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Title: Edward McBay Master Butcher Johnshaven
Post by: McBaymartin on Sunday 08 October 17 20:59 BST (UK)
Hi - looking for any information on the McBay butcher family from Johnshaven - my grandfather was Edward McBay (master butcher) and my father (also Edward and butcher). My father passed away aged 52 (1990). Don't  have much more information on my family tree also. X 
Title: Re: Edward McBay Master Butcher Johnshaven
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 08 October 17 21:04 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat

I have asked the moderator to move your post to the Kincardineshire board

Re: your grandfather - when was he born and when did he die?

If he is the Edward McBay who died in 1980 aged 80 - his mothers maiden name was Cuggie

I suspect your father was born in 1938 Kincardineshire per Scotlands People.  His death reg shows your grandmothers maiden name was Blues
Title: Re: Edward McBay Master Butcher Johnshaven
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 08 October 17 21:18 BST (UK)
Edward McBay married Martha Blues in 1933 Benholm as per SP

A Martha Mackie Blues was born 1913 Benholm - see SP 

www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records

A Martha Ritchie McBay b 1914 died 2005 Edinburgh but SP shows a birth for a Martha Ritchie Blues in 1884 Benholm

Your fathers death was registered Inverbervie which is Kincardineshire - not Aberdeen
Title: Re: Edward McBay Master Butcher Johnshaven
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 08 October 17 21:25 BST (UK)
From Carole's info, possible marriage for parents:

James McBay and Isabella Criggie married in Bervie or Inverbervie district in 1898.

Likely 1901 entry for the family. Everyone showing as born in Bervie except James McBay:

James Mcbay 28 fisherman b. Benholm, Kincardine
Isabella Mcbay 24
Isabella Mcbay 2
Edward Mcbay 8 months

Address: Queen Street, Bervie

Monica 

PS: Welcome to RootsChat  :)
Title: Re: Edward McBay Master Butcher Johnshaven
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 08 October 17 21:47 BST (UK)
Good for you to be able to check key details on your direct line. I think you will find the McBays from these areas are well researched and lots of details available online. For this reason, you need to check on Scotlands People and get the key names/dates to help you work back with confidence. There are a numer of researchers here on RootsChat with an interest in McBay from these areas and period, see:

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=404371.0
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=498513.0

For James, there is this possible birth indexed herehttps://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY1Z-2HS

If we are correct with the names of James McBay and Isabella Criggie for Edward's parents, there is also this possible data on James:

3 Edward McBay b: 1848 d: 1 Oct 1931
          + Georgina Waiter b: 5 Nov 1853 d: 15 Jan 1937
            4 James McBay b: 4 Nov 1872
              + Isabella Criggie b: Abt 1879
                5 Georgina Waiter McBay b: 30 Oct 1903
            4 Bell Mearns McBay b: 28 Oct 1874 d: 13 Jan 1960
              + James Ritchie b: 31 Dec 1869 d: 28 Mar 1955
            4 Edward McBay b: 1 Nov 1876
            4 Alexander McBay b: 17 Nov 1878
            4 William McBay b: 28 May 1881
            4 Margaret Waiter McBay b: 23 Nov 1883
            4 John McBay b: 23 Nov 1883
            4 Georgina McBay b: 4 Nov 1886 d: 20 Oct 1964
            4 Robert Whitby McBay b: 2 Jan 1889
            4 Ann Cuthbert McBay b: 1 Dec 1890
              + Joseph Taylor Renny b: 2 May 1891
            4 Elizabeth Ann McBay b: 13 Nov 1893
            4 Charlotte Taylor McBay b: 19 Jan 1896 d: 20 Sep 1987

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=johnstrachantree&id=I906

For Isabella Criggie, there is data available to check such as www.ancestry.se/boards/localities.britisles.scotland.kcd.general/897.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx

Monica

Title: Re: Edward McBay Master Butcher Johnshaven
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 08 October 17 22:03 BST (UK)
Some family researchers have included the original image of the marriage for James McBay and Isabella Criggie. Parents as we are seeing. See clip from marriage register entry below:


Title: Edward McBay Master Butcher Johnshaven
Post by: McBaymartin on Sunday 08 October 17 22:38 BST (UK)
Hi - just joined - looking for information on my grandfather Edward McBay who married my grandmother Martha Blues in 1933.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Edward McBay Master Butcher Johnshaven
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 08 October 17 22:53 BST (UK)
From a pm - Edward McBay (grandfather) died 1981 aged 72

From his death reg - his mmn was Collie

Mary Jane Collie married Andrew Mowatt McBay in 1908  Bervie or Inverbervie

Andrew died 1947 aged 65 so born approx 1882

All info is available on Scotlands People.  The index is free to search yourself (you have to register which is also free)  If you want to download any certs - you have to buy credits

Downloads of certs are only available as follows:

Statutory registers of births (older than 100 years)

Marriages (older than 75 years)

Deaths (older than 50 years)  - all cost 6 credits (£1.50)
Title: Re: Edward McBay Master Butcher Johnshaven
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 08 October 17 23:01 BST (UK)

Threads merged , moved to Kincardineshire.
Title: Re: Edward McBay Master Butcher Johnshaven
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 09 October 17 14:07 BST (UK)
As always, good to work with the facts.

Also from http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=johnstrachantree&id=I906 as already linked, you have:

4 Edward McBay b: 26 Nov 1848 c: 3 Dec 1848 d: 7 Feb 1931
              + Martha Alexander c: 20 Jan 1850 d: 9 Oct 1936
                5 Robert Alexander McBay b: 9 May 1869 d: Abt 1950
                5 John McBay b: 28 Aug 1871 d: 31 Dec 1957
                  + Ann L. Andrew b: 23 Oct 1874 d: 12 Jun 1899
                    6 Margaret Watt McBay b: 23 Dec 1898
                      + David Longmuir b: 15 Sep 1895
                5 James Alexander McBay b: 28 Aug 1871 d: 29 Jan 1872
                5 Mary Ann McBay b: 3 Sep 1872 d: 19 Nov 1957
                5 Edward McBay b: 28 Jan 1875 d: 1975
                  + Mary Helen West b: Abt 1879
                    6 Catherine Mearns McBay b: 3 Oct 1903
                5 David Davidson McBay b: 2 Jan 1878 d: 23 Jul 1900
                5 Alexander McBay b: 26 Feb 1880
                5 Andrew Mowatt McBay b: Abt 1882 d: Abt 1947
                5 Catherine Findlay McBay b: 23 Sep 1884 d: 23 Nov 1889
                5 Richard Davidson McBay b: Abt 1886
                  + Isabella Taylor b: 29 May 1887
                    6 Torquil or Tapprale Murray Davidson McBay b: 15 Sep 1916 d: 1984
                    6 Francis John McBay b: 18 Jun 1920 d: 1982
                    6 Jessie Christine Isabella McBay b: 29 Sep 1924 d: 1999
                      + David Nicoll b: Jun 1922 d: Mar 1999
                    6 Cecil McBay b: 16 Aug 1927
                5 William Davidson McBay b: 24 Mar 1889
                  + Mary Murray Middleton b: 2 Mar 1894
                5 Catherine Findlay McBay b: Abt 1891 d: Abt 1984
                5 Margaret Gove McBay b: 9 Jun 1893 d: 11 Dec 1894

Monica
Title: Re: Edward McBay Master Butcher Johnshaven
Post by: MonicaL on Monday 09 October 17 14:18 BST (UK)
Lots of details here too www.rootschat.com/links/01kur/ on both the Blue and McBay families....and others.

Monica