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Hi,If anyone has spare time could you try to help with this please?I have here Thomas Henry Mcdonald he married Alice Goss Alice's father was John Goss.His Father was Henry Goss who it seems they may all have lived in Sebastopol street, Danygraig Swansea Unfortunely these are the only Goss links of which I have no dates, but there could be some light shed around the 1870/1940's certs, JohnGoss married Mary Kneath they had 5 children,' William Goss is the one I am trying to follow up with desperately. 'Also there are Beatrice, Hellen/Ellen? and Louisa!Neither my friend and cousin or I can find the name of ' Henry Goss mother.'or parents at all. Sorry I do not have exact dates on this family. thanking you Diane.
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Some hints as to years would be helpful?
The first marriage was:
December qtr 1925
Swansea Registration District vol 11a, page 1896
Goss, Alice M
McDonald, James T H
Alice's birth?
September qtr 1904
Swansea Registration District vol 11a, page 1060
Goss, Alice Maud
(But there are also Alice Maud Goss births in 1900 and 1909! :-\)
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Using the new GRO Search facilty (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates):
(You have to register, but it's free!)
GOSS, ALICE MAUD KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 1060
GOSS, WILLIAM HENRY KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 1029
GOSS, ELLEN HELENA KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 1154
GOSS, MARY LOUISA KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1911 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 2159
Beatrice was born before the marriage!
KNEATH, BEATRICE MAY - (usually indicating an illegitimate birth)
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 997
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John and Mary's marriage here
Marriages Mar 1902
Goss John Swansea 11a 1329
Kneath Mary Swansea 11a 1329
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An Anc tree lists son William as born 1906 as William Henry Goss and gives a death of him as 1918
having added a correction to the below record to William Henry Goss :-\
William E Goss Age 12
Dec Qtr 1918 Swansea Vol 11a Page 1771
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Hi,If anyone has spare time could you try to help with this please?I have here Thomas Henry Mcdonald he married Alice Goss Alice's father was John Goss.His Father was Henry Goss who it seems they may all have lived in Sebastopol street, Danygraig Swansea Unfortunely these are the only Goss links of which I have no dates, but there could be some light shed around the 1870/1940's certs, JohnGoss married Mary Kneath they had 5 children,' William Goss is the one I am trying to follow up with desperately. 'Also there are Beatrice, Hellen/Ellen? and Louisa!Neither my friend and cousin or I can find the name of ' Henry Goss mother.'or parents at all. Sorry I do not have exact dates on this family. thanking you Diane.
Using the new GRO Search facilty (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates):
(You have to register, but it's free!)
GOSS, ALICE MAUD KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 1060
GOSS, WILLIAM HENRY KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 1029
GOSS, ELLEN HELENA KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 1154
GOSS, MARY LOUISA KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1911 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 2159
Beatrice was born before the marriage!
KNEATH, BEATRICE MAY - (usually indicating an illegitimate birth)
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 997
John and Mary's marriage here
Marriages Mar 1902
Goss John Swansea 11a 1329
Kneath Mary Swansea 11a 1329
Hi,If anyone has spare time could you try to help with this please?I have here Thomas Henry Mcdonald he married Alice Goss Alice's father was John Goss.His Father was Henry Goss who it seems they may all have lived in Sebastopol street, Danygraig Swansea Unfortunely these are the only Goss links of which I have no dates, but there could be some light shed around the 1870/1940's certs, JohnGoss married Mary Kneath they had 5 children,' William Goss is the one I am trying to follow up with desperately. 'Also there are Beatrice, Hellen/Ellen? and Louisa!Neither my friend and cousin or I can find the name of ' Henry Goss mother.'or parents at all. Sorry I do not have exact dates on this family. thanking you Diane.
Some hints as to years would be helpful?
The first marriage was:
December qtr 1925
Swansea Registration District vol 11a, page 1896
Goss, Alice M
McDonald, James T H
Alice's birth?
September qtr 1904
Swansea Registration District vol 11a, page 1060
Goss, Alice Maud
(But there are also Alice Maud Goss births in 1900 and 1909! :-\)
gee thank youGarrad i was not expecting to be helped around this..especially so soon.many thanks Diane.
Hi,If anyone has spare time could you try to help with this please?I have here Thomas Henry Mcdonald he married Alice Goss Alice's father was John Goss.His Father was Henry Goss who it seems they may all have lived in Sebastopol street, Danygraig Swansea Unfortunely these are the only Goss links of which I have no dates, but there could be some light shed around the 1870/1940's certs, JohnGoss married Mary Kneath they had 5 children,' William Goss is the one I am trying to follow up with desperately. 'Also there are Beatrice, Hellen/Ellen? and Louisa!Neither my friend and cousin or I can find the name of ' Henry Goss mother.'or parents at all. Sorry I do not have exact dates on this family. thanking you Diane.
right i will remember and place this all in my files now..[smiles from across the waves] and those 2 dates too!
Many thanks girl guide! regards Diane.
Thank you Kay,and Garrad very much as I gor lost around all my john goss'es....
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1901 census
Class: RG13; Piece: 5079; Folio: 120; Page: 27
23 Sebastapol Street, Swansea
Goss, Henry Head M Widower 66 House Carpenter b Georgeham, Devon
Goss, Helena Daughter F 38 Charwoman b Georgeham, Devon
Goss, Thomas Son M 29 Dock Labourer (Iron Ore) b Swansea
Goss, John Son M 27 Dock Labourer (Iron Ore) b Swansea
Goss, William Grandson M 10 b Swansea
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Using the new GRO Search facilty (https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates):
(You have to register, but it's free!)
GOSS, ALICE MAUD KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 1060
GOSS, WILLIAM HENRY KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 1029
GOSS, ELLEN HELENA KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 1154
GOSS, MARY LOUISA KNEATH
GRO Reference: 1911 D Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 2159
Beatrice was born before the marriage!
KNEATH, BEATRICE MAY - (usually indicating an illegitimate birth)
GRO Reference: 1902 M Quarter in SWANSEA Volume 11A Page 997
An Anc tree lists son William as born 1906 as William Henry Goss and gives a death of him as 1918
having added a correction to the below record to William Henry Goss :-\
William E Goss Age 12
Dec Qtr 1918 Swansea Vol 11a Page 1771
many many thanks ..Kay i am a cat lover..luv u pic...Diane.
thanks will jot down the site to look at as well. Diane
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Possible marriage of Beatrice M Goss to Daniel Thomas
Dec Qtr 1921 Swansea Vol 11a Page 2180
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Can't see John Goss in the 1891 census, but in 1881:
Class: RG11; Piece: 5355; Folio: 118; Page: 48
31 Jersey Street, Swansea, Glamorgan
Goss, Henry M 49 Joiner b Georgeham, Devon
Goss, Sarah Wife F 42 b Heanton, Devon
Goss, William Son M 19 Blacksmith b Georgeham, Devon
Goss, Alice Mary Daughter F 14 Scholar b Llansamlet, Glamorgan
Goss, Thomas Son M 9 Scholar b Swansea
Goss, John Son M 8 Scholar b Swansea
Goss, George Son M 5 Scholar b Swansea
Goss, Beatrice Daughter F 3 b Swansea
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Henry is with his widowed mother, Ann, in 1861, and an apprentice living out of home in 1851.
So, 1841 census
Class: HO107; Piece: 204; Book: 8; Folio: 5; Page: 5
Georgeham Town, Georgeham, Devon
Goss, William M 30 Blacksmith
Goss, Ann F 35
Goss, John M 12
Goss, Ann F 10
Goss, William M 8
Goss, Henry M 7
Goss, Thomas M 4
Goss, Harriott F 2
Goss, Mary F 2 months All born in county (Devon)
The 1841 census should round all adult ages (15 and over) down to a multiple of 5 years.
No relationships are given
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1851 -John Goss and family living in Georgeham, Devon?? Except father
as all born Georgeham Devon
William Goss 47 Blacksmith b Mawton Devon
Ann Goss 49
John Goss 22 Balcksmith
Ann Goss 20
William Goss 18 Blacksmith
Thomas Goss 14
Hariott Goss 12
Mary Ann Goss 10
Thomas Goss 6 Months
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William & Ann's marriage will be before the onset of Civil Registration, so you will need Parish Registers for their marriage?
But birth Registrations:
GOSS, HARRIETT BUTLER
GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION Volume 10 Page 37
GOSS, MARY ANN BUTLER
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in BARNSTAPLE UNION Volume 10 Page 28
Giving Mother's Maiden Name as Butler.
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There is a John Goss born 1879 Swansea in the 1881 census, parents Henry and Mary. Siblings James, William and Elizabeth. Address is 5, Miers Street, Swansea St Thomas, Swansea
It may be best to obtain the marriage cert for John to Mary Kneath to ascertain John's age and his father's name and occupation.
Although with both father's called Henry could prove a little troublesome! Perhaps witnesses on the marriage cert may clarify matters.
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Possible marriage of Beatrice M Goss to Daniel Thomas
Dec Qtr 1921 Swansea Vol 11a Page 2180
Hi Kay I just recieved a message from Pedro, cannot finf the page again. I did as was advised to click onto the blue writing at the end of the post. to hopefully get all' my posts easily accessed onto one page' is this possible? I have been down all help lists...regards Diane.
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Diane - This is a link to the thread you mentioned http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=590484.msg6176918#msg6176918
To look at previous posts click on your Profile (Summery) at the top of the page. Then click on Show Posts. Someone else might know a quicker way
Kay
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Diane - This is a link to the thread you mentioned http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=590484.msg6176918#msg6176918
To look at previous posts click on your Profile (Summery) at the top of the page. Then click on Show Posts. Someone else might know a quicker way
Kay
Thats very kind of you Kay, thank you.I get a bit lost around the place even though I read all the help info; very sorry, thanks again Diane.