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Title: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: skirl on Saturday 01 July 17 00:00 BST (UK)
John Robinson, wife Fanny Ann [nee McKinley] Robinson, their children and other family members arrived in Ontario from Donegal, Ireland in 1883. Fanny Ann [nee McKinley] Robinson most likely died around the age of 33 soon after arriving in Ontario, ca. 1883-1885. Over the years, the family lived in Chatham & Charing Cross in Kent County and Windsor in Essex County. Would anyone know how I would find the death information for Fanny Ann [nee McKinley] Robinson?
 
I have received a lot of assistance in researching this family from some wonderful Rootschatters over the years. The background to this can be seen at:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=350122.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=669046.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=758025.msg6082476#msg6082476
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: polarbear on Saturday 01 July 17 16:17 BST (UK)
Is there any chance Fanny was a nickname? I have found this late 1883 death for a Margaret Robinson age 33 in Essex Ontario. No parents listed, unfortunately.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9B9-XRRK

Anyway, food for thought.

PB
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: skirl on Saturday 01 July 17 17:16 BST (UK)
Thanks PB but that's not her. However, you got me thinking & I found a death for a Robinson woman who is listed without a given name that is a possibility:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9B9-XFN8?cc=1307826

Can I go any further on this death record?
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: polarbear on Saturday 01 July 17 19:52 BST (UK)
Gosh, I don't think there is much more you can do with that record. You might try tracing the informant and see if you can find any kind of a comnnection. And 'A J' Robinson doesn't help much, either.

You can search through this link for possible burials. There is a Robinson with a ? And one as just F which may or may not be relevant. There is info at the website about how to obtain more info from this index.

http://ocfa.islandnet.com

PB
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: skirl on Sunday 02 July 17 00:23 BST (UK)
Thanks for the tip PB. Found the 2 burials you mentioned. I'll follow up with the Essex County branch of the OGS.
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Tuesday 04 July 17 09:09 BST (UK)
Is it possible Fanny returned to Ireland with the 2 youngest children? Is there any family story on how Margaret and Andrew came back to Ireland - someone must have traveled with them.

Jacquie
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: skirl on Wednesday 05 July 17 13:17 BST (UK)
PB: I checked with the people at the OCFA & the 2 Robinson deaths that you found were not my Fanny Robinson.

Jacquie: I understand that there are records of incoming but not outgoing ships to/from Canada, so I cannot check shipping records to see if Fanny Robinson returned to Ireland. Is that correct? I checked death information in Ireland for Fanny Robinson but nothing turned up there.

This is a long shot but the shipping records show that Fanny Robinson boarded the ship to Canada but I believe that it doesn't necessarily mean that she arrived in Canada. Could she have died at sea & if so, how could I look this up?
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: polarbear on Wednesday 05 July 17 13:29 BST (UK)
Using other records I have seen as an example, I believe if she had died at sea that it would have been noted on the relevant passenger manifest.

PB
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: polarbear on Wednesday 05 July 17 14:47 BST (UK)
We all know we should be careful with these but there is a tree on Anc* connected to Andrew Robinson that indicates Fanny Ann died in Donegal Ireland in 1889. The transcription record they have attached gives the name as Anne Robinson so not necessarily your Fanny Ann. I don't know anything about Irish records....is an original record available that might have more info?

It would make sense, however, that Fanny went back to Ireland with the younger children (surely someone had to accompany them). Perhaps she just didn't want to stay in Canada and she and John separated?

If you have an Anc* sub you might try contacting the tree holder.

Anyway, more food for thought.

PB
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: skirl on Thursday 06 July 17 00:09 BST (UK)
Thanks for another good tip. I've messaged the tree holder & I'll let you know how I make out.
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: Jacquie in Canada on Saturday 08 July 17 12:00 BST (UK)
This is a long shot but the shipping records show that Fanny Robinson boarded the ship to Canada but I believe that it doesn't necessarily mean that she arrived in Canada. Could she have died at sea & if so, how could I look this up?

The incoming Canadian passenger list has Fanny listed with her family arriving in Quebec on 25 Jun 1883. Here's a copy of the page they are on from Library and Archives Canada (bottom of page):
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kda/ (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kda/)

There are only incoming Canadian passenger lists available - no outgoing. 

Jacquie
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: skirl on Sunday 09 July 17 12:55 BST (UK)
Thanks Jacquie
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: manawakian on Tuesday 11 July 17 22:17 BST (UK)
A Fanny Robinson, age 57 arrived at Liverpool from Montraeal on 27 Aug 1910 aboard the Lake Manitoba.  She was accompanied by Mary Robinson, age 24.
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: skirl on Wednesday 12 July 17 00:00 BST (UK)
Thanks manawakian but Fanny Robinson had passed by then as her widowed husband remarried in 1891.
Title: Re: Robinson & McKinley in Ontario
Post by: skirl on Thursday 20 July 17 15:02 BST (UK)
Followed up with the tree holder on ancestry, obtained the death cert from Ireland, & the information on ancestry was incorrect: Anne Robinson is not the Fanny Anne McKinley Robinson that I am looking for. The search for Fanny Anne continues...