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Title: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: Quester on Wednesday 07 March 18 20:58 GMT (UK)
Hi,
 I have been trying to find info regarding the photographer  I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent,  (Not sure if it is I. or J. Cox) in order to date this photograph that I have attached.  I have no idea who the gentleman is, but if I knew a rough date I might be able to identify him through a process of elinination. I have not so far found any info on Cox Photographers, maybe someone else will have some luck.
Regards Quester
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 08 March 18 22:39 GMT (UK)
I couldn't find any info about J. Cox but this will bring it back up the board for Jim to look at, I'm not that good at dating men's clothing.
Carol
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: Quester on Thursday 08 March 18 22:56 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Treetotal :)
Regards Quester
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 March 18 08:24 GMT (UK)
It could be 1890s but, like Carol, I'm not good  at dating men's photographs.

Hoping Jim will come  along.

Gadget
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: Quester on Friday 09 March 18 17:35 GMT (UK)
Thank you Carol
Regards Quester
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 09 March 18 18:00 GMT (UK)
In 1901 5 Sandy Hill is occupied by a John Cox and his family but his occupation is Shoe maker
RG13/564 f147 p45. 

He is not at that address on the 1891 census.
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: Quester on Friday 09 March 18 22:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosie,
Thank you so much. How strange that he is listed as a shoemaker. I wonder whether his wife or one of his children was a photographer? So maybe the photo is c 1900 or just before? Regards Quester
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 10 March 18 08:01 GMT (UK)
In 1901 his wife Mary had no occupation listed.  The other children who were at work were all Machine Hand's - one was James age 29, no other J's & no photographers.



Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 10 March 18 08:24 GMT (UK)
Very strange, Rossie, I've looked from 1871 onward and there doesn't appear to be any Coxes or photographers there except the 1901 instance.

Interestingly on the last census No 5 isn't listed.
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 10 March 18 10:35 GMT (UK)
Online auction site does not have any other CDV's for this photographer either  :-\
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 10 March 18 11:37 GMT (UK)
Searching through old newspaper adverts of 1880-1899, I can only see a W J Cox, and sometimes J Cox, a printer and stationer of Whitstable. He seems to be a stationer, printer and supplier of photographic albums and illustrations.  His address is neither Sandy Hill nor Woolwich!

Just wondering about the lack of a No 5 on the last census. Could it have become a shop/studio only  :-\
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: Quester on Saturday 10 March 18 11:42 GMT (UK)
Ok, thank you all, that seems to be it, very strange though as it obviously was a proper photographers at one time because of the studio backdrop.
Thanks again for all your help.
Regards Quester.
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: okkool on Tuesday 13 March 18 01:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosie,
Thank you so much. How strange that he is listed as a shoemaker. I wonder whether his wife or one of his children was a photographer? So maybe the photo is c 1900 or just before? Regards Quester

A few months ago I came across photos from S Roberts of Leeds. Samuel Roberts was a photographer for abt 10 yrs over the 1881 census period. He sold in 1885. He was a photographers assistant in Blackpool in 1891 and in 1901 he was a tobacconist back in Leeds. He ended up as a butter and cheese maker. So it is quite possible that John Cox is the right person at the right place and that he was a photographer for only a short period after the 1891 census but before 1901 census.

okkool
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: okkool on Tuesday 13 March 18 02:57 GMT (UK)
I took a look through the London Electoral Registers and found a listing for James John Cox living at 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich in 1897 and thereafter. In 1895 William John Pyefinch was living at that address and James John Cox was at 68 Earl St

okkool
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 13 March 18 07:41 GMT (UK)
Sadly James John Cox is not at 68 Earl Street in 1901.  It is occupied by Richard Harry Childs and his wife Elizabeth.
Title: Re: Dating photograph please I. Cox 5 Sandy Hill Woolwich kent
Post by: Quester on Tuesday 13 March 18 11:23 GMT (UK)
Thank you everyone,
 So at least I know the photograph is not before 1897 and that is a great help. So many, many thanks.  :)
Regards Quester