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Title: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: grahamd15 on Thursday 29 June 17 05:00 BST (UK)
I'm trying to find more information about John Cecil Waldron's parents and siblings as I've hit a dead end here. He was born in about 1869 and his death certificate states he was born "at sea". His parents names were Francis and Ellen, the death certificate states that Francis was a contractor. It is about Francis and Ellen that I cannot find anything!

According to the death certificate he spent 41 years in Victoria and unknown periods of time in WA and NSW. He married Emily Norwood Watson in WA in 1897 and had 8 children, 3 in WA and the rest in Victoria.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 29 June 17 05:32 BST (UK)
You would be better off getting the marriage certificate as death certs are sometimes a work of fiction.  You would also get his mother's maiden surname if he knew what it was.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: grahamd15 on Thursday 29 June 17 06:06 BST (UK)
Thanks, I'll look into it!
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: Aussie1947 on Thursday 29 June 17 11:31 BST (UK)
Hi,

John Cecil Waldron enlisted into the 1st AIF during WW1 and his digitised record can downloaded on the Australian National Archives site.

No 7579 14th Battalion.

When he enlisted on 17th July 1917 he stated that he was 44 and 9/12 years old and born in Melbourne.

http://www.naa.gov.au/

Gerry

Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: giblet on Friday 30 June 17 00:40 BST (UK)
Who was the informant on his death cert? They possibly could have his parents names wrong.

I did find this but cant find anything to confirm or eliminate it.

John Cecil Waldron (Hairdresser) b. Germany 1867 d. Royal Park, Vic 1945 m. Emily Watson
(7 children).

http://www.walhalla.org.au/news/People/1111W.pdf
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: Aussie1947 on Friday 30 June 17 02:18 BST (UK)

Nice find,

Looks like the correct person.

John was a hairdresser in Fremantle and Kalgoorlie before moving to Walhalla where he went broke in 1911.  Enlisted in 1917 as a hairdresser but put Melbourne down as his place of birth which is understandable, if he put Germany he would have been rejected.

Maybe he came from Germany as a young man and disembarked in Fremantle.

Gerry
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: giblet on Friday 30 June 17 10:41 BST (UK)
National archives Australia
John Cecil Waldron - Service Number 7579 - Grant of furniture loan
date range 1922 - 1923

"Grantee and his wife separated two years ago..."

I was wondering if there was a divorce maybe it might have more background info on him such as where he was from or a mention of another family member, sibling etc.
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: rosball on Friday 30 June 17 12:51 BST (UK)
Good thinking giblet. :)

Divorce https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/1219455

I could photograph this for you next time I am there if you wish

Ros
adding : It should have a marriage certificate which will give his version of his parents
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: giblet on Friday 30 June 17 18:48 BST (UK)

Divorce https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/item/1219455

I could photograph this for you next time I am there if you wish

Ros
adding : It should have a marriage certificate which will give his version of his parents

Hi Ros, there are 2 John Cecil Waldron's and the one on the link is the wrong fella.
The fella we are chasing was married to Emily Waldron nee Watson and they separated around 1920 -1923.
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: rosball on Friday 30 June 17 22:19 BST (UK)
Oh thanks giblet - I should have read the thread more thoroughly  :-[   
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: JamesWaldron on Sunday 12 November 17 07:48 GMT (UK)
Hi grahamd15,
John Cecil Waldron was my great grandfather but unfortunately I have not been able to uncover any more information than you have provided.
My father believes that the family surname was changed to Waldron from Stein or Steino but does not know at what stage ( obviously before the marriage in 1897)

If you do find more information about his parents or if he had siblings, I would like to know
Thanks
James
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: grahamd15 on Sunday 12 November 17 11:54 GMT (UK)
Hi James,
Why does your father believe that the name was changed from Stein/Steino?
I'll let you know if I can find anything!
Thanks
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: JamesWaldron on Sunday 12 November 17 18:32 GMT (UK)
Hi, this is only from verbal history, I am unaware of any records
Good luck
Title: Re: John Cecil Waldron and family
Post by: mollipops1 on Thursday 14 December 17 06:38 GMT (UK)
Not sure if you are aware that you can now order an uncertified copy of a WA bdm certificate for A$20. This is a copy of the certificate but cannot be used for legal purposes - but perfectly fine for family history!

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/U/uncertified_copies.aspx?uid=1003-4731-8003-7880

I think this may be worth it for the WA marriage, may hold valuable clues.