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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Shropshire => Topic started by: cj1992 on Friday 25 November 16 18:33 GMT (UK)
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Jonah Peaceful
I’ve been told that this is a photograph of Jonah Peaceful, born 1845 (Registered in Lilleshall, Shropshire), died 11 May 1908 (Registered Newport, Shropshire).
Census records show him as a Coal Miner.
To me this doesn’t seem to ring true. This doesn’t look like the photograph of a coal miner. And I can’t understand why it was taken in Reading. Not only from a geographical point of view but looking at the pedigree of the photographic studio I’m sure their services didn’t come cheap.
As far as dates are concerned I don’t know when this photographic studio was in operation. It may be that this contradicts information I’ve been given.
Has anybody got any thoughts on this?
Many thanks.
CJ.
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My first thought on looking at the photo was that this man was a preacher.
Jonah the coal blaster had a wife Salome, and children with biblical names, a coal miner could also be a part time preacher.
Mike
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Interestingly, jabez peaceful, born Shropshire 1844, possibly a relative, is in Berkshire in 1891, described as county town missionary.
Mike
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Thanks Mazi.
Jonah's wife was Salome Howells.
He had a brother Jabez, born 1843 (it may have been 1844) registered in Donnington, Shropshire and he died in 1904 (registered in Wokingham, Berkshire - which might fit in with your information). I don't have any information about Jabez so your description of "county town missionary" is new to me.
By all accounts they were a very religious family but I just can't see a miner in that photograph. I thinks it's the beard that's throwing me. I agree that it does make you think of a preacher but I can't imagine that at the coal face. I'm beginning to wonder if it's a photograph of Jabez and not Jonah.
Regards
CJ
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I've been trying to locate Jabez on the 1881 Census but I can't find anywhere on FindMyPast.
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My hunch that this is a photo of Jabez is getting stronger.
A Jabez Peaceful married Sarah Ann Strong in the Newport, Shropshire district in 1870. On the 1871 Census they appear in Widnes, Lancashire and his occupation is shown as Scripture Reader.
On the 1891 Census they are in Berkshire and he is shown as "Missionary County Town".
Can anyone confirm that the Jabez Peaceful who married Sarah Strong in 1870 is the brother of Jonah Peaceful? His father was James Peaceful and his mother was Ann Hodson (although his father had a second marriage in 1858, to Mary Rigby).
Many thanks.
CJ
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The 1861 census on Familysearch has James and Mary in lilleshall with
Jonah son
Jabar. Son
Louise dau.
I would think that Jabar is Jabez, but a birth registration eludes me.
I would not expect to see a christening :) :)
Mike
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The birth of Jabez Peaceful, mother's maiden name Hodson, was registered in Newport, Shropshire in Jun qtr 1843.
Per GRO Online.
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Looks like they were brothers
PEACEFULL, JONAH Mother's maiden name HODSON
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in NEWPORT, SALOP & STAFFORDSHIRE Volume 18 Page 125
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1881 Census @ 304 Granville Row, Lilleshall, Shropshire
Jonah Peaceful 36 - Coal miner
Salome Peaceful 34
Ann Peaceful 12
Jabez Peaceful 11
James Peaceful 9
Jonah Peaceful 6
John W. Peaceful 4
Harry Peaceful 2
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Is it worth trying to get the photo dated on the photo board, although with only two years between the bros. it may not help.
Mike
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Many thanks Mike, davidft and avm228 for all the information and guidance.
I'm trying to fit all the jigsaw pieces together but I doubt if I'll ever be 100% sure. I'm hoping to see the relative who has the "Jonah" photo over Xmas and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we might be able to shed a bit more light on things.
Once again, many thanks.
CJ
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I don't know if this will mean anything to you or not.
I have Jonah Peaceful on my Family Tree. He was born July 23, 1906 in Wellington, Shropshire. He died in 1986. in Wrekin, Shropshire. His wife was Edith Ann Harper born in 1899 in Donnington Wood She died in 1947 in Wellington, Shropshire. They were married in 1932 in Newport, Shropshire. The connection with me is through the Humpherson Line. My Grandparents come from Donnington Wood, and my grandfather was a coal miner.
Kind regards,
Doris Baaudoux
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Dear Doris.
Many thanks for your message.
Your Jonah Peaceful is the son of Jonah Peaceful (b. 1875, d. 1939) and Ada Griffiths (b. 1874, d. 1949).
Jonah Peaceful senior was one of my grandmother’s (Elizabeth Louisa Peaceful) brothers so that would make him my great uncle.
I’ve currently got details of two of young Jonah’s siblings (although there may be more). He had two sisters, Florence May Peaceful (b. 1900) and Ada Louisa Peaceful (b. 1903).
If you have any more information I’d be delighted to hear it.
I’ve been having a quick look at some of your posts on RootsChat and the name Ferraday rang a bell with me. My mother knew an Ida Ferraday whose father had the chemist shop in Oakengates. I think Ida or her father (or possibly both) might be buried in Wombridge churchyard. Please let me know if you think that there is a connection. I shall be in that area over Christmas (my mother is also buried there) and if I can find a headstone I’ll take a photograph for you.
Thank you so much for contacting me.
Kind regards
Paula.
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Hi,
I know it's been a while, but -
Jabez Peaceful was indeed a preacher/minister around Wokingham/Reading, at the turn of the (previous) century: he was minister of the Wesleyan Chapel, Wargrave Road, Twyford, until he died in 1904.
The building itself then became a "working men's club", and was then gifted to the men of Twyford who returned from the First World War.
They played snooker there, and it's still a snooker club now, the building itself little changed:
https://www.twyfordsnooker.com/#club
I don't know whether the original photo is Jabez, but there's a Local History Society here who might...
https://www.trlhs.org.uk/
If this message finds anyone interested, they would be the people to ask.
Best wishes,
Nick Healey
(web stuff @Twyford Snooker Club)
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Thank you Nick. That's really interesting. I'm going to follow it up and hopefully the local history group might be able to help.
Kind regards
Chris