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Title: Richard Pinder poss AKA James Reginald Pinder
Post by: wb2f on Tuesday 22 May 18 17:56 BST (UK)
Trying to work out if (as on 1939 register), Richard and James are one and the same person?
Problem finding Richard (born circa 1893/4/5) under the name Pinder as he may well have been adopted or fostered by Edward G and Alice Pinder. 
Hence the possibility of his surname not being Pinder. Can't find either in a census with the above 'parents'.   Any thoughts? Thanks. 
Title: Re: Richard Pinder poss AKA James Reginald Pinder
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 22 May 18 18:05 BST (UK)
Your query is quite vague  ;)

What do you actually know about this person - who did he marry and when.
Title: Re: Richard Pinder poss AKA James Reginald Pinder
Post by: philipsearching on Tuesday 22 May 18 18:29 BST (UK)
Your query is quite vague  ;)

What do you actually know about this person - who did he marry and when.

To add to rosie99's reply - if you have his marriage certificate this should give the name and occupation of his father.  This would help in tracking/eliminating possible births, and would enable a new search of the 1901 and 1911 censuses (if his father is not Edward G).

Philip
Title: Re: Richard Pinder poss AKA James Reginald Pinder
Post by: Maggsie on Tuesday 22 May 18 19:07 BST (UK)
Hi, you ask....
Trying to work out if (as on 1939 register), Richard and James are one and the same person?

Moderator comment: 1939 register details removed, you may only post information from a free search.

BUT, I have found several Richard Pinder names all born in 1893.
Did he go overseas or just stayed in the UK?

Maggsie
Title: Re: Richard Pinder poss AKA James Reginald Pinder
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 22 May 18 19:12 BST (UK)
Have you checked for the births of the Pinder children?

I can see possibilities using free BMD - with mother's maiden name Pain.

A Richard Pinder married Thanet, Dec Qtr 1915 - on the same page Alice Pain.

Title: Re: Richard Pinder poss AKA James Reginald Pinder
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 22 May 18 19:24 BST (UK)
A James Reginald Pinder was registered Gravesend, Mar Qtr 1897 and there is a death registration for a James R Pinder, Canterbury, Sep Qtr 1951, age 57

Yet to check GRO for maiden name of James Reginald, 1897.

Were Edward and Alice Pinder at Basildon at any time?
Title: Re: Richard Pinder poss AKA James Reginald Pinder
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 22 May 18 19:27 BST (UK)
Mother's maiden name on the 1897 registration was LLoyd
Title: Re: Richard Pinder poss AKA James Reginald Pinder
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 22 May 18 19:42 BST (UK)
Mother's maiden name on the 1897 registration was LLoyd


Moderator comment: 1939 register details removed, you may only post information from a free search.
Title: Re: Richard Pinder poss AKA James Reginald Pinder
Post by: hanes teulu on Tuesday 22 May 18 19:56 BST (UK)
I'd checked the '39 register. It led to the possible children's births, mother Pain, which, in turn, led to the 1915 marriage of a Richard Pinder to an Alice Pain. That's the trail I'd check out.
James Reginald details included as the only James Reginald around that time frame and locale.
Title: Re: Richard Pinder poss AKA James Reginald Pinder
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 22 May 18 20:28 BST (UK)
Marriages Sep 1890   Strood    2a   910   
ELLIOTT    Walter John        
Levings    Julia Alice        
Lloyd    Alice        <<
PINDER    Edward         <<

There are 4 Pinder-Lloyd children born in the area

I'm wondering if this is James Reginald/Richard in Gravesend in 1901?   

Tilden L Frondigoer    26
Rose Frondigoer    23
Richard Pinder    3 - adopted son
Walter Spieres    26

RG13, 713, 63, 24

A sibling, Alice b c1893 appears to be in a children's home. A second sister, Daisy Sarah Ann died in 1897 and have not found Edward George b 1892

An ancestry tree has Alice the mother dying in 1908 - there's an Alice Pinder b c1871 who is in and out of the Medway poor law records between 1901 & 1907, with a child Herbert Richard b 1901 (no mmn recorded)