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Title: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: sherekhan on Tuesday 26 July 16 15:20 BST (UK)
HI I am searching for the deaths of the above, think they died in Birdwell,  Barnsley, South Yorkshire.  Bertie in c1971 and Florie in c1982.   Think they were born around 1910 but not sure where. Any help would be great.
Paul
Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 26 July 16 15:28 BST (UK)
I think we might need a little more help from you:

Bertie - is that Albert or Herbert or ?
Florrie - is that Florence or ?  Did she have any other forename?

Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: sherekhan on Tuesday 26 July 16 15:50 BST (UK)
Bit more info .. Bertie Brown m Florrie Green Sept qtr 1924 Barnsley.
so names were Bertie and Florrie
Paul
Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 26 July 16 16:02 BST (UK)
Bertie Brown
Birth 22 Feb 1894
Death Registration   Mar qtr 1971
Age at Death   77
Reg district Staincross
2d / 1360

Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 26 July 16 16:03 BST (UK)
Have you looked for them in 1939 register to establish their dates of birth
Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 26 July 16 16:07 BST (UK)
Florrie - possible birthdate 23 Aug 1893.

Almost a match with this death:

Florrie Brown, born 23 Aug 1891, Sep qtr 1974 Bradford.
Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 26 July 16 16:10 BST (UK)
Probate for the death I have given
Bertie Brown of 137 Worsbrough Road, Birdwell died 19 February 1971
Probate Sheffield 6 December
Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: BumbleB on Tuesday 26 July 16 16:13 BST (UK)
If that is the couple then they were born before 1910/1911  :-\

There are a number of children possibly born to this couple, but as they may very well still be alive, I am unable to name them.

However, by using FreeBMD, and using the surname Brown and mother's maiden name of Green, plus a start date of 1924, there are some possibilities in the Barnsley Registration District.  Sorry, I may be telling you something you already know how to do.

rosie99 and avm228 have given you a lot more information.  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 26 July 16 16:22 BST (UK)
1910 birthdates were unlikely given the 1924 marriage, anyway.
Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: sherekhan on Tuesday 26 July 16 16:43 BST (UK)
Thank you
for all your help, see what i can do with this
Paul
Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 27 July 16 15:29 BST (UK)
Bertie Brown
Birth 22 Feb 1894
Death Registration   Mar qtr 1971
Age at Death   77
Reg district Staincross
2d / 1360

There are three Bertie Browns registered in Q1 1894 and two Bertie Browns with a middle name. One is in Barnsley which seems the most likely, others are Gloucestershire, Wales, Croydon and Norwich.

Florrie Green is a bit more difficult there are two in Q3 1893, none in Q4 1893, none in Q3 1891, two in Q4 1891. Locations Chorlton and Leicester 1891 and Warrington and Sculcoates in 1893. Sculcoates is Yorkshire but some way from Barnsley.

Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 27 July 16 15:35 BST (UK)
In 1901 Barnsley Bertie is living with parents Henry and Agnes A and three older siblings at Worsbrough, Barnsley. Henry is 35, b Burntwood Yorks and a Butcher, Agnes is 34 b Darfield, Yorks.
Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 27 July 16 15:45 BST (UK)
Image of PR on FindMyPast
Bertie Brown 30 singe occ butcher of Worsbrough m Florrie Green 31 single shop assistant of Goldthorpe on 29 Sep 1924 at Worsbrough parish church by licence. His father Henry occ butcher, her father Charles occ farmer.
witnesses: Stanley Leeson, Fred Green, Edith Green, Mabel Winnard.
Fred and Edith could be Florrie's relatives
Title: Re: Bertie and Florie Brown
Post by: LizzieL on Wednesday 27 July 16 16:02 BST (UK)
In 1901 I have a Florrie Green age 7 b Mexborough (Doncaser RD) with father Charles general carter, mother Eliza, siblings Fred and Edith living in Mexborough. Fits except occupation, maybe he changed later or she bigged up her dad, won't be the first i've seen.

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Florrie age 7 fits with a Sept 1873 birthday, could be the informant on the death cert made a mistake with year of birth but knew the birthday. nearly did same thing when I registered my mother's death, luckily OH corrected me.