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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: mrpackethead on Thursday 18 January 18 22:10 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I'm trying to determine where and what this land might be. It is listed on some old documetns from 1972, which related to my Gt Gt Gt Aunt. The Land is located near Paulton, Sommerset.
it is described as
Land at Paulto Hill, Paulton
OS No 6051, 6044, 7048, 7933 in all appx 13 acres
Land at Withy Mills, Paulton
OS No 117 Aprx 2 3/4 acres
Is there a way that i can use this information to get some info like a grid reference, in the hope that i can eventually do a title search on the propertys?
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Hi and welcome to RootsChat...Could they be Ordinance Survey map references. Land Registry for the area should be able to help as you have the reference numbers.
Carol
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Thanks for the quick reply..
I'm from the other side of the planet, so am having to learn fast. How woudl i find the 'land registry' for the area.
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I think they may be Field Parcel Numbers?
See: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/resources/historical-map-resources/field-parcel-numbers.html
Withy Mills Farm can be found on Google maps - NE of Paulton, on the Bath Road.
P.S. I used to work in Paulton! ;D
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I think they may be Field Parcel Numbers?
See: https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/resources/historical-map-resources/field-parcel-numbers.html
this looks interesting.
How were Field parcel numbers used on historical maps?
Field parcel numbers are shown on 1:2500 scale National Grid and County Series historical maps. These are now only available via national archives and copyright libraries or via our partners Groundsure and Landmark Information Group. Learn more about where to buy historical maps and deposit libraries.
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Mr P.
The Withy Mills reference relates to the Ref No for the parcel of Land. If you look at the NW corner of the attached map (http://maps.nls.uk//view/106019792), you will see the land just to the south of the access to Withymills Farm. A rectangular field of some 2.727acres.
I can only assume that the Paulto Hill references are similar, but that the reference numbers in this area have been changed from those that date from the publication of this map.
The explanatory note is at the left hand side of the bottom margin on the map.
Istrice
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Mr P,
The National Library of Scotland has a mapping resource second to none in the country. Google "NLS Maps" and spend many happy hours for the grand sum of zero.
Istrice
The following may be of interest:-
"What the three- (pre-war) and four-figure field parcel numbers represent?
On County Series maps, field parcel numbers – usually three numbers – are based on areas within each separate parish within a county. The parish areas are numbered consecutively for each parish within the county. Therefore the three-figure number can repeat itself in each parish. To assist with the investigation for any County Series enquiries, please give as much information for the location, type of building, landmarks and so on.
Four-figure field numbers are derived from our National Grid reference system. The adjoining sheet edge(s) have been checked to ensure that the numbers remained consistent with the National Grid."
Istrice
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Mr P.
The Withy Mills reference relates to the Ref No for the parcel of Land. If you look at the NW corner of the attached map (http://maps.nls.uk//view/106019792), you will see the land just to the south of the access to Withymills Farm. A rectangular field of some 2.727acres.
I can only assume that the Paulto Hill references are similar, but that the reference numbers in this area have been changed from those that date from the publication of this map.
The explanatory note is at the left hand side of the bottom margin on the map.
Istrice
WOW!!!! How awesome. Thankyou so much. this is really really helfpul
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Old-Maps is a good place to look (www.old-maps.co.uk)
They have partial coverage of the area of 1:2500 for 1971.
I have found 7933 to the south east of Paulton. Couldn't see the others but may be there somewhere.
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Mr P.
The Withy Mills reference relates to the Ref No for the parcel of Land. If you look at the NW corner of the attached map (http://maps.nls.uk//view/106019792), you will see the land just to the south of the access to Withymills Farm. A rectangular field of some 2.727acres.
I can only assume that the Paulto Hill references are similar, but that the reference numbers in this area have been changed from those that date from the publication of this map.
The explanatory note is at the left hand side of the bottom margin on the map.
Istrice
WOW!!!! How awesome. Thankyou so much. this is really really helfpul
Nice work Istrice....if you click on side by side view on the map you will get a google earth view of what is there now.
Carol
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Old-Maps is a good place to look (www.old-maps.co.uk)
They have partial coverage of the area of 1:2500 for 1971.
I have found 7933 to the south east of Paulton. Couldn't see the others but may be there somewhere.
Did you just find that by being lucky? or do you have some tools. BTW, thanks. I located this one as well
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If you call lucky...knowing the site, finding Paulton, then Paulton Hill, finding the nearest date to the one you mentioned, then looking around the area, then, yes lucky :) :)
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If you call lucky...knowing the site, finding Paulton, then Paulton Hill, finding the nearest date to the one you mentioned, then looking around the area, then, yes lucky :) :)
Thats not luck! that sounds like you know what you are doing. But thanks so much.
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As I said before, I used to work in Paulton ;D
Can't say I have heard of Paulto/Paulton Hill?
And Mr Google doesn't know it either?
ADDED:
The Somerset Coal Canal, which ran from Paulton to the Kennet & Avon Canal at Dundas, had a wharf at Withy Mills Colliery ;D
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As I said before, I used to work in Paulton ;D
Can't say I have heard of Paulto/Paulton Hill?
And Mr Google doesn't know it either?
Paulto' Hill is a (fairly small) road heading from Paulton in the general direction of Camerton
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Thanks, RD ;D
Think I was looking for a geographical entity, rather than a road?! :-[
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Thanks, RD ;D
Think I was looking for a geographical entity, rather than a road?! :-[
Looking on Google Maps (the little yellow man) the road seems to go over a hill, so was probably named after the hill it went over.
Similarly, to the eastern end, where Paulto' Hill becomes Paulton Lane, a road heads north called Radford Hill, heading towards Radford.
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Huge thanks for the pointers! With your help i've been able to locate, the land, and get at title document. I still have three to find, but we are making progress.