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Title: annie printz return to england
Post by: kitman64 on Monday 02 April 18 15:57 BST (UK)
Annie Beswetherick born 1868 in Roche, Cornwall uk, emigrated on "the spain" 1888.( new York passenger lists) married M.R. Printz 4th april 1889 at Red Jacket, Houghton, Michigan, United States. 
They appear to have had one daughter Pearl A. born USA 1892. 1901 census Annie is back in Cornwall uk, with Pearl. And now married to William Waddleton their marriage was 27th Dec 1898.

cannot find her return to Cornwall or death/ divorce of husband Printz only have his first initial M. a little help on this would be appreciated 
kITMAN
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 02 April 18 16:03 BST (UK)
Wonder if he could be Dr Mauritz R. Printz - passed away 25 March 1892  ???

FIND A GRAVE

   
Schoolcraft Cemetery Calumet, Houghton County, Michigan.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/133140140

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 02 April 18 16:08 BST (UK)
According to anc tree - Son of August Edvard Printz and Amanda Gustava Ahlback - Finland.
Parents married 31 October 1849 - Vaasa,Finland
Mauritz born about 1857 Finland. (Helsinki, Lansi-Suomen Laani, Finland)

One tree has photographs.

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 02 April 18 16:11 BST (UK)
UK Incoming Passenger List shows - New York to Liverpool in the Aurania arriving December 1891 -  Mrs M Printz aged 22 years. Gertrude Printz aged 4 years and Agnes aged 2 months.

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 02 April 18 16:41 BST (UK)
Cooper Country News - April 1892

Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 02 April 18 16:46 BST (UK)
Brother Karl George Printz - 6 Feb 1861 - baptised 20 February 1861 - Muonio, Lappi, Finland.
Father - A. E. Printz - Mother Amanda Gustafva.

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 02 April 18 16:48 BST (UK)
Carl G Printz married Rosa Anderson - 5 October 1892 - Hancock, Houghton, Michigan.
Father August E Printz and Mother Amanda Ahlbach.

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 02 April 18 17:04 BST (UK)
Maurice Printz - born 15 january 1890 passed away 20 January 1890

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F4RV-GYF

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Schoolcraft Cemetery Calumet, Houghton County, Michigan.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/133140139

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: kitman64 on Monday 02 April 18 21:02 BST (UK)
Many thanks Sandra for all the info, does look a great possibility that Dr Mauritz Printz is the father of Pearl Printz born 1892, cannot as yet locate her date of birth entry. Sad that he died also in her year of birth1892 Maurice b 1890 must have been a brother to Pearl, still searching for sailing date of Annie post 1892 back to England with Pearl. could not find an ancestry tree for Printz family, i'll load what info i have and see what pops up
kitman
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: willsy on Monday 02 April 18 22:05 BST (UK)
Looked for Pearl and

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJV8-47J

Thomas Henry Holyoake
Birth Date:   1887
Age:   29
Spouse's Name:   Pearl Agnes Printz
Spouse's Birth Date:   1892
Spouse's Age:   24
Event Date:   26 Jul 1916
Event Place:   St. Mary, Disley, Cheshire, England
Father's Name:   John Henry Holyoake
Spouse's Father's Name:   Moritz Printz

Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 02 April 18 23:06 BST (UK)
Many thanks Sandra for all the info, does look a great possibility that Dr Mauritz Printz is the father of Pearl Printz born 1892, cannot as yet locate her date of birth entry. Sad that he died also in her year of birth1892 Maurice b 1890 must have been a brother to Pearl, still searching for sailing date of Annie post 1892 back to England with Pearl. could not find an ancestry tree for Printz family, i'll load what info i have and see what pops up
kitman

Pleased to have helped.  The UK return trip is a mystery at the moment. I saw the Ms A L Beswethirick going out to New York On the Spain - Liverpool to New York - 30 April 1888. 
The Liverpool - New York one on the Servia 15 March 1992 where Annie and Pearl return to the USA.

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 02 April 18 23:16 BST (UK)
You may already have this but just in case - The brother Thomas H Beswetherick born 1862 was also married in Michigan 14 December 1901 - Laurium, Houghton, Michigan to Emily Prideaux

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Thomas H Beswetherick -

Grand Lawn Cemetery Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan.
PLOT   Section 6

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14084660

Can come forward with the family if you wanted that info.

Sandra

Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: kitman64 on Tuesday 03 April 18 21:24 BST (UK)
Thanks again for the info now I have digested and put in my tree, I did not have her brothers info “thanks”I have now found other  research on ancestry done on  Annie and Pearl “Agnes” Now looking at the passenger list and giving pearl agnes age as 2 months on arrival in liverpool on the aurania dec 1891 that would put her born around October 1891 not 1892 I do live in hope that one day I come across her place and DOB.
kitman
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: kitman64 on Tuesday 03 April 18 21:33 BST (UK)
thank you Sandra, Would also like info on brother Thomas H b 1862
Kitman
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 21:42 BST (UK)
Thomas H Beswetherick married Emily Prideaux 14 December 1901 Laurium, Houghton, Michigan.
Thomas was a pattern maker. Aged 39 years -

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 21:44 BST (UK)
Emily L. Beswetherick born 1870 passed away 1927 - FIND A GRAVE

Grand Lawn Cemetery Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan.
PLOT   Section 6

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14084654

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 21:46 BST (UK)
1910 census Heckla Street Calumet, Houghton, Michigan.

Thomas H Beswetherisk   48 Born England. Marriage 2
Emily S Beswetherisk   39 Born NJ. Marriage 1. Had 2 children and 2 survive.
Gertrude M Beswetherisk   23 Born Michigan.
Viola P Beswetherisk   8 Born Michigan.
John W Beswetherisk   5 Born Michigan.

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 21:48 BST (UK)
1920 census Twenty Fourth Street Detroit Ward 12, Wayne, Michigan.

Thomas H Beswetherick 56   Imm 1881. NA. Pattern maker. Auto Factory.
Emily L Beswetherick   49
Viola P Beswetherick   17 Stenographer. Wholesale Jeweler.
John W Beswetherick 15

1930 census Prairie Avenue Detroit Wayne Michigan

John Besetherick aged 65 years. widowed. pattern maker.
Viola Besetherick aged 27 years. daughter. stenographer. railroad.

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 23:19 BST (UK)
The son John W Beswitherick born 10 November 1904 Michigan passed away 12 December 1975 Detroit Wayne Michigan.  SSN issued   Michigan - Before 1951

John W Beswetherick married Muriel M Westphal 1 st June 1929 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.
John W Bestwitherick was an accountant - Muriel Westphal was a clerical worker.

Muriel Clara Marie Westphal.

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 23:20 BST (UK)
1930 census Appoline Avenue Detroit Wayne Michigan.

John Bestwetherick married aged 24 years.   accountant.
Muriel Bestwetherick married aged 23 years. clerk.

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 23:23 BST (UK)
1940 census badly mistranscribed - West Moreland Detroit Wayne Michigan.

W Bennethum (should be J W) 34 years. Auditor for carbonated products
Muriel Bennethum 34 years.
son D J born 1932   8 years. -
Son PW born 1938 -  2 years. -

Sandra

Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 23:31 BST (UK)
Muriel Beswitherick 21 September 1905 passed away 31 October 1973 - Detroit Wayne Michigan.
Last Residence 48219 Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.

Sandra
 
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 23:38 BST (UK)
1910 census Heckla Street Calumet, Houghton, Michigan.

Thomas H Beswetherisk   48 Born England. Marriage 2
Emily S Beswetherisk   39 Born NJ. Marriage 1. Had 2 children and 2 survive.
Gertrude M Beswetherisk   23 Born Michigan.
Viola P Beswetherisk   8 Born Michigan.
John W Beswetherisk   5 Born Michigan.

Sandra

Gertrude M - was Elizabeth M G Beswetherick - married Wm. Gordon Pinch - 19 August 1911 - Quincy, Houghton, Michigan.
Parents listed as Thomas H. Beswetherick and Eliza R Harris.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FC81-3B9

Sandra

Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 23:43 BST (UK)
Eliza R Harris - Eliza R beswitherick born 1866 England passed away 27 October 1887 Calumet Houghton Michigan. Aged 21 years.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FHJL-D7D

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 23:44 BST (UK)
Gertrude Mary Beswetherick - 11 December 1886 Calumet, Houghton, Michigan.
parents Thomas Henry Beswetherick and Eliza R Harris

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FHMY-F4L

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 23:51 BST (UK)
Viola Pearl Beswetherick born 10 November 1904 and aged 42 years  married George Edgar Holmes 15 February 1946 Detroit Wayne Michigan.

George Edgar Holmes - Lyandsdale, New York - 42 years - parents - George W Holmes
Mother Mary Alice Petric

Viola may have passed away before 1962/62 - when SSDI was up and running - cannot find her under that birth date

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 03 April 18 23:52 BST (UK)
George E. Holmes born 20 September 1903 passed away 8 March 1992 Jackson, 95642, Amador, California.  SSN issued New York - Before 1951

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Wright Settlement Cemetery Rome, Oneida County, New York.
PLOT   sect 6

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13726134/george-e.-holmes

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: jamcat95 on Wednesday 04 April 18 00:02 BST (UK)

Mauritz born about 1857 Finland. (Helsinki, Lansi-Suomen Laani, Finland)


Here is Mauritz birth record in Alahärmä Parish - 24 Oct 1857:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lup/


Ian

Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 04 April 18 00:08 BST (UK)
Thomas H. Beswetherack - 9 February 1863 - Cornwall England. Arrival date:   1 Jul 1883 - Pt. Hope, Mich. Declaration of intention. spouse Emily - occupation pattern maker - immigrated to USA from Peterborough Canada on the vessel SS Summer Set - my last foreign residence was Canada. 2 children John  W born 16 April 1902 and Viola Pearl born 10 November 1904
Signed and dated - The date looks like 29 August 1924

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 12:27 BST (UK)
1910 census Heckla Street Calumet, Houghton, Michigan.

Thomas H Beswetherisk   48 Born England. Marriage 2
Emily S Beswetherisk   39 Born NJ. Marriage 1. Had 2 children and 2 survive.
Gertrude M Beswetherisk   23 Born Michigan.
Viola P Beswetherisk   8 Born Michigan.
John W Beswetherisk   5 Born Michigan.

Sandra

Gertrude M - was Elizabeth M G Beswetherick - married Wm. Gordon Pinch - 19 August 1911 - Quincy, Houghton, Michigan.
Parents listed as Thomas H. Beswetherick and Eliza R Harris.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FC81-3B9

Sandra

A little more on Gertrude and her family - Lake Linden Ave Laurium, Houghton, Michigan 1920

William G Pinch aged 34 years. born Eng. Imm 1907.    NA 1917. Fireman. Stationary.
Gertrude M Pinch aged 33 years.    
Gertrude I Pinch    aged 7 years.
William G Pinch aged 3 years.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ3H-3Z5

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 12:29 BST (UK)
1930 census Atlantic Street Laurium, Houghton, Michigan.

William Pinch   aged 44 years. married at 24 years. Fireman. Copper-Mine.
Gertrude Pinch   aged 43 years.
Irene Pinch aged 17 years.   
Garfield Pinch aged 14 years.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQ1M-PJC

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 12:32 BST (UK)
1940 census 133 Atlantic Street Calumet, Houghton, Michigan.

William G Pinck aged 55 years.   Stationary Fireman. Copper-mine.
Gertrude M Pinck aged 53 years.    
Gertrude T Pinck aged 27 years.   Nurse.
William A Pinck aged 23 years. New Worker.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4LH-7RT

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 12:33 BST (UK)
Michigan Death - Gertrude M Pinch - 11 December 1886 - 24 September 1971 -
residence - Calumet, Houghton, Michigan   -  Laurium, Houghton, Michigan.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZBG-Q6X

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 12:39 BST (UK)
WW1 Draft for husband William Gordon Pinch - 1917/1918 - born 14 February 1885 -
stationary fireman - nearest relative - Eliza Gertude May Pinch -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-L1Z5-7KN?i=4501&cc=1968530

WW2 Draft - 1942

123 Atlantic Street Laurium Houghton Michigan

nearest relative Mrs Gertrude Pinch at the same address.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-JRCL-3?i=1744&cc=1861144

WW2 Draft also known as "The Old Man's Draft" - doesn't mean he served.

https://www.newberry.org/old-mans-draft





Sandra

Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 12:42 BST (UK)
William G Pinch - 14 February 1885 passed away 12 February 1975 -    Hancock, Houghton, Michigan
Residence -    Laurium, Houghton, Michigan - Certificate Number 9034

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZ14-95P

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 12:47 BST (UK)
Military service for the son - William G V Pinch - 15 October 1940 - Calumet, Michigan. single.
Private First Class -    Corps of Engineers

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8GP-CXX

The son William Garfield Pinch born 1916 married Frances Vivian Gemsch 2 July 1946 -
East Detroit, Macomb, Michigan,  Residence was Highland Park, Michigan.
Parents listed as William Gordon Pinch and Mother Gertrude M Beswetherick

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 12:54 BST (UK)
US City Directory  East Detroit - 1954 - 20506 Avalon av St CS  East Detroit; Roseville  Fraser, Michigan - Carpenter - Briggs

Michigan Death - William G Pinch - 21 July 1916 passed away 25 October 1980 -  aged 64 years - Ann Arbor, Washtenaw, Michigan. Residence - Marine City, St. Clair, Michigan.
William received the Purple Heart and Bronze Star during his military career.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKZ1-JYM

Obituary gives children's names

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL33-L1YH

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89N8-79KF?cc=2215693

Sandra





Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 13:00 BST (UK)
FIND A GRAVE

William G. Pinch - 21 July 1916 - 23 October 1980
S Sgt US Army - 107 Combat Engineers.

Burial -    Chapel Hill Memorial Gardens De Witt, Clinton County, Michigan.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49103773

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49103773#view-photo=26036287

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 13:05 BST (UK)
U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - wife Frances Vivian Gemsch - born 7 February 1917 -    Battle Creek, Michigan - passed away 6 Apr 1997
Father - F V Gemsch - Mother Maybell Moylan

Florida Death Index - Frances Vivian Pinch - 7 February 1917 - passed away 6 April 1997 - aged 80 years - Osceola, Florida.

FIND A GRAVE

Frances V. Pinch -     Chapel Hill Memorial Gardens De Witt, Clinton County, Michigan.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/49103772

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 13:14 BST (UK)
Daughter    Irene Pinch Paananen (29 years - previously married once) born about 1913 married Clarence Edward Kumbo (31 years - driver - bachelor ) 3 June 1942    East Detroit, Macomb, Michigan. Parents - Wm Gordon Pinch - Mother Gertrude Mary Beswetherick

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 13:32 BST (UK)
Clarence Kumbo (husband of Irene) born 16 July 1910 passed away 5 May 1975 - Avon, Oakland, Michigan -   Residence: Birmingham, Oakland, Michigan - SSN issued Michigan (Before 1951)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JYVF-DYX

Sandra
Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 07 April 18 13:37 BST (UK)
Gertrude Kumbo - 12 December 1912 - passed away January 1977 - Last Residence/Benefit   
48068 Royal Oak, Oakland, Michigan.  SSN issued Michigan (Before 1951)

Sandra

Title: Re: annie printz return to england
Post by: Kinlochk on Thursday 28 December 23 19:32 GMT (UK)
Hi there I’m brand new so not a clue how to work this but my great grandmother was pearl printz. My gran was Mary Kinloch nee Holyoake. I’m kirsty kemp new kinloch in Scotland