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Title: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: Diane Heddon on Monday 20 February 17 07:35 GMT (UK)
Hi,If anyone has spare time could you try to help with this please?I have here Thomas Henry Mcdonald he married Alice Goss Alice's father was John Goss.His Father was Henry Goss who it seems they may all have lived in Sebastopol street, Danygraig Swansea Unfortunely these are the only Goss links of which I have no dates, but there could be some light shed around the 1870/1940's certs, JohnGoss married Mary Kneath they had 5 children,' William Goss is the one I am trying to follow up with desperately. 'Also there are Beatrice, Hellen/Ellen? and Louisa!Neither my friend and cousin or I can find the name of ' Henry Goss mother.'or parents at all. Sorry I do not have exact dates on this family. thanking you Diane.
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 20 February 17 07:42 GMT (UK)
Some hints as to years would be helpful?

The first marriage was:
December qtr 1925
Swansea Registration District     vol 11a, page 1896

Goss, Alice M
McDonald, James T H


Alice's birth?
September qtr 1904
Swansea Registration District     vol 11a, page 1060

Goss, Alice Maud

(But there are also Alice Maud Goss births in 1900 and 1909! :-\)
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 20 February 17 07:49 GMT (UK)
Using the new GRO Search facilty (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates):
(You have to register, but it's free!)

GOSS, ALICE  MAUD      KNEATH      
GRO Reference: 1904  S Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 1060

GOSS, WILLIAM  HENRY      KNEATH      
GRO Reference: 1906  D Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 1029

GOSS, ELLEN  HELENA      KNEATH      
GRO Reference: 1909  S Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 1154

GOSS, MARY  LOUISA      KNEATH        
GRO Reference: 1911  D Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 2159


Beatrice was born before the marriage!
KNEATH, BEATRICE  MAY      -  (usually indicating an illegitimate birth)    
GRO Reference: 1902  M Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 997
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: Girl Guide on Monday 20 February 17 07:52 GMT (UK)
John and Mary's marriage here

Marriages Mar 1902 

Goss    John         Swansea   11a   1329    
Kneath    Mary  Swansea    11a   1329    
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 20 February 17 07:59 GMT (UK)
An Anc tree lists son William as born 1906 as William Henry Goss and gives a death of him as 1918
having added a correction to the below record to William Henry Goss :-\

William E Goss  Age 12
Dec Qtr 1918 Swansea  Vol 11a Page 1771
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: Diane Heddon on Monday 20 February 17 08:05 GMT (UK)
Hi,If anyone has spare time could you try to help with this please?I have here Thomas Henry Mcdonald he married Alice Goss Alice's father was John Goss.His Father was Henry Goss who it seems they may all have lived in Sebastopol street, Danygraig Swansea Unfortunely these are the only Goss links of which I have no dates, but there could be some light shed around the 1870/1940's certs, JohnGoss married Mary Kneath they had 5 children,' William Goss is the one I am trying to follow up with desperately. 'Also there are Beatrice, Hellen/Ellen? and Louisa!Neither my friend and cousin or I can find the name of ' Henry Goss mother.'or parents at all. Sorry I do not have exact dates on this family. thanking you Diane.
Using the new GRO Search facilty (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates):
(You have to register, but it's free!)

GOSS, ALICE  MAUD      KNEATH      
GRO Reference: 1904  S Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 1060

GOSS, WILLIAM  HENRY      KNEATH      
GRO Reference: 1906  D Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 1029

GOSS, ELLEN  HELENA      KNEATH      
GRO Reference: 1909  S Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 1154

GOSS, MARY  LOUISA      KNEATH        
GRO Reference: 1911  D Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 2159


Beatrice was born before the marriage!
KNEATH, BEATRICE  MAY      -  (usually indicating an illegitimate birth)    
GRO Reference: 1902  M Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 997
John and Mary's marriage here

Marriages Mar 1902 

Goss    John         Swansea   11a   1329    
Kneath    Mary  Swansea    11a   1329    
Hi,If anyone has spare time could you try to help with this please?I have here Thomas Henry Mcdonald he married Alice Goss Alice's father was John Goss.His Father was Henry Goss who it seems they may all have lived in Sebastopol street, Danygraig Swansea Unfortunely these are the only Goss links of which I have no dates, but there could be some light shed around the 1870/1940's certs, JohnGoss married Mary Kneath they had 5 children,' William Goss is the one I am trying to follow up with desperately. 'Also there are Beatrice, Hellen/Ellen? and Louisa!Neither my friend and cousin or I can find the name of ' Henry Goss mother.'or parents at all. Sorry I do not have exact dates on this family. thanking you Diane.
Some hints as to years would be helpful?

The first marriage was:
December qtr 1925
Swansea Registration District     vol 11a, page 1896

Goss, Alice M
McDonald, James T H


Alice's birth?
September qtr 1904
Swansea Registration District     vol 11a, page 1060

Goss, Alice Maud

(But there are also Alice Maud Goss births in 1900 and 1909! :-\)
gee thank youGarrad i was not expecting to be helped around this..especially so soon.many thanks Diane.
Hi,If anyone has spare time could you try to help with this please?I have here Thomas Henry Mcdonald he married Alice Goss Alice's father was John Goss.His Father was Henry Goss who it seems they may all have lived in Sebastopol street, Danygraig Swansea Unfortunely these are the only Goss links of which I have no dates, but there could be some light shed around the 1870/1940's certs, JohnGoss married Mary Kneath they had 5 children,' William Goss is the one I am trying to follow up with desperately. 'Also there are Beatrice, Hellen/Ellen? and Louisa!Neither my friend and cousin or I can find the name of ' Henry Goss mother.'or parents at all. Sorry I do not have exact dates on this family. thanking you Diane.
right i will remember and place this all in my files now..[smiles from across the waves] and those   2 dates too!


Many thanks girl guide! regards Diane.


Thank you Kay,and Garrad   very much as I gor lost around all my john goss'es....



Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 20 February 17 08:07 GMT (UK)
1901 census
Class: RG13; Piece: 5079; Folio: 120; Page: 27
23 Sebastapol Street, Swansea

Goss, Henry  Head  M  Widower  66  House Carpenter  b Georgeham, Devon
Goss, Helena  Daughter  F  38  Charwoman  b Georgeham, Devon
Goss, Thomas  Son  M  29  Dock Labourer (Iron Ore)  b Swansea
Goss, John  Son  M  27  Dock Labourer (Iron Ore)  b Swansea
Goss, William  Grandson  M  10  b Swansea
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: Diane Heddon on Monday 20 February 17 08:09 GMT (UK)
Using the new GRO Search facilty (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates):
(You have to register, but it's free!)

GOSS, ALICE  MAUD      KNEATH      
GRO Reference: 1904  S Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 1060

GOSS, WILLIAM  HENRY      KNEATH      
GRO Reference: 1906  D Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 1029

GOSS, ELLEN  HELENA      KNEATH      
GRO Reference: 1909  S Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 1154

GOSS, MARY  LOUISA      KNEATH        
GRO Reference: 1911  D Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 2159


Beatrice was born before the marriage!
KNEATH, BEATRICE  MAY      -  (usually indicating an illegitimate birth)    
GRO Reference: 1902  M Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 997
An Anc tree lists son William as born 1906 as William Henry Goss and gives a death of him as 1918
having added a correction to the below record to William Henry Goss :-\

William E Goss  Age 12
Dec Qtr 1918 Swansea  Vol 11a Page 1771
many many thanks ..Kay i am a cat lover..luv u pic...Diane.

thanks will jot down the site to look at as well. Diane
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 20 February 17 08:10 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage of Beatrice M Goss to Daniel Thomas
Dec Qtr  1921 Swansea Vol 11a Page 2180

Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 20 February 17 08:14 GMT (UK)
Can't see John Goss in the 1891 census, but in 1881:

Class: RG11; Piece: 5355; Folio: 118; Page: 48
31 Jersey Street, Swansea, Glamorgan

Goss, Henry  M  49  Joiner  b Georgeham, Devon
Goss, Sarah  Wife  F  42  b Heanton, Devon
Goss, William  Son  M  19  Blacksmith  b Georgeham, Devon
Goss, Alice Mary  Daughter  F  14  Scholar  b Llansamlet, Glamorgan
Goss, Thomas  Son  M  9  Scholar  b Swansea
Goss, John  Son  M  8  Scholar  b Swansea
Goss, George  Son  M  5  Scholar  b Swansea
Goss, Beatrice  Daughter  F  3  b Swansea
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 20 February 17 08:23 GMT (UK)
Henry is with his widowed mother, Ann, in 1861, and an apprentice living out of home in 1851.
So, 1841 census
Class: HO107; Piece: 204; Book: 8; Folio: 5; Page: 5
Georgeham Town, Georgeham, Devon

Goss, William  M  30  Blacksmith
Goss, Ann  F  35
Goss, John  M  12
Goss, Ann F  10
Goss, William  M  8
Goss, Henry  M  7
Goss, Thomas  M  4
Goss, Harriott  F  2
Goss, Mary  F  2 months             All born in county (Devon)

The 1841 census should round all adult ages (15 and over) down to a multiple of 5 years.
No relationships are given
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 20 February 17 08:25 GMT (UK)
1851 -John Goss and family living in Georgeham, Devon??  Except father as all born Georgeham Devon

William Goss  47  Blacksmith b Mawton Devon
Ann Goss    49
John Goss    22 Balcksmith
Ann Goss    20
William Goss 18 Blacksmith
Thomas Goss 14
Hariott Goss 12
Mary Ann Goss    10
Thomas Goss 6 Months
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 20 February 17 08:54 GMT (UK)
William & Ann's marriage will be before the onset of Civil Registration, so you will need Parish Registers for their marriage?

But birth Registrations:
GOSS, HARRIETT        BUTLER      
GRO Reference: 1839  M Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION  Volume 10  Page 37

GOSS, MARY  ANN      BUTLER        
GRO Reference: 1841  J Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION  Volume 10  Page 28

Giving Mother's Maiden Name as Butler.
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: Girl Guide on Monday 20 February 17 09:02 GMT (UK)
There is a John Goss born 1879 Swansea in the 1881 census, parents Henry and Mary.  Siblings James, William and Elizabeth.  Address is 5, Miers Street, Swansea St Thomas, Swansea

It may be best to obtain the marriage cert for John to Mary Kneath to ascertain John's age and his father's name and occupation.

Although with both father's called Henry could prove a little troublesome!  Perhaps witnesses on the marriage cert may clarify matters.
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: Diane Heddon on Wednesday 22 February 17 00:45 GMT (UK)
Possible marriage of Beatrice M Goss to Daniel Thomas
Dec Qtr  1921 Swansea Vol 11a Page 2180
Hi Kay I just recieved a message from Pedro, cannot finf the page again. I did as was advised to click onto the blue writing at the end of the post. to hopefully get all' my posts easily accessed onto one page' is this possible? I have been down all help lists...regards Diane.
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: Kay99 on Wednesday 22 February 17 05:46 GMT (UK)
Diane -   This is a link to the thread you mentioned http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=590484.msg6176918#msg6176918

To look at previous posts click on your Profile (Summery)  at the top of the page. Then click on Show Posts.   Someone else might know a quicker way

Kay
Title: Re: GOSS FAMILY SWANSEA -GLAMORGANSHIRE.
Post by: Diane Heddon on Wednesday 22 February 17 11:25 GMT (UK)
Diane -   This is a link to the thread you mentioned http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=590484.msg6176918#msg6176918

To look at previous posts click on your Profile (Summery)  at the top of the page. Then click on Show Posts.   Someone else might know a quicker way

Kay
Thats very kind of you Kay, thank you.I get a bit lost around the place even though I read all the help info; very sorry, thanks again Diane.