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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Berkshire => England => Berkshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Jules1 on Sunday 15 January 17 22:00 GMT (UK)
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Dear All
I wonder if anyone can help me at all - I am wondering if anyone has access to the marriage records of John Musselwhite to Ellen Cook - I know it was on the 17th October 1896 at Stubbings Church, Near Maidenhead, Berkshire but cannot find the marriage Banns for this.
I am trying to establish where/details of Ellen Cook. She was born around 1876 and according to the 1911 census was from Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire. I cannot find a birth, previous census records or anything for her - can't find either John or Ellen in the 1891, 1901 or 1939 census records. They were both still alive until the 1950's so should be somewhere.
My dad thinks her father was a William Cook - but trying to do a standard search for Ellen or William brings up 100's of names but cannot find any for Hertfordshire. My dad thought that they were from Maidenhead, Berkshire but again I cannot find anything. (My dad said Ellen's father was a builder in Maidenhead).
Can anyone help at all please.
Many thanks if you can help in anyway.
Kind regards
Julie
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Hi in 1901 they are shown as MUZELWHITE:-
John 30? occ Gardener
Ellen 25
John 5
Arthur 1
Ernest 0
Residing at The Hermitage, Buxted, Uckfield, Sussex
Census Ref RG13/902/28/6
Keyboard86
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Here's the marriage reg
Marriages December qtr 1896
John Musselwhite/Ellen Cook Maidenhead 2c 929
In the absence of any local transcriptions you will need to buy a copy of the cert
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The 1901 incorrectly shows both John & Ellen as being born in Herts - but both are shown as born Cookham
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Hi again, were their two John Musselwhite's who marry an Ellen one born c 1876 the other c 1870 Cookham as the John in 1901 occ Gardener is 22 occ Gardener b Cookham in 1891 census?
Census Ref RG12/1005/102/8
Keyboard86
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There is only one John Musselwhite b Cookham on the 1871/1881/1891 census. On all entries he is born 1869 and parents are John & Ann
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Hi again in 1891 their is an Ellen Cook aged 14 b Rickmansworth shown as General Servant at the Red Lion Hotel, High Street, Cookham
Census Ref RG12/1004/113/25
Keyboard86
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Hi again, can't help thinking that Ellen formed part of this 1891 family:-
William Cook 26 occ Bricklayers Lab b Rickmansworth
Mary A 35
William 14
Henry 10
Alice 8
Eliza 4
James Preston 37 Boarder
All others shown as born Maidenhead
Residing at Orchard Cottages, College Avenue, Maidenhead
Census Ref RG12/1005/49/54
Keyboard86
Looking at the 1901 I do not think they know where they were born, William is now born Oxford, Mary Ann Watford, Hertfordshire, and Alice Swindon, Wiltshire!
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Hi again, there is a potential marriage of a William Cook to ( on same page) a Mary Ann Belch Sept qtr 1876 Watford 3a 540 in 1871 census there is a Mary Ann Belch aged 14 b Rickmansworth shown as daughter to a William Rackley at Church Street, Rickmansworth
Census Ref RG10/1383/61/25
Marriage 23rd September 1876 St Peters Church, Mill End
William Cook 21 occ Labourer Father Henry Cook
Mary Ann Belch 19 No Father shown
Witnesses Thomas and Eliza Saunders ( Eliza was a Belch, once again daughter of William Rackley who was living with a Mary Ann Belch in 1851 and 1861 as RAELEY)
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And from the GRO Index you have an Ellen Cook December qtr 1876 Watford Union mmn Belch
Keyboard86
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Dear Keyboard86 and CaroleW
Thank you both for your help. Keyboard I think you may have finally cracked it for me, I've been stuck with this line of my family forever!
I have applied for John & Ellen's marriage certificate so will let you know who Ellen's father was and fingers crossed this will all tie in.
Once again, many thanks for all your help.
Kind regards
Julie
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Hi a bit confused, the father of Ellen was William Cook, it is the father of Mary Ann Belch that is possibly required, although if you look at the census returns William Rackley has within his household a Mary Ann Belch as Housekeeper, who even in 1841 had two children that could possibly be his.
Later today I will post the 1861/71 for William Cook, he knew his wife Mary Ann Belch from an early age if my findings are correct!
Keyboard86
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Hi again, Marriage March qtr 1844 Wallingford v6 page 311 Henry Cook Mary Ann Slade
Birth William Cook June qtr 1855 Witney 03a 539 mmn Slade
1871 census :-
Henry Cook 50 b Wells, Somerset
Mary Ann 49 b Berkshire
John 18 b Berkshire
William 16 b Oxfordshire
Frances 14 b Berkshire
George 11 b Hertfordshire
Residing at The Vine Beer Shop, Rickmansworth
Census ref RG10/1383/83/24
1861 census:-
Mary Ann Cook 38 b Berkshire
Henry 11 b Berkshire
John 7 b Berkshire
William 5 b Oxfordshire
Fanny 3 b Berkshire
George 1 b Rickmansworth
Residing at Golden Cross, Rickmansworth
Census ref RG09/835/53/22
Keyboard86
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Hi keyboard86 and CaroleW
Just a quick update to let you know the marriage and birth certificates arrived today and it is definitely the correct family - William Cook & Mary Ann were Ellen's parents.
Thank you both so much for all your help and to you keyboard86 for sending me all the further information as it is all stop on. I have been stuck for 2 years on this line of tree so wished I'd posted sooner!
What website do you use for searches?
Once again many thanks.
Kind regards
Julie