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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Banffshire => Topic started by: agray1949 on Sunday 11 February 18 14:53 GMT (UK)
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Hello.
My name is Alan Gray & I have just discovered that George Fordyce (born abt.1887) Rathven, Banffshire is my Paternal Grandfather.
I am slightly confused in the fact that according to the 1891 & 1901 Census records his mother is called Annie but according to the birth information I have his mother was called Margaret Geddes.
Also there is a marriage between John Fordyce & Ann Geddes at Seafield in 1871.
I also know that George was a Cooper & living in Portessie in 1916 - writ between Alexina Gray & George Forsyth regarding an illegitimate son born in 1912 (my father)
Can anyone possibly help me to clear up the naming of the mother please.
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There's a George Geddes Fordyce b. 17th Jan 1887, Rathven - father John Fordyce (cooper), mother Ann ms Geddes.
address was 44 Church St E, Buckie.
I can let you have a copy of the cert if you PM me an e-mail address.
I can't put it up here because of copyright.
Gadget
Add - note on marriage of parents - Nov 2 1871, Seafield
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Also, a death for an Annie Fodyce, 1905, Rathven. Aged 61
Gadget
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1891 and 1901 censuses in Buckie has mother as Annie.
Where did you get Margaret from ?
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He died Buckie in 1971, aged 84. You'd have to order the certificate.
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Marriage in 1915 to Christina Macneil has his mother as Annie Fordyce ms Geddes, deceased. Can send you copy of this too.
Gadget
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From libindx.
Annie Fordyce maiden name Geddes
Spouse John Fordyce, Cooper
Date of Death 5 April 1905 Age61
Place of death 66 Portessie,Buckie
John Fordyce Cooper
Date of death 18 Dec 1916 Age70
Place of death 51 Portessie,Buckie
(Both deaths with notices in the Banffshire Advertiser).
William
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The mothers name of Margaret is shown on the Scotland's people register for Catholic births & baptisms
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Gadget I would like to send a pm but as i am new at this I am not sure how to go about it
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Press the little green note icon under my avatar and you should be able to send me a PM.
The records that I found were from SP but the standard Reg Office ones. I wonder it Margaret was another name (?her saint's name )
Gadget
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Gadget I would like to send a pm but as i am new at this I am not sure how to go about it
Go to any message from Gadget and click on the symbol like a sheet of paper under her name. Then type your message in the screen that will appear.
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Thanks, Forfarian. Alan followed instructions and has the certs :)
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Sorry, hadn't seen your reply when I typed mine.
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Hi everyone out there. I am back reviewing my Scottish side of my tree again & looking at George Fordyce again I was wondering if anyone knows of any children he had with Christina McNeil after their marriage in 1915. Also is there a way in which I can find any births for them in the Scottish records. I know this can be done with English records where you can enter the child's surname & mothers maiden name but I have not seen anything like this in Scotland.
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I have just noticed that on the Catholic register there is a daughter Mary Agnes born in 1917 in Buckie so could there be more ?
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Hi there are 4 people who died in Scotland between 1993 and 2014 who have the surname Fordyce and mothers ms M(a)cNeil including a Mary who could be Mary Agnes and 18 babies registered in Rathven including a Mary not all of these will be the children of your grandfather
One to take note of possibly an Alick Fordyce was registered right after Mary she is number 91 he is number 92 twins possibly Alick died in 1922 age 4 in Rathven you will be able to download those births and his death unfortunately the rest are within the privacy time and can't be viewed online
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Is there a way in which I can find any births for them in the Scottish records. I know this can be done with English records where you can enter the child's surname & mothers maiden name but I have not seen anything like this in Scotland.
You can do this in-house in a Scotland's People Centre for births from 1929 onwards. Unfortunately the indexes before then don't show the mother's maiden surname. They have started adding this information but it's progressing at the pace of an exhausted snail, and they have started in 1855 which is a bit unfortunate when the LDS have indexes from 1855 to 1874, and from 1875 to 1911 you can use the census to narrow down a search. 1911 to 1928 is the 'black hole' :(
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Thanks for your replies.
If Alick had been a twin of Mary Agnes then I would have thought he would have shown up on the Catholic register but alas no.
The 1911 census George was living at home with his father & he didn't marry Christina until 1915.
As any children they had would have been step uncles/aunts I was only slightly curious to see if anyone had definite proof that I had unknown relatives around.
So thanks again.
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I am the daughter of Mary Agnes Fordyce, oldest of three daughters of George Fordyce and Christina (nee MacNeill). (no twin). I have a brother and we are - or were! - the only grandchildren. Loads of photos and memories to share, if we ever meet up.
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Hi Veekay21 , welcome to RC :)
You started a new thread so I've merged it with this one which I think is correct.
I seem to remember George and Christina's marriage in 1915 Perth.
ev
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Alexina Mackie Gray was Annie Gray's daughter - born illegitimate in 1911/Rathven. So now I'm not understanding the 'writ' between Alexina and George Fordyce (our grandfather). George's mother was called Margaret Geddes
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I've just found the writ! Alexina's sister had an illegitimate baby girl (named after Alexina) the year before, in 1911. Alan's grandfather was born in 1912. Just getting my head round it all!