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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: carol80 on Thursday 08 December 16 01:03 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help Please.
Trying to find any information on Fanny Schouten b 24 Jan 1903 Netherlands d 1990 Te Awamutu
I have found 4 Records for her at Archway.
I know Wellington searches are unavailable at the moment and i have a request for her Auckland probate
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=760487.0
From what i can see on Archway Fanny was registered as a New Zealand citizen on 26 June 1959. Her maiden name was Fruitman, she was Dutch and noted as Mrs.
Fanny was my godmother but i also think she may be related to my father's side of my tree.
I have looked for her burial location but she is not at Te Awamutu.
I did however find the grave of Adrians Willem Schouten in Te Awamutu who died 13 July 1960. Husband maybe? He was a Horticultural Instructor at Waikeria. My Mum's father also worked there.
Due to mobility issues i am unable to get to my local library to search any further.
Any help would be most appreciated and gratefully received
Carol.
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Hi, there is a cremation record for a Fanny Schouten at Hamilton Park Cemetery - died 24 June 1990, cremated 27 June, age 87. Looks like that could be her :)
Last address given as Matariki Hospital, Te Awamutu. Not sure if related but there is also a cremation record for a Johannes Schouten (died 8 April 2008, aged 66) and a Nicolaas Johannes Schouten (died 23 Sep 1994, aged aged 57).
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Fanny SCHOUTEN
Age:87
Female
Died:24/06/1990
Born:
Cremated: 27/06/1990
Type: Cremation
Funeral Director: Te Awamutu Funeral Services
Last Address: Matariki Hospital Te Awamutu
Location: Hamilton Park Cemetery
ER's
Fanny Schouten 1963 Waitomo Waikato
Fanny Schouten 1969 Waitomo Waikato
Fanny Schouten 1972 Raglan Waikato
Fanny Schouten 1978 Waipa Waikato
Fanny Schouten 1981 Waipa Waikato
Cheers Janette
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Many Thanks for both replies.
Welcome alivin.
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From FamilySearch
Fanny Schouten
New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists
Name Fanny Schouten
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1962
Event Place Rotterdam (other ports also listed), New Zealand
Age 58
Marital Status Widowed
Occupation h d
Birth Year (Estimated) 1904
Ship Name Willem Ruys
Departure Port Wellington
Arrival Port Rotterdam (other ports also listed)
Arrival Place Rotterdam (other ports also listed)
Cheers Janette
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PM sent with death notice for Johannes Schouten [2008]......
Minniehaha.
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Thanks Carol :-) The Te Awamutu cemetery record for Adrianus Willem Schouten on Ancestry gives his spouse's name as Fanny Schouten, and he was naturalised on 22 May 1959
Cheers,
Alicia
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Great find alivin. I was sure he was her husband but had no proof.
Thanks minniehaha.
Janette. thank you. I did find one for 1963 going to Wellington from Rotterdam Widow aged 60 but missed the entry you found.
A very grateful Carol
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http://leiden.courant.nu/issue/NLC/1960-07-15/edition/0/page/4
His death appears to have been reported in newspapers in Leiden, giving her maiden name as 'Vleesdrager'.
Digging into this reference, a sad story begins to emerge.
A comment on this blog mentions a Fanny Vleeschdrager who married the writer's uncle, a Ad Schouten. Her family are said to have died in Sobibor - a death camp in German-occupied Poland
http://weblogs.nos.nl/evenementen/2010/04/08/selma-de-vrouw-die-sobibor-overleefde/
Here we find Juda Fruitmann, husband of Fanny Vleeschdrager, and two daughters, Carla and Eleanor, listed among the dead.
http://www.brandgrens.nl/media/ls_vervolging_en_dwangarbeid/documenten/namenlijst_kaddisj.pdf
http://www.maxvandam.info/humo-gen/family.php?id=F31404&main_person=I83672
Fanny was born in Batavia (now Jakarta), in what was then the Dutch East Indies, and her daughters were both born in that area as well. Carla was aged 20 when she died, and Eleanora would have been just a few months shy of her 13th birthday.
After such a tragedy, I hope Fanny found happiness in NZ in her last days.
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The last time i saw her was in 1969. i remember her as full of life type person and very giving. I used to go her place after school instead of going home. She always told me i was her little girl. My grandparents visited often. After reading your links i now know why she was close to my grandparents.
During the war my grandfather printed false passports for the Jews. Auntie Fanny used to tell me my grandfather was a great man for his country.
Thanks to you Fanny will no longer be a name on my tree. You have brought her back to life.
Many Thanks jorose
Fanny's god daughter
Carol
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You are looking for information about Fanny Schouten. I have met her in the Netherlands in the 70's. She had been married with Ad Schouten about 1956, uncle of my wife. Her first husband was Juda Fruitmann. They had three children before the World War. They lived in Rotterdam since 1937. Son Ernest died before the war. Juda and their two daughters were killed bij the nazi's in 1943.
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Hi Houdtgj, and welcome to RootsChat :) :)
You and Carol80 will find it easier to exchange information via the Personal Message (PM) system although you will need to make another two posts to activate it.
Just reply twice more, even just a smiley is ok. ;D
Then Carol80 can send you a PM and you can exchange email addresses, etc.
http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
By the way, RootsChat has a personal privacy policy of not posting details of living or possibly living persons. Can you confirm that all those persons you mentioned above are deceased?
Spades
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Spades; All people named are deceased.
Houdtgj; Welcome to rootschat and thank-you for your in formation. Once you have made another reply i will contact you through the PM system. Would love to know more about her.
Carol80
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Hi Carol, I am willing to contact you via PM. hopefullly we can share some more information
Greets
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Thanks Houdtgj ;)
And congratulations to you both for making a connection.
Spades
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PM sent
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Hello Carol80
Hello houdtgj
I registered some time back but this is my first posting. My husband has used rootschat for many years.
I have just read the content of this thread and your connection to Fanny Schouten. I knew this lovely lady in the 1960's when she lived with my grandparent in Te Awamutu. Would be very happy to share what I know but due to some sensitivities I will build my communication to qualify for PM usage.
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Hello Carol80
I am more than happy for you to have my private email in due course as we clearly both lived in Te Awamutu and more than likely know each other already :)
Sandra
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Sandra,
Welcome to RootsChat. :) You can exchange email addresses if you wish using the Personal Messaging on here.
All the best,
Trystan