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Title: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: nsledden on Monday 23 October 17 18:37 BST (UK)
Good evening all I was hoping some kind person could help me I'm trying to find out as much info on family member as I can who served in the boer war he was
5398 PTE J POLLARD EAST LANCS REG
HE was from Accrington and is listed as living at 15 oak street Accrington at the time of his enlistment I think in 1897  aged 18years and 1 month but that's all I know any help would be great about his war service or family info ect I don't have access to any subscription sites as yet and was hoping some of you could please help on my quest
All the best
Nathan
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 23 October 17 18:54 BST (UK)
Do you know what the J stands for ?

Jennifer
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Mary8 on Monday 23 October 17 19:04 BST (UK)
How did you come by the information you have?

Mary :)
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Mary8 on Monday 23 October 17 19:17 BST (UK)
Taken from the Accrington pals website (http://www.pals.org.uk/honour/honour_nr.htm)

POLLARD, Pte. John, 15824 (11th Bn., East Lancs. Regt.); lived at 8 Ormerod Street or 78 Royd Street, Accrington; k.i.a. 1st July 1916; comm. Thiepval Memorial.

Could his service number & address been changed at some point?

Mary :)
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Mary8 on Monday 23 October 17 19:32 BST (UK)
The John Pollard i posted , has a listing on ancestry for "Soldiers effects" his mother as Jane Pollard.

Mary :)
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Mary8 on Monday 23 October 17 19:41 BST (UK)
You could try this forum as they seem to be researching Accrington men world war one.  Link (http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f124/world-war-1-a-45609.html)

Mary :)
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: willyam on Monday 23 October 17 19:45 BST (UK)
Nathan,

A "Military" search on Findmypast using the surname of POLLARD & his soldier number of 5398 reveals a detailed army service record for John Richard POLLARD.

Willyam
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Monday 23 October 17 19:56 BST (UK)
The John Pollard mentioned by Mary is also shown on the Commonwealth War Graves Site.

That is a free site --- shows where soldiers who were killed in action are buried and is searchable. https://www.cwgc.org/

However this really depends on whether this is your ancestor. It you have his first name look at another free site
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

This will show you births, marriages and deaths for Lancashire and will provide his mother's maiden name. You should then find his parents marriage.

Transcribed census records are available on Family Search -- again free.

Lancashire Parish records you can find on http://www.lan-opc.org.uk ----- again a free site.

However you really need to provide his first name if you can and then we know whether we are looking at the correct soldier's records.

(I see that Willyam may just have found the correct person - but the sites I have mentioned are useful for future reference)

Also there is an 'Accrington Web' discussion Forum -- free but you will need to register. What they don't know on there about the East Lancs Regiment and Accy soldiers is not worth knowing!

http://www.accringtonweb.com

 
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: nsledden on Monday 23 October 17 19:59 BST (UK)
Thank you both very much as I say I have no access to find my past or ancestry , I would be very interested to see the service papers , , and also to find out if he appears on any censuses , as to where I got the details I have , I have recently located his medals and have purchased them for a dealer and brought them home to Accrington
Atb and thanks so far
Nathan

P.s his forename is john
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 23 October 17 20:09 BST (UK)
Hi if he is the John Richard Pollard b Dec qtr 1878 Haslingden his mother's maiden name was Thornley
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Monday 23 October 17 20:43 BST (UK)
The soldier found by Willyam - John Richard Pollard -- his birthdate was 1.12.1878 and his address on Army records was in Rossendale, so maybe that's the one you have found Keyboard-- but I am not sure if it's the same person unfortunately.

If his name was recorded on army papers as John Richard -- you would think it would have BOTH initials on his medals wouldn't you? I am no expert though on military medals.
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Mary8 on Monday 23 October 17 21:04 BST (UK)
Out of interest, why would you buy someones medals who wasn't related to you?
Most main libraries in towns have free access to either FindMyPast or Ancestry, you may have to book to use the computer service at the library and so i would phone first.

Mary :)
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Monday 23 October 17 21:06 BST (UK)
OK -- looking at his papers he enlisted on 29/4/1897 and was aged 18 years 1 month at that point.

He was a Collier with a mother named Alice Ann who lived at 15 Oak St Accrington.

He WAS John Richard, with a service number of 5398 in 1897. He did say he was born in Accrington - but interestingly he had a step sister whose name MAY be Emily Busburn (difficult to decipher). She was in an Industrial School in Liverpool -- but that surname may help (if it's the correct surname).

So if his age was correct when he joined - he was born in about March 1879 (is that right?!!) - but I cannot see a John Richard Pollard born at that time.

Think this needs some tracking backwards.
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 23 October 17 21:54 BST (UK)
According to a tree on line there is an Alice Ann Pollard in Accrington with a daughter Emily Durbin and a son John Richard Cameron Durbin Pollard!

Jennifer
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 23 October 17 21:59 BST (UK)
 :) That looks like the family in 1881 with a John Richard C DURBIN aged 4 b Accrington?
Census Ref RG11/4141/95/43
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 23 October 17 21:59 BST (UK)
They seem to be under the name Durbin in the 1881 census with a Jane Pollard 64 at 38 Bank Street Accrington.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 23 October 17 22:15 BST (UK)
Hi that birth registration is shown as:-

John Richard Cameron TURBIN  Pollard March qtr 1877 Haslingden v 8e page 202 No mothers maiden name on GRO Index
Keyboard86

EDIT Emily is registered as a Durbin mmn Pollard
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Finley 1 on Monday 23 October 17 22:20 BST (UK)
Haven't read all the replies etc... just noticed the name Pollard 
So read a few and then when I saw it was Accrington, guessed it wasnt MY Pollards..

But then saw Royde Street and my OH's family lived in Royde Street Accrington.1901. number 37 - sorry to butt in :) 


 ;)

xin
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 23 October 17 22:28 BST (UK)
St James Accrington 23/5/1880 borm 10/5/1880 Bapt.
Emily Durbin parents Alice Ann & John Cameron Durbin - Stone Mason address 30 Bank Street.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 23 October 17 22:34 BST (UK)
Hi again, as per Service record, Emily Durbin aged 10 is in an Industrial School in Liverpool
Census Ref RG12/2917/53/44
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: jennifer c on Monday 23 October 17 22:36 BST (UK)
Alice married John 9/12/1878 aged 21 , so John Pollard was born before they were married, but his fathers names were shown when he was registered.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: nsledden on Tuesday 24 October 17 09:29 BST (UK)
Out of interest, why would you buy someones medals who wasn't related to you?
Most main libraries in towns have free access to either FindMyPast or Ancestry, you may have to book to use the computer service at the library and so i would phone first.

Mary :)

Hi Mary if you read my o/p you will see I haven't purchased medals to someone who is not related to me , he is related to me I just wasn't sure whereabouts in the family tree he was I have now established from records I have kept from previous research he is in fact my great grand fathers cousin , I origionally thought them to be brothers but it looks to be they where cousins
Thanks all for you help
Nathan
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 24 October 17 10:59 BST (UK)
Well this has come on in leaps and bounds since I closed down last night.

Great teamwork folks! Well done.
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: willyam on Tuesday 24 October 17 16:14 BST (UK)
Nathan,

A "Military" search on Findmypast using the surname of POLLARD & his soldier number of 5398 reveals a detailed army service record for John Richard POLLARD.

Willyam

Nathan,

Also in Findmypast is a record of his original attestation to the East Lancs militia on 18 February 1897, with his soldier number then being 7334.

Additionally, there is a further record in respect of his re-enlistment on 11 December 1915 as Gunner no. 214263 in the Royal Field Artillery.

Willyam
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: nsledden on Tuesday 24 October 17 17:24 BST (UK)
Nathan,

A "Military" search on Findmypast using the surname of POLLARD & his soldier number of 5398 reveals a detailed army service record for John Richard POLLARD.

Willyam

Nathan,

Also in Findmypast is a record of his original attestation to the East Lancs militia on 18 February 1897, with his soldier number then being 7334.

Additionally, there is a further record in respect of his re-enlistment on 11 December 1915 as Gunner no. 214263 in the Royal Field Artillery.

Willyam

Thanks for your help but I think they are different ment the artilleryman was born 1881 ?
Thanks again
Nathan
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 24 October 17 18:30 BST (UK)
Taken from the Accrington pals website (http://www.pals.org.uk/honour/honour_nr.htm)

POLLARD, Pte. John, 15824 (11th Bn., East Lancs. Regt.); lived at 8 Ormerod Street or 78 Royd Street, Accrington; k.i.a. 1st July 1916; comm. Thiepval Memorial.

Could his service number & address been changed at some point?

Mary :)

Hi again, did you research this John, ( although his mother appears from his effects to have been a Jane) and also how did the John Richard end up as a cousin?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 24 October 17 19:01 BST (UK)
He didn't die in action -- John Richard Durbin Pollard died in 1953 in the Sub Registration District of Accrington. He is the one who fought initially in the Boer War.

I thought this was the correct person -- is there some doubt now?
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 24 October 17 19:10 BST (UK)
 :) No their is no doubt that in the opinion of Nathan, this was a cousin, the John above I would  suggest was not part of the family Nathan is researching, just wondered who he was?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: nsledden on Tuesday 24 October 17 19:17 BST (UK)
He didn't die in action -- John Richard Durbin Pollard died in 1953 in the Sub Registration District of Accrington. He is the one who fought initially in the Boer War.

I thought this was the correct person -- is there some doubt now?

Hi no this is the correct man service number ect , I am curious as to wether he served during the First World War ect , and when I say cousin naturally not my direct cousin , but perhaps a cousin of my great grandfather David pollard who was from Accrington his wife was Annie charlotte and had a few kids Walter Richard pollard Kia 8/7/1917 also Emily Harriet pollard my maternal grandmother thanks again all this far
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 24 October 17 19:21 BST (UK)
They seem to be under the name Durbin in the 1881 census with a Jane Pollard 64 at 38 Bank Street Accrington.

Jennifer

So back to this census
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 24 October 17 19:39 BST (UK)
The John Pollard i posted , has a listing on ancestry for "Soldiers effects" his mother as Jane Pollard.

Mary :)

Just a note ☺
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 24 October 17 19:49 BST (UK)
Willyam -- the John Richard Pollard you found in World War 1 Records - isn't the correct one (the one which has service number 214263). The other 2 records you found (ie the Militia then the East Lancs both in 1897) --- ARE him though.

The WW1 one you found has a wife Mary A (nee Haworth actually) and came from Rossendale).

The correct John Richard Durbin (and whatever else!) Pollard - married Hannah Kemble in 1914 at Hyndburn Register Office ar at a Registrar attended marriage (Lancs BMD).

I cannot see an immediate service record for him in WW1 -- although it doesn't mean that he didn't serve of course.

He seems to have obtained his medals in the Boer War -- according to the Forces War Record Site -- unless Nathan -- you also have a WW1 medal for him.
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: nsledden on Tuesday 24 October 17 20:02 BST (UK)
Willyam -- the John Richard Pollard you found in World War 1 Records - isn't the correct one (the one which has service number 214263). The other 2 records you found (ie the Militia then the East Lancs both in 1897) --- ARE him though.

The WW1 one you found has a wife Mary A (nee Haworth actually) and came from Rossendale).

The correct John Richard Durbin (and whatever else!) Pollard - married Hannah Kemble in 1914 at Hyndburn Register Office ar at a Registrar attended marriage (Lancs BMD).

I cannot see an immediate service record for him in WW1 -- although it doesn't mean that he didn't serve of course.

He seems to have obtained his medals in the Boer War -- according to the Forces War Record Site -- unless Nathan -- you also have a WW1 medal for him.
thanks again for your reply it's very much appreciated , I do not have ww1 medals for him just the boer war , from a google search though I found that these medals where sold in 2006 at auction with other "family medals " those where ww1 medals but awarded to 6967 Pte j r pollard loyal north lancs regiment but these have been seperated it would appear
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 24 October 17 20:03 BST (UK)
Hi again, the Jane above in 1881 b Church is married in 1861 to a Reuben Pollard 32 with an Alice A Pollard aged 3 b Accrington
Census ref RG09/3062/128/78
The daughters in 1861 Catherine b c 1855  and Alice A b c 1858 have mmn Broderick
 
EDIT would love to know about the John who was killed in action 1916 mother Jane?
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 24 October 17 20:31 BST (UK)
Nathan -- I cannot see any surviving records for a WW1 soldier with a service number of 6967 I'm afraid -- unless I'm missing it.

Keyboard -- I realise you are searching backwards to prove 'cousinship' for Nathan -- I'm not ignoring it -- but was just concentrating on the soldier aspect at the moment.



Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Tuesday 24 October 17 20:38 BST (UK)

EDIT would love to know about the John who was killed in action 1916 mother Jane?

Was his service number 15824 East Lancs Regiment?
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 24 October 17 20:40 BST (UK)
Taken from the Accrington pals website (http://www.pals.org.uk/honour/honour_nr.htm)

POLLARD, Pte. John, 15824 (11th Bn., East Lancs. Regt.); lived at 8 Ormerod Street or 78 Royd Street, Accrington; k.i.a. 1st July 1916; comm. Thiepval Memorial.

Could his service number & address been changed at some point?

Mary :)

As per
Keyboard
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: willyam on Tuesday 24 October 17 21:23 BST (UK)
Willyam -- the John Richard Pollard you found in World War 1 Records - isn't the correct one (the one which has service number 214263). The other 2 records you found (ie the Militia then the East Lancs both in 1897) --- ARE him though.

The WW1 one you found has a wife Mary A (nee Haworth actually) and came from Rossendale).

The correct John Richard Durbin (and whatever else!) Pollard - married Hannah Kemble in 1914 at Hyndburn Register Office ar at a Registrar attended marriage (Lancs BMD).


I cannot see an immediate service record for him in WW1 -- although it doesn't mean that he didn't serve of course.

He seems to have obtained his medals in the Boer War -- according to the Forces War Record Site -- unless Nathan -- you also have a WW1 medal for him.

What caught my eye was that the date of birth for 214263 John Richard Pollard was 1 December 1878.

Also, he is in the 1939 Register.

Willyam
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 24 October 17 23:58 BST (UK)
Hi again, the Jane above in 1881 b Church is married in 1861 to a Reuben Pollard 32 with an Alice A Pollard aged 3 b Accrington
Census ref RG09/3062/128/78
The daughters in 1861 Catherine b c 1855  and Alice A b c 1858 have mmn Broderick
 
EDIT would love to know about the John who was killed in action 1916 mother Jane?

Going potty searching for the mother of John Richard Durbin Pollard, will give others a chance, believe as above her mother was Jane Broderick/Brodrick the daughter of George & Ann Broderick , daughter Alice Ann Pollard named after the sister of Jane
Why in 1871 is this family headed by a Richard Pollard confusing me?
Census ref RG10/4442/94/16
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Wednesday 25 October 17 19:33 BST (UK)
Willyam -- yes that Rossendale one is a nuisance. But the correct John Richard should have been born about March 1879.

I haven't checked this correspondence back - but I think his birth was found.
Re the 1939 -- I cannot see the correct one on that register actually, although I did see the Rossendale one.

Keyboard -- yes --- the one who was killed in action is on the Commonwealth War Graves site -- but apart from his grave site and date of death there is no other information.

The correct one has been confusing enough - think I may ignore these other 2!!

I've only just come back on line this evening, so haven't had time to look at the backwards research you have done (you may have to carry on going potty for a while!!)
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Wednesday 25 October 17 20:02 BST (UK)
Think I may just have found him in 1939.

John Richard Pollard and his wife Hannah Kemble MAY only have had one child -- a daughter Marion in 1915 in Accrington.

In 1939 -- a Marion Pollard (with name then changed to Jackson when she married) is with a John R Pollard - whose birth date is recorded as 4th March 1877 (but I think this should be 1879).

It looks like Marion married later that same year. Details are on Lancs BMD.

Address 139 Wellington St Accy. John is working at the Calico Print works (where many, many Accringtonians worked). He is shown as married but his wife is not present.

Nathan ---- John Richard's daughter, Marion MAY have had children and if so they would no doubt be interested in seeing his medals. You will be able to check if she and her husband did have children by checking Lancs BMD for births after 1939.

Just input the married surname only and also show HER maiden surname in the appropriate search field. (This is dependant on the couple having remained in Lancashire of course - also Marion's husband may have been away in WW2 following their marriage).
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: nsledden on Thursday 26 October 17 21:29 BST (UK)
This is very interesting guys and your efforts are greatly appreciated , is there any way of tracking back to establish whom john Richard pollards parents where ect or did he have any siblings ect

Thanks all again
Nathan
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Thursday 26 October 17 22:02 BST (UK)
:) That looks like the family in 1881 with a John Richard C DURBIN aged 4 b Accrington?
Census Ref RG11/4141/95/43
Keyboard86

Hi have you viewed this census at all?
Keyboard86

Wait a minute, are we now trying to locate the parents of a John Pollard b 1879?

The one above has mother Alice Ann and sister Emily Durbin?
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: nsledden on Friday 27 October 17 11:23 BST (UK)
:) That looks like the family in 1881 with a John Richard C DURBIN aged 4 b Accrington?
Census Ref RG11/4141/95/43
Keyboard86

Hi have you viewed this census at all?
Keyboard86

Wait a minute, are we now trying to locate the parents of a John Pollard b 1879?

The one above has mother Alice Ann and sister Emily Durbin?
if it was at all possible to locate his parents that's would be brilliant and interesting , way beyond my abilities though , so any help greatly appreciated :)

All the best nathan
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 27 October 17 13:05 BST (UK)
Alice married John 9/12/1878 aged 21 , so John Pollard was born before they were married, but his fathers names were shown when he was registered.

Jennifer

These are his parents?
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: nsledden on Friday 27 October 17 13:26 BST (UK)
Alice married John 9/12/1878 aged 21 , so John Pollard was born before they were married, but his fathers names were shown when he was registered.

Jennifer

These are his parents?
Keyboard86
Oh sorry I appear to have missed that one :) many thanks

Nathan
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Friday 27 October 17 13:54 BST (UK)
I agree that John Richard Pollard is confusing.

What seems to have happened is;

Soldier number 7334 enlisted in the Militia in February 1897 giving an age of 18. (This would give him a birth year of 1879).
Name John Richard Pollard.
Address 12 Oak St Accrington.

Soldier 7334 was transferred from the Militia to East Lancs Regiment in April 1897 and given number 5398. Age 18 years and 1 month. (Again giving a birth year of 1879.)
Name John Richard Pollard.
Next of Kin - Mother Alice Ann (no surname given). HER address 15 Oak St Accrington. Step sister Emily Durbin -- Liverpool Industrial School.

This soldier was awarded the Queens South Africa medal and the Kings South Africa Medal.

From other evidence already presented and available on Free Web Sites as well as Ancestry, he UNDERSTATED his age on enlistment by 2 years!

As previously found by Jennifer, Mary, Keyboard -- he was born in 1877.

Baptism 22/3/1877 St James Accrington -- John Richard Cameron Pollard. Mother Alice Ann Pollard. (Family Search - free site).
Marriage of mother Alice Ann Pollard - 9/12/1878, Accrington to John Cameron Durbin. (family Search - free site).
Baptism of sister Emily Durbin --- 10/6/1880, St James Accrington -- father John Cawston Durbin (mistranscribed - should be John Cameron Durbin) - mother Alice Ann. (Family Search - free site)

1881 census found by Keyboard.
Address : 38 Bank St Accrington;
Jane Pollard 64 Widow
Alice Ann Durbin 23 married
John Richard C Durbin 4 (age correct - as correct birth year 1877)
Emily Durbin 10 mths

(Interestingly - as already mentioned ---the family tree on Ancestry for the Kemble family has a copy of the marriage certificate of John Richard Cameron Durbin Pollard in April 1814 to Hannah Kemble.

His age on this is given as 33! This would give him a birth year of 1881 -- so he has AGAIN understated his age).

From the 1881 census, on the face of it you would think Jane Pollard aged 64 may be the mother of Alice Ann Durbin (nee Pollard) aged 23.

Nathan -- a transcribed copy of this census is available on Family Search (free site).

So John Richard Cameron Durbin Pollard was illegitimate and had a sister Emily who was born after the parents married.

If you are seeking to find out if he was a cousin of an ancestor named Pollard -- you will need to look for brothers of Alice Ann Pollard, his mother.

I hope I have got this correct -- going to lie down in a darkened room for a while!



Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Friday 27 October 17 14:34 BST (UK)
Hi again, the Jane above in 1881 b Church is married in 1861 to a Reuben Pollard 32 with an Alice A Pollard aged 3 b Accrington
Census ref RG09/3062/128/78
The daughters in 1861 Catherine b c 1855  and Alice A b c 1858 have mmn Broderick
 
EDIT would love to know about the John who was killed in action 1916 mother Jane?

So back to this potential family for Alice Ann?
Keyboard86

And the 1871 family headed by a RICHARD Pollard?
Census ref RG10/4442/94/16?

I can locate a baptism for a Catherine Pollard ( Elizabeth in 1871)?
Catherine Pollard 21st January 1855 St James' Church, Accrington Father Richard Mother Jane
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: keyboard86 on Saturday 28 October 17 22:22 BST (UK)
Hi unless one of your Pollard relatives was a Wilson Pollard, I see no connection, Jane Broderick married a Preston Hoyle, Salesbury 26th February 1843 Fathers James Hoyle and George Broderick, believe he was in the Merchant Navy, one child a Catharine Hoyle June qtr 1845 Haslingden mmn Brodrick, Jane Hoyle married a Richard Pollard 8th March 1851 Accrington Fathers' Wilson Pollard and George Broderick
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Sunday 29 October 17 20:16 GMT (UK)
(Interestingly - as already mentioned ---the family tree on Ancestry for the Kemble family has a copy of the marriage certificate of John Richard Cameron Durbin Pollard in April 1814 to Hannah Kemble.

Sorry -- I wrote the above in my previous post - and the marriage date should of course have been 1914 and not 1814!!

Nathan --- I think that you now need to research the person in your own family who you think is a cousin of the soldier ---to see if the arrive at any of the families found by Keyboard.
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: nsledden on Saturday 04 November 17 12:06 GMT (UK)
So looking at all your fantastic work my avenue to establish family connection whic I may have wrong after all is to find out if john Richard pollards mother Alice Anne pollard is related to my lot as john I assume is only a pollard as his mother was pollard and not yet taken the married name of durbin I have just signed up to ancestry , is there any way I can make contact with the person who made the tree with john Richard Cameron durbin pollard in ? Thanks again
Nathan
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 04 November 17 13:39 GMT (UK)
I have had another look Jane Pollard-

Born Jane Broderick c.1821 parents George & Ann Broderick

Jane married Preston Hoyle Haslinden 1843. Jane Hoyle then married Richard Pollard 8/3/1851

Richard Pollard father of Alice  Parents Wilson Pollard Calico Printer and Mary (Anderton?)

Not sure where Reuben came from as he is described as a Tailor, all the Pollard family seem to work within the calico / printing of calico occupation. Perhaps this is yet again another enumerator mistake?

Jennifer
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 04 November 17 13:42 GMT (UK)
If you now have Ancestry you can put the names I have just posted in to Search and it should all come up.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 04 November 17 14:40 GMT (UK)
Looks like Wilson Pollard was base born 4/7/1802 Accrington to Ellen Taylor baptised and married as 'Taylor'.

Ellen Taylor married John Pollard 10/11/1803 St James Accrington as Nellie Taylor.

Ellen Pollard burial 4/9/1836 Chapelby address Lowerhouse.

Wilson Taylor married Mary Anderton Burnley 17/4/1828

Jennifer
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 04 November 17 18:03 GMT (UK)
Nathan -- this is just one way of finding the particular Public Tree on Ancestry and contacting the owner;

1. Click 'Search' on the ribbon menu near the top of the screen.
2. From the drop down menu which appears -- select Public Member Trees
3 In the search box - insert Hannah Kemble, insert birth year of 1893 - insert a location of Lancashire - insert spouse name of John.

The correct tree should appear showing a spouse name of John Richard Cameron Durbin Pollard.

4. Click the Tree Name of Kemble - on left hand side.

The tree will appear

5. In top left hand corner, click the tree owner's user name PAS213

You will then be given the option to send PAS213 a personal message via the Ancestry site.

If they reply - you will receive an email from Ancestry advising you that you have received a personal message - a link in the email will take you to the site.

(Incidentally the actual marriage certificate is in date order (1914) against the list of events down the screen. You can click on this (and print it if you wish).
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Rena on Wednesday 08 November 17 01:51 GMT (UK)
Haven't read all the replies etc... just noticed the name Pollard 
So read a few and then when I saw it was Accrington, guessed it wasnt MY Pollards..

But then saw Royde Street and my OH's family lived in Royde Street Accrington.1901. number 37 - sorry to butt in :) 

 ;)

xin

It's a small world xin.  I live near Royde Street and my late husband was friends with two Pollard brothers, who he went fishing with.  These being Tony, who he worked with and his older brother Alan who worked as a gamekeeper until he retired to Oswaldtwistle
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Wednesday 08 November 17 14:19 GMT (UK)
Rena --- just to let you know that Lancs Family History and Heraldry Society have a small Research Centre in Oswaldtwistle --- I work there as a volunteer every Thursday. Another small world!
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Rena on Wednesday 08 November 17 15:14 GMT (UK)
Rena --- just to let you know that Lancs Family History and Heraldry Society have a small Research Centre in Oswaldtwistle --- I work there as a volunteer every Thursday. Another small world!

lol, it's hard to believe that people from such a tiny area are meeting on the world wide web .
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Wednesday 08 November 17 21:17 GMT (UK)
Yes - and apologies for going off the original Pollard topic --- but others don't realise that Oswaldtwistle (aka Ossy) -- is the Metropolis of the North!! -- and of course it is adjacent to Accy (aka Accrington!)
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 09 November 17 20:20 GMT (UK)
Rena --- just to let you know that Lancs Family History and Heraldry Society have a small Research Centre in Oswaldtwistle --- I work there as a volunteer every Thursday. Another small world!
Very helpful they are too. And friendly.
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: BashLad on Friday 10 November 17 21:03 GMT (UK)
I'm from accy as well. I went to school with more than one Pollard. Must've been a few knocking around.
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 11 November 17 11:04 GMT (UK)
BashLad and Nathan,

I'm not sure if I have mentioned this before -- apologies if I have -- but there is a website for all things Accrington, including a Board on Heritage and History -- there is a gentleman on that site (or used to be) who spent years of dedication researching Accrington soldiers (not only the ones who sadly lost their lives). His knowledge about the subject is truly remarkable.


Hence if you have any queries about Accy soldiers in particular it may be worth your while raising them on that particular section of that site. You will need to register.
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/index.php

From the home page just tab down to see all the separate Boards on that site.
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Maiden Stone on Saturday 11 November 17 19:16 GMT (UK)
Thanks, Pennines. I have several Accy and Ossy soldiers. All returned. One with malaria.
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: anonemouse on Saturday 30 May 20 15:42 BST (UK)
Hi everyone
 I am looking into the family of Henry Pollard 1808-1869 born Church Bank married Margaret Taylor.
From his obituary he was an undertaker and died at Silk Street Salford. My interest is from their son James Pollard born 1839. This is the family of my husband but I am the genealogist in the family. a

Any information would be greatly appreciated

kind regards
Anonemouse
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Maiden Stone on Saturday 30 May 20 16:51 BST (UK)
Were Henry or James  from Accrington?
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Maiden Stone on Saturday 30 May 20 16:53 BST (UK)
Thanks, Pennines. I have several Accy and Ossy soldiers. All returned. One with malaria.
I've since discovered that one didn't return. Killed at the end of the Battle of the Somme.
Title: Re: Pollard family help please Accrington
Post by: Pennines on Saturday 30 May 20 18:14 BST (UK)
Anonemouse -- I am not sure I fully understand your query I'm afraid. What exactly are you wanting to know by 'family' -- siblings, parents?

I notice the marriage of Henry and Margaret is on Lancashire On Line Parish Clerk website.

www.lan-opc.org.uk

this took place at Great Harwood. There is also a baptism for a Henry Pollard;

Baptism: 3 Sep 1809 St Bartholomew, Great Harwood, Lancashire, England
Heny. Pollard - Son of Geo. Pollard & Jenny
    Born: 16 Dec 1807
    Abode: Harwd.
    Register: Baptisms 1803 - 1812, Page 18, Entry 2

Is this the type of thing you want to know? If so -- Lancashire On Line Parish Clerks is a free website for Lancashire Parish records.

I haven't heard of Church Bank -- maybe it's a location within Great Harwood - or within the parish of Church (which was sometimes known as Church Kirk). Both Church and Great Harwood are fairly near to each other.