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Title: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: LianneY on Monday 07 August 17 10:34 BST (UK)
I'm looking to find out where Samuel Young died and maybe apply for his death certificate.
He was born to parents John and Janet Young in Prestwich in 1905.
He then married Mary Owen in Manchester 1927.
I believe they had 3 daughters.
Lianne
Title: Re: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 August 17 10:41 BST (UK)
He was born 1906

Birth   1 Feb 1906
Baptism    14 Feb 1906    Newton Heath, St Augustine,
Father   John Young
Mother   Janet Young
Title: Re: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: LianneY on Monday 07 August 17 11:24 BST (UK)
Thank you Rosie. This is why it's always worth re-checking info. His date on marriage certificate does actually suggest he was in fact born in 1906.
:-)
Title: Re: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 August 17 11:35 BST (UK)
I posted the birth date as sometimes it is mentioned on the death registration but I can't see it. I think he may be on the prewar register born 1908 so he may have a wrong year at death depending on when the informant thought he was born  ::)
Title: Re: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: LianneY on Monday 07 August 17 11:39 BST (UK)
And why I've had little luck. I do have possible marriages of one of his daughters. I think I may have to send away for their marriage certificates and hope he is still alive and named on them. May be a long, costly process.... :-(
Title: Re: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 August 17 12:00 BST (UK)
Marriage certificates are not a reliable source regarding 'dead' fathers, the question is not routinely asked by the clergy.

Just eliminating
Samuel Young
BIRTH:    abt 1906
DEATH:    Dec 1963 - Leigh, Lancashire, England
Probate for this one was to Ada Young widow
Title: Re: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: LianneY on Monday 07 August 17 12:08 BST (UK)
I'm just looking through some things, but I can't find Ada Young. It's possible thought hat he may have married twice?
He definitely married Mary Owen in 1927. The address and fathers name on the marriage certificate confirms this.
Title: Re: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: heatherjulie on Monday 07 August 17 12:53 BST (UK)
Doing a free search on the 1939 list, the nearest Samuel Youngs to Manchester are
Stockport and Crewe
Title: Re: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 August 17 12:58 BST (UK)
Doing a free search on the 1939 list, the nearest Samuel Youngs to Manchester are
Stockport and Crewe

Doing the same with birthdate 1 feb 1906 =/- 2 gives one result Manchester CB with year 1908
Mary Young and 1 more person are on this record
2 more people who are officially closed
Title: Re: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: LianneY on Monday 07 August 17 13:23 BST (UK)
Wonder if Stockport and Crewe were military areas?
I've not come across the match with Mary Young.
Where is Manchester CB?
Title: Re: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 07 August 17 13:36 BST (UK)
Manchester CB (County Borough) was the enumeration district
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/articles/1939-register-enumeration-districts
Title: Re: Samuel Young Mary Owen married 1927 Manchester
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 07 August 17 13:49 BST (UK)
Doing a free search on the 1939 list, the nearest Samuel Youngs to Manchester are
Stockport and Crewe

Doing the same with birthdate 1 feb 1906 =/- 2 gives one result Manchester CB with year 1908
Mary Young and 1 more person are on this record
2 more people who are officially closed

A bit of trial and error with the three daughters names should tell you which daughter had died before they stopped updating the register, and which two are possibly still alive