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Title: William and Marion (?) Taylor
Post by: Huwcyn on Monday 30 October 17 22:12 GMT (UK)
On the 3rd of July, 1866, a distant relative of mine called Marion Emily Chambers (born circa 1842, Sudbury, Suffolk) , married a gentleman called William Taylor, at  St Stephen, Paddington.
His father was a John Taylor, esquire, William's profession given as 'Captain' (I'd be grateful if anyone
explains what this is likely to mean) .
His abode is given as The Pembridge hotel, Notting Hill. Hers is Ledbury Place.

I cannot find any trace of after this. Her name, prior to marriage, varies (Marianne/Mary Ann) .
I'd be grateful if anybody could help me in this respect. 
Title: Re: William and Marion (?) Taylor
Post by: ..claire.. on Tuesday 31 October 17 01:01 GMT (UK)
Hi

It certainly looks like she married again in 1871 at Ryde, Hampshire, England.

She married as Marion Emily Taylor to a JAMES DUNCAN - his father was a Robert Duncan

Her father was a - Richard Samuel Chambers.

A Probate entry for her revealed a bit more info: She died on 23 Feb 1932  aged 83. Her address was 14 Dawson Place Bayswater and was a widow. She died at 11 Stanley Gardens. Administration of her estate went to Marion Emily Dim Varley (wife of Gilbert Varley)

Are you sure she was born in Suffolk ? Later census she puts Madras, India as her place of birth.
Her first child (I think) was born in 1867 - John Frederick W B Taylor, - birth registered in Newton Abbott, Devon.

By the 1881 census, she was widowed again and in Surrey with four daughters.

Hope this helps
Claire
Title: Re: William and Marion (?) Taylor
Post by: Huwcyn on Tuesday 31 October 17 09:25 GMT (UK)
That helps a lot, thank you. It is certainly the same lady, her father being the clue. He'd been stationed as a soldier in India - but he was discharged in 1827- and earlier censuses state her to have been born in Suffolk. No wonder I  couldn't find her. Peculiarly, the same is true of a brother.
Title: Re: William and Marion (?) Taylor
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 31 October 17 10:07 GMT (UK)
You may have this already: baptism as Marianne Eliza Chambers, 8 May 1842 at St Peter's, Sudbury.

Parents: Richard & Susan.
Title: Re: William and Marion (?) Taylor
Post by: Huwcyn on Tuesday 31 October 17 10:24 GMT (UK)
Indeed - I'm beginning to suspect that she knocked 10 or so years off her age in later censuses (and will). That's discounting a series of coincidences.
Title: Re: William and Marion (?) Taylor
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 31 October 17 10:29 GMT (UK)
Were her parents the Richard Chambers and Susannah Williamson (widow) who married at Cannanore, Madras on 31 Jan 1821?

What was Susannah's maiden name?
Title: Re: William and Marion (?) Taylor
Post by: Huwcyn on Tuesday 31 October 17 10:38 GMT (UK)
Mortlock, I believe. He was discharged from the army in 1827, and the family settled in her part of the world in Suffolk. He died in 1845 (Making Marianne/Mary Anne/Marion's age implausible) . His first child was almost certainly born in India, but I presume the 9 others were born in England. The parish records for that part of Suffolk aren't freely available online.
Title: Re: William and Marion (?) Taylor
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 31 October 17 13:54 GMT (UK)
Birth reg therefore: Mary Ann Chambers, mother's maiden name Mortlock, Jun qtr 1842 Sudbury.

I don't understand what's implausible about her 1842 birthdate given that you say her father was alive until 1845?
Title: Re: William and Marion (?) Taylor
Post by: Huwcyn on Tuesday 31 October 17 14:01 GMT (UK)
Having found later censuses for her, none of them give an earlier birth date than 1849 - the 1911 one suggests her age is 58.
Title: Re: William and Marion (?) Taylor
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 31 October 17 14:03 GMT (UK)
It's unusual for a person to have "lost" some years by the time they get to later life, but are you saying her childhood censuses suggest a late 1840s birthdate?  How old is she said to be in 1851 and 1861?
Title: Re: William and Marion (?) Taylor
Post by: Huwcyn on Tuesday 31 October 17 14:12 GMT (UK)
Assuming the same one is under discussion, in 1851 her age is given as 8. I can't find the 1861 at the moment, but I don't think its inconsistent with 1851. In her 1866 marriage, she is said to be 'of full age', which I presume means a pre-1845 birth. In the 1891 census, however, her age is given as 42, mother of a 24 year old son.