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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Angus (Forfarshire) => Topic started by: Blakes80 on Saturday 04 February 17 16:39 GMT (UK)
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hi does anyone know of Clement Park Nursing Home in Lochee, I interested in knowing if anyone was born there between 1960 and 1970. I was and was adopted in England?. have no information other than place of birth and family members etc. many thanks.
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Hi Blakes80
Clement Park was owned and run by the Salvation Army.
From memory a few years ago there was a discussion on here about it and I am sure the person enquiring about it couldn't find any records.
Perhaps one of the moderators could find the old post as I am doing this from a kindle not my machine.
Yours Aye
BruceL
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Hi Blakes,
Not sure if this is on the Perthshire board for a reason?
Was your birth parent(s) from Perthshire?
If no real reason, it may be best to ask a Mod to move it to the Angus (Forfarshire) board as Clement Park was in Dundee, Angus.
Topic moved.
I know someone who was born there 1958/59 although not adopted.
Annie
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Previous post;
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=716130.msg5598033#msg5598033
Related topic;
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=549278.msg5861309#msg5861309
Annie
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Hi Anne
In the early days of the NHS only the first born was born in hospital and any subsequent children's birth was down to the parents, I as first born was born in local hospital my siblings were born in Clement park I don't know when this system changed. I know that when my youngest brother was born myself and my sister spent a couple of day's in a children's home while my mother was in Dundee giving birth to our brother.
( From Memory!) I remember for years afterwards the man from the Salvation Army collected life insurance premiums from my parents.
Yours Aye
BruceL
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Hi Bruce,
The one I have born Clement Park is a close relation (2nd of 3)
I have looked at SP for the only known siblings I have & they siblings were born Perth.
Whether in Hospital or at home I don't know as I don't have the certs.
There was a 10 yr gap between 1st born (Perth) & 2nd born Clement so there may have been others in between who died?
Annie
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Hi, I had my daughter in clement park nursing home in 1965 and then (unusually not having her adopted) went on to work as a nursing assistant in the home. Part of my job was to assist the army midwife in the delivery room. I lived there till my daughter was 2 years old and saw many babies born who generally went on like you to be adopted.
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I know of someone born 1959 at Maryfield Hospital, Dundee who was adopted & wonder if this was part of Clement Park?
Annie
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Hi Annie
Maryfield had nothing to do with Clement Park.
see link below
https://archiveshub.jisc.ac.uk/search/archives/42d2cbd5-4941-351a-8954-b5422370daa7
Yours Aye
BruceL
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It was not unusual for difficult deliveries (i.e. Sections) to be transferred to Maryfield from clement park. Mum and baby would then be returned to Clement Park. If baby was to be adopted they would remain in the care of Salvation Army for around 6 weeks.
Private patients could pay to have their babies delivered in the private wing of the hospital. This gave the army extra income. Indeed if the Dundee hospital was very busy they would transfer mothers and new babies after delivery to convaless for a few days at clement park. It was usual at that time that new mums were kept in hospital for up to a week.
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Hi Glendo,
Would this also be the case if the mother was ill with Jaundice which I believe may have been the case when the child adopted was born at Maryfield?
Annie
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Yes that's possible but can't say for sure without knowing.
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Does anyone know what area children placed for adoption at Clement park were placed. Try to find my birth sister who was born at clement park 1965.
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Hi
Clement Park was owned and run by the Salvation Army try them to see if they will help you.
Yours Aye
BruceL
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Article on the Salvation Army Homes. Scroll down to about the middle of the article for Clement Park.
For further information and the Salvation Army address scroll down to the end of the article.
http://www.formerchildrenshomes.org.uk/salvation_army_childrens_homes.html
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I do not know what areas babies were adopted to (only happen to know a couple in Angus adopted two babies. We "girls" used to peep out the windows to try to get a glimpse of the couple leaving. Baby was bathed and dressed in its best clothes ready to go by it's birth mother. Usually in hand knits she had made. These wee ones had been breast fed since birth before leaving the home usually around 6weeks old. A very sad day when they were handed to matron Booth to give away.
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hi , i was born in clement park nursing home on february 19th ,1947,we lived in step row ,off perth road .it was a paying affair at that time ,mom said it was private.now the mansion home of cox is still standing but the other 3 have gone to make way for clement park homes .i think now its made into flats .jack.
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I was born 27 March 1965 at the Salvation Home for Unmarried Mothers Clement Park Nursing Home. In 1965 My Parents lived in Letham Perth and would have had me in Perth Royal but there was not enough space in the maternity ward so Clement Park was the over flow maternity. My mother told me that although My Sister and Two brothers were born in Hospital it was the tradition for me to be born at home. I was the youngest of four but my mother insisted that I was to be born in a Hospital/clinic environment. The reason being that my brother who was born in 1962 had been a difficult birth and she had miscarried what would have been me in 1964 so she was not taking any chances with me. She was horrified with the way the unmarried mothers were treated by the Salvation Army as when the ladies had given birth they for an act of penance were treated harshly and forced to get up and clean the building. My mother said those times were when women and children were treated as no more than chattels.