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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: dmjones on Saturday 20 August 16 13:32 BST (UK)
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Hi, anyone researching these familes (originally Welsh farmers) who came over to NZ around the early 1900’s? I’m in the UK and trying to knit together the various connections.
David Jones
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Hello David
You've posted your request in the New Zealand "Completed" section, but a moderator will move this to the main NZ Board, shortly. ;)
I'm sure we can assist you in some way, but in the meantime, can you please supply further identifying information for the JONES and BEECH families you seek.
~ Lu
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(Sorry originally posted on wrong board)
Hi, I would like to hear from anyone researching these Jones & Beech familes (originally Welsh farmers) who came over to NZ around the early 1900’s? My grandfather’s brother Robert Henry Jones (1887 – 1964) and his wife Catherine Beech, they farmed at Goodson Road, Hawera. Children: Ceridwen Elizabeth, Doris Elsie, Cecil Lloyd, Gladys Mary, Phillis Mabel, Irene May. Also connected were Thomas Alun Jones (c1875) SA then NZ. John Owen Jones who married Sarah Jones at Hawera Wesleyan Church 6/8/1910. Beech family of Katka-tamea and Vera Hey (nee Beech) well known musician.
I’m in the UK and trying to knit together the various connections.
David Jones
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(Sorry originally posted on wrong board)
Hi, I would like to hear from anyone researching these Jones & Beech familes (originally Welsh farmers) who came over to NZ around the early 1900’s? My grandfather’s brother Robert Henry Jones (1887 – 1964) and his wife Catherine Beech, they farmed at Goodson Road, Hawera.
Hi
There are at least three family trees at ancestry.com website which mention Robert Henry JONES (1887 - 1964) ... in one of which (POWELL tree) - the researcher is seeking to connect with "family members", cousins etc.
~ Lu
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Thanks Lu I'll take a look.
Cheers
David
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Hi David, I'm not researching your family ancestry, however while searching for my geneology I found this information. Not sure if you have it but thought you may be interested.
HEY, VERA nee BEECH
Vera Beech was born on the 9 August 1911 at Nurse Harvey’s, Hawera. She was the daughter of Edward and Edith Ann Beech nee Jones, a Welsh couple, who spoke the language fluently.
The family farmed at Alton, and after World War One, moved to Ruthin, North Wales, where they lived for 11 months. Upon their return they lived at Matapu.
As an eight year old, Vera caught the train from Te Roti to Hawera for music lessons from Daisy Reilly. As the conductor handed her ticket back it would read vera, half of Hawera, and this greatly amused her, thinking they knew her name.
Later she learnt music from Miss Olive Bocock at Matapu, and then as a boarder at Stratford High School, learnt from Miss Phyliss Weston. After she left school, her music lessons were with Mrs Blennerhasset of Eltham. Here, Vera passed her LTCL, ATCL, FTCL and LRSM (Licentiate Royal School of Music) exams, and began teaching music in Hawera.
On the 23 June 1942, Vera married John Hey at Hawera. The couple then went to live at Riverlea, where Vera continued to teach music. She was the official accompanist to the Kaponga schools choral festival, and also for Myra Wren’s choir at Manaia.
In 1962, Vera took a trip to England with her sister Phyllis, and her husband and son. John and Vera retired to New Plymouth, and Vera died there on the 12 April 1989.
SOURCE
Phyllis Beech, Hawera (sister)
Hope this can be of help.
Good Luck
Rae
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Hi David
Another article which you may want to follow up,
http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/76219801/Dying-Hawera-man-wants-to-find-his-family-before-its-too-late
Cheers
Rae
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Cemetery details:.....
Surname:HEY
Forenames:Vera Elizabeth
Last Address:Riverview Rest Home, Mangorei Road, New Plymouth
Age at Death:77 Years
Date of Death:12 Apr 1989
Category:Cremation
Funeral Director:Vospers Funeral Home, 257 Devon Street East, NEW PLYMOUTH 4310
Date of Cremation:15 Apr 1989
Type of Service:Not Available
Ashes Disposal:Garden Of Remembrance
Minniehaha.
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This reference to an interview with Ceridwen Elizabeth Smith nee Jones may be of interest to you.......
http://natlib.govt.nz/records/35831600?search%5Bi%5D%5Bdecade%5D=1910&search%5Bi%5D%5Bsubject%5D=Taranaki+Region&search%5Bpath%5D=items
Minniehaha.
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Probated will (1976) Cecil Lloyd JONES……..
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23016443
Cemetery details……..
http://public.stdc.govt.nz/cemeteries/
Minniehaha.
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Wow! Thank you Rae & Minnie for all your information - where do I start? I shall chase up the Will for Cecil Lloyd Jones that could be useful. Cecil was the only male offspring of Robert and Catherine Jones and I don't have info on any children he may have had. The interview with Ceridwen is very useful, it says it can't be released without permission of the owner Anita Carlise (granddaughter) so that could put me in touch with the family. I knew about Vera Hey, came across it on the web, but thanks anyway. Don't know whether poor Denis Jones is connected, may be a son of Cecil - we'll see.
Thank you both for your efforts
David
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Hello David,
Regarding the will of Cecil Lloyd Jones, you could request a look up for this. A Rootschatter may be able to photograph it for you.
A new topic, along the lines of -WELLINGTON Probate Look up- may do the trick.......
Minniehaha.
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A little information on John Owen JONES............
Birth of a son (his only child?):
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/HNS19110823.2.14?query=john%20owen%20jones
Registration of this birth:
1911/19288 Jones Maldwyn Lloyd Sarah Ann John Owen
Death:
1987/43286 Jones Maldwyn Lloyd 23 August 1911
Minniehaha.
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Cemetery details.........
Record Number : 8442
Name : Estate of Maldwyn Lloyd Jones
Section : Hawera General Episcopalian
New Plot ID : 11617
Block : XCV
Row :
Old Plot No : 39
Interment Status : Occupied
Plot Notes :
X Coord :
Y Coord:
Funeral Co-ordinator : Cleggs Funeral Services
Date Of Death : 19/09/1987
Date Of Interment : 22/09/1987
Date Of Birth :
Type Of Interment : Burial
Depth Of Plot : Double Depth
Deceased Age - Years : 75
- Months : 0
- Weeks :
- Days :
- Hours :
Occupation : Retired Farmer
Place Of Death :
Marital Status :
Gender :
Denomination : Anglican
Nationality :
Birth Place :
Headstone Photo :
Officiating :
Minniehaha.
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Is this the right family??
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sooty/hey.html
If so, Edward & Edith BEECH (nee JONES) had the following children in NZ:
Raymond Lloyd b. Dec 1907 (reg 1908), d. 1976
Gwladys Mary b. 1909
Vera Elizabeth b. 1911
Edith Myfanwy b. 1912
Phyllis Gwendoline b. 1913
Some good Welsh names there :)
Possible death as Edith Anne BEECH in 1942 aged 67 (reg 30752) and Edward in 1973 (reg 42380), born 13 Nov 1882.
See https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search
Also https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers and https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/
P.S. The family travelled to the UK returning to NZ in 1920. Edith is shown as Edith Ann Ruthin NW BEECH b. c1876 and Edward as Edward Green Park BEECH b. c1883 (may be birthplace - Ruthin, North Wales?) which fits death info above. The children were with them.
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Mollipops1, I have two threads open on this topic because I originally posted in the wrong place.
I've put your response here in the 2nd thread so that all the info is kept together.
Is this the right family??
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sooty/hey.html
If so, Edward & Edith BEECH (nee JONES) had the following children in NZ:
Raymond Lloyd b. Dec 1907 (reg 1908), d. 1976
Gwladys Mary b. 1909
Vera Elizabeth b. 1911
Edith Myfanwy b. 1912
Phyllis Gwendoline b. 1913
Some good Welsh names there :)
Possible death as Edith Anne BEECH in 1942 aged 67 (reg 30752) and Edward in 1973 (reg 42380), born 13 Nov 1882.
See https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search
Also https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers and https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/
P.S. The family travelled to the UK returning to NZ in 1920. Edith is shown as Edith Ann Ruthin NW BEECH b. c1876 and Edward as Edward Green Park BEECH b. c1883 (may be birthplace - Ruthin, North Wales?) which fits death info above. The children were with them.
Yes, they are part of the family (cousins). You will see reference to Vera Hey (nee Beech) and her sister Phyllis Gwendoline in the previous posts above. Their mother was Edith Ann Jones born at Plymog Farm, Llanferres, nr Mold. I didn't know they lived at Green Park (which is very close to my home in Llanrhydd, Ruthin!).
Thank you for this info, it is all useful stuff, however I still trying to link Robert Henry Jones's wife Catherine Beech, into these Beeches - I'm sure they are connected.
David
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Minniehaha
In my files I've found Maldwyn Jones (born 1908, birth reg. 1911) he married a Gladys Adlam they had 5 children:
Edit , living ?
Thanks
David
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Maldwyn's birth wasn't 1908, it was 23/08/1911
Sorry
David
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Hi David,
I have just merged your two topics together.
Regards
Sarah ;)
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Ooops David!! If these people are still alive you should remove their names from reply #16. :)
It being a Rootschat rule not to show the names of the living on the forum....
Minniehaha.
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Oh dear! thanks for alerting me, I've asked the moderator to remove reply no. 16.
David
Children's names removed.
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Hello David,
I have found a family contact for you. Full details sent by PM.
Can you PM your e-mail address to me please as I have scans of a death notice for you......
Minniehaha.
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HiDavid I realize this post was way back in August but am wondering if you have the information you need? I am a relative of the Beech family and may be able to fill in some gaps.
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Hi, well despite receiving a considerable amount of very useful information from NZ contributors, I didn’t manage to link my great uncle Henry’s wife Catherine Beech to the many NZ Beeches who are otherwise connected to my family, I’m sure she must be from the same heritage. I’ll PM some info to you which may be of interest. Thanks for getting in touch.
David J