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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: yellingbo on Saturday 25 November 17 06:55 GMT (UK)
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Help please!
1851 Census, Parish of Rosemarkie Burgh of Fortrose,
I can read most of the document but I cannot read Christian and Ann Mckenzie`s Occupations!
The other persons in the household are...
Sth Cathederal st, Hugh Mciver, Mason, Rossshire? Rosemarkie.
Mary Mciver, Masons Wife Rossshire? Fortrose? Children..Catherine, Ann, &Daniel
Thanks in advance
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Christian is an "Out Servant". Looks like the first word for Ann is "Object" but not sure of the second.
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Christian is an "Out Servant". Looks like the first word for Ann is "Object" but not sure of the second.
Agree from first to last! I can't read the last word either - looks like 'learn' but that isn't right. :-\
Wonder if it could be loom?
Or is it clean? Which doesn't seem to make sense either. :-\ :-\
Did they have looms for making specifit objects I wonder? In which case could she have worked on one?
Wiggy
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Masons daughter and Servant. ?
do do at home.
jcmac.
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I agree with "at home" for Ann
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Masons daughter and Servant. ?
do do at home.
jcmac.
I think you might be looking at the wrong entry :-\ (but I think you are correct in your interpretation). yellingbo is looking for the occupation of Ann Mckenzie - 7th entry from the top of the page.
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So sorry I was looking at the wrong entry too :-[
Out of interest the occupations are transcribed as
Ort Servant and
Objert Ceam
Do they perhaps appear on any other census with occupations listed?
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The transcription that I looked at had the occs as ~
Out Worker Servant - ** not sure why I originally typed worker!
Object Learn
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I wonder what it means then. :-\ :-\
From the other entries it doesn't look as if the enumerator was the type to make jokes.
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I'm thinking that the best thing might be for yellingbo to contact SP and ask them if they have any ideas. They're very good about these things and have solved quite a few indecipherables .
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I have found Ann Mckenzie in 1841,Daughter! 1861 domestic servant, 1871 general servant. As for Christian I cant find her in any other census, or her death record either.... she may have gone to Inverness or even married! Scotlands people have a list of occupations and the only one that comes near to your suggestions is "Cremer" or "Cramer " Stall holder/pedler...
Thankyou all for your help.
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The enumerator has used capitals at the start of words. I don't think the second word begins with L, if you compare the L of "Lodger" earlier in the line. It almost looks like a capital S in the word "Servant" which appears in the third line from the top.
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If it is an S at the start of the second word could it be Sewer? As in a lady who sewed garments or objects if indeed the first word is object :-\
Please let us know if you find out!
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It might not be an occupation...from my Scots dictionary: object :"deformed or diseased person; an imbecile; someone deserving of pity"
I've come across "object since childhood" on the census, mind there's not many examples of its use to be found.
Jen
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Good explanation, Jen :)
Could it therefore be Object Lame?
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Yes. It's "Object leam (= lame)".
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Gosh you learn something new every day, have never heard of that before thanks for explaining :)
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Scotlands people have sent me a clearer copy of the record! they havent said what her Ocupation means.... I stll dont know the second word Object ????? any more thoughts!
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Did you miss Replies #14 & #15?
Annie
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Did you miss Replies #14 & #15?
Annie
Just to reinforce what Annie has said:
It might not be an occupation...from my Scots dictionary: object :"deformed or diseased person; an imbecile; someone deserving of pity"
I've come across "object since childhood" on the census, mind there's not many examples of its use to be found.
Jen
Good explanation, Jen :)
Could it therefore be Object Lame?
Yes. It's "Object leam (= lame)".
i.e. She was disabled by being lame.