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Title: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: MIG79 on Friday 23 February 18 16:33 GMT (UK)
First post so hello to all!

I have struggled with handwriting on census and certificates so was delighted to receive a typewritten one dated 1871. Having looked on Wikipedia (must be correct then) typewriters were only being invented around then.
So I suppose my question would be is this a rarity?

Thanks
Ian
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: AntonyMMM on Friday 23 February 18 16:43 GMT (UK)
Certificates are just copies of information held in a register, they are not an original document - the register entry from 1871 will be handwritten (as marriages still are). 

Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: jim1 on Friday 23 February 18 16:47 GMT (UK)
Hello & welcome
Did you get it from the GRO?
Some local RO's give modern copies rather than copies of the original.
As Certificates were logged in a book I can't see how it could be type written.
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: stanmapstone on Friday 23 February 18 16:57 GMT (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat

 If you get a certificate from the local register office it says "Certified to be a true copy of an entry in a register in my custody."
If the certificate is from the GRO then it is stated on the bottom that it is "Certified to be a true copy of an entry in the certified copy of a register of ........ in the Registration District of ......."
Or "... in the District above Mentioned"
Stan
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: AntonyMMM on Friday 23 February 18 17:03 GMT (UK)
Certificates are sometimes typewritten for all sorts of reasons - may depend on when the information was last  copied (or re-copied),  and when the certificate was produced.

Unusual, but not that rare. I have quite few.

Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: MIG79 on Friday 23 February 18 19:30 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the replies.

The certificate came from www.gro.gov.uk so the General Register Office. It is on the gro watermarked green a4 sheet. To me it has the appearance of a scanned or photographed original, with the grey mottled photocopier type shadow in the background and old looking type.
On the top it has "Certified copy of an entry of marriage Given at the General Register Office. Underneath the image "Certified to be a true copy....

I have had both paper and PDF certificates before. The info panel look like scans or photos pasted centrally on the certificate in the same way to me.
The certificates from the local office seem to be hand written by the helpful person on the telephone taking the order.
So I thought it unusual to see the type. Am I correct to think would be a copyright problem to put the image or part of it here?
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: chempat on Saturday 24 February 18 00:09 GMT (UK)
Put part of it.
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: MIG79 on Saturday 24 February 18 17:41 GMT (UK)
Here's the top left corner.
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 24 February 18 18:01 GMT (UK)
Question:  At the bottom of the certificate, after "Certified to be a true copy of an entry in a register ..." is a "Date" - what is that date? 
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: cati on Saturday 24 February 18 18:33 GMT (UK)
It's a copy made long after the event - at least 29 years later.Column 1 - "When Married" - has the printed numbers "19   " indicating that the form was produced for use no earlier than 1900.

Cati
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: MIG79 on Saturday 24 February 18 18:42 GMT (UK)
Question:  At the bottom of the certificate, after "Certified to be a true copy of an entry in a register ..." is a "Date" - what is that date?
The date after Certified ... and
Given at the General Register Office, under the Seal of the said Office, 8th day of February 2018.
I recently ordered it.
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: MIG79 on Saturday 24 February 18 18:44 GMT (UK)
It's a copy made long after the event - at least 29 years later.Column 1 - "When Married" - has the printed numbers "19   " indicating that the form was produced for use no earlier than 1900.

Cati

Good spot, I had notice that the '71 was missing but didn't register the 19

The main good news was I could read it and it confirmed relations I expected.
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 24 February 18 18:47 GMT (UK)
Solved - it's a modern copy of an 1871 entry.   If the marriage was conducted in a church, rather than a Register Officer, then there is the chance that a copy of that entry could be found.   :-\
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: stanmapstone on Sunday 25 February 18 12:19 GMT (UK)
I have four typed marriage certificate certified copies and three typed birth certificate certified copies. 

Stan
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: Blue70 on Sunday 25 February 18 16:19 GMT (UK)
If it's a modern copy why does it look like the image has come from microfiche shouldn't the image be nice and clear without marks on it?


Blue
Title: Re: Typewritten Marriage Certificate - 1871
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 25 February 18 16:40 GMT (UK)
My grandad's 1961 death cert is on typed paper,and you can just about read the security paper it's typed on,which says General Register Office in waves all the way across it.