the military records for Morris, there was a signature for Bel Slack 1922. Think I am on the right lines, so in Trove there is a divorce case between Bertha (Luscombe) formerly an actress and Horace John Slack 1923

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hog/

which is as

Australia Marriage Index
Name:    Horace J Slack
Spouse Name:    Berta Luscombe
Marriage Date:    1901
Marriage Place:    New South Wales
Registration Place:    Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year:    1901

The marriage took place on
August 29, 1901, at Phillip-street, Sydney, ac-cording to the rites of the Primitive Methodist Church. Mr. Maddocks Cohen appeared for the petitioner.

I kept looking in case the other surnames you mention came up, be glad of your thoughts

Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: willsy on Monday 23 May 16 23:04 BST (UK)
Just found

Australian deaths
Name:    Berta Preshner
Birth Year:    abt 1883
Age:    78
Death Place:    Victoria
Father's name:    Jacob Luscombe
Mother's name:    Unknown Annie
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 23 May 16 23:10 BST (UK)
Looking in the free searches for British newspapers, i can see some mentions of Louis Luscombe in 1900. he the switches to Andre Kaya by 1902 and is in his heyday until abuot 1910, after which there are only one or two mentions of him.

However I can't see him coming into the UK or on 1901 census under either professional name or his birth name
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: Marianne Isaacs on Tuesday 24 May 16 08:07 BST (UK)
Thank you so much . This is getting more and more interesting . It looks as if Andre's family and mine came out at the same time. I wonder how they were related ?
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: Marianne Isaacs on Tuesday 24 May 16 08:12 BST (UK)
As to the divorce , I know that marrying outside the faith was very much frowned upon , however more so for men as the faith is passed down the female line .
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: willsy on Tuesday 24 May 16 22:41 BST (UK)
Bel's marriage to Morris

Victoria Marriages 1836-1942
First name(s)    Morris
Last name    Preshner
Marriage year    1924
Spouse's first name(s)    Berta
Spouse's last name    Slack
State    Victoria
Country    Australia
Registration number    5903
Title: Re: Andre Kaya also known as Louis Luscombe
Post by: AllieT on Tuesday 17 April 18 13:41 BST (UK)
I have long wondered about Andre . How would I find out who his  parents were and how they are related to Rose . Roses mother was Pearl Opas .can I find out about his life I wonder ?

Andre's mother Annie Luscombe was born with the surname LUEL, and her parents were Zelig LUEL and Rachel OPAS.  They were from Kalisz.