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Title: Ancestry FT dates mixed up
Post by: PurpleOwl333 on Sunday 28 January 18 14:52 GMT (UK)
Good afternoon all  :)

Not sure what I've done but any help rectifying the issue will be most appreciated, thanks!
Title: Re: Ancestry FT dates mixed up
Post by: groom on Sunday 28 January 18 15:00 GMT (UK)
Try removing the death and re-entering it, it may just be a blip.
Title: Re: Anc* FT dates mixed up
Post by: PurpleOwl333 on Sunday 28 January 18 15:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks groom, it slipped the death fact back into the same spot, so I added the word Between before the sisters birth date and that's done the trick.  ;D

Try removing the death and re-entering it, it may just be a blip.
Title: Re: Ancestry FT dates mixed up
Post by: Pheno on Sunday 28 January 18 15:32 GMT (UK)
Just wonder if its because you've got a complete date for one fact and a date in a different format for the other fact.  Maybe it needs all dates to be formatted the same.

Pheno
Title: Re: Ancestry FT dates mixed up
Post by: PurpleOwl333 on Sunday 28 January 18 16:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks or the suggestion Pheno, but that seems a bit strange to me, 'cos sometimes there's specific dates with a birth or death cert and others only the Jan-Feb-Mar from the bmd registry. I'll have a dig in the Anc* help files see if I do need to format the dates to be the same  :)

Just wonder if its because you've got a complete date for one fact and a date in a different format for the other fact.  Maybe it needs all dates to be formatted the same.

Pheno
Title: Re: Anc* FT dates mixed up
Post by: Pheno on Sunday 28 January 18 16:48 GMT (UK)
Sorry what I meant was perhaps it can't cope with the Jan-Feb-Mar element and you need to go for either the first of the quarter i.e. Jan or the last i.e. Mar rather than try the combination.

Pheno
Title: Re: Ancestry FT dates mixed up
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 28 January 18 16:51 GMT (UK)
The usual format for a quarter date is to just mention the end month of the quarter?
E.G. Mar qtr, June qtr etc.
And I don't believe Amcestry recognises Qtr dates anyway?
I usually enter as June 1900, an explain in the notes that it's a quarter date.
Title: Re: Ancestry FT dates mixed up
Post by: PurpleOwl333 on Sunday 28 January 18 17:01 GMT (UK)
I've learnt something new today! I've seen variations, some say Bef. some Abt. some give first month of qtr and others last. I think I'll opt for the way it is on the bmd register then add a note as you do KGarrad.

Thanks both  :)
Title: Re: Ancestry FT dates mixed up
Post by: tellx on Sunday 28 January 18 17:07 GMT (UK)
If I put a date in as "c1895" it will put it at the end of the list but if a space is added ie "c 1895" it places it correctly. I think it doesn't recognize dates if they start with a letter.
Title: Re: Ancestry FT dates mixed up
Post by: groom on Sunday 28 January 18 18:14 GMT (UK)
I use exact dates if I know them, last month of the quarter if I haven't got the certificate and don't know the exact date. Before if I have a marriage certificate that gives father as deceased but I can't find a death, about if I've had to take a guess at a date and between if I have a person in one census but know they have died before the next. That works for me and I've had no problem with Ancestry. Sometimes it asks if I'm sure I want to use that date and I just say yes and enter it. Then when I do find the exact date I go back and add it. 
Title: Re: Ancestry FT dates mixed up
Post by: PurpleOwl333 on Sunday 28 January 18 19:16 GMT (UK)
Interesting, and good to know, thanks tellx  :)

If I put a date in as "c1895" it will put it at the end of the list but if a space is added ie "c 1895" it places it correctly. I think it doesn't recognize dates if they start with a letter.
Title: Re: Ancestry FT dates mixed up
Post by: PurpleOwl333 on Sunday 28 January 18 19:21 GMT (UK)
This seems a perfectly logical way to do it, groom, ta muchly!  ;D

I use exact dates if I know them, last month of the quarter if I haven't got the certificate and don't know the exact date. Before if I have a marriage certificate that gives father as deceased but I can't find a death, about if I've had to take a guess at a date and between if I have a person in one census but know they have died before the next. That works for me and I've had no problem with Ancestry. Sometimes it asks if I'm sure I want to use that date and I just say yes and enter it. Then when I do find the exact date I go back and add it.
Title: Re: Anc* FT dates mixed up
Post by: andrewalston on Sunday 28 January 18 19:45 GMT (UK)
Parsing dates is a horrendous programming task. Should "JAN-FEB-MAR" mean the same as "JAN-MAR" ? What would  "JAN-FEB-MAY" mean, or even  "JAN-DEC-MAR" ?
Even when the format is defined, as in a GEDCOM, some sites have trouble. My FH software happily allows me to enter dates such as "J-M 1900", works out that the first month starting with a J is January and the first M is March, and correctly outputs "BET JAN 1900 AND MAR 1900" in the GEDCOM. GenesReunited threw any such dates away, not even retaining the year.
Title: Re: Anc* FT dates mixed up
Post by: PurpleOwl333 on Sunday 28 January 18 20:09 GMT (UK)

Not even retaining the year? Wow, that's unhelpful! However, I want to thank you for your post and for mentioning GenesReunited as I didn't know about it 'til now. ;D

Parsing dates is a horrendous programming task. Should "JAN-FEB-MAR" mean the same as "JAN-MAR" ? What would  "JAN-FEB-MAY" mean, or even  "JAN-DEC-MAR" ?
Even when the format is defined, as in a GEDCOM, some sites have trouble. My FH software happily allows me to enter dates such as "J-M 1900", works out that the first month starting with a J is January and the first M is March, and correctly outputs "BET JAN 1900 AND MAR 1900" in the GEDCOM. GenesReunited threw any such dates away, not even retaining the year.